Shift+Delete really deletes
Hello, While trying to set up a system where pressing Shift+Delete would move emails to an archive folder, I lost several hundred messages. I selected all the messages in a folder, pressed Shift + Delete and specified the destination folder. The deletion progress bar finished, then the progress bar window hung. So I restarted the program. The files seem to have vanished. A normal delete would have put these messages in the Trash folder, which is empty. Where could they have gone and how can I retrieve them? Thanks for any help! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply Template WAS: Re[2]: Shift+Delete really deletes
Hi Roelof, On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ Also, the TBUDL AB reply template isn't working. Any ideas there? R Maybe two AB entries for TBUDL? I *did* have two TBUDL address entries, for some reason; though they both had the same reply template. But when I deleted on entry the template worked fine. Were you born this smart? :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shift+Delete really deletes
Hi Mica, On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 5:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A normal delete would have put these messages in the Trash folder, which is empty. Where could they have gone and how can I retrieve them? M They are in the cache (providing that you didn't compress the folder[s] M after the deletion). M 1) Go to your Mail base, search for the folder you did delete messages M from, and copy messages.tbb file somewhere aside... ... I got Roelof's reply earlier and his method worked fine, but thanks Mica! M Another way is to search through your pagefile.sys, but this one we'll M (p)reserve for some other times. (-: Sounds scary. I'm not ready. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding to a subject line
Is there a way to add a prefix to a message subject line, when replying? I can't find a way to do this using the macros provided. Thank you! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit or Bayes Filter
Hello, I recently reinstalled TB! and wanted to try the spam plugin, Bayesit. This program is not working well at all; I trained it with over 3,000 spam messages, yet these are still routinely delivered into my inbox with very few ending up in the junk folder. I am using the default settings. I know there have been problems with Bayesit in the past but hoped these had been solved. I am thinking of switching to Bayes Filter, which worked well for me until I upgraded to a higher TB! version. Anyone have experience or suggestions for either of these programs? If I didn't want to try built-in spam software, I would go back to K9 which worked very well and which I would recommend. Thank you in advance, -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcut
Hello all, I am trying to set up a keyboard shortcut for Justify Left. I open the Customize Window, create a new toolbar, add the command (from Message Editor Form in the left column). Then I right click None under the Shortcuts box on the right, and press the key I want (F10). I click Assign and the toolbar is created. The shortcut doesn't work, after all this. I have checked the option for this new toolbar in Customize, and not checked it. Neither works. As a strange byproduct, after doing all this, the right-click menu does not work when composing a message. Has anyone successfully set a new keyboard shortcut? This seems rather a painful procedure; not sure this is an improvement over the previous method. Thank you! -- Best wishes, Pat Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I cannot insert Quick Templates using the keyboard shortcut
Hello Costa, On Sunday, February 13, 2005, 1:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costa, I guess it is because the handle of your Quick Template consists of more than one word. Rename the handle to a single word, then it should work (tried it myself right now). CP Thank you for the suggestion. Alas, it's not caused by more than one CP word in the handle. All but one of the handles are single words, and CP none of them work when pressing Ctrl + space bar. CP I don't know how long this has been the case, because I don't usually CP use a keyboard shortcut to insert Quick Templates in my emails, but I CP do recall this working in a previous version of The Bat. FWIW, the Ctrl + space bar works fine for calling up a Quick Template in the beta version of TB! that I am using. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Watcher, On Friday, December 17, 2004, 10:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: going into the Spam folder. After reading your message I will double-check the Spam folder from now on. I should have been more clear; I meant g-mail's spam folder, so I'm reliant on g-mail's spam filter. I don't have g-mail forwarded to my TB! accounts. W Don't you guys use the plugin spam filter that comes with TB? Some people seem to have good success with the BayesIt plug in; but many have reported problems with it here on the list. I tried BayesFilter and found it was much more efficient, but there seemed to be some problems with XP SP2 compatibility. Now I'm using K9 for spam filtering. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Watcher, On Friday, December 17, 2004, 3:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: be some problems with XP SP2 compatibility. Now I'm using K9 for spam filtering. W I haven't heard of or used K9 so I can't speak to that but I'm W running XP SP2 with baysit just fine. To clarify, the suspected compatibility problem with XP SP2 was with the otherwise excellent program, Bayesfilter (which can also be used as a plugin with TB!). I have no experience with BayesIt. K9 isn't a TB! plugin but operates very smoothly and so far is working at over 98% accuracy. But, if BayesIt works for you, there is certainly no reason to switch. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hi Diego, On Thursday, December 16, 2004, 11:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I was also getting a ton of spam through g-mail. The last batch I PJ reported (as per the button on the main g-mail window) and haven't PJ had any since. Could be coincidence but if you haven't tried it... DD I had a problem with that. There´s a famous writer, García Márquez, DD who wrote a book after 10 years of silence, named ´Memorias de mis DD putas tristes´, translated, Memories of my sad sluts (or any other DD synonim you can find (-8 ). The preorder of the book was a mess, the DD spam filters all over killed the messages coming and going. I didn´t DD get a single message about the book on gmail. I see I am still getting spam to the g-mail account, though it is going into the Spam folder. After reading your message I will double-check the Spam folder from now on. DD PD: Sorry about my lousy english. Nothing wrong with your English. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hi Tony, On Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... TB I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I TB daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after TB about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. I was also getting a ton of spam through g-mail. The last batch I reported (as per the button on the main g-mail window) and haven't had any since. Could be coincidence but if you haven't tried it... -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter symbol question
Hello all, I am still having problems filtering the K9-identified spam to the spam folder and have tried everything I (and you) could think of. But I noticed a symbol beside the K9 filter in the tree view of the sorting office: http://www.tangleworld.com/screenshot2.jpg ...it looks like a little hand to me. Can anyone tell me what it signifies, and whether it might be the problem with the filter? BTW, I have moved the K9 filter to the top, bottom, middle and changed the conditions around and tried various combinations. The messages it won't filter are all addressed to a specific sub-account, though spam to other sub-accounts is filtered properly. Thank you! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter symbol question
Hi Peter, On Thursday, December 2, 2004, 2:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ But I noticed a symbol beside the K9 filter in the tree view of the PJ sorting office: PJ http://www.tangleworld.com/screenshot2.jpg ... PM I'd describe it as a hand too, indeed. I don't see this here on Win2K, PM but it looks to me like it is just there to indicate the selected PM filter. Ack, I knew I should have taken a slightly different screenshot. The little hand is there even when the filter is not selected. There is a green checkmark that indicates the filter is selected. PJ BTW, I have moved the K9 filter to the top, bottom, middle and changed PJ the conditions around and tried various combinations. The messages it PJ won't filter are all addressed to a specific sub-account, though spam PJ to other sub-accounts is filtered properly. PM What do you mean by sub-accounts? Do they have account status in The PM Bat!? Then you'd have to check all their sorting offices. The messages in question are addressed to the sub-account and forwarded to my main account address. From there I they are (or should be) filtered to its own folder. I'll go back and check my settings again though. PM I have K9 working flawlessly here (except for the occasional false PM negative), and like you I only filter to a special folder. shrug I know -- as I said in another message, K9 works and learns very quickly, so I haven't given up on it just yet. Pretty sure I am doing something wrong here. :-) But that little hand is a mystery. Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter symbol question
Chris and Stuart, On Thursday, December 2, 2004, 6:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ ...it looks like a little hand to me. Can anyone tell me what it PJ signifies, and whether it might be the problem with the filter? CW... signifies that the filter is set for 'manual re-filtering CW only' which is probably why it isn't working. CW Go to options on that filter and check to see if the 2nd box down is CW checked for manual filtering. Thank you both; I'm hoping this is what the problem was! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hello Mark,
On Monday, November 29, 2004, 9:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PJ The filter is as follows:
PJ TB! Message Filter
PJ beginFilter
PJ UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
PJ Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
PJ Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
PJ MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
PJ IsActive
PJ endFilter
PJ Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
MP This one works for me:
MP TB! Message Filter
MP beginFilter
MP UID: [4A31FDE0.01C49062.236C3EE8.40D55E8C]
MP Name: K9\20Spam
MP Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20spam\0D\0A}
MP MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMark\5CInbox\5CSpam\20Trap\20K9
MP DeleteFromServer
MP IsActive
MP IsSendQueue
MP endFilter
I tried this one and it didn't work either. One account uses
Header contains X-Text-Classification: spam
as a condition; another account uses
Header field X-Text-Classification match spam
(minus quotation marks)
...and neither works consistently. That is, some of the messages K9
marks as spam are redirected, others are not. I've checked the headers
and they are correctly classified, but not always moved.
Could the destination folder have anything to do with it? The filter
is supposed to move them to the Junk folder that already exists.
Thank you!
--
Best wishes,
Pat
A Canadian in Houston
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the purpose of filtering it. ASK Just to be on the safe side - you do have defined the header field ASK X-Text-Classification in Preferences | Messages | Message Headers? Yes, I did make that modification-- sorry, I should have mentioned it. K9 learns and works very quickly so this is frustrating; don't know whether it's a K9 problem or a TB problem, but suspect the latter. Thanks and... -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K9 learns and works very quickly ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* I've received a couple lately and you are right, they snuck past K9. However, if I simply send my bank account info I could be a millionaire and hire someone to filter my email! :-) ASK Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your ASK accounts. I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. Thanks for your help! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hi Alexander, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. ASK I've configured K9 to *not* add the spam percentage count to the header so ASK that it'll simply contain spam. ASK IIRC the default setting is to include that counter so the header is ASK spam[89] or something. Maybe thats the problem. OK, I've changed that setting and here's hoping it will help! Thanks again. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: K9 spam filter
Hello Thorvald,
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TN My filter looks like this:
TN TB! Message Filter
TN beginFilter
TN UID: [564C1620.01C4B05E.1A441C3F.7FE14B3D]
TN Name: SPAM
TN Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
TN MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
TN MarkRead
TN SetColour 226723330
TN IsActive
TN Ignore
TN IsSendQueue
TN endFilter
TN and it works perfectly. It is the last filter in a list of *account*
TN filters.
Thank you; I will give this one a try too.
TN BTW, is there a way to let TB display the filters in a more readable
TN and accessible format?
I can't really decipher the above format, until I copy and paste into a
new filter.
--
Best wishes,
Pat
A Canadian in Houston
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
K9 spam filter
Hello,
I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk
folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to
use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the
purpose of filtering it.
The filter is as follows:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
IsActive
endFilter
Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
--
Best wishes,
Pat
A Canadian in Houston
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
Hi Tony, On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 1:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TB Hello P.Johnson, TB A reminder of what P.Johnson on TBUDL typed on: TB 23 November 2004 at 22:10:14 GMT -0600 No, it's the Canadian football final; TB How can it be called Football when they keep picking it up with their TB hands and running off with it? :) Handball was already taken. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hang problem resolved WAS: Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
On Monday, November 22, 2004, 5:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on PJ my new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem. PJ I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only PJ assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would PJ affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a PJ different conflict. MB When you were first trying to sort out the hang problem, it was on MB my mind to wonder if you were up to trying a beta. MB.. MB Since you have WinRar you could easily get the 3.0.2.5rar or the MB 3.0.2.6rar installed right over The Bat! files you have now. MB That's if you wanted to sign up as a beta tester. All the developers MB ask is that you use it normally--that's the minimum, and that's what I MB do--and report any difficulties on the tbbeta list. Mary already knows this, but for the benefit of others who may wonder, I did sign up and download the latest beta release, and so far the hang problem has been resolved. I'm still nervous every time the Connection Centre pops up and starts downloading but I'm sure I'll get over it. :-) Thanks to those who were helpful and patient during what turned out to be quite an ordeal; especially Mary, who hung in there with me long into the stormy night. :-) I don't think I realized until this past week how much I rely on TB!, not just to receive mail but to organize keep records and sort out all the different threads of my life. Whew! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello Greg, On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still change it to TheBat2.0? GS No, try re-written batch file below. If your on WinXP Pro or Win2k log GS in as an admin user. Open text editor and simply copy and paste, then GS save it in: GS ...snip Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on my new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem. I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a different conflict. Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate your efforts to help, and your patience. GS No problem the Packers just beat the Texans with a field goal with time GS expiring so it is the least I can do. Poor old Texans... I suppose I should be a fan but I'm not interested in football at all (though Toronto just won the Grey Cup :-) ... no, make that :-( as they beat the Lions). -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
Hi Greg, On Monday, November 22, 2004, 9:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I got the transfer sorted and TB! is now neatly installed on my new computer, but alas, there still seems to be a hang problem. GS Glad to hear you have it installed, sorry to hear about the hang GS problem. What does the account log (Shft+Ctrl+A) say when the problem GS occurs? Nothing like a screenshot... www.tangleworld.com/screenshot.jpg . The Connection Centre (upper left) is still hanging just like that as I write, won't close, and the log (lower right) seems to think it's all over. What is worse is that it is hanging on a different account now (as well as the original). And to close TB! I must use the Task Manager. I should mention that clicking Abort All or End Task on the CC does not help close it. Clicking the X makes it invisible, but it does not close (at least TB! says something is still running). I checked with the ISP and there is no problem there. I can only assume it is the new computer, possibly SP2 (though how that would affect one account in my email program I don't know) or a different conflict. GS...Have you checked the account transport settings GS (Ctrl+Shft+P)? Oh yes, many times. :-) There seems to be nothing wrong there. Poor old Texans... I suppose I should be a fan but I'm not interested in football at all (though Toronto just won the Grey Cup :-) ... no, make that :-( as they beat the Lions). GS Is the Grey cup soccer? That sport is definitely growing in the GS US. No, it's the Canadian football final; Canadian football played like its US counterpart only on a bigger field, only 3 downs, and some other rule differences. This Grey Cup was the 92nd annual game. Also, the final was played in an outdoor stadium, in NOVEMBER. Whoa. lol Thanks again, -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transferring TB with batch file
Hello TBUDLers, I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!), even though it is the latest release. All new releases were installed into that folder and the name never changed. I cannot change the name of the folder (believe me, I tried). My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the following file: --- @Echo off Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe Echo Echo * !! Backing up The Bat registry entries !! * Echo Echo . if exist TBbckup1.reg del TBbckup2.reg if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! echo. if not exist TBbckup1.reg echo Error! Something went wrong. Backup not echo successful. if exist TBbckup1.reg echo Success! Your registry entries for The Bat! are echo backed up! Echo ** Echo * !! Creating RAR Archive of The Bat Directory!! * Echo ** Echo . if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\The Bat! --- I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can provide would be very much appreciated. Thank you! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello Tony, On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: response suitable for a simpleton like me. :-) Any help any of you can provide would be very much appreciated. TB Hope I wasn't too technical in my reply to you Pat? I sent it before I TB read this. Tony, no, your explanation was just fine. I asked for help here in tbudl before I heard back from you, sorry. I'll respond via PM with the problem I am having. Thank you!! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Transferring TB with batch file
Hello Greg, On Sunday, November 21, 2004, 10:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to do a specific backup and restore using a batch file, so that I can transfer my current TB over to my new computer. Tony Boom has very kindly given me instructions to do so, using Winrar as my zip program. The only problem I can see is that my TB folder is called TheBat2.0 for some reason (as opposed to The Bat!), GS ^ GS So is your program files located in directory below? GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 Yes. GS Is your mail directory located below the above directory so it would be GS in the directory below? GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\MAIL GS I'll assume yes. Right you are. :-) I cannot change the name of the folder (believe me, I tried). GS If you were logged out of TB and have WinXP Pro on NTFS file system you GS are probably logged in as a limited user. Even if you were logged in as GS Admin user I don't know if you would want to change it because TB may GS not work afterwards. IIRC TB directory structure saved in other files GS possibly registry which may throw things out of wack. You lost me there, sorry. I do know that I couldn't change the name of the directory; lost all the data files and had to go back (using GoBack). My question is, what wording, if any, do I need to change in the following file: GS See below: --- @Echo off Path C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe GS Hopefully WinRAR is installed here on your PC so you shouldn't have to GS make any changes, otherwise you have to make appropriate changes. I have WinRAR installed in both computers now. GS ... GS So I am SWAG'ing it. I would try batch from Program directory GS C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0\batch.bat which would put registry in GS program directory to be latter compressed into backup file which would GS be a good thing. Otherwise you may have to run from root directory GS C:\batch.bat Lost in space. Sorry to be so thick. :-( snip... if exist TBbckup1.reg rename TBbckup1.reg TBbckup2.reg GS I would rem the above line out because you want registry backed up GS provided you are going to use the exact directory structure on new GS machine, otherwise I would just use TB backup and do a clean install GS with it on new machine. So just put rem in front of above 2 lines. I tried the TB backup and restore and sadly it didn't work for me, which is why Tony's batch file transfer will be a godsend once I get it to work. ...By now you probably know I couldn't rem something if my life depended on it. start /w regedit /e TBbckup1.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! GS this backs up the registry to a file name TBbckup1.reg which is real GS important for setting up later on new machine, otherwise you will have GS to do a clean install. When you get the .reg file on the new machine GS all you have to do is double click to put it in the registry. All that worked very well; but the .reg file created a directory called The Bat! and I am trying to install TheBat2.0. Anyway I didn't get my mail program restored. GS Remember GS you may want to do a clean install with backup from TB backup utility GS anyway. I am no expert here but think the only limitation on TB backup GS utility is to have the same directory structure below the Mail GS directory, whereas batch file backup requires both the same structure GS for the program AND mail files. I don't know why TB's backup restore didn't work... maybe The Bat! vs TheBat2.0 again. GS Also the other thing to note here is how are you going to transfer the GS backup files to the new PC. Are they hooked up on a network, or is GS your mail base very small. If small then you may get away with a CD or GS even a floppy. It all depends upon the size. I copied the zip files to a CD, then opened it in my new computer. snip... if exist C:\email\TBBackup.rar del C:\email\TBBackup.rar GS deletes old WinRar file below the C:\email\ directory. If you are GS going to use this line you will have to make sure directory structure GS agrees, otherwise change to whatever you want. I think all is ok here. C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\The Bat! GS This is the actual backup. I would assume the switches in WinRAR will GS backup all files in the directory and below, and WinRar is located in GS the same directory. So if your Mail directory is located somewhere GS else you will have to make changes. I am going to assume your Mail GS directory is located below the program directory and your backup is GS going to be in the C:\email\ directory. This being the case GS then change the line to the following: GS C:\Progra~1\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe a -u -as GS C:\email\TBBackup.rar C:\Program Files\TheBat2.0 In the registry the program is called The Bat!. So should I still change it to TheBat2.0? I hope I have explained this properly. I have absolutely no experience with batch files or this type of procedure, so please make your
Serious download problem update
Hello, and thanks to those who tried to help me with my download problem. To recap, when trying to access email from one account the Connection Centre would hang and the mail stayed on the server. Then, the only way to close the CC was to close TB! using Task Manager. AV and spam programs were turned off to test the system, and made no difference. I cleared the mail off the server using OE, which had no problem with the download at all. I reinstalled and re-setup all the offending account information, new folders, filters and so on. After a few beautiful normal message downloads, the Connection Centre started to hang again, often with messages visible that were not downloaded. Currently it hangs sometimes, sometimes it doesn't. History tells me it will only get worse. I haven't cleaned out (and sold) my old computer yet, and there TB! also sits, working perfectly. Something obviously happened in the transfer/restore. Can anyone at all suggest a way to safely move my old program into my new computer, or otherwise offer a solution? Last time I used TB's restore (onto disk) to move the program. Backup4All couldn't seem to do the job. Failing that, I am looking at other mail programs, much as I hate that idea. Is anyone able to offer help, or a source of help? -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Serious mail download problem
Hello, I am having a real problem now with collecting mail; not sure whether it is a Connection Centre issue or not. The Connection Centre continues to hang ... it will stay open and unresponsive until I close TB! using the Task Manager. Other times it appears to have finished downloading, but does not close then either. Bottom line is that I am not receiving all incoming mail. For what it's worth, I uploaded a screenshot. http://www.tangleworld.com/screenshot.jpg Not sure how this will be helpful. It looks like the CC is in progress, but nothing is happening (honest). I've sent myself test messages (not received) and am aware of other messages not coming through. It seems to happen with the one account; I have double checked settings. And I have turned off my virus protection (NAV, which came with the system) with no change. Please tell me how I can resolve this. I hate to have to start up another email client. Here's hoping I receive the reply to this one (what is the name of the online list service?) Thank you. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection centre hang
Hello Ian, On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 1:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ The Connection Centre (the window that monitors incoming/outgoing PJ mail) has started to hang after a new mail download. After mail is PJ downloaded, the Connection Centre sits on the last account and does PJ not close. ... IAW I get it happening occasionally but only when it is not the foreground IAW window. If you make it the foreground window and download new IAW messages, it should clear itself when finished. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to make a difference if the window is in the background or foreground... just tested it now and the Connection Centre window is still open, blank now, even though the connection is finished. And, if I then manually close the Connection Centre window, then close TB!, I get the warning window: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? So I guess it is still technically open. It is an annoyance, and I'm not used to this in TB! :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection centre hang
Hello, The Connection Centre (the window that monitors incoming/outgoing mail) has started to hang after a new mail download. After mail is downloaded, the Connection Centre sits on the last account and does not close. Is this a bug; is there a solution or workaround? I should mention, though I hope it is not related, that I have just restored TB from a backup to a new computer. Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Restoring TB from a backup
Hello Roelof, On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 9:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ It didn't work. I restored my TB folder and called it The PJ Bat!, then downloaded the current version of TB from the site, PJ which installed itself (. It asked me to create an account; I PJ started with one (the first one in my folder)-- but all I got was PJ a skeleton account. ... ...in the end, I followed the instructions on the Ritlabs site, which say to use TB backup, download a fresh TB, and then restore from the backup. This was done out of desperation, as I could not get the installation to work. My reluctance to use TB backup and restore was only vaguely based on comments here, that this was not the best or most efficient way to go. Anyway, while TB! may need some tweaking, it did work for me. Roelof, thank you. I don't know what went wrong. But I appreciate your help in this. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: TB and AI RoboForm
Hi Ralph and Michael, On Sunday, November 7, 2004, 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MA Sunday, November 7, 2004, 8:51:43 AM, (Internet Time - @660) you wrote: ... Yep I get the same thing but it is confusing. The Roboform dialog box says Failed MAPI Logon - The Operation Completed Successfully which is a oxymoron, right? :D I also get this strange message. R for some people it seems to work flawlessly - but not for us two at R least. Us three. R let's do some version checking? R winxp home sp2 R TB! 3.0.1.33 R RoboForm 6.1.2 Trial MA WinXP Pro SP2 MA TB! 3.0.2.5 MA RoboForm 6.1.2 Paid Version MA AIRoboForm Adapter 6.1.1.0 (for FireFox intregration) WinXP Home SP1 TB! 3.0.1.33 RoboForm 6.1.2 Paid TB! has apparently *not been installed as the simple MAPI request handler in my case. MA So really not very much is common other than the RoboForm. Will do MA some more testing and will post it on here. I'm not sure exactly how I would use this feature, but thought I would let you know you're not the only ones unable to do so! :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, November 6, 2004, 11:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ASK Well, if you don't mind - its OK. I wouldn't like it, even though I'm on a ASK DSL. :) The whole update process is a bit uncomfortable. You download the ASK complete installation archive at least twice a month. My AV does all that ASK in the background without my interaction. But it isn't free, so thats the ASK deal maybe. :-) If I would try to update it online it would disconnect me countless times, or connection will drop in coma, the equal number of times, without possibility of resuming so I'd probably have to bequeath this online update to my progeny, using such a method. ... ASK My expectations are different that yours, thats all. I want easy slim ASK automatic updates without wading into the depths of the program, activating ASK some scheduler adding an event to it to get them automatically first ASK place, and all that... it must be easy for the end user. Can I ask what AV program you are using? -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello Leo, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. LL I have a Trend Micro Office Suite mandatory at work, including the laptop LL which runs The Bat (1.x) for my private mail. I receive a lot of spam, and LL some of it is virus-infected. The problem is, that when the Bat stores LL this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. LL For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because LL OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is LL not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling LL period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the LL server. So TB mail is scanned; but Trend then is alerted to the virus which TB has isolated. Not good. I wonder if there would be any difference in the Home edition, and with TB v3.x. Thanks for the information! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hello WilWilWil, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 10:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LL ...The problem is, that when the Bat stores LL this virus attachment on disk, the OfficeScan pops up saying it's a virus. LL For some reason TheBat cannot continue operation (I guess because LL OfficeScan takes over the file for quarantine or smth), and the message is LL not deleted on the server. This means that every 5 minutes (my polling LL period) I get this message and have to delete the e-mail manually on the LL server. W...I had the same problem when testing KAV personal Pro 5 with TB3 ! W TB3 froze because KAV blocked some TB databases files. It was W very annoying. That why I 've chosen AVG 7. Now viruses are great W managed and moved to quarantine without perturbation. W And for firewall I use Kerio Personal Firewall 4. It's free and W work well with my system (AVG / Ad-Aware 6 / TB3). I currently use ZA Pro and AVG free and am not 100% happy with either. I'll have a look at Kerio. Thanks for your help. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Alexander, On Friday, November 5, 2004, 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. ASK Do you have a reason to look at this specific product? I read a very good review of the product; also wanted to try a bundled virus/firewall. ASK AFAIK there's a Kaspersky AV plugin available for TheBat - Yes, I visited the Kaspersky site and there is a plugin available. ASK Firewall - well, the best firewall is air. The air thats between the ASK plug and the socket when you pull the cable of your internet ASK connection. :) Pull the... cable?? Disconnect??? ASK OK, joking aside... Whew. :-)) ASK the personal firewall that runs on the very same ASK machine it should protect is subject to lengthy discussions for a ASK while. However, I do see a benefit from using this kind of software, ASK so here's my two cents:... ASK #1 is the real security issue, and the built-in firewall of Win XP ASK (SP2) is good enough for that, period. #2 is a privacy issue - and ASK you'll need a separate product for that. There's a couple of freeware ASK personal firewall solutions, and I would use one of them (Tiny ASK Personal Firewall, Sygate, Outpost...). Yes, I was hoping to install something like the PC-cillin suite and not have to go shopping. Oh well! Thanks very much for your comments. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Mary, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and PJ virus protection I can, MB Pat, I have had no problems with F-Secure. MB http://www.f-secure.com/ There are so many! ... but as I said in an earlier post, I was (for some reason) looking for a combination anit-virus/firewall product and f-secure also fits the bill. MB I am using only its AV (it now offers a suite, new this year, with MB firewall) and I have just renewed my license, after one year's use. MB The interface is friendly and it has the advantage of combining 3 MB separate virus-scanning engines. XP SP2 recognizes it. There's no MB plug-in for TB!, but that's not necessary. F-Secure recognizes an MB e-mail infection as it is being downloaded. It recognizes an infected MB file as soon as it's clicked on. MB For my firewall I'm using the free Sygate. Just upgraded to the latest MB one. I like it for its simple user interface, also. Sygate gets good reviews too. MB But WilWilWil has a good set-up, too, with the free anti-virus program MB AVG--which *does* have a plug-in for TB!--and Kerio as firewall. I MB used AVG for about six months. Left it for Kaspersky (KAV), because MB Kaspersky updated more often. I am currently using AVG free version and it seems to work well, though in those comparison charts is not as aggressive as some anti-virus programs. On the other hand, I've been looking at those charts so much I've gone cross-eyed. MB Kaspersky's interface I found quite MB complicated. And it no longer supports The Bat! with a plug-in. Last MB November I moved to F-Secure. It can be set to check automatically for MB updates as often as you like. Virus Definitions are usually updated MB daily, but sometimes more often. The Kaspersky site says there is a plugin for TB!, but did say version 1.x and up, which doesn't exactly build confidence. :-) MB The question of choosing an AV and a firewall to go with TB! comes up MB rather often on tbudl. You might try a search on the Gmane archives MB for more opinions. I know this topic comes up a lot, and really only wanted someone to say PC-cillin works PERFECTLY with The Bat!. But since it doesn't the info I've received has been helpful, and I really am sorry to open up this discussion again. I would insert the appropriate smiley here, but that's another discussion left alone for awhile! :-) --oops. Thanks Mary, for your always helpful comments. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Michael, On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus PJ protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin PJ Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this PJ suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility PJ between email programs and virus software. MR I use Trend OfficeScan, which has the same or similar engine to MR PC-Cillin. I had to manually change my Account Properties so that the MR mail server was 'localhost' and the user was of the format MR 'xxx%domain.com/pop.domain.com'. It's not as integrated as the MR programs that work directly with TheBat! but the other features of the MR product are nice. Did Trend provide instructions for changing your Account Properties? (They sound similar to the changes I made when using SpamPal.) Otherwise, you don't have a problem with OfficeScan shutting down TB!, like Leo did? Still, since the support at Trend was less than helpful, I may have to give the product a pass (that is, a fail :-)). I appreciate your help! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PC-cillin and TB!
Hi Mica, On Friday, November 5, 2004, 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. On the Trend site, under System Requirements, email, The Bat! is not listed... MM You simply could try some AV which is not at all specifically MM tied/dedicated to e-mail traffic; simply an engine which will treat ALL MM sorts of activities in the same way, controlling *everything* what MM happens to your machine - *including* mail traffic (without any need for MM a dedicated plug-in). That is exactly what I am looking for, but of course want the email scan included, as you say. Plug in not necessary. MM One of such ones is AntiVir (Personal Edition, MM which is free) I use often, and it (the Guard part of it) will react MM on ANY occurrence which involves a suspicious file/action. I haven't heard of this one! MM It is *very MM light* in spending resources whilst it monitors machine. That I like very much. MM And although I MM have pretty tight selective download filters, here and there AntiVir is MM catching some infected file, and asks me for action I'd prefer MM (renaming, deleting, denying/allowing access etc.). It does that very MM fast, so you can proceed download of other messages of that account, on MM the fly. ...as long as you don't have to be too techie to run the software efficiently? MM There are plenty of good AV programs, so is not very grateful to say MM which one is best, but basically those which are able to function MM independently, that is to treat all files/occurrences equally, using MM no special plug-in (which requires some sort of integration with a MM particular application, which, further, might be a cause of possible MM complications), are most reliable. Yes I think you are right; sometimes the convenience of a plug in turns out to be a major headache instead, and needless since most virus programs will scan without the integration. Thank you very much, Mica! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PC-cillin and TB!
Hello, I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility between email programs and virus software. On the Trend site, under System Requirements, email, The Bat! is not listed. I asked whether PC-cillin would scan my TB! mail, and got this reply: We have no answer to this question for now but you may try using your software but please enable the webmail scan feature. If you experience any problems, please do not hesitate to write us. Hope this helps. Hmmm. Thank you! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Missing sig in new messages
Hello, When composing a new message to (for example) TBUDL, my signature is not included (nor the to/from information), even though this is specified in the Address Book template, as follows: %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%Cursor %FROM=P.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] %Serenader(X-Rogue,:Pat_J:)%- -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION This template works fine if I start a new message from the AB, just doesn't work when I click on New Message from the main window. The folder template looks like this: %Cursor -- %DATESHORT ...though I understand the AB overrides the folder templates anyway. Can anyone please explain what I am doing wrong? Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Missing sig in new messages
Hello Roelof, On Saturday, October 30, 2004, 2:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ When composing a new message to (for example) TBUDL, my signature is PJ not included (nor the to/from information), even though this is PJ specified in the Address Book template, as follows: PJ %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%Cursor RO Rather useless when you're using it as AB template. It only gets RO triggered when you've got the addressee part right. ;-) So I can remove this line from the template? PJ %FROM=P.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] RO I'd change this into %From='P.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]' RO Names with dots and some other special characters have to be placed RO between double quote marks in the To: header Why? It seems to work fine as is, but of course that doesn't mean it really does. :-) PJ %Serenader(X-Rogue,:Pat_J:)%- RO eg New macro? What does it do, sing songs? lol I have no idea where that came from! Maybe that's next, musical smileys! PJ This template works fine if I start a new message from the AB, just PJ doesn't work when I click on New Message from the main window. RO When it works from the AB and not from a new message, presuming that RO you insert the To: address before you start typing text, would suggest RO that you've got multiple AB entries for TB or that you've got multiple RO AB's and the one you're using as default doesn't contain your RO template. OK, I've been clicking new message when TBUDL folder is highlighted, and expecting all the info to show. Guess I need to put the To info in first. Duh. Your help is very much appreciated, Roelof. -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Occasional freezing problems
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... AV it could be happening while checking mail, but certainly not only then - AV because I have my POP3 account set to be checked every 15 minutes and the AV freezing occurs every 20 - 30 seconds. TF I am now thinking that maybe another application that is running on TF your computer can cause the freezing, as I don't know what TB would do TF so fequently. Can you think of any other program that runs at the same TF time and does anythng regularly at these intervals? AV I've also experienced the scenario with the letters appearing AV later if I continue typing while the window has been frozen ... I'm coming in late on this, but FWIW, I also experienced this kind of freezing in TB!, version 2.12 I think it was, and it made composing emails almost unbearable. I ended up reinstalling my OS-- and eventually upgrading to XP. I'm not suggesting an OS upgrade :-) --just that I believe it was not a TB! problem (and that in my case, a major system house-cleaning seemed to stop the freeze). -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fed up with BayesIt
Hello Code2, On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C2 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of C2 spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about C2 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt C2 just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it. Either way, C2 I'm not prepared to invest any more time in it. C2 Can you guys suggest a better alternative? There is another bayesian filter plug-in for TB! called Bayes Filter: http://www.lkcc.org/achim I've been using it for about a week now with good results. HTH -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Filter to Common folder
Hello Stuart, On Friday, September 24, 2004, 1:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ The TB! window for anti-spam plug-ins has a minimal explanation of PJ scoring etc.; not enough for the likes of me. I need step by step help PJ for things like this. In any case, Bayes Filter is working beautifully PJ and I think my email downloads are faster now too. SC As a brief explanation from what I have been able to glean over the SC last while: ...snip Thanks very much for the explanation! SC If you use more than one computer to download email and you get the SC same Junk mail on both computers, because you leave messages on SC server, there is a trick to only having to deal with the Junk on one SC computer. Let me know if this is of interest. Not just now, but good to know for future reference. SC Born and raised and always lived just outside of Winnipeg. We drove from Toronto to Calgary one winter, and thought we would NEVER get out of Ontario. The prairies were like a huge breath of (cold) fresh air and an end to Ontario claustrophobia! Only stopped briefly in Winnipeg, but love the prairies (my mother was born and raised in Moose Jaw). -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt web english web page
Hello Marck, On Saturday, September 25, 2004, 7:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP ... I switched to Achim Winklers BayesFilter. That worked well MDP *except* ... it has an auto-whitelist function. Can you tell me a little more about the auto-whitelist? I've installed Bayes Filter with no problems and it seems to be working well. So far the only addresses in the whitelist file are those I added manually. MDP Which insisted on white-listing my own email address. Since much MDP of the spam comes /to/ that address ... well, you can guess the MDP outcome. All spam instantly whitelisted :-(. And there is no way you the whitelist can be controlled? MDP So I have switched back to BayesIt, seeing the positive feedback on MDP this new release. I've heard of nothing but problems with BayseIt, much as I would like it to work. MDP I find that BayesIt is not trapping any spam at all on my second main MDP email account MDP It's all rather confusing. You said it. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filter to Common folder
Hi Stuart, On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 11:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SC Yes, technically your spam is filtered, it is just that it is done by SC the anti-spam program instead of a filter you have created. And yes SC this list is an incredible source of expertise, not particularly from SC me, but from others. The TB! window for anti-spam plug-ins has a minimal explanation of scoring etc.; not enough for the likes of me. I need step by step help for things like this. In any case, Bayes Filter is working beautifully and I think my email downloads are faster now too. SC And just for you, a Canadian still in Canada. What part of Canada, eh? :-)) I grew up in Vancouver but have lived in both Calgary and Toronto. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: threading configuration
Hi Maurice, On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 8:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS Most notably, my experience shows that people using the following will MS always cause mails to look as if they were new threads: MS * Hotmail (unless used with OE or some Hotmail popper) MS * AOL MS * Earlier versions of Eudora (ie. 2.1.2) MS * MS Outlook in combination with Exchange (the problem is Exchange) MS * Novell GroupWise (the problem is the GroupWise Internet Agent) MS * Webmail interfaces from several providers Interesting. Some of the lists I belong to rarely thread, and I'm guessing it's because so many of their members use one of the above clients. Thanks for clearing up a mystery. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter to Common folder
Hi Terry, On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They already go to the folder without a filter but are marked Read. TGM What is the setting in Account properties options mark messages TGM as read when being read for? Is this set to 0? No, it is set to 15 seconds. This is a common folder so not really attached to a specific account though... right? Thanks Terry. Any other ideas? -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter to Common folder
Hello Stuart, On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SC Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 10:41:36 AM, you wrote: PJ How do I create a filter that sends messages to a common folder PJ Unread? They already go to the folder without a filter but are marked PJ Read. SC How do they go into a common folder without being filtered there from SC an Inbox somewhere else? Unless, are they Junk mail? Yes they are Junk Mail, in a common folder. I finally found the TB! options window [Options--Preferences-- Anti-spam] which let me mark the messages Unread. I still don't know what the various options are there, and the Help menu is nonexistent. So I do rely on the expertise of others, like you. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayes Filter - Junk folders
Hello all, I installed the Bayes filter plug-in for TB! and suddenly realize I have no Junk folders. Since I have been using Spampal I may have deleted these folders at some stage. Can I just create new Junk folders, and do I need one for each account? Or can I direct the Junk to the existing Spam folder? Thank you! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bayes Filter - Junk folders
Hi Michael, On Monday, September 20, 2004, 2:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed the Bayes filter plug-in for TB! and suddenly realize I have no Junk folders. Since I have been using Spampal I may have deleted these folders at some stage. Can I just create new Junk folders, and do I need one for each account? Or can I direct the Junk to the existing Spam folder? MA When I installed the plug-in, the program itself created the Junk Mail MA itself so I didn't have to create them. Once you start getting Junk MA Mail it will create the folder. That is as long as you have it MA configured that way. :) Thanks Michael. The spam disappeared miraculously from my Spam folder and did turn up in a newly created Junk mail folder, which is in only one account. Will all the junk from all accounts now go into that folder? In Preferences--Anti-Spam there is a check box that says: __ Use the common junk folder Can I create a common folder and will spam be directed here if this is checked? (And what about the other options in this window?) I'm sorry if this all sounds very dumb and obvious. So thanks again for your help. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 filter failure Update
Hello all, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:06 AM, I wrote: PJ I installed the trial version of 3.0 over my 2.12 easily... now the PJ filters don't seem to be working. I've checked the sorting office (and PJ think I will come to like the new format very much) and all my old PJ filters are in place; just not working... Just wanted to say that after following the great advice I received, the filters are now working perfectly. Thanks again, Roelof, Miguel, 9Val. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.0 screenshot?
Hello, Is there a screenshot of TB! 3.0's new interface? It has been discussed a lot, and since installing 3.0 over 2.12 (and my alternate glyphs) did not change the look at all, I am interested to see what 3.0 looks like. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 3.0 screenshot?
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, 5:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MP Sunday, September 5, 2004, 9:27:47 PM, you wrote: PJ Is there a screenshot of TB! 3.0's new interface? MP http://bat-mail.de.vu/tools.html MP and choose Original GLYPHs Yes, it is an XP-style glyph set; curiosity satisfied. Thanks Mark. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Upgrading
Hello MAU and Mary and others who helped, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 5:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB Hello MAU! MB On Friday, September 03, 2004, 12:46 PM, you wrote: MB I don't know whether an install of v. 2.12.00 over v. 3.0 would MB work. M Yes, it will. MB Oh, what good news!! I hope Pat J. will see this from you. We owe you MB a beer *and* a coffee! Yes thank you, I did see it and it gives me the confidence to give 3.0 a try... after a backup (overdue anyway). Beer and coffee on the way. Peanuts and brownies too. :-) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v3.0 filter failure
Hello, I installed the trial version of 3.0 over my 2.12 easily... now the filters don't seem to be working. I've checked the sorting office (and think I will come to like the new format very much) and all my old filters are in place; just not working. Has anyone any experience with this, or other advice to offer? I'm not sure exactly what to do to correct this. And here I thought (at first glance this morning) that I actually received 12 personal emails! ...Just unfiltered spam. :-( Thanks in advance. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v3.0 filter failure
Hello Roelof, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RO On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:50:28 -0500GMT (4-9-2004, 17:50 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: PJ I installed the trial version of 3.0 over my 2.12 easily... now the PJ filters don't seem to be working. RO Is that as in all of the filters or some of the filters? RO Just check the conditions to see whether something might be converted RO badly. And spend some extra time on the filters you're suspecting from RO misbehavior. Sorry I wasn't more clear... as far as I can tell, so far it is only the TBUDL and Spam filters that are not functioning correctly. And, strangely, some TBUDL message are filtered into their folder, some are not. The condition for the TBUDL filter is: Message Source - match - [EMAIL PROTECTED] RO This same checking run could be used to adapt your filters to the RO possibilities that the NFS offers. For instance, I changed my tbudl RO filter from the condition: RO text: Reply-To: *.tbudl@ with regexp enabled RO to this: RO Header Field - Reply-To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is *without* regex enabled? I will try that, thanks. BTW, I don't see where I enable or disable regex. The Options tab has what looks like fewer options too-- or does the content depend on conditions and actions previously selected? The non-working spam filter is set up like this: Message source - match - ^X-Spampal: SPAM I'll try a few alternates and see if I can get it working again. Roelof, thank you so much for your quick response. I know a lot of it is just common sense (lacking here) but I was just a little hesitant about fiddling with the NFS settings when the filters are such an important part of my system. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v3.0 filter failure
Hello Miguel, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone any experience with this, or other advice to offer? I'm not sure exactly what to do to correct this. M Most of my filters were converted correctly and are working with no M problems. I had problems with a few that used Regex and, although being M apparently correct, they were not working. Are you using Regex in your M filters? If so, I would advise to try to change them to not use Regex. M The NFS has more options for setting up conditions without needing M Regex. I have no real understanding of regex so will happily disable it! As I mentioned to Roelof, it's not immediately apparent where the regex settings are, but hey, I've got a free afternoon. :-)) Thanks so much, Miguel. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spell check 3.0
I get the impression that the differences between v3.0 Home and Pro are that the Pro version has: SecureBat Language support Spellcheck preinstalled My install of 3.0 Home (over 2.12) has Spellcheck working just fine. I'm just wondering what the discrepancy is. Maybe a fresh install of 3.0 Home would not include Spellcheck? Enquiring minds want to know. :-) Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spell check 3.0
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:35:17 -0500 GMT (05/09/2004, 11:35 +0700 GMT), TF P.Johnson wrote: PJ My install of 3.0 Home (over 2.12) has Spellcheck working just fine. PJ I'm just wondering what the discrepancy is. Maybe a fresh install of PJ 3.0 Home would not include Spellcheck? TF I think they mean spellcheckers for languages other than English. Because TF they are contained in the intpack, which is included in the Pro TF version but has to be downloaded seperately if you use the Home TF version. So, have you tried the spellcheck for German or Spanish in TF the home version? ;-) Nein and no. I actually studied both in school but my skills in both are shameful; don't need Mother Spellcheck to tell me that. :-)) And yes, I see English is the only spellcheck option in the Home version. Thanks for letting me know! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Upgrading
Hi Mary and everyone, On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 12:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:18 PM, you wrote: BJ Is it best to do a fresh install of version 3.. then apply my BJ backup MB RITLabs strongly advises on its website to install right over the MB previous version. MB I've done this for every update I've made since v. 1.61, and the new MB install always went seamlessly. MB MB All the same, back-ups--to a different drive or to an external site MB are always a desirable safety net. I just haven't had to use mine so MB far, thank goodness. :) I'm probably not the only one confused about TB!v3.0 and whether or not to upgrade, but I think I would like to take it for a test drive... but forget (one of many senior moments) how to install a trial version while leaving the original intact. I've always installed upgrades over my current TB! version with no problems at all. If I do the same with 3.0 how do I revert back if necessary? I would prefer to do all this without installing different versions in different folders. Ritlabs seems to have disappointed a lot of users, who feel quite passionately about it. I'm sorry that Ritlabs has not so far been responsive, and don't know what I'll do down the road. Without a major change in the new version maybe it is time to move on from TB!. I think it was Mica who compared Ritlabs to an annoying relative-- we all have to make the judgement. ...Though I admit I have some family members I would happily toss out the window. :-) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: STEVEN, me and strange emails
Hi Marck, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP Dear Tom, MDP @3-Sep-2004, 11:35 -0500 (03-Sep 17:35 UK time) Tom Duda [TD] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: TD I subscribed to this list for one reason: I seem to have TD slipped into a Franz Kafka novel with The Bat!'s support team. LOL MDP Not really. The culprit is Mike Welli, who is using one of these MDP loathsome and useless-as-a-chocolate-teapot anti-spam MDP challenge/response services... snip Thanks for the very clear explanation. I've read the posts about this since I also received the mysterious message, and finally I get what it is about. :-) MDP Typical of a challenge/response service, two innocent parties are MDP inconvenienced - you and the TB Support Team. Plus every member of MDP this list because you felt compelled to raise the topic here where MDP it's nothing to do with any of us! Well, it did have to do with me too. Mystery solved now. Thanks again. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Birthdate-entries in Addressbook
On Friday, July 2, 2004, 11:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MB On Friday, July 02, 2004, 11:29 AM, you wrote: TN Is there an easy way to *quickly* insert a birthday into the AB? TN The calendar-like interface is a little clumsy to manually swith to TN e.g. 28.03.1965 etc. etc. MB Yes. Very slow. I hope someone knows how to do it faster. Help, MB anyone? I have found you can at least highlight and change the year in the dropdown box. Must still crank through the months on the calendar, but it is a little easier. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding text to subject line - extra dots not welcome
Hello, On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I used the following macro in my account--forward template: PJ %IF:'%OFromAddr'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- PJ %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- PJ %Subject=FWD: (From Bill Smith) %OSubj PJ %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]#%- PJ ...and this works, except that I made an error in the forwarding PJ address. It should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I add the period, PJ the message window comes up correctly but without any message PJ text!... And if I use the template with the incorrect address, then simply add the period to the outgoing address, the message text magically disappears. Is this a bug? More and more email address seem to be adding that extra dot... is there something in macro language that precludes an extra email address dot, and the macro working properly? Thanks in advance. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding text to subject line - NOT solved
Hi Gerard, On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G ON Tuesday, March 30, 2004, 11:29:16 PM, you wrote: PJ (Though messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] are not filtered into PJ the correct folder, for some reason. Very simple filter: just the PJ email address as the filter string (sender); the folder PJ specified. Doesn't budge though. Sigh.) G... GG If you have a problem with a filter go to the Filter list press Ctrl-C and G copy it in an e-mail with Ctrl-V G Then we can all have a look at this problem. Here's the copied filter: BeginFilter Name: From Bill Smith Active: 1 Source: \\patj\Inbox Target: \\tomjones\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: DelAddrItems: HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter I've deleted and redone the filter a couple of times too. It's currently at the bottom of a list of incoming filters, but I've moved it up with no difference. Any help greatly appreciated! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding text to subject line - solved
Robin, On Monday, March 29, 2004, 12:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RA On Tue 30 March 2004, 9:21:05 +1000, P.Johnson wrote: ... ...Not sure what the #%- signifies (in the first line of the template)? RA The # is a delimiter, everything between the first and second instances of RA # are what happens if the from address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] RA The %- is a line continuation marker that has the effect of preventing a RA newline appearing in the output of the template. Thanks for letting me know. This info opens up a whole new world of possibilities for macros, which have always been something of a mystery to me. :-) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding text to subject line - NOT solved
I used the following macro in my account--forward template: %IF:'%OFromAddr'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- %Subject=FWD: (From Bill Smith) %OSubj %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]#%- ...and this works, except that I made an error in the forwarding address. It should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I add the period, the message window comes up correctly but without any message text! Is there any work-around at all for this? The template does exactly what it should, beautifully, otherwise. (Though messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] are not filtered into the correct folder, for some reason. Very simple filter: just the email address as the filter string (sender); the folder specified. Doesn't budge though. Sigh.) Sorry to bother you all with what must seem a basic problem. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding text to subject line
Hello shinE! On Sunday, March 28, 2004, 12:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dh on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 13:00:24 -0600 P.Johnson wrote: Is it possible to add text to a Subject Line when forwarding the message, using a QT or filter? dh of course.. :) dh ... dh Because of that I would suggest that you extend your existing general dh forward template by checking for the recipient where you want this to dh be applied and do it then: dh %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- dh %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- dh %Subject=FWD: %OSubj (From Bill Smith)#%- dh %ModifyOnce(Subject) will ensure, that the Subject is only changed dh once by the QT (not again, when you edit the header fields, without dh having changed the body before). Brilliant-- and I think I can use this to work for me! Because it isn't a special recipient in the sense you mean I only used the modify subject part of your macro. I created a folder for sender's messages, then did a folder forward template. I believe there are pitfalls with folder templates; here's what happened this time: When I click Forward when in this folder, the subject line and to: fields are correct, but the message field is blank. %Cursor%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- %Subject=FWD: (From Bill Smith) %OSubj#%- This is a forwarded message. From: %OFromName %OFromAddr To: %OToList Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn Subject: %OSubj ===Original message text=== %Text End of original message text=== ...Any ideas? I'm intrigued by the %IF part of the macro. Must be a lot of possibilities there. Thanks very much! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding text to subject line
Hi Martin, On Sunday, March 28, 2004, 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW On 28 March 2004, 13:00 -0600 (20:00 local time) P.Johnson [PJ] in MW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ Is it possible to add text to a Subject Line when forwarding PJ the message, using a QT or filter? PJ... MW %SUBJECT=FWD from %FROMNAME: %OSUBJ%- MW I should have added that you can add this to your address book template MW for the recipient. I didn't explain it very well; anyway the recipient field won't work for me in this instance. So I made a folder template which isn't working. :-) The subject macro works, but I am not getting the text. I copied the template in my reply to shinE!, if you are interested. TB! makes us very lazy, I think. I now expect to do tasks that should reasonably take several key strokes, with no strokes at all. What a program! Thanks Martin. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Adding text to subject line - solved
On Monday, March 29, 2004, 5:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dh on Sun, 28. Mar 2004 at 13:00:24 -0600 P.Johnson wrote: Is it possible to add text to a Subject Line when forwarding the message, using a QT or filter? dh of course.. :) dh ... dh Because of that I would suggest that you extend your existing general dh forward template by checking for the recipient where you want this to dh be applied and do it then: dh %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- dh %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- dh %Subject=FWD: %OSubj (From Bill Smith)#%- dh %ModifyOnce(Subject) will ensure, that the Subject is only changed dh once by the QT (not again, when you edit the header fields, without dh having changed the body before). PJ... I created a folder for PJ sender's messages, then did a folder forward template. I PJ believe there are pitfalls with folder templates; here's what PJ happened this time: When I click Forward when in this folder, the PJ subject line and to: fields are correct, but the message field is PJ blank Could not get that folder template to work, so removed the new folder and template, and instead used the account properties-- forward. I used the %IF macro to specify the original sender, added the %TO and it now works like a charm: %IF:'%OFromAddr'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':#%- %ModifyOnce(Subject)%- %Subject=FWD: (From Bill Smith) %OSubj %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]#%- This is a forwarded message. From: %OFromName %OFromAddr To: %OToList Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn Subject: %OSubj ===Original message text=== %Text End of original message text=== ...Not sure what the #%- signifies (in the first line of the template)? Thank you again! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding text to subject line
Hello all, Is it possible to add text to a Subject Line when forwarding the message, using a QT or filter? I am looking for a fairly quick way to add From Bill Smith to the FWD:... subject line while keeping the original text intact. If there is a way to do it automatically (since it is always the same sender and recipient) that would be great. -- Thanks! Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: My registration
Hello, On Monday, March 22, 2004, 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U Monday, March 22, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not using hacked/cracked/modified TB U No, you are using Mutt 1.5.4 :-) I would *love to know what this thread is about. Just curious, enquiring minds and all that. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Selected quote in reply
Dan, On Thursday, February 12, 2004, 11:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DP Thursday, February 12, 2004, 4:18:07 PM, you wrote: PJ Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include PJ only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply?... DP Highlight the text you want and press 'F4' ;) Thanks Dan. :-)) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selected quote in reply
Hello all, Could someone please remind me of the key sequence to include only selected (highlighted) text in the quote of a reply? Sorry to be so dim yet again. (:-) -- From damp Texas Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Langa List WAS: Re[3]: PC Mag Review Of The Bat!
On Sunday, February 1, 2004, 11:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ Aside from Fred Langa's remarkable newsletter MJ (www.langa.com) which has saved MJ our butts so may times over the years at my work (and is easily worth the MJ $11 per YEAR subscription IMHO) I just wanted to point out that the Langa List is also available in a free version; the Plus edition (to which I just subscribed) is ad-free and has extra articles. I would also recommend it very highly (it has excellent info for all levels of expertise). -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcut
Hi Miguel, On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 11:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have forgotten how to configure a keyboard shortcut-- could someone please help with this? I would like if possible to combine the ALT + L command (which I use a lot) into one stroke. M Try Alt+F12 Thanks for the info. I had some trouble figuring out how to do it, but Dan Perez said on another topic to access the Shortcuts Editor while in a message editor. There under Utilities I found the format options and was able to change the shortcut to one keystroke instead of two. Seems a small thing but is very convenient for me. :-) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcut
Hello, I have forgotten how to configure a keyboard shortcut-- could someone please help with this? I would like if possible to combine the ALT + L command (which I use a lot) into one stroke. Thanks in advance. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 9:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M ... M http://www.rancho-k.com/MyBat2.png M ... Very nice, but where is my reply (as the P. Johnson in the screenshot...)? :-))) -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mail deleted from server
On Monday, January 19, 2004, 2:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ... I am having a PJ strange problem with some emails being deleted from the server before PJ I can download them. PJ ... PM Have you tried to set your account properties to leave mails on server PM for a couple of days instead of deleting them immediately? Thanks Peter, for the suggestion. I will change those settings; a good idea anyway. Meanwhile, after sending off a furious letter to my ISP I think the problem was my filters-- I made some basic mistakes trying to set up an archive file. [start OT rant] But Road Runner, along with many ISPs, deserve to hear from their subscribers since they are running very intrusive spam blockers, which arbitrarily delete messages without notifying you; many customers don't even know these spam blockers are in place. RR for example, decided to block all emails from yahoo.com accounts. You can contact them and whitelist accounts, but it can be hard to do if you don't even know the blocking is going on! [end of rant] -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail deleted from server
Forgive me if this is way off topic for this list, but I am having a strange problem with some emails being deleted from the server before I can download them. I am only aware of this because I see them in the SpamPal Bayesian filter reclassify window (just before they disappear forever). This happens with only a few messages as far as I can tell, but the reason mystifies me. They are marked spam by SpamPal, but I route all spam into a spam folder; I don't have them removed from the server. My ISP is blaming it on spam, virus and/or firewall programs, but none of these are have been set up to remove mail directly from the server. Could I have inadvertently specified something like this within TB? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, before I have to get on the phone with the wonderful Road Runner tech support. :-) Thanks in advance. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Viewing html ...again
Hi Allie, On Monday, December 15, 2003, 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Peter Meyns wrote: PM You are right. Happens the same way here with Opera 7.23 on PM Win98SE. I have never tried it before, as I'm usually content with PM TB!'s internal display. A I receive a couple newsletters in HTML format and tend to read them A with my browser since the pics are important to the reading of them. A They always load in the browser. My default browser is also Opera. A For your problems to be a TB! related, this would mean that TB! is A interfering with incoming message content. I doubt this is the case A and think it's more likely the HTML message that may be faulty. I may A be wrong but ... A Is this a common problem with eCard greetings or is it a problem with A HTML messages from multiple sources? This is common with HTML messages from multiple sources. For example, I received a home-made ecard where the sender altered the background, fonts etc. and inserted a family photo-- which did not open when I clicked on the browser to view. This morning I received an HTML message from my ISP, with the same result. I do receive the images; they just does not load and can be seen only by clicking the icon. As far as I remember, this has always been the case though did not bother me much since I don't tend to view in HTML anyway. I am using IE 6.0. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing html ...again
Lately I've been receiving Christmas e-cards and would like to view the html in one piece instead of the text in one tab, the images in another. I thought that clicking on the browser icon would work but this does not show images (just the placemarks). I'm pretty sure this has been discussed and apologize, but I haven't been successful in my list archive search at all. Thanks in advance, and happy holidays, everyone. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Could not connect to server
Roelof and Daniel, PJ Lately I've receive a Could not connect to server message when PJ checking for mail. My Internet connection works otherwise; and there PJ are messages waiting. R Try disabling your firewall. It looks like you've mistakenly configured R it incorrectly or it's configuration has gone corrupt. (Particularly a R problem with ZoneAlarm) D Also, it can be possible that the e-mail server gets taken off-line D for maintenance from time to time, or it crashed, or got disconnected D from the internet for some other reasons. I get the same message when D the server, where the mailserver is running, is being rebooted. Thanks for your replies... both could be a possibility (especially as I do have ZA as my firewall). What a great group! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Could not connect to server
Lately I've receive a Could not connect to server message when checking for mail. My Internet connection works otherwise; and there are messages waiting. Any ideas on what could be causing this problem? Thank you in advance. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter question
Hello, Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a message (when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but will do so when asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)? I find my incoming filters failing me more and more lately... just not working in many cases. Could the adding of a new rule upset the system somehow (for example, by changing the order of the rules)? In the Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have the Continue processing with other filters box checked? One of my accounts is used for outgoing messages only, but shares an incoming account. For some reason all the incoming mail is duplicated into that account inbox, even though I have rules set up to allow only specific incoming messages. When I add a new rule I just enter the information step by step and double-check it all, but am not having a lot of success. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01.3 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter question
Marck, Is there any reason why TB! would not automatically filter a message (when Manual only is not ticked in the filter rule) but will do so when asked to Re-filter Messages (Folderright click)? M Sometimes rules used to get corrupted. I would often have to M re-create a rule from scratch to get it to work again. No amount of M tweaking would put it right. I didn't realize this happened. Too bad this is the case, but it's important to know. In the Sorting Office under the Options tab, should I always have the Continue processing with other filters box checked? M Certainly not. It's very much a special case option. Normally a M rule has moved a message and it's no longer in the Inbox to process M any further with other filters. Thanks for clarifying that too. M Where? In Selective download filters? I don't really understand M how you have done that. What I meant to say is that many of my messages come through one of the accounts (Account A) and are filtered through to folders in other accounts. Fine. These messages coming through Account A are also duplicated to another account inbox (Account X). Account X shares the same pop account with Account A, which I guess is why this occurs. Account X uses different From and Reply To addresses for a separate business. Now I've set up a filter that trashes all the dupes except those addressed to the business. Is this the most efficient way to do this? Am I clear as mud? M It's hard to tell what you are trying to achieve. Just trying to navigate the land of the filters successfully, Marck. :-) There seems to be something about it I just can't grasp easily. Sorry to be so slow. These early filter difficulties are similar to ones I had in a different mail program (which also promised an excellent filter system) which was one of the reasons I abandoned it. Thanks, -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01.3 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Link click causes freeze
When I double=click on a link in a message TB! has started freezing up-- I get an hourglass in place of my cursor, then the title bar of TB window says Not Responding. I have to close the program to continue. This is new-- just started today. Can anyone help-- what could be causing this? TIA. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01.3 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undo or retrieving deletes
Thank you all for your advice on how to retrieve a deleted message. That one has disappeared (where does it go when deleted from Trash?) but it certainly helps to know the Control-Z command and how to browse the trash folder. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
Bob, On Saturday, October 18, 2003, 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Pat, I also noticed that your signature doesn't seem to be B stripping on reply, you might be missing the space after the -- , B unless this is another Version 2 bug. Thanks for the heads-up-- don't know what happened. Hopefully it's working now... ? -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 10/21/2003 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undo or retrieving deletes
Hi all, I just wrote a long reply and then deleted the whole thing accidentally when trying to trim the earlier parts. To my dismay there is no undo command -- an almost-necessity for people like me. Is there a way to undo I may not have found, or a way to retrieve the trashed message?? Failing that, can you direct me to some kind of auto-save function? Sigh. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error When using Scheduler (Version 2.01)
Bob, On Thursday, October 16, 2003, 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Whenever I select the scheduler either with ALT F11 or Tools B - Scheduler I get a popup warning box The Bat! - Failed to set B calendar selected range. After I click on OK the scheduler B starts, but the first time I click on each tab in it I receive the B same error message. I was just about to report the same error message. Very annoying. Does your scheduler work ok otherwise? -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 10/17/2003 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Adding a memo to message
How do I write a memo for a received message? (This was mentioned in the list earlier as an alternative to editing the message subject.) I've added the memo column but not sure what to do next. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Adding a memo to message
Miguel, P How do I write a memo for a received message? M Select View/Memo Auto-View or hit Shift+Ctrl+I, then write memo and M *save* it. Gracias Miguel! I couldn't see for looking. -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/22/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing the source
I just changed my OS and have The Bat happily up and running again after a few headaches), but now the source info shows in the message pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can someone please direct me? Thanks in advance! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows 98se-- no, make that XP 9/12/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Viewing the source
Hello Martin and Matt, On Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M Saturday, September 13, 2003, 12:18:12 AM, you wrote: PJ the source info shows in the message PJ pane. I can't seem to find where in the options to change this. Can PJ someone please direct me? M I presume you mean the mail headers? If so, try the View menu and M un-check RFC-822 headers. Yes I guess I did mean the mail headers-- and thank you, unchecking in the View menu or toggling shift+ctl+k eliminates them. M BTW, you need a space after the --; i.e. -- to display signatures M correctly. I don't know why the sig is different now. I'll try and change it! Thank you for the heads up. Best wishes, -- Pat A Canadian in Houston Using TB v2.00.6 on Windows XP 9/12/2003 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Caught between a rock and 2.0
I'm confused now about upgrades and TB versions-- just registered v1.62 on August 27. I was initially unaware they were asking another 50% for upgrade on Sept 1; by the time I caught on, my trial period was over and I had to register to access my mail. Anyway like an idiot I just downloaded version 2.0, somehow thinking I could have a look without disrupting my current version. No. Well I tried to enter my 5-day old registration code. Did not compute. So, can I go back to my previously registered 1.62 now that 2.0 has installed overtop? Will I have to pay after 30 days to access my mail again? I'm sorry but can't help resenting the cost of an upgrade after such a short time. What are my options...? Poor me: just want a decent, reliable, elegant mail program like The Bat without too much hassle or feeling like I've been had. (BTW I'm also torn between frustration with TB and admiration that they actually released 2.0 on schedule. :-)) Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated. -- Pat A Frustrated Canadian in Houston 9/1/03 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62rearly
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Christopher. On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 4:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C I sent an email to Ritlabs last night about a free upgrade, pointing C out that I registered on 27 Aug. C This afternoon, I called cifnet, and they told me to fill out a form C on their website explaining my situation. C 2 minutes after I submitted the form, my 2.0 registration key arrived C at my inbox. Not sure which action of mine prompted the key, but it's C done. Could you please direct me to the web page with the form? I also registered on Aug 27. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston 9/2/03 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters, Spam and Edits
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re: editing an inbox message: PJ If there is now a way to do so I would be thrilled to learn how! R Well, actually it is possible, but not solely with TB: R Export the message R Edit the subject with Notepad or another text editor. R Import the message back into TB. R Now you can delete the original message. R One disadvantage of this method is the the received time/date gets R changed into the time you've imported it. Roelof, Can you tell me exactly how I would export and import back? I see an export option under Tools but neither the msg or eml formats seem to be editable. I'm sure it's obvious but I can't figure it out. Thanks! -- Pat A Canadian in Houston 8/28/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
