Re: server not ready ?
Hello Sandy, On Fri, 21 May 2004 22:28:19 -0400 GMT (22/05/2004, 09:28 +0700 GMT), Sandy wrote: S> Tonight I've been getting a "server not ready" message when I try to send a S> message. I am able to recieve mail. So far, I tried turning off the S> firewall, looked in properties (transport) but can't see what's wrong there. S> Can anyone give me some idea how to fix this problem? I believe that the reason for this error message is (guess what) that your SMTP server is not ready. Fix it by calling the company that runs it - either your ISP or your email provider. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water in the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight." Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Links
Hello robin, On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:18:55 +1000 GMT (22/05/2004, 08:18 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: raoca> This didn't occur, but because you didn't send your message as HTML. I raoca> have experienced it often, that a message written in HTML and containing raoca> the & character (coded as & in the HTML) loses this in the reply. In raoca> general TB! is not good at quoting text that was in HTML in the original. And this is so true! I get HTML mails in the office, and I reply by MicroEd - I have to delete a lot of question marks that MicroEd inserts, and I have to add blanks between words that MicroEd concatenates. I believe there is a (very old) bug report out on that one. Can someone point me tothe bug number, so I can add a bug report? raoca> As a matter of interest, I tried searching a number of my mail folders raoca> for and example of such a message by searching for "&" in the body of the raoca> message (without the quotes) only to end up with dozens of error messages raoca> that the search string was empty. That is because you can use & in the search string as a logical "and". If you really mean the character &, you have to type it twice: &&. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Compaq is considering changing the command "Press Any Key" to "Press Return Key" because of the flood of calls asking where the "Any" key is. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All read messages in Inbox gone
Hello Stan, On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:10:04 -0500 GMT (22/05/2004, 00:10 +0700 GMT), Stan Robins wrote: SR> These were messages that I had read. They did have any filter SR> associated with them. Did or did not? From the context, I guess that you mean they did *not* have a filter associated with them. SR> This phenomenon of messages disappearing had happened at least once SR> before recently. But I am sure it didn't affect all my Read messages. You mean it is not reliably reproducable? That opens another can of worms. Because I was of the opinion that somehow, a stray filter (I would now guess: a Read filter) was the culprit. But then the effect should be there every time. >> Do you purge & compress on exit? If so, turn that off for now, at >> least the messages will still be there. SR> As noted, the Inbox was set to purge and compress. That has been SR> turned off. OK. So, when the messages are gone, they should still be there when you Browse Deleted, and you can also reinstate them by hitting on them in that folder. >> Open TB and see whether the messages are in the folder that now has >> the copied message.tbb. If you don't see anything, try "browse >> deleted". SR> In her case, I think it is too late to try this remedy. Noted for SR> future reference, though. Thanks. It's more like a step in diagnosis rather than a remedy. I wanted to know whether the messages are really gone from the base, or whether they are not displayed for some reason. SR> I am going to check her settings and turn off purging and compressing SR> for now. OK. Let me know something: Have you every copied any filters or other parts of TB between your cmpauter and your daughter's, manually or electronically? SR> I should pare down my filters. Many are obsolete. I do use Read SR> message filters more than any other. It's my guess that it's a stray Read filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reden ist Schweigen, Silber ist Gold. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail download problem
Hi Britt, Friday, May 21, 2004, 2:37:25 AM, you wrote: >> That reminds of a similar problem I had when I first started using >> The Bat. I ran across a suggestion to delete the bat*.tmp files from >> my temp directory. There turned out to be thousands of them. As soon >> as I did this all was well. You might try this. In my case I later >> discovered that the import from Pegasus had created those thousands >> of .tmp files and not cleaned them up. BH> Dear, wonderful Wayne, BH> your trick worked! I too had imported my mails into The Bat, and I BH> found 36 425 (!) bat*.tmp-files, of which I of course had no idea, BH> altogether 84 MB. I deleted them yesterday, and this morning the mail BH> download worked without any problems. I'm so happy - a thousand thanks BH> to you! Glad I could help. I went through the same experience you did and almost gave up until I came across a message in the old forums suggesting deleting those .tmp files. In my case the message I found was only obliquely related to my problem. I tried it any way and, like you, was thrilled that it worked. BH> List owners, please write this into you FAQ or make a note of it until BH> the next beginner asks the same thing on this list! I was on the verge BH> of giving up on the Bat because of this, since it was driving me mad, BH> and I found it really strange that nobody could solve the problem at BH> first. There must be loads of beginners who have their mails in BH> another e-mail client and import them into the Bat. I suspect that many potential The Bat users have been lost due to this. Most people would likely just assume it's a bug in The Bat and move on to something out. Only a few would take the time and effort to search through forum/list archives trying to find a solution. -- Wayne Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
server not ready ?
Tonight I've been getting a "server not ready" message when I try to send a message. I am able to recieve mail. So far, I tried turning off the firewall, looked in properties (transport) but can't see what's wrong there. Can anyone give me some idea how to fix this problem? Thanks in advance, Sandy Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Links
On Sat 22 May 2004, 8:19:41 +1000, John Cunnane wrote: > I believe that we can agree with my first point that clicking on a > HTML link in the preview pane takes you to the top of the message on > the first click and then opens the browser on the second. I assume > that this is a bug and not a feature? I think it is a v2.1 bug, so I don't experience it, but it seems well documented > As for the '&' characters in a HTML link when Reply is used, I would > be grateful if you could reply to this message and check the following > link in the quoted text. If the bug is present, the '&' characters in > the link will be replaced by spaces and the link will no longer work. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41559&item=4190830767&rd=1 This didn't occur, but because you didn't send your message as HTML. I have experienced it often, that a message written in HTML and containing the & character (coded as & in the HTML) loses this in the reply. In general TB! is not good at quoting text that was in HTML in the original. As a matter of interest, I tried searching a number of my mail folders for and example of such a message by searching for "&" in the body of the message (without the quotes) only to end up with dozens of error messages that the search string was empty. I also note that when moving my cursor using the CTRL+arrow key combination, the above "&" is not considered to be a word by the MicroEd editor. It gets completely skipped over. However if I change to the Windows editor, it is seen as a word and the cursor will stop at the beginning of it. -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Font in Address Book)
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Saturday, May 22, 2004, 1:05:26 AM, you wrote: LG> Hello Paul, LG> Friday, May 21, 2004, 12:23:07 AM, you wrote: Paul>> Paul ... LG> You really should put your sig delimiter either right above, or right LG> below your name.. Otherwise people will be forced to cut out all the LG> extraneous stuff under your name each time. LG> Thanks, Lief. Fixed. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A ...Be true to your teeth and they won't be false to you. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML Links
On Friday, May 21, 2004, 6:19:41 PM, John Cunnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JC> Hi All, JC> I believe that we can agree with my first point that clicking on a JC> HTML link in the preview pane takes you to the top of the message on JC> the first click and then opens the browser on the second. I assume JC> that this is a bug and not a feature? JC> As for the '&' characters in a HTML link when Reply is used, I would JC> be grateful if you could reply to this message and check the following JC> link in the quoted text. If the bug is present, the '&' characters in JC> the link will be replaced by spaces and the link will no longer work. JC> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41559&item=4190830767&rd=1 I agree with your first point as I have the same problem 2.10.03. But I have never seen the second problem and indeed it isn't showing up in this reply. -- jwayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Links
Hi All, I believe that we can agree with my first point that clicking on a HTML link in the preview pane takes you to the top of the message on the first click and then opens the browser on the second. I assume that this is a bug and not a feature? As for the '&' characters in a HTML link when Reply is used, I would be grateful if you could reply to this message and check the following link in the quoted text. If the bug is present, the '&' characters in the link will be replaced by spaces and the link will no longer work. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41559&item=4190830767&rd=1 -- Best regards John Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Links
Hello Eric, on Saturday, May 22, 2004 at 12:18:31 AM, you wrote: > Hello John, > Friday, May 21, 2004, 10:01:53 PM, you wrote: JC>>> 1. If I click on an html link in the message JC>>> preview window, it simply goes to the top of JC>>> the message. I JC>> Does anyone else see these problems in JC>> v2.10.03? Yeah, same here. I think this is a bug in 2.10.03. -- Bogdan Using The Bat! 2.10.03 "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." (Mario Andretti) Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Links
Hello John, Friday, May 21, 2004, 10:01:53 PM, you wrote: JC>> 1. If I click on an html link in the message JC>> preview window, it simply goes to the top of JC>> the message. I JC> Does anyone else see these problems in JC> v2.10.03? I see problem 1 here. Regards, Eric mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Links
Hi All, JC> 1. If I click on an html link in the message preview window, it simply JC> goes to the top of the message. If I click on the link a second time, JC> 2. If I reply to a message which contains a html link and quote the JC> original text, then all instances of the '&' character (without the JC> quotes) in the original link get replaced by the space character in Both look like a bug i your version of TB. In my 2.04.03 both function correctly. Does anyone else see these problems in v2.10.03? -- Regards John Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Links
Hallo John, On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:44:04 +0100GMT (21-5-04, 11:44 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JC> 1. If I click on an html link in the message preview window, it simply JC> goes to the top of the message. If I click on the link a second time, JC> 2. If I reply to a message which contains a html link and quote the JC> original text, then all instances of the '&' character (without the JC> quotes) in the original link get replaced by the space character in Both look like a bug i your version of TB. In my 2.04.03 both function correctly. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: All read messages in Inbox gone
Hello Thomas, On Friday, May 21, 2004, at 8:39:32 AM, I received a message, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], in which you wrote: (Text not relevant to my reply may have been snipped.) > I'll take you didn't delete the messages by yourself. Did you ever > read them and did they go straight from download to trash, no stop at > Inbox? These were messages that I had read. They did have any filter associated with them. I did have the Inbox set to Purge and Compress with some fairly high message limits. I had closed The Bat! and reopened it in the morning when I woke up my computer. All Read messages in the Inbox were gone. There had been perhaps 2 dozen Read messages in the Inbox, representing many different senders. This phenomenon of messages disappearing had happened at least once before recently. But I am sure it didn't affect all my Read messages. SR>> I opened the Inbox messages.tbb file with a text editor and tried to SR>> find a few of the missing messages. They weren't there. > Hm. TB will download all mails into the Inbox first, from where they > will be moved to the destination folder, if a filter applies. Moving > means that it will be copied into that message.tbb file and makred > "deleted" in the origin folder, in this case Inbox. That means, it is > still in there but not displayed, until such time that you compress. > Do you purge & compress on exit? If so, turn that off for now, at > least the messages will still be there. As noted, the Inbox was set to purge and compress. That has been turned off. >>> Is the file messages.tbb still on her HD? SR>> I think so. I did have her rebuild the index and also Browse Deleted SR>> Messages. No luck with either. > Copy the message.tbb (without the index file .tbi) to another dolder, > and do this with a file manager while TB is closed. The messages from > the destiantion folder will be overwritten, so maybe you want to > rename that file to messages.tb2. > Open TB and see whether the messages are in the folder that now has > the copied message.tbb. If you don't see anything, try "browse > deleted". In her case, I think it is too late to try this remedy. Noted for future reference, though. Thanks. I am going to check her settings and turn off purging and compressing for now. SR>> I wonder how many have reported this problem. I suspect a massive bug SR>> related to the filter routines. > It hasn't been reported as far as I know, and I think you have a stray > filter. We'll get to that when we see whether my theory works. If you > are not compressing, I'm on the wrong track. I should pare down my filters. Many are obsolete. I do use Read message filters more than any other. -- Stan Robins Mendota Heights, MN Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat, 2.10.01 www.ritlabs.com * "Have you ever noticed what golf spells backwards?" -- Al Boliska * Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import same account
Dear Adam, @21-May-2004, 14:08 -0230 (21-May 17:38 UK time) Adam [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP>> What do you mean "import"? TB can't import entire accounts. A> Yes. Excuse me. I meant straight Backup. And then Tools/Restore A> on this TB installation. So "import" an entire TB account that A> was just saved via the menu Tools/Backup. A> I don't know if it would accommodate two accounts that are the A> same. It wouldn't. You would backup, rename the account then restore the original. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp35DNWIgPGN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import same account
Hello Marck, Friday, May 21, 2004, 1:44:21 PM, you wrote: A>> I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB from A>> another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me have two of A>> the same accounts, different contents? Would it try to overwrite the A>> contents of one account with the contents of another? MDP> What do you mean "import"? TB can't import entire accounts. Yes. Excuse me. I meant straight Backup. And then Tools/Restore on this TB installation. So "import" an entire TB account that was just saved via the menu Tools/Backup. I don't know if it would accommodate two accounts that are the same. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import same account
Hello Adam, Friday, May 21, 2004, 10:10:20 AM, you wrote: Adam> I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB Adam> from another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me Adam> have two of the same accounts, different contents? Would it try Adam> to overwrite the contents of one account with the contents of Adam> another? Just rename the folder of the account you want to import. It'll come into TB under that folder name. Err, then again, let's define import. If you used the backup and recovery, what I said may not be true. If you are just pulling the folder from another machine and putting it in your TBMAIL directory, then it will work. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import same account
Dear Adam, @21-May-2004, 13:40 -0230 (21-May 17:10 UK time) Adam [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A> I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB from A> another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me have two of A> the same accounts, different contents? Would it try to overwrite the A> contents of one account with the contents of another? What do you mean "import"? TB can't import entire accounts. It can restore them from backup - is that what you mean? It will import an account if you create a new account using the name of one that already exists on disk. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgphw2PvSokAv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Import same account
I'd like to try and import the same account I am using into TB from another. I am uncertain how TB would react. Will it let me have two of the same accounts, different contents? Would it try to overwrite the contents of one account with the contents of another? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam Filtering
Hello all, Friday, May 21, 2004, Gene Brown wrote: > So, what do those choices about Average, Maximal and Minimal > really mean? Average of what? Minimal of what? this setting is needed, if You use more antispam plugins. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
So, what do those choices about Average, Maximal and Minimal really mean? Average of what? Minimal of what? -- Using The Bat! Version 2.10.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
On 21 May 2004 at 17:28:59 +0200 GMT [17:28 CEST] I wrote: AW> The webpage isn't up-to-date I think. Get 0.5.3 here: AW> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit053.rar AW> There's also 0.5.4 but I think that only comes with tb! Don't ask me AW> about the differences, I'm still using 0.5.3. Upon some experimenting I found that can get up to 0.5.5 with url: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit054.rar http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit055.rar I've seen no anouncement of those, though, and this is the first time I see anything about v0.5.5. Thus I don't know how 'official' they are.. -- Cheers, Andre "Charlie was a Chemist, but Charlie is no more. What Charlie thought was H20 was H2SO4." Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
Hello Jimmie, On 21 May 2004 at 05:27:33 -0500 GMT [12:27 CEST] you wrote: JT> I didn't know there was an 0.5 but when I installed TB! there was a much older JT> version that it installed. Will go look for 0.5 was just there last night and JT> thought 0.4 was the latest. The webpage isn't up-to-date I think. Get 0.5.3 here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit053.rar There's also 0.5.4 but I think that only comes with tb! Don't ask me about the differences, I'm still using 0.5.3. -- Cheers, Andre "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
Hello Alex, On 21 May 2004 at 09:12:17 -0400 GMT [15:12 CEST] you wrote: AE> When I upgraded to 0.5, I not only had to retrain, but I ended up AE> tanking all the files from any previous BayesIT installation. So, all AE> of my spambases went into the trash and then I reinstalled 0.5 and AE> then trained it. Yes. Beginning from zero. That's what I meant by retraining. AE> Just wanted to clarify. Thanks. -- Cheers, Andre "I am so clever, sometimes I don't understand a word of what I'm saying." Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply address from To address?
Hallo Paul, On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:47:58 +0100GMT (21-5-04, 15:47 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> If your address is always the TO address in the original mail, you can >> just use the macro %From="%OTOaddr" in your reply template. PJ> This is great I have set this as the account default, and then I can PJ> individually set the exceptions. Thanks very much. Note that this macro does things wrong when you're receiving mail: a) multiple addresses in the to: header b) your address in the cc: header c) your address nowhere because you were BCC'd d) mail via a mailing list with the list address in the to header Another way to reach your desired effect is to filter the messages sent to special addresses or mailing lists to separate folders, in the folder you can set the folder identity. When you're replying to message TB uses the identity from the folder you've selected. This way you'll catch the cases a, b and d. Of course you could use one folder to accept more than one address, especially when they're special case addresses that won't be included in big runs (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc) and use %From="%OToAddr" in that folder as folder template, but I wouldn't advise to use that in your account template, just to many cases where might bite you in the tail. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply address from To address?
Dear Paul, @21-May-2004, 14:47 Paul Jansen [PJ] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> If your address is always the TO address in the original mail, >> you can just use the macro %From="%OTOaddr" in your reply >> template. PJ> This is great I have set this as the account default, and then I PJ> can individually set the exceptions. Thanks very much. You can enhance this a bit and make it "friendlier" using constructions like this: %from="%otoname <%otoaddr>" which will couple how they originally addressed you (your "real name") with the address they wrote to, or you could say: %from="Paul Jansen <%otoaddr>" or %from="%fromname <%otoaddr>" or any similar combination. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.11 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpoKOiuYXL73.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply address from To address?
Thomas You suggested... > If your address is always the TO address in the original mail, you can > just use the macro %From="%OTOaddr" in your reply template. This is great I have set this as the account default, and then I can individually set the exceptions. Thanks very much. -- PJ Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All read messages in Inbox gone
Hello Stan, On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:48:42 -0500 GMT (21/05/2004, 09:48 +0700 GMT), Stan Robins wrote: >> First, hit crtl+= (or go to View / Display / All Mesages). SR> That (All Messages) is the setting for my Inbox. When I Display Read messages, it SR> just shows the few recent messages that I have read. OK. >> If that doesn't help, go to Folder / Browse Deleted Messages. SR> I did that already. This morning it didn't show any. Now it shows SR> about 5 deleted messages. All are recent. There is no rhyme or reason SR> to the messages displayed as "deleted." I'll take you didn't delete the messages by yourself. Did you ever read them and did they go straight from download to trash, no stop at Inbox? SR> I opened the Inbox messages.tbb file with a text editor and tried to SR> find a few of the missing messages. They weren't there. Hm. TB will download all mails into the Inbox first, from where they will be moved to the destination folder, if a filter applies. Moving means that it will be copied into that message.tbb file and makred "deleted" in the origin folder, in this case Inbox. That means, it is still in there but not displayed, until such time that you compress. Do you purge & compress on exit? If so, turn that off for now, at least the messages will still be there. >> Is the file messages.tbb still on her HD? SR> I think so. I did have her rebuild the index and also Browse Deleted SR> Messages. No luck with either. Copy the message.tbb (without the index file .tbi) to another dolder, and do this with a file manager while TB is closed. The messages from the destiantion folder will be overwritten, so maybe you want to rename that file to messages.tb2. Open TB and see whether the messages are in the folder that now has the copied message.tbb. If you don't see anything, try "browse deleted". SR> I wonder how many have reported this problem. I suspect a massive bug SR> related to the filter routines. It hasn't been reported as far as I know, and I think you have a stray filter. We'll get to that when we see whether my theory works. If you are not compressing, I'm on the wrong track. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. QUESTION: If a fire hydrant has H2O on the inside, what is on the outside? ANSWER: K9P Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply address from To address?
Hello Paul, On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:58:01 +0100 GMT (21/05/2004, 16:58 +0700 GMT), Paul Jansen wrote: PJ> When I reply to an email sent to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is it possible to PJ> have this as the from and reply to address rather than the default PJ> account address? If your address is always the TO address in the original mail, you can just use the macro %From="%OTOaddr" in your reply template. If your address may be somewhere else, you'll need regex which I don't speak. You do not need a Reply-To header if that address is the same as the From address. Should there be one created by the account-level settings for some reason, you can delete it in your reply template by using %ReplyTo="". -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 10. A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo SMTP doesn't work with the Bat?!
Hello Britt, On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:40:52 +0200 GMT (21/05/2004, 15:40 +0700 GMT), Britt Henrikson wrote: >> Errors Sending Mail (SMTP) >> The Yahoo! Mail SMTP server requires authentication. To learn >> how to configure your email program, please choose from the >> following supported programs: BH> As you can see, I'm using Foxmail which is not on the above list, but it works anyway! That's because it authenticates before sending. You can do this in TB under Account / Properties / Transport / Send Mail / Authentication. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes; why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance ? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam Filtering
On Friday, May 21, 2004, 6:00:44 AM, Andre wrote: > But 0.4 is pretty old and 0.5 works much better. From my experience you > have to retrain when you upgrade to 0.5, though. When I upgraded to 0.5, I not only had to retrain, but I ended up tanking all the files from any previous BayesIT installation. So, all of my spambases went into the trash and then I reinstalled 0.5 and then trained it. Just wanted to clarify. -- Alex Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam Filtering
On 5/21/04, at 5:25 AM, Andre Wichartz sent the following: JT>> Go to check and see what version of BayesIT you have, I will guess that it is JT>> something other than 0.4. That is what I found out, once I deleted out the JT>> BayesIT that was installed with the program and put 0.4 in things seem to be JT>> working fine now. AW> But 0.4 is pretty old and 0.5 works much better. From my experience you AW> have to retrain when you upgrade to 0.5, though. I didn't know there was an 0.5 but when I installed TB! there was a much older version that it installed. Will go look for 0.5 was just there last night and thought 0.4 was the latest. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie "The harder you work the luckier you become." Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under BayesIt! 0.4gm, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
Hello Jimmie, On 21 May 2004 at 01:09:22 -0500 GMT [08:09 CEST] you wrote: JT> Go to check and see what version of BayesIT you have, I will guess that it is JT> something other than 0.4. That is what I found out, once I deleted out the JT> BayesIT that was installed with the program and put 0.4 in things seem to be JT> working fine now. But 0.4 is pretty old and 0.5 works much better. From my experience you have to retrain when you upgrade to 0.5, though. -- Cheers, Andre "Avoid overly pretentious job titles such as 'Lord of the Realm, Defender of the Faith, Emporer of Siberia' or 'Director of Corporate Planning'." ~ The Official MBA Handbook on business cards Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New line problems
Hello Britt, On 21 May 2004 at 10:35:23 +0200 GMT [10:35 CEST] you wrote: BH> I know that the two features are not the same thing, but wordwrap only BH> works the way I want it to if Autoformat is turned on. If Autowrap is BH> checked and not Autoformat and I insert text afterwards, the lines BH> keep going on to the right. If I insert a lot, they eventually jump BH> down, if I only insert a little, they stay long and I have to reformat BH> the paragraph, just like you say. Have you tried pasting with Shift+Ctrl+Ins or Edit->Paste formated? -- Cheers, Andre "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed." Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply address from To address?
When I reply to an email sent to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is it possible to have this as the from and reply to address rather than the default account address? Thanks PJ Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Links
Hi All, Another couple of problems which you may have discussed on the list before but I would be grateful for any advice. 1. If I click on an html link in the message preview window, it simply goes to the top of the message. If I click on the link a second time, then it opens my browser (IE6) as normal. Not a big problem but why is this? 2. If I reply to a message which contains a html link and quote the original text, then all instances of the '&' character (without the quotes) in the original link get replaced by the space character in the new message. Obviously, the link no longer works in the new message. This is a much bigger problem for me and so, any ideas why this happens and is there any way that I can stop it? -- Best regards, John Cunnane -- Using 2.10.03 on Windows 2000 SP4 -- Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo SMTP doesn't work with the Bat?!
Hello Britt, Friday, May 21, 2004, 9:40:52 AM, you wrote: BH> This yahoo-address is not my ordinary address that I'm using BH> in The Bat. When I started a new account there to be able to post BH> to this list with The Bat, POP worked but not SMTP, so I had to BH> post from another mail client or from the web mail. I thought it BH> was something temporary with the server, but it seems not to be BH> (the text below is copied from Yahoo). This is not a major issue BH> for me at all since I'm normally not using this address in The BH> Bat, but for somebody who uses Yahoo and only has The Bat it BH> certainly would be. Does any of you have the same experience and BH> have a solution? It's working just fine for me. Looking at the error message, the problem is clear: >> Errors Sending Mail (SMTP) >> The Yahoo! Mail SMTP server requires authentication. To learn >> how to configure your email program, please choose from the >> following supported programs: Let's ignore the big long list of programs - that's a distraction. The problem seems to be that you're not actually authenticating when sending mail. Yahoo!'s SMTP servers require authentication, probably to prevent abuse by spammers etc. With the Inbox of your Yahoo! account selected, go to the "Account" menu and choose "Properties...". Go to the "Transport" section, and click on the "Authentication..." button next to the "SMTP Server" field. Ensure that the option "Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554)" is checked. For Yahoo!, you should ensure that the option below titled "Use settings of Mail Retrieval" is checked - this will force The Bat! to use the Yahoo! password entered for POP3 retrieval, which is the master Yahoo! password - this just saves you from entering your Yahoo! username and password more than once. (And prevents typing errors from causing you any aggravation.) I've just happily sent a test message from my Yahoo! account to this account, and read the drivel I sent without problems - so this definitely works. ;-) The long list of programs that are "supported" mail clients more than likely refers to the help that Yahoo! can give you - they can't possibly give instructions for every mail client, nor can they teach their support staff every mail client. Therefore, they concentrate on what they see as the most popular mail clients. (How Incredimail got on that list I'll never know. *grins*) The omission of The Bat! is evidently a grave one, so I shall send them a snotty mail when I next come to renew my POP3 access with Yahoo! ;-) -- Best regards, Philipmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 pgpcw9KYfml6W.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: All read messages in Inbox gone
Hello Stan, > Whatever is happening here is obviously intolerable. I hope someone > has an explanation and remedy. Have you looked at your Inbox properties? Do you have "Keep messages in the base for (days):" selected? If so, for how many days? Also, what is your setting for On Exit "Remove old messages"? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Yahoo SMTP doesn't work with the Bat?!
This yahoo-address is not my ordinary address that I'm using in The Bat. When I started a new account there to be able to post to this list with The Bat, POP worked but not SMTP, so I had to post from another mail client or from the web mail. I thought it was something temporary with the server, but it seems not to be (the text below is copied from Yahoo). This is not a major issue for me at all since I'm normally not using this address in The Bat, but for somebody who uses Yahoo and only has The Bat it certainly would be. Does any of you have the same experience and have a solution? > Errors Sending Mail (SMTP) > The Yahoo! Mail SMTP server requires authentication. To learn how to configure your > email program, please choose from the following supported programs: > Outlook 2002 (XP) & 2003 > Outlook 98 & 2000 > Microsoft Outlook Express > Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh > Entourage 2001 and higher > Eudora 5.1 and higher > IncrediMail build 618 and higher > Netscape Mail - All Versions > If your program and version are not listed above, you may have trouble connecting to > the Yahoo! Mail SMTP servers. Other programs and versions are not supported. As you can see, I'm using Foxmail which is not on the above list, but it works anyway! -- Britt Henrikson Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP Server Space/Quota.
Hello there, I've just noticed a nice feature in Thunderbird that I've not seen or am not aware of in TB! When I right click on a folder and look at 'Quota', I can see my usage and status for the space available in IMAP on the server compared to what I'm using. Is this or something similar available in TB! so I can keep an eye on space? -- Thanks, Chris. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New line problems
Hi Robin, > Autowrap and Autoformat are not the same thing. You can keep > Autowrap on and have Autoformat turned off, then use the format > block option (Alt+L for format left) to reformat the paragraph if > you need to. I know that the two features are not the same thing, but wordwrap only works the way I want it to if Autoformat is turned on. If Autowrap is checked and not Autoformat and I insert text afterwards, the lines keep going on to the right. If I insert a lot, they eventually jump down, if I only insert a little, they stay long and I have to reformat the paragraph, just like you say. But I don't want to reformat anything afterwards, I want both functions to work from the beginning and at the same time: new lines by pressing Enter and automatic wordwrap when text is inserted. The two features just don't seem to work at the same time. -- Britt Henrikson Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail download problem
> That reminds of a similar problem I had when I first started using > The Bat. I ran across a suggestion to delete the bat*.tmp files from > my temp directory. There turned out to be thousands of them. As soon > as I did this all was well. You might try this. In my case I later > discovered that the import from Pegasus had created those thousands > of .tmp files and not cleaned them up. Dear, wonderful Wayne, your trick worked! I too had imported my mails into The Bat, and I found 36 425 (!) bat*.tmp-files, of which I of course had no idea, altogether 84 MB. I deleted them yesterday, and this morning the mail download worked without any problems. I'm so happy - a thousand thanks to you! List owners, please write this into you FAQ or make a note of it until the next beginner asks the same thing on this list! I was on the verge of giving up on the Bat because of this, since it was driving me mad, and I found it really strange that nobody could solve the problem at first. There must be loads of beginners who have their mails in another e-mail client and import them into the Bat. -- Happy at last, Britt Henrikson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
