Hello Lawrence,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 at 15:05:17[GMT -0600](which was 21:05 where I
live) you wrote:
> You are welcome to subscribe to
> the list yourself and see if you can download the digest with Mailsafe
> enabled.
Well, I joined the list just before going to bed and woke to find that
TB! had
A lot of theory. However, TheBat cant handle secure IMAP4/secure
POP3 connections flawlessly (as Outlook and Netscape do). That's
what counts to me. I still have to use another mailer (which I
really dislike) to handle my university account from home and
within campus (because TB wont
Hello Allie,
Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 1:37:53 AM, you wrote:
AM> Actually, this doesn't happen. It's the GnuPG plug-in that
AM> specifically does this stripping of trailing blank lines.
AM> Signing with GPG Shell leads to preservation of blank spaces.
AM> See my signature below.
How would y
Hello Clive,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:40:27 + GMT (02/01/03, 03:40 +0700 GMT),
Clive Taylor wrote:
> Now, for some reason, I get a message saying "retrieving message
> headers" (which seems to go slowly) THEN "getting number of messages",
> followed by message download.
When the headers are ret
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Hello tbudl,
MDP>> I'm not quite sure why it should do that and I don't think it
MDP>> should. If it does, it may be a "bug".
>>> I have this macro %SUBJ right at the top in my body but when I
>>> launch the shortcut that macro no longer works.
VBG>
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Hi Marck,
ta muchly - I'll enjoy playing with these!
Thursday, January 2, 2003, 1:12:08 PM, you wrote:
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iQCVAwUAPhOke0YhrxxXvPlFAQH/rQP+N83Y5QXrEM4790xagUzDv/shoSPNpdow
675WYKoktPuJau1p9wHpFpon1t5/p+ICPqy
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Hi Toby,
@2-Jan-2003, 13:06 +1100 (02:06 UK time) Toby Tremayne [TT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
MDP>> ... I also employ special macros to enforce encryption and to
MDP>> remove the "Decrypted" from the subject when replying.
T
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Hi Marck,
MDP> The reason is that the decryption is intended to be temporary - for
MDP> viewing purposes only. I employ Read message filters to delete
MDP> decrypted messages automatically after reading. I also employ
MDP> special macros to enforce enc
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Hi Graeme,
@2-Jan-2003, 01:40 Graeme J Hosking [GJH] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
GJH> However, every time I ask for a signature to be verified, or a
GJH> message to be decrypted, I get a duplicate of the message with
GJH> "(PGP
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Hi,
I'm just starting to get my head around using PGP with The Bat! but
I'm not entirely sure I have this set up correctly. I've installed
PGP 6.5.8ckt and The Bat! seems to work with it reasonably.
However, every time I ask for a signature t
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Hello Allie,
Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 5:20:32 PM, you wrote:
AM> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
AM> Wolffe [W] wrote:'
W>> I am not an advocate of bloatTML in email. If you have such a
W>> strictly formatted message to put out, and
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gavin Sinclair [GS] wrote:'
GS> Now that one or two reply templates have been published, could
GS> all this info be shoehorned into the FAQ somewhere?
It's already there in the macro and solutions library:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 3:27:37 PM, Gavin wrote:
> Hi all,
> [PGP signatures argably shouldn't be displayed in emails,] but the
> help and the FAQ mention nothing.
Now that one or two reply templates have been published, could all
this info be shoehorned into the FAQ somewhere?
Cheers,
G
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote...
JA>> If you start a new line with the word From, it'll make it appear
JA>> as a reply, or if PGP signed, will put a - in front. If you a
JA>> replying to a message, and start a new line with a "Fro
Hallo Jonathan,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:09:31 -0600GMT (1-1-03, 23:16 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
JA> I've noticed this a lot recently, but having worked with the SMTP
JA> RFC a bit, I don't remember if it is part of required behaviour, or
JA> if it is just something that TB is doing.
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Wolffe [W] wrote:'
W> I am not an advocate of bloatTML in email. If you have such a
W> strictly formatted message to put out, and HTML is the only way
W> to maintain the format, then put it on a web page and mail the
W> URL to your recipients. You hav
Hi All,
I've noticed this a lot recently, but having worked with the SMTP
RFC a bit, I don't remember if it is part of required behaviour, or
if it is just something that TB is doing. If you start a new line
with the word From, it'll make it appear as a reply, or if PGP
signed, will put
Hello Lawrence,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 at 15:05:17[GMT -0600](which was 21:05 where I
live) you wrote:
> You are welcome to subscribe to
> the list yourself and see if you can download the digest with Mailsafe
> enabled.
I just have done and it will be interesting to see if the same
problems occur w
On Wednesday, January 01, 2003 Allie Martin stated:
AM> An HTML formatted message would be your friend here since
AM> you can define your font face and size through HTML. ;)
I am not an advocate of bloatTML in email. If you have such a strictly
formatted message to put out, and HTML is the only
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Victor B. Gonzalez [VBG] wrote:'
VBG> I cannot edit rich mail in tb am I correct?
Yes you are.
VBG> I completely understand the font will not be on all computers
VBG> but the only type of font needed is a *fixed width font* to be
VBG> displayed with
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:'
JA> Of course, you could always (if you can afford it) produce the
JA> output in a PDF format with embedded fonts. That way, what you
JA> see is more likely to be what is going to come out on the other
JA> end. Unfortunat
> JA> Not 100% true... you still require the font to be on the other
> JA> persons computer, and you still require them to read your emails
> JA> as HTML :)
> Thanks for clarifying those shortcomings which I agree with but
> failed to mention myself. :)
Of course, you could always (if you can aff
>>> That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
>>> with '-'.
>
> JA> Then maybe the template on the main site needs to be updated
> JA> no?
>
> Nono - you misunderstand me :-). When you quoted it, there were some
> lines of the macro that begin with '-'. You then PGP sign
Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 1:00:07 PM, you wrote:
A> Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 6:51:41 PM,Richard wrote:
RW>> Hm, I've used ZA for a couple of years now and have never had that
RW>> problem with any mail however big or small, even though I have the
RW>> Mailsafe setting on.
I can only report
Hello,
Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 3:34:50 PM, you wrote:
>> (We cannot say the same about later versions of ZA - i.e. the v3
>> series as they were almost unusable for us!)
> Confirmed again. I've tried ZAP v3.x here, and it did cause all sorts
> of problems (even with a very complete un-insta
Up until two days ago collecting mail from this account was quick with
the Connection Centre dialogue shoeing "getting number of messages" and
then downloading them.
Now, for some reason, I get a message saying "retrieving message
headers" (which seems to go slowly) THEN "getting number of message
Allie Martin,
> We wonder why other clients never incorporate some of the no brainer
> features of TB!. I wonder the same about this feature of PMMail.
Exactly right. Good P G P support is one reason I bought Bat.
Among other things, I use digital signatures to verify consulting
contracts with c
Hello Anne,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 at 19:00:07[GMT +](which was 19:00 where I
live) you wrote:
> it's my view that the problem arises mainly because of an
> incompatibility between ZoneAlarm and Win XP. Those of us using
> older versions of Windows appear to have less or no problems with ZA
> or
Saturday, December 28, 2002, 6:03:14 PM,Bruno wrote:
BF> It also gets a little confusing and tiring having all messages in
BF> the thread marked in the unread font/colour when there is only a
BF> single new message.
Bruno,
The way I got around this was to change the View settings for the folder
Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 6:51:41 PM,Richard wrote:
RW> Hm, I've used ZA for a couple of years now and have never had that
RW> problem with any mail however big or small, even though I have the
RW> Mailsafe setting on.
Richard,
Having read many of the mails about this problem here and on othe
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Hello Allie,
JA>> Not 100% true... you still require the font to be on the other
JA>> persons computer, and you still require them to read your emails
JA>> as HTML :) Of course, with courier the chances of it not being
JA>> there is very slim, but as
Does a certificate necessarily to be imported to the Intermediate
to be later imported to the Trusted Root ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª]
Las Palmas, Canary Islands [01/01/2003, 17:47 GMT]
Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
Serv
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:'
JA> Not 100% true... you still require the font to be on the other
JA> persons computer, and you still require them to read your emails
JA> as HTML :) Of course, with courier the chances of it not being
JA> there is very
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Hi Jonathan,
@1-Jan-2003, 11:25 -0600 (17:25 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
>> with '-'.
JA> Then maybe the template on the main
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Allie Martin wrote...
VBG>> I've worked on creating a signature and formatting to an e-mail
VBG>> that heavily relies on the courier font [..]
VBG>> Is their any way to override their settings and get my message
VBG>>
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...
JA>> The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:
> ...
> That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
> with '-'.
Then maybe the template on
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Mary Bull wrote...
J>> [1] See comment a little further down :)
> I think you are right, and I did get caught in trying to quote
> Melissa's MACRO. I am very inexperienced. Would have been better
> just to refer to it
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'
>> If you put line feeds after your signature and manually sign with
>> the GnuPG plug-in the extra line feeds are stripped.
TF> While I am repeating myself, I don't think it's the GnuPG
TF> plug-in that strips the extra
Hello Allie,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 07:18:20 -0500 GMT (01/01/03, 19:18 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
TF>> And here is the surprising part: When I check my Sent folder,
TF>> the message there has no trailing empty lines either. So they
TF>> are cut off by TB even before the message is sent.
> Ok,
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Victor B. Gonzalez [VBG] wrote:'
VBG> I've worked on creating a signature and formatting to an e-mail
VBG> that heavily relies on the courier font but then realized not
VBG> everyone who gets my message might have courier installed or
VBG> worst yet s
Hallo Victor B. Gonzalez,
am Mittwoch, 1. Januar 2003 schriebst Du:
> Is their any way to override their settings and get my
> message displayed in a fixed width?
Well, you need an answer for every mail program out there separately,
I think.
There's no way to do it in my old mail program, Y
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'
MB> In my experience reading these lists, there must be two Enter
MB> clicks below the 'cut' line.
For the signature delimiter to work? No, the extra empty lines
aren't necessary. If you prefer having them there then your choic
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Hello tbudl,
I've worked on creating a signature and formatting to an
e-mail that heavily relies on the courier font but then
realized not everyone who gets my message might have
courier installed or worst yet simply wish to view their
text
Hello Allie,
On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, 7:15 AM, you wrote:
< ... >
A> You can do the following:
A> Create an address book entry for TBUDL and using the list address,
A> [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
This entry I had already.
A> Right click the entry and select properties. Hit the 'Reply' tab,
A>
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'
MB> So I can just "copy and paste" there (isn't it in Accounts,
MB> Properties?) in the same way I did into Quick Templates? Thanks,
MB> Allie. I will try it now.
You can do the following:
Create an address book entry for TBUD
Hello Allie!
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 6:03:49 AM you wrote:
MB>> One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls
MB>> from heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick
MB>> Templates, then I used the backspace button to turn it into one
MB>> long line.
< ... >
A>
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Sadler [TS] wrote:'
TS> I'll use a line separator. Is this problem limited only to gnupg
TS> plugin or does it extend to pgp also?
Even if you manually sign with the PGP plug-in, extra line feeds
will be stripped. However, the PGP plug-in will le
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Hi Jonathan,
@1-Jan-2003, 03:38 -0600 (09:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
JA> The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:
...
That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted t
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Hi Tom,
@1-Jan-2003, 17:33 +1100 (06:33 UK time) Tom Sadler [TS] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
TS> Is this problem limited only to gnupg plugin or does it extend
TS> to pgp also?
Just GnuPG.
- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'
>> Actually, this doesn't happen.
TF> Allie, I just sent a message to myself. It contained several
TF> empty lines at the end. When I received it, there were no empty
TF> li
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'
MB> One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls
MB> from heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick
MB> Templates, then I used the backspace button to turn it into one
MB> long line.
MB> And it wor
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:'
>> True :) I understand their meaning and still think it's a forest
>> of crap. Even if I thought signing messages in a public forum
>> were a brilliant idea, I'd still think it's noise, because it's
>> metadata, not actu
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 5:03:07 PM, Melissa wrote:
> I'll sign this one just for you. ;-)
> Melissa
Heh, no manual deforestation required. Thanks again!
Gavin
Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.
Hello Mary,
Thank You for the bunch of "BULL" . (G)
Happy New Years,
Carl -reading the digest version
Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 2:45:03 AM, you wrote:
MB> Hello Melissa!
MB> On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 12:03:07 AM you wrote:
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M>
Hello Jonathan!
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 3:38:18 AM you wrote:
J> [1] See comment a little further down :)
I think you are right, and I did get caught in trying to quote
Melissa's MACRO. I am very inexperienced. Would have been better just
to refer to it and let those interested pick it
Hallo Jonathan,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 03:38:18 -0600GMT (1-1-03, 10:38 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
JA> Notice how on the first line it has the %- on the end, but the
JA> quoted one above has the %- on the second line at the front. I'm
JA> not sure how much of an affect it'd have, but it'd be
Hello Allie,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:07:53 -0500 GMT (01/01/03, 12:07 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
TF>> TB's editor will cut off any trailing blanks at the end of the
TF>> line (with the exception of the one after the two dashes in the
TF>> sig delimiter), and any trailing lines at the end of th
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Mary Bull wrote...
M>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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[1] See comment a little further down :)
M>> On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 8:27:37 PM PST, Gavin Sinclair
M>> wrote:
>>> A lot of messages
Hello Melissa!
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 12:03:07 AM you wrote:
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M> On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 8:27:37 PM PST, Gavin Sinclair
M> wrote:
>> A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
>> PGP signatures that h
Hi Thomas,
on Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:30:36 +0700 GMT (which was Wednesday, January 1,
2003, 05:30 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others:
>> For our German readers, this site has been recommended to me. It is
>> mostly concerned with Sec
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On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Gavin Sinclair wrote...
>>> A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
>>> PGP signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.
>> :-) One person's "forest of crap" might be another'
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