Re: setting up preferences for gmail; missing e-mail
Hello achdut, Friday, June 17, 2005, 7:28:08 PM, you wrote: a For some reason, the Connection Center window hangs open and a won't download a test message that was sent and is sitting on the a gmail server. Gmail sucks... I love the search engine but the email service I rate as one of the worse of all time. You won't get the test message if you send it from your own gmail account. You'll need to test from another account... a Is this a function of my not properly setting up the account on The a Bat, or could it also be a function of my firewall (Outpost Agnitum). a G-mail requires two ports that are different from the usual ones. Do a I need to open them in my firewall first? If you use g-mail AND have a Outpost, I would be particularly interested in hearing from you. You can always try but don't sweat it. The fault of you not getting email from your own account IF you're sending mail from the same exact account is Googles feature and not a bug. a Also, because I receive list mail both at home and at the office, I a have just discovered that I have not been receiving a large number of a postings to the list at home, where I use The Bat. Does anyone have a any ideas as to why this is happening? This seems to happen with a greater frequency with postings from certain sources. However, not a ALL of the mail from any one source is appears to be missing. I am a hoping that this is a function of the ISP's mail server and not of my a pc or software. However, until I can get the g-mail account to work a properly for downloading e-mail to my pc, I can't know for sure. You're stuck. Until Google offers the option of completely disabling there proprietary spam filters you're virtually hopeless... Go check your spam folder for those messages... a PS. Because I don't receive all list mail at home, it would be much a appreciated if replies could ALSO be copied to my home e-mail address, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Honestly, go with hotpop. www.hotpop.com. They might put a tag line in your messages and they might not. When I first signed up I had a few tag lines but then, they disappeared. Another really nice online service to check out which is free and which stated will be offering pop service in the future is www.inbox.com. This clearly knocks Gmail out the box and when it reaches pop status, Google is going to lose a lot of people... Anyhow, leave Gmail alone... 2GB sounds good if you love headaches. It's also good if you're prepared to change the standard email procedure into something you'll only ever find in Gmail... I rate Gmail 1/5. -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello tbudl, The aim is simple. How do I thread by TO: Address and NOT TO: Name then Address? If this is impossible then: How do I re-filter all messages in my database so to strip the name from the recipient field and only leave behind the Address? I am trying to filter against the TO: address BUT the bat will only filter against the name and address BUT! the name takes precedence over the Address. How can I either reverse this behavior OR strip all recipient names in my database? I love it when the bat does what I need... I feel helpless when it doesn't... Any advice? Thanks! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Please, need help threading correctly...
Hello, The option of threading by TO: Address seems so far a viable option. I really appreciate everyone hooting along in agreement. I assume this is an option many won't vote against. How then do I put in a feature request and be able to track it? Also, if worse did come to worse and the developers for some reason or another refused to add such an option, is there a secret hack or any third party utilities that will strip all recipient names from messages in my database? Thanks to everyone who had something good to say! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Anyway to *hack* threads view from To: NAME To: Address?
Hello, Is it possible to sort threads by TO: ADDRESS and NOT TO: NAME? Anyway to hack such a feature? Any work-around just in case? -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v3.5.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello, my email has changed, I can no longer make post to the list
Hello tbudl-owner, My email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately now, it is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you put me back on the list? Thank you! -- Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What phrase or code does all bounces have in common?
Hello tbudl, I plan on sending out auto-replies to e-mail which I consider bad. Incase after an auto-reply is sent out and the message is meant to bounce, I do not wish to send an auto-reply to the bounced mail. I filter bad mail through e-mail address only. So the bad email sends me a message, I send an auto-reply, bad-email bounces, I send another auto-reply, bounce, reply, bounce, reply, etc... I do not wish to go into a mean loop and worse case scenario be labeled a spammer. What I need to do is apply a filter before all others which check to see if the message is being bounced back. If the message is a bounce I would like to filter it to a bounce folder so not to kill good bounces. What do all bounces have in common? I wish to filter against the one single ID all bounces have in common or at least should have in common without being way too general about it. I do not wish to filter mail which carries one single word. It has to be a term, a phrase, or something which should not be found in any regular email (another reason why I should filter to a folder). So what is the one thing (preferably phrase) all bounces have in common? -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: What phrase or code does all bounces have in common?
Hello Roelof, VBG What do all bounces have in common? I wish to filter against the VBG one single ID all bounces have in common or at least should have VBG in common without being way too general about it. RO There's no phrase all bounces have in common. What all proper bounces RO do have in common is an empty return path address. snip RO Since you're using your own domain, it could be useful to use your own RO bounce address in your bounces, etc. Make them have [EMAIL PROTECTED] RO as from and return path address and delete all mail addressed to that RO address without mercy. ;-) Saves you from endless loops. snip Such a perfect idea, it is so simple and so sweet. Thank you Roelof :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
horrible and retarded filtering problem...
Hello tbudl, I have given away an address which has obviously fallen into the wrong hands. Now I am getting spam because of this address. The craziest thing which is killing me, is my address never makes it to the to, cc or bcc field. So I can never pinpoint trying to kill it by filtering against this special address. I am trying to filter against this single address by applying several different filters... nothing works! Something is wrong... I really don't understand the meaning of the anywhere filter yes as what does anywhere mean? anywhere outside the bat only? Cause anywhere never works for me... I even pasted the entire header section as this has gotten me so perplexed and upset. Forgive me but when something should be so simple, yet made so impossible to deal with, I can't help it but to feel overwhelmed and stupid... The address I need to filter against is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot filter against anything else like keywords, strings, from, Original-recipient, etc... I need to only kill this mail simply because of one single email address. I need to kill it if it has [EMAIL PROTECTED] anywhere in it. The headers clearly have the address but no filter can ever find it... Is this the new super and stupid spam trick? I mean I am thinking the bat is so genious I should just say anywhere or kludges and this address should get caught... No, so sad... Can someone look these headers over and give me the faintest idea what I am dealing with here? More at the bottom of the headers incase you'd like to keep reading :| === Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ms-mta-01 (ms-mta-01-smtp [10.10.4.5]) by ms-mss-02.tampabay.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from flmx04.mgw.rr.com (flmx03.mgw.rr.com [65.32.1.49]) by ms-mta-01.tampabay.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from m1.dnsix.com (m1.dnsix.com [63.251.171.165]) by flmx04.mgw.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAD4Agbb015240 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [24.226.147.24] (helo=courrier.cscoeur.ca) by m1.dnsix.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AK8oS-0001dN-3P for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:10:32 -0800 Received: from smtp0105.mail.yahoo.com ([200.95.87.18]) by courrier.cscoeur.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:11:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:10:21 + (GMT) From: URGENT! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: $2,700 ! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Original-recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2003 04:11:34.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[39AA72D0:01C3A99C] === I am already filtering to and cc against an address book group. This is working great but some are getting passed and they all have this in common so to say... The main dead address is in the headers but never in the to, cc or bcc field... I am confused and dead tired... Some one please help! Thank you! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: horrible and retarded filtering problem...
Hello Simon, VBG The address I need to filter against is [EMAIL PROTECTED] S As well as [EMAIL PROTECTED], choose the Alternatives tab, add a new S set, and add [EMAIL PROTECTED]; complete with semi-colon. Set to S filter anywhere. I just tried it and it works fine :-) Long time no combo Simon :) This worked but I was highly against it as the filtering window is non resizable, therefore always one more filter makes it larger and harder to manage. I think I found a bug but first I'll tell you what I did. I completely stopped filtering against an address book for bad addresses. Instead I put all bad addresses in one single line seperated by the pipe character presence anywhere yes. This works beautifully and reduced my spam filters by several. The bug I think I found was putting anything in the filter strings or alternative box and trying to filter against an address book at the same time. i.e. the filter by itself [EMAIL PROTECTED] presence anywhere yes worked by itself but also adding an address book to filter against too failed. I think its a bug as your idea works standalone but never with filtering against an address book in the same filter. I got it solved, thanks for the idea, I needed some sleep and another shot at the drawing board. Its all fixed now, :woot:!. Thanks Simon! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Some email programs' [Reply] don't address the Reply-To: in themessage being read
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Daniel, Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 10:04:37 AM, you wrote: DG I send out a once a week email newsletter that asks for a yes or no DG response about attending this week's meeting of an organization. The DG reply is to be sent to three addresses, so the newsletter's Reply-To: DG includes the three addresses. snip DG Then I tested the message by sending it to our members. I found that DG not all members could hit [Reply] and address the three members in my DG message's Reply-To: . For example, AOL members address only me (the DG sender) when they hit [Reply]. I do the same thing but never ran across the problem because I take care of it differently... I own several domains which I can designate one email address to have as many owners as I wish... When I put one my domain addresses in the reply to that has several owners whenever someone replies to the message and emails anything to that single address all owners get the message... Maybe its not the answer you we're looking for but its quick and easy and is just a little more professional than exposing everyones email address in the reply to field. You can get a domain for as low as 7 bucks at http://godaddy.com and you can get all the domain tools you need for free at http://mydomain.com Those two tools put together form a hell of an internet presence on the web... Just my 2 cents... Good luck - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPi68hF3LB35+TCg0EQLTJACeJOzkWTssxNVYTOtdZVflq2ErPcEAoJYg Lz/lERpGxRBBq5U2OEBiHtaF =ctLw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: NOT running slow anymore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Carsten, Well, folks, the problem seems to be resolved. CT Well done :-) With that said, I still require a personal firewall. CT No. My travels into the public internet have shown enough scans and attempted attacks to make it necessary when I'm not home. Absolutely true... You can try Kerio Personal and get it http://www.kerio.com CT Who attacks your PC and how? I can easily attack your pc starting at this very moment... CT What do you expect from your personal firewall? Protection from stupidity, trojans, viruses, scans, enhanced privacy, etc... CT How could a personal firewall help? Remove the door to your house tonight and never put it back, then lie a fully loaded shotgun and all of your valuables at the entrance with a note attached To whom this may concern, please shoot me, or just take the money and the shotgun and go, I DON'T CARE!. You know you're personal preference about your own security is entirely an opinion and nothing more... You shouldn't influence any body's decision on security with ignorance... I know you knew that was coming too... - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPirFWF3LB35+TCg0EQK/rQCfQD5PYXRFfh5HxuVac2D7q5m5AuYAnRrS zqPdbyeZcYOVBR0GVQNvBuNi =goDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I want to clarify I few things here
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Geoff, Saturday, January 18, 2003, 6:50:49 AM, you wrote: GL On 18 January 2003, 10:12, Robert Silver wrote: Also it makes a product look hoky when graphics com up as square [X] GL ~~~ GL Strange enough, those [X]'s give me a warm, fuzzy feeling because I GL know that another spammer cannot use that potential web bug to verify GL my e-mail address and I know that some inconsiderate explicative GL hasn't succeeded in causing me additional costs by getting my router GL to re-dial to collect their off-page (usually) garbage. The Xs give me a fuzzy feeling too but doesn't necessarily mean X out everything... I should be able to allow viewing HTML in its entirety or be able to choose who can send me HTML formatted mail at least... To me everyone, their mother and pet gold fish can argue all they want but I would love to see more HTML support in the near future. A built in RTF editor so I can at least bold some headings and make italic others I feel need to be emphasized. Everyone might argue that e-mail is supposed to do this and not do that is like saying a car with no heater in the dead of winter on a 24hr trip is not really necessary because the cars only purpose is to get you from a to z (and it is!). But you would probably drop dead of the freeze *if* such a convenience didn't exist... I don't hear much argument about that... Another thing is why when someone says wheres the news reader the bat isn't or shouldn't be a news reader? I suare from the bottom of my heart I hate with a passion dictatorship... If the people want it and theres enough motion why argue? I would love to see news group support with the bat... It can completely remove Mozilla from my system if it did it could probably completely remove outlook from others... I bet my life if an RTF editor was introduced to The Bat! you might say I'll never use it (yeah, right) but you will. You have too... plain text is robotic and you'll use the bold and italic command sooner or later... Its almost guaranteed... I can almost bet my life if a news group reader was introduced you would use it too. Come'on think about that one, argue if you wish too... You're going to turn off the heat on purpose because you know its a convenience and that its not really necessary? I love The Bat! and theres no argument about its current status and my point to this whole thread and *every* community member is if you see something *you don't* like, no matter how much you don't like it leave it be... Polls and surveys work with disagreement but you're trying to persuade an inevitable argument... I can almost bet my life that if HTML, RTF and a news group reader was introduced this bat list would be flooded with new members and the RitLabs team would have more money to develop The Bat! further and faster than before which should be a good thing right? Most people expect HTML and to compose in RTF and a lot of people would really enjoy a news reader... I say the old saying goes well... Carry a gun and not need it, than need it and not have it... I currently support 100% the idea of more enabled HTML, RTF, and news reading capabilities and word is its coming whether you like it or not... My question is once its here will you stop upgrading? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPilKPF3LB35+TCg0EQKPYQCeNQze0Uy80lq+jbWl3GTKqoZaLJIAoI8y sYNdzU9rwYMt2AGR7FvEBmVN =/LaD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I want to clarify I few things here
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Greg, In a word, if these unnecessary 'features' are not made optional - YES! And I'm not alone in this. RitLabs will never kill their already good share of the market by removing options from the user... That would be a business flaw that could damage productivity and user loyalty... Everyone against HTML support have a few things in common but what I do not see in common is any of the positive HTML can achieve even in an email... To me text is good for one thing and I call it information straight... The reader starts at the top and works his way to the bottom meanwhile I know that with good HTML design you can actually stimulate a readers attention and responsiveness... One thing that kills me is this, is there anyone here whose against HTML mail and is also against doing business by email? I mean in other words if an HTML formatted email reaches your inbox does a filter or any other mean delete it before you see it? My point is The Bat may be great against showing web images inline but it can never stop an email composed elsewhere from reaching you in HTML... You can probably stop it using other means but overall in the end you still deal with it regardless of how much you might cry, wine, pant and pout about it. I believe in the freedom of choice. Any user any where in the world can send me any type of mail they wish as long as the message itself gets across... I have no qualms with it. I have respect for the Internet where technology will move ahead without asking you, prompting you or warning you and HTML no matter what the pessimist might think about it, has made its way into the email market without warning you. You can cry, wine, pant and pout but you're in no way going to stop the movement... I am currently preparing to run a business of my own and I only see the ability to create, manage and edit HTML inline as a plus. I have no arguments about future support for anything that does not damage what it is I respect today. Choice I am sure will come and it is the choice I will respect more than no choice but to edit in text and text alone. That's my opinion and 2 cents about HTML... About security, web bugs, spam viruses, etc... I fear it in the least... RTF editing and news group support I definitely encourage. Give me freedom of choice or give me death and if I die by the hands of death those hands most likely belong to a text only activist... Have a great day everyone and even if HTML is never supported inline The Bat! is still a very awesome client :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPipZPl3LB35+TCg0EQJZzgCgpGtmjPXkSVLKcm3pzm7tqlAhivQAnR9r ngdV1b5oO2ayybATc+PETTXQ =/hTe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to run a mailing list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I've come across a fantastic walk through here http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml but it seems to be more geared towards TB v1.54b10. I am sure it is good enough but before I go ahead with starting to learn how to run my own mailing list is their a newer version tutorial out for 1.62 or for a newer version than v1.54b10.? I only ask because I am sure a lot of new functions have probably been thrown into TB since then and I would like to stay as up to date as possible. Thank you - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPiPCa13LB35+TCg0EQLfZgCfa9pKl8azKYAaZWTRdTs9B5kiMPkAnROv W92iXMJK2+Tbavoa8lgNE7yD =0/f7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two issue for convert from Eudora
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roelof, %FROM=%FROMNAME %OTOADDRHello %OFromFName, JA What happens if you are in the CC field? Wouldn't that macro JA then break? Or technically not break, but put in the wrong JA values? RO Yep. It would place the original first recipient in the From-header. RO Also when you're in the To-header, but not as first addressee, the RO macro won't produce the wanted results. I am not that sharp with macros and personally I do not accept mail that is not explicitly addressed to me. Mail which does not have me and me alone in the to: field gets put into a suspect folder. I am aware of replying to messages within that folder. The above macro at least works for me 99% of the time :) The macro is better than none because otherwise without one it would be tedious to change the from address all the time ;) I am though of course open to a macro which is better at figuring out, bcc and cc if possible :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request my PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPiCUFF3LB35+TCg0EQJA1gCgsMsr0MgZ0NqC4HTeaFVdCr5UiTMAoIvs Uw9XcM3bmSN2AQQ7MH8Uug4P =pTpA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Free choice of browser?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mark, MP Found in the help file: MP When I receive HTML mail, the pictures don't show. The Bat! does not download images that are not sent with the message. It is widely considered that this is a good thing. The downloading of images should be the job of a browser and it can become a security problem when that functionality is given to an off-line email reader. The work-around if you really want to see these images is to double-click on the HTML attachment to view it in your favourite web browser. MP When I do that, the HTML attachment is being viewed in IE, although this is MP not my standard-browser. It might not be your standard but is it your default? I use a browser similar to yours (MyIE) and it has an option to make it your default browser. Upon selecting the option The Bat! automatically opens all of my HTML attachments in MyIE. MP I mainly use Crazy Browser (which uses the MP IE-engine) (and Opera) and when I click URL's, it's always Crazy Browser that's being launched. MP Except in The Bat!. I don't find any setting within The Bat where this can be adjusted. MP Any Idea? Good luck, I had a problem like that with Mozillas Newsgroup reader but that's another story :) (BTW, I fixed it :)) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request my PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPiC+7l3LB35+TCg0EQJjCQCfSd6znVhwcUasuMNc4kZ3nNjQHsQAmQEl +m3bW19OsVlAekvzfySw5jLw =g1CW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to configure BAT with Yahoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Gerard, E Too bad they are no longer accepting new accounts, otherwise E MyRealBox would be a nice free e-mail service with POP3 support. One POP3 provider which I really have respect for is http://www.hotpop.com If you get an account they say they'll send you ads but never sent me an ad when I was with them and they also say their tagline your mail but they never did. They offer a generous 10 mB to get started for free and if I need a free account I would fall back on Hotpop :) MHO :) E After clicking on Sign Up Now! I get: E Thank you for your interest in an account on MyRealbox.com. E Regretfully, we are not accepting applications for new accounts at E this time. I have a MyRealbox account but didn't like it... I really do not know why... Infact I still have one but don't use it... They probably cancelled it by now... :( G Hi Eddy, GSorry, I did not know that. I guess it has become to popular. GIt is actually a test site for email software so they might not be Ginterested in continued growth. All these email services when you think about it offer you two things for the hype... their name and size caps... Hotpop offers 10 MB and they have a bunch of different names to choose from... I personally like Phreaker.net and have an account :) Check it out if you're looking for a stable POP3 provider ;) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQB1AwUAPh6LU6WCvVTOySw1AQGRcAL+MAIck57EEOq2ichHeaG+eaJJp3dquWe+ hANqXZBgpNak0wabSaKXRq2k+4E5QiHY0u08/8IARx3SgX/2mbyl8VtMSyWy5x8z zEkuO3SAva2ID0MbmCp1tjVTowqNMtO4 =h4lm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Two issue for convert from Eudora
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In Eudora, when I wanted to reply to a message, regardless at which address I received it, there is a drop-down list of accounts from which I select the outgoing address. Is there some way to do this in The Bat! or There are two ways to do this... JA I'll add another ;) JA In the compose window, hit View, and put a tick in the From option. JA You now have a drop down list for the From box, containing all your JA accounts. The above is good when you wish to start composing a brand new message. If you would like your from address to automatically change to the value the message was sent to, try putting the below macro right at the top of your reply template. %FROM=%FROMNAME %OTOADDRHello %OFromFName, Its a beautiful macro :) If someone sends mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you hit reply your from address will automatically become [EMAIL PROTECTED] so watch out when you reply with it. Have a great day :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request my PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPh/It4tTg85tNTghEQKGFgCfajNYYNQPE+DyK2tBPIECVEtbGFsAoIuU 3MMq11+p70kRrnRFQpdRggOj =fOFu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' Parenting
Hello Maurice, You should be pretty safe simply deleting it or better yet wiping it clean from your system. Do not execute or open the file. If any of your other *important files* are infected try to clean them with your AV but if nothing else is infected and the infected file is not at all important you should be safe simply deleting it (better yet wiping it). If you have PGP on your system it has a wipe feature. MM Grisoft's free anti-virus program told me today that MM my computer was infected with VBS/NAPTIME.A@MM. MM I promptly ran my anti-virus program, (System Suite 4 MM which used to be called Fix-it Utilities) and chose MM the the so-called deep scan: it found nothing. I MM then downloaded the latest Grisoft anti-virus update MM to disinfect my system. The guilty file apparently is MM 'jenniferp[1].htm' MM I was told We recommend you select the 'Move to Virus MM Vault', which I did, but the computer then hung. I MM have since repeated the AVG virus scan; the same MM troublesome file is flagged, but each time I click on MM 'Move to Virus Vault' the computer hangs. MM In an attempt to have computer literate 'kids', the MM three of them, have always been allowed access to the MM machine, whenever it's free. My wife is the fifth user MM (I'm the only one using The Bat). Would appreciate any MM suggestions from responsible parents - whatever that MM is - on the list. -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, Sometimes thread view works fine but other times it works in reverse... I mean upon opening the tbudl folder all threads are collapsed and when I click on a new subject I realize I clicked on a response. Being I have a filter that sorts read messages for my tbudl folder the second that reply loses focus, its gone. The actual thread starter is buried within the thread and I have to work my way up (Open the thread, scroll to the bottom, start there). This is beginning to happen to me most of the time I open my tbudl folder to read messages. -- I also noticed (thanks to my Mozilla e-mail client) that my signatures get broken up... What I mean is the dash, dash, space (-- ) gets converted to a (- -- ) and it then allows for my entire signature to be caught up in a reply. Is this a bug? Is there a fix? Is there a work around? Happy 2003, Day 2! :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhQ4cl3LB35+TCg0EQKzjQCcDOveK8vZ+E7hfRoEvYiIwKij57kAoN9x dd47rAiqq+n2QKL/tugrRKwP =/NaO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, AM - From some testing I did some time ago, I noted that if you sign with AM the PGP or GnuPG plugins, -- is converted to - --. The altered AM delimiter is therefore not recognised by TB!. However, if you sign AM with PGP Tray or GPG Shell/WinPT, -- is converted to - -- . The AM space after the double dash is preserved and TB! will recognise that AM delimiter, even with the added dash-space. AM You can try replying to my message here without using just %quotes AM in your template and my signature should be cut out. It is, and so is mines but other clients which usually understand the -- as to be the cut off point don't. I am also signing my messages direct from the tray. Is there a work around? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhS1RV3LB35+TCg0EQLiEwCghYKQKUeg+T95/8H9FQrXy/4B4I0An3GS vkvjXdfzLfEAlx8DvfxchbhV =lNe9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Thursday, January 2, 2003, 5:29:15 PM, you wrote: AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], AM Mary Bull [MB] wrote:' MB Please see now for me if my 'cut' line works, with only one MB Enter (line space) below it. I am a true doubting Thomas. :) AM Very strangely it wasn't cut. AM I can't say why either since I've checked many signatures which all AM have been cut. These sigs included ones with the text just under the AM delimiter as mine and that of most other members, sigs with only AM one line space below the delimiter (Thomas Fernandez's sigs) and AM sigs with two empty lines below the delimiter. AM Your delimiter also has the space after the dashes. I don't know AM why it doesn't cut. It cuts perfectly ok with the bat but I also use Mozillas news client to work with some newsgroups. As I forwarded something from TB into Mozilla, I noticed Mozilla doesn't recognize - -- as a delimiter. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhTAj13LB35+TCg0EQLIbQCeLzyxPRd/K5nz1MwJ6BElfhM4eccAoLHE QJ+lIS/dLWPKdzEtTfJvFstY =ASlt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ticker shortcoming?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I've seen some people talk about that they can't live without the ticker and I just hid it away as one of the first options I came across. Today however, I sparked with I need the ticker too so I enabled it. I tried docking it at the top and bottom of my screen but it interferes with my open windows. If I have it at the top I cant get to a full screens minimize, maximize and close buttons and if its docked at the bottom it usually interferes with my windows status bars, etc... Is that how it is supposed to work and if the answer is yes is their a registry tweak that can suppress any window from going beneath it, yet still show on my desktop? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhTe3V3LB35+TCg0EQJNXQCgrrXNRPsuO2GjIAxlJpsLi1lAeBQAn05y EcM3MCVmdIgvK26or2zxhVPG =YFth -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ticker shortcoming?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Anthony, If I have it at the top I cant get to a full screens minimize, maximize and close buttons and if its docked at the bottom it usually interferes with my windows status bars, etc... AXC You can adjust the length of the ticker with mouse. Move the mouse AXC towards the left or right edge of the ticker till the mouse turn into AXC a double arrow, and drag the mouse to adjust the length. Thanks, I didn't know that :) I am really after docking it without interference, is it possible? Thanks Anthony because if the answer is no I guess I am left with no option but to resize it :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhTh913LB35+TCg0EQLCGQCg9g2hQvoC7Utq2sQm9iQWN1eVi44AoKfU yytP5cYOZ4cbYDpnziHsiXjX =dSzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ticker shortcoming?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, I tried docking it at the top and bottom of my screen but it interferes with my open windows. MDP I don't dock the ticker at all. I leave it unzoomed, shortened to MDP the smallest possible size and then dragged off beyond the left edge MDP of the screen about 3cm above the Start button with about 1cm of the MDP thing left showing. MDP Why? MDP 1) I have turned off old flappy. I got tired of unread Spam in my MDPAnti-Spam account triggering the wings and I let the minimal MDPticker serve as my You have mail notification. This is what made me turn on the ticker. It wasn't spam exactly but I get lower than normal priority mail and I thought I would like to keep an eye on it... 1 new shortcoming, there isn't a way to handle mail through the ticker but to have to go through the client. Maybe not a shortcoming but a definite feature request along with window docking side by side. MDP 2) I have access to one of the real gems of the TB system - the MDPBrowse Ticker Messages virtual folder. I didn't know about this virtual folder but looked it up in the bat... It is a pretty cool feature with a time saving benefit attached... Thanks :) MDP 3) Using System wide hotkeys in conjunction with PowerPro and MDPStroke-it I've used power pro, never tried stroke it but am curious as to what exactly is system wide hotkeys? I ask because all keyboard shortcuts I make in my system are only active if applied to a shortcut on either my desktop or start menu. Thanks for your answer Marck, I am still on the tutorial you suggested I look over and that macro tool is just really cool. Thanks for all the input :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhTqc13LB35+TCg0EQKojgCgwlmzVWbkQaipfuUKz0/k+87PSkUAniWF jgtx1dA1EEhInnTeLfD2nwFz =EaqF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Ticker shortcoming?
Hello Marck, I've used power pro, never tried stroke it but am curious as to what exactly is system wide hotkeys? MDP These are part of TB and in Options | Define system hot keys. I MDP think I need say no more ;-). As for Strokeit, see MDP http://www.tcbmi.com/strokeit/ Damn, goes to show how you use something everyday and everyday you learn something new about it... It was right under my nose and I ain't see it... :) Thanks for today I learn about the mail ticker folder and system wide hotkeys... haha... I love you guys :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2 Questions: Thread Views PGP messing with -- signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, The space after the double dash is preserved and TB! will recognise that delimiter, even with the added dash-space. TF But then, if TB's plug-in does not preserve the last space, TB's reply TF function should recognise excaped delimiter as created by its twin on TF the sender's machine. ;-) TF How do other programs handle - -- and - --? That is my point exactly... Most mail programs recognize -- as the cut off point but when you throw in - -- Mozilla at least just doesn't understand :( It's ok, I use the bat! - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhT3yV3LB35+TCg0EQLJ7ACgv0O2xZiSe5ACqncqEKqdhsBdPEwAnihJ P28WymLBMz9O1LGRFAafVOnK =akax -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Any way to make sure a sent mails format doesn't change?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I've worked on creating a signature and formatting to an e-mail that heavily relies on the courier font but then realized not everyone who gets my message might have courier installed or worst yet simply wish to view their text only in a variable sized width. Is their any way to override their settings and get my message displayed in a fixed width? I know not every one who works with e-mail uses the bat! Thanks and Happy 2003! - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhMEQF3LB35+TCg0EQIaNwCfUMaHQR3lepTBO8k3pF2DFyhwdh0An1ha 13CFToDjDv4kIOMt//nEiC// =YTif -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Any way to make sure a sent mails format doesn't change?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, JA Not 100% true... you still require the font to be on the other JA persons computer, and you still require them to read your emails JA as HTML :) Of course, with courier the chances of it not being JA there is very slim, but as with TB, you can force mail to appear JA in just plain text alone. I cannot edit rich mail in tb am I correct? I completely understand the font will not be on all computers but the only type of font needed is a *fixed width font* to be displayed with respect to my layout. AM Thanks for clarifying those shortcomings which I agree with but AM failed to mention myself. :) AM In the end, specific instructions would likely be needed if you wish AM to reach all audiences. I can compose HTML mail with another client and send it over to the bat, archive it and redirect it from there? It will still remain its formatting in HTML correct? Also what is the average size of an HTML letter that will not get heated the text only enthusiast? I know its a matter of taste and opinion but average? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhMvYF3LB35+TCg0EQLDYQCeJfpqLwel1jdF5RE6ZL4fLrQXhRkAn3VH kKMAf532j9lDhbKrDB+La//x =I/LW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Any way to make sure a sent mails format doesn't change?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 5:20:32 PM, you wrote: AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], AM Wolffe [W] wrote:' W I am not an advocate of bloatTML in email. If you have such a W strictly formatted message to put out, and HTML is the only way W to maintain the format, then put it on a web page and mail the W URL to your recipients. You have a better chance of it being W unchanged then. I understand and do plan on passing a weblink to the content but for most of my email issues I do just want to make sure that a fixed width font will be displayed. Nothing special like tables, graphics, etc... AM This is one approach yes. I'd probably do so myself if I were in AM Victors position. Not because of bloated mail, but because it would AM more induce the recipient to view the text in their browser. People are lazy and if I have to make them take one more step to read my message I might as well lose them. For some it will not be a problem but you almost always guaranteed have a cry baby to cry over 1kb. 1kb and not even is what I think the HTML tags will throw into my message. I hope no one flips out about it. - --%-- AM It takes very little HTML markup to convert plain text to HTML AM format with the only intention being to embed the font face and AM size. Yes this is the idea. Nothing fancy just a text message with a little bit of bold and maybe a dash of italic. AM HTML mail comes in all sizes and fancy presentations. It even comes AM with it's plain text version. Plain text... maybe bold AM However, I personally don't really have a problem with it once it's AM used sensibly by 'those in the know'. Those in the know here being AM those who know the issues with HTML mail and realize that their AM audience comprise those using clients that support it. Trial and error from here on till the end my friends :) Thank you all for your good input, it is because of you all tbudl is as priceless as it is :) Happy 2003 :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhN67V3LB35+TCg0EQIifQCg1QVgez9lnQlzZrSwwiMZDDMGfOkAoJdZ 4KC8s+ur7canW3WuYXd2SGMt =J3Rk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Command line for sending mail from a certain account?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, MDP I'm not quite sure why it should do that and I don't think it MDP should. If it does, it may be a bug. I have this macro %SUBJ right at the top in my body but when I launch the shortcut that macro no longer works. VBG The %SUBJ macro is good because while in the account if I VBG have it set in my template and begin to compose a new VBG message, the macro takes the value of the actual subject. MDP Hang on - %SUBJ is a macro to *retrieve* the current subject. But MDP you're deliberately not setting one. %SUBJECT= is the macro to set a MDP subject. VBG Below is the actual macro in use. VBG - - -- VBG %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJ VBG %DATE, %OTIMELONG VBG Website Version: http://www.drafts.vbgunz.com VBG - - -- VBG When I click compose a new message is started. Though there VBG is no subject defined, it appears in the body *after* I set VBG it in the subject field and this is what it looks like... VBG - - -- VBG How to Trouble Shoot Command Lines in The Bat! VBG Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 3:04:58 PM VBG Website Version: http://www.drafts.vbgunz.com VBG - - -- How do I get the command to focus it's cursor into the subject field and not the body? MDP Ah - that's what you're after. Not possible, I'm sorry to say. The MDP cursor's only resting place when the editor is opened by automated MDP means is the body. Well I've come up with a work around thats not that bothersome. I simply created a shortcut with no command line. Just a simple blank mailto: As long as that specific account is active in the bat, when I click on the mailto: shortcut in my quick launch bar the %SUBJ macro in the body is not tampered with :) I'm happy with it. Thanks to everyone who helped me out :) Happy 2003 - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhOpDl3LB35+TCg0EQKXZQCfXsvjKsxSZdW2YQKrcL282oMb1p0AoOCp h+QeSSPyHhqHRT1UyDILmoW3 =F8cv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to Change a signature using a cookie file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I would like to *randomly* change a piece of my signature. I've gone here but it wasn't that helpful. http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg50674.html The author states to insert the following line into a new/reply message. %WRAPPED=%COOKIE= C:\Internet\TheBat\cookies.txt My question is what is the format of the cookie? I understand the address to the above macro is to a file called cookie on my own HDD but what is a cookies format? i.e: my cookie.txt file... -- cookie1: Best Regards cookie2: Positively! cookie3: Sincerely Can someone help me with the above? Thanks in advance :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhGsc13LB35+TCg0EQJ7uACfSUMt0WdwIQSSawk7Kiv2ET8Oi1sAn1rA Jd5AZIibV8hIrXtBhqOMuLb6 =SGG3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to Change a signature using a cookie file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, VBG I understand the address to the above macro is to a file VBG called cookie on my own HDD but what is a cookies format? RE a txt file with each random quote on its own line and not wrapped Thanks, I was really assuming it would be more complex than that :) It works fine and I'll put the feature to some benefit. Would anyone know of where I can get a word of the day tagline? Nothing funny or to geeky just an old fashioned good word of the day :) I would like something like the following... Please: To be the will or desire of: May it please the court to admit this firearm as evidence. Thanks again in advance :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhGxtV3LB35+TCg0EQJXngCdHYbuOfpaDNCzgrxKB4cIIdFEXRcAoLFi CbFr+/oQi1SOuqBqWR81S16m =aga5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to *if possible* edit messages inline?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, My split mode is full height account tree. In the right pane I see my list of messages and in the bottom half of the pane I see the selected message. Is there a way to directly edit a message in the bottom window or do I always have to open it up in the editor? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhG8S13LB35+TCg0EQLxqACcDpfzVhrTn3qo1gyUtkA0zoNlYqkAn28G TWiP6xFsePkTChiHyr1xBUXz =JZWP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Command line for sending mail from a certain account?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I am trying to create a shortcut that relies on a certain account. I would like to open an editing window for a certain account. I need for the editing window automatically input the accounts default template. Thank you :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhHCI13LB35+TCg0EQIjkwCdHVIvaqnMxTovDPiQ6paO0eREP6sAoOHY 7Uglira0d9vjmGV7GCcofZ4L =qq5K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Command line for sending mail from a certain account?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, I am trying to create a shortcut that relies on a certain account. I would like to open an editing window for a certain account. I need for the editing window automatically input the accounts default template. MDP This is all covered in the Help file under the Command line MDP parameters topics. For example: I looked their first for my answer but it didn't answer how I could leave out ;[EMAIL PROTECTED];S=Subject Text; and simply open the editor window for the account. MDP thebat.exe /MAILU=MyAccount;[EMAIL PROTECTED];S=Subject Text;/EDIT I modified the above code to /MAILU=vbg;EDIT and it helps to open the editor but it tampers with my account template. I have this macro %SUBJ right at the top in my body but when I launch the shortcut that macro no longer works. How do I get the command to focus it's cursor into the subject field and not the body? I do not wish to repeat the process though the command line but instead create a shortcut that launches the editor window for the account and it in no way tampers with the template. To get the cursor to focus right in the subject field would be a plus :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhHbLl3LB35+TCg0EQJbgACeLHh745B9FjhPVTuJtgENRsqHh+cAoM3E FQIJLXkD80kxISya4o29MuPa =XgTh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Command line for sending mail from a certain account?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck, MDP I'm not quite sure why it should do that and I don't think it MDP should. If it does, it may be a bug. I have this macro %SUBJ right at the top in my body but when I launch the shortcut that macro no longer works. The %SUBJ macro is good because while in the account if I have it set in my template and begin to compose a new message, the macro takes the value of the actual subject. MDP Hang on - %SUBJ is a macro to *retrieve* the current subject. But MDP you're deliberately not setting one. %SUBJECT= is the macro to set a MDP subject. Below is the actual macro in use. - - -- %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJ %DATE, %OTIMELONG Website Version: http://www.drafts.vbgunz.com - - -- When I click compose a new message is started. Though there is no subject defined, it appears in the body *after* I set it in the subject field and this is what it looks like... - - -- How to Trouble Shoot Command Lines in The Bat! Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 3:04:58 PM Website Version: http://www.drafts.vbgunz.com - - -- How do I get the command to focus it's cursor into the subject field and not the body? MDP Ah - that's what you're after. Not possible, I'm sorry to say. The MDP cursor's only resting place when the editor is opened by automated MDP means is the body. I only ask because if I launch a new message from within TB! The macro for the subject works fine. Perhaps I did stumble across a bug that does not respect the %SUBJ macro in the command line switches? I do not wish to repeat the process though the command line but instead create a shortcut that launches the editor window for the account and it in no way tampers with the template. MDP You're not telling us in what way it is tampered with. I mean everything else with the template is fine except the macro for the automatic subject title ceases to work :( Thanks again :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhH6L13LB35+TCg0EQItUwCfc9fDRGtEzCsWalhKipjFWeZ9alIAoPl5 WIVE+hV6fVZOasQw6udxfBhI =eaBT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank lines in template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tom, TS How do I add extra blank lines at the bottom of templates? I'm using TS GNUPG and the signature ends hard up against the taglines One hard return at the end of your template and then space one time. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhJlq13LB35+TCg0EQLxoACeNXk2ZbAMrlP3pGOmjx0aOEDwDqoAn3gO zqEsdXeEeeId41+gCxT4vaXS =IyQR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to Mass Export Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello marek, Is it possible to export all message from an account? If it is possible I would like it to stay in the same structure it's in now. Thanks for any help :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhBQjF3LB35+TCg0EQIfSQCgtNZFnuegBxS5BdXNdfISlPbSzEQAoKKH yMF+aL+NWvhars0KrBSvHce0 =x8l/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Netscape 7.01 and TheBat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Joseph, Monday, December 30, 2002, 10:31:54 AM, you wrote: JN Davidhoff, JNOn Monday, December 30, 2002, Davidhoff wrote in JN [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: D So, How can I use TheBat with Netscape7 ? I Use Mozilla instead and the below code when inserted into the user preferences file does the trick. user_pref(network.protocol-handler.external.mailto, true); Close out Netscape completely then navigate to your profiles directory. Find the javascript prefs file and *BACK IT UP* Insert the above code and launch Netscape. Try it out as since it works on Mozilla for me and it's sort of the grand daddy behind Netscapes browser it might work :) Your pref file should be located somewhere within the top most directory of your profile. I hope I helped :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPhBph13LB35+TCg0EQJk/ACg+Vy6AvsgfbUBbSZb0r1WD+LcHi8AoJ56 bcqfvDWAClXur5RYpQCyHzqv =ngyR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: I caught the NIMBDA Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, MA Sunday, December 29, 2002, 5:18:41 AM, you wrote: VBG In actuality I have 2 AVs. pccillin Norton fully updated. MA Er, don't :) That is, don't have 2 AVs as they will tend to crash MA your system if you run them both at the same time A Seriously, you absolutely should have a scanner. You could be one of MA the people passing on viruses to people. VBG Even if I had executed the virus and it be one of the worst VBG viruses in existence it really wouldn't have affected me in VBG the least. MA How do you know? And how do you know it won't affect someone else? It could take me a long time to explain and is why I am writing the report. I have measures of methods that I've been following for a long time and they have proven well. VBG I've built my systems to be +virus proof and I can literally VBG catch over 400 different viruses in one shot and it wouldn't VBG make a difference to my information or OS boot stability. MA Victor, you really need to read the literature. There is no such MA thing as 100% virus/worm/Trojan proof. The answer is in your own statement. No such thing (AV) that is 100% malware proof. Day 1 - You update your AV with day 1 signature. Day 2 - New malware on loose. Next AV update is day 4. Day 3 - Malware infects your OS, melting your ice cream. MA There is only a very high degree of protection. That's MA because each new incursion will result in a MA virus/worm/Trojan which you don't know about and which MA executes code you may not be protected against. I've read somewhere that human error is 77% responsible for system failures. Human Error Vs. Malware If that is the case then I am willing to bet (just a bet) the remaining 27% who protected against a virus but catches one fall into the 77% of human error. VBG To be honest I don't even need my currently updated AVs. MA Yes, you do. :) MA Not having a scanner not only means you can get infected, it also MA means you can pass it on to other people. I agree, I apologize. Though my smarts and methods might prove great against an attack on my OS, I only agree because I wasn't thinking about everyone else when it came to my OS. VBG You're right! you got me there. I know not every one has VBG systems plans in place like I do to fend off viruses, VBG Trojans worms. MA You may fend off most, but basically, even you if a triple-cycled MA sheep dip machine, you can till miss something. what? VBG I have plans on writing a report on how to operate VBG maintain a safe and healthy OS after I finish my spam report VBG and to be honest you've made a point I really didn't stop to VBG think about. MA I should check out what's already on the Net before leaping into MA writing something. I'm not saying you don't know enough or can't help MA people to learn some tricks, but your attitude to new threats and to MA passing on nasties seems a little naive. And that's not meant in any MA way offensively. No offense taken what so ever :) A good debate is the father of a good report. I was though for the record not mentioning writing a report about AVs but a report on good system maintenance. The future report is mainly aimed at protecting yourself and not others; but what is safety with a disregard of it towards others? You're right and I am not upset. I can only thank you for your point of view on the subject. VBG One thing then I would need help with if someone would be VBG so kind. One, I understand The Bat! supports the AVG plugin, VBG but do I need AVG running all the time or can AVG simply VBG launch unnoticeably when I hit send to send mail out then VBG just stop? I do still prefer a plug-in VS. full system watch AVs. Which is the best freeware version out? I don't really like the idea of paying for another anti-virus scanner :( MA You'd be much better off with the excellent Norton engine that you MA already have, running all the time. NAV is a part of my NSW2002 Pro package and I don't have it installed. Does it have plug-in support because then maybe I'll pull it out of the box? I do have MicroTrend PC-cillin 2000 installed and it is actively updated but it fails to catch incoming outgoing virus attachments :( - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg/c/13LB35+TCg0EQLEfQCg3dtk5+3kCQYUmJAqYtDYR17Xxe0AoND9 z1ZysyRUORxbtMG1OrrWm2Ms =NOhf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Model/view design for text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, JA *g* Unfortunately time ran away from me a bit, but I am currently JA working on a pure notepad like replacement that should do what TB!s JA editor does. I personally enjoy the way the editor works, and have JA spent long enough searching for one that works the same ;) I am also looking for a text editor that works like the TB! I would like the free style caret position with hard returns guaranteed. I am currently using Keynote and it is great but I really like the hard wrap functions and free style caret that TB! provides. Anyone know of a good text editor like that? I hope you guys don't mind the post as it is slightly off topic but since you're talking editor I figured you probably already know of one :) Thank you - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg1otV3LB35+TCg0EQJv5ACfQ7+LzQr+Bs+24sIiCb17mxulSlgAn2u9 qcU/voVFTn0OyNSxeiT7Aqsw =X/1S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Model/view design for text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBudl, I've asked if anyone knew of an editor much like the editor TB! uses to compose. I've gotten some replies have tried them all. Fortunately one editor (The Boxer) did fit the free style caret request but I am still looking. Thank you all for your input :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg3YaV3LB35+TCg0EQJK2QCfe9wyQ4tNoKajdJVYE+uCBIUhWBUAoKxI 2WWAyv2LcdgBOuZXZanXBIc6 =Rq9o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Model/view design for text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Victor, OK, back to the lab again, I've noticed with *The Boxer* text editor it doesn't let you free style the carets position on launch. You have to press enter first and then it'll let you free style on that line. I've downloaded tuns of text editors yesterday and came across an interesting free MDI which lets you free style and with a plethora of options (though not visibly, it's there). Anyway its called syn 2.0 ; http://syn.sourceforge.net/ It's interesting, for you text editing freaks out there :) Cheers! - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg3yHF3LB35+TCg0EQIuEwCeIofm109YDO/pY4SCW6wBd0LCTi8An322 gP1XFSIwIvpwnONZ+hTr660l =M0Fy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [the editor][28/12/2002-18:51 GMT]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello -C, CJ Is it possible to extract, in some way, the editor from TB to use CJ it as a standalone app ? You know I was thinking about exactly that as I started chasing a text editor like it. If you insist on using it as a text editor I would suggest you start looking into the command switches. You can simply manipulate your shortcut file to accept a command switch, which would launch the composer first. I just started getting into commands and there not that hard. The Bat! help files list some of the switches and I am about to look into it. I am sure someone knows exactly the switch to launch the editor and am sure someone will help you. I did come across a text editor which somewhat works like The Bats! composer... Its called syn 2.0 and you can get it at http://syn.sourceforge.net/ - -- Best Regards Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg30v13LB35+TCg0EQLKJQCbBHfBqvKX1YP3I4TWFKdvUa97CZ4AnAg+ e+/bei9vf6Q6g4amNjfsEz19 =yuGD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Model/view design for text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, I've downloaded tuns of text editors yesterday and came across an interesting free MDI which lets you free style and with a plethora of options (though not visibly, it's there). Anyway its called syn 2.0 ; http://syn.sourceforge.net/ JA Interestingly enough, I'm using the components similar to this to JA build my editor, I'm just seriously hacking the source code a bit to JA make it a totally free caret editor (unless they already did that) JA as it was limited to selecting past End of Line where as a free JA caret would allow past End of File. Very cool, If you like I would help beta test it as I have no fear of betas in the least. I would like to see it :) Good luck with it :) BTW, You can e-mail me personally on this one but will you support XP themes? Curious... Thanks for your time, Jonathan ;) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg32fV3LB35+TCg0EQKCmACeOpR7RpVul4u/6MrKglhqdMIPdP4AoNBv 38qCWEWc0FqBft4cYLBZxkkJ =PYdX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
I caught the NIMBDA Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I have no Virus plug ins that work with The Bat! and no Anti-Virus scanner running active. I was cleaning my hard drive out and came across a message titled: l2_button_myphonebook_page Within it were two attachments Message.htm Readme.exe Knowing it'll be stupid to launch anything entitled readme.exe I decided the hell with it let me double click it and The Bat! quickly intercepted and said... This file is not allowed for opening under any circumstances... Very cool!, I downloaded it to my hard drive and said the hell with it, I'll scan it. PC-cillin said it was infected with the PE_NIMBDA.A-0 Virus. The moral of the story is if The Bat! wasn't so smart I would have been proven to be real stupid. Nice catch. I just thought I would share that with you all. BTW, 4 years on-line and this is my first catch :) Is it a sign? Wierdest thing is it was actually located on a shared drive on the network. It wasn't really on my PC to begin with but was in a shared folder that no one really touches. hmmm I will look up this virus and slap the owner. If only it we're that easy huh... Oh,well - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg37eV3LB35+TCg0EQIABACg20S93ek8R/+vpjhgiL9cB2ysUvkAoLu9 Eyzr6QrSizME1Fbrx7McrjfP =r66x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Model/view design for text editor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, I'm no expert on text editors, so I'd best ask. Can other editors: Change text from All Caps to All Lower Case or First Letter Caps with a 2 key keystroke combo? TF How do you do that? (Another feature I never knew of... ;-)) I use one text/rtf editor which provides a plethora of options that do allow manipulation of text in many ways. It is called keynote 1.5.8 and you can get it at the following address: http://keynote.prv.pl/ You can send mail direct from the program and it is quite amazing being it is a free application :) I prefer it over many IMO. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg5/FV3LB35+TCg0EQJDUwCfX7pxWbO0IQm3ftaO1O2n6cKfmGIAnixh 4YwYWS3xbrlr1Q54XKPz20Tg =BKyA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I caught the NIMBDA Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, VBG I have no Virus plug ins that work with The Bat! and no VBG Anti-Virus scanner running active. In actuality I have 2 AVs. pccillin Norton fully updated. I manually choose to disable their running active on purpose. I like my system to run quicker faster do not appreciate the lag these types of programs create. MA Yikes!! Victor, please promise me you'll never, ever email me? Thanks. MA Then when I get a message from you I'll know it's definitely one of MA the viruses you've caught. ;-) hehe, ok. But I cannot promise I'll never e-mail you :) MA Seriously, you absolutely should have a scanner. You could be one of MA the people passing on viruses to people. Even if I had executed the virus and it be one of the worst viruses in existence it really wouldn't have affected me in the least. I've built my systems to be +virus proof and I can literally catch over 400 different viruses in one shot and it wouldn't make a difference to my information or OS boot stability. To be honest I don't even need my currently updated AVs. MA Not having a scanner not only means you can get infected, it also MA means you can pass it on to other people. You're right! you got me there. I know not every one has systems plans in place like I do to fend off viruses, Trojans worms. I have plans on writing a report on how to operate maintain a safe and healthy OS after I finish my spam report and to be honest you've made a point I really didn't stop to think about. One thing then I would need help with if someone would be so kind. One, I understand The Bat! supports the AVG plugin, but do I need AVG running all the time or can AVG simply launch unnoticeably when I hit send to send mail out then just stop? I would like AVG to only scan outgoing mail at all other times remain inactive not scanning anything else. I am right now going to test sending nimbda to myself while pccillin has pop3 mail scan active :) I'll let you know ;) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPg6FoF3LB35+TCg0EQI9NgCfQlf51IPlNcQSVpbe5Lpn5YKt9mIAn13x c6BtKkaAPH+rj9t74KBsgo0U =aSEJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk, Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... DH Scheduling: Concur. DH Full-blown calendar: No. You weren't the only one to disagree with a calendar being a part of The Bat! and every one is entitled to their opinion without argument but it is just that I see it differently. I do not want a calendar to simply be a part of the client for non e-mail task management purposes or because most major players already incorporate one. My life revolves around e-mail, scheduling, reminders, broadcast, etc and I would surely appreciate a client which can ease the work for me by removing a lot of the redundancy. I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should be somewhat a standard for mail clients. DH It was said his will come via plug-in with v2. DH I'd prefer TB stays an e-mail client. News is much more than mail and DH there are at least two good news clients on the market (Gravity and DH Agent, even Free Agent is very good). I was completely use to participating in newsgroups using clients like outlook and Mozilla and I have grown to expect such features without question. For me personally I respect newsgroups and if they never die neither then will my participation in them. Combining the two made it easy to copy, paste and/or forward good and critical information when necessary. I still use Mozillas Calendar and e-mail/newsgroup client to stay on top of scheduling and knowledge trades. Extract information from the body and sort to address book or to file. DH Isn't that possible with RegEx? Not like I am thinking about it. Did you ever code and along the left side of your editor theres a number for every line? I collect information using on-line forms and the information sent to my e-mail is the same every time. line 13: Users IP line 14: First Name line 15: etc line 16: referrers address I would like to say to the bat if this message matches this filter then extract, line 13, line 14 and line 15 and reply with a certain address (not my default) and e-mail line 16. I can imagine RegEx has the features but I am no geek and I am not stupid but little by little I am sure the bat team can add more usability filtering and macros. Reply without using default reply address but templates reply address. DH I may misunderstand this, but isn't that what AB templates (perhaps in DH conjunction with QTs) are for? The Bat is awesome and does have some major player features but what I am asking for I guess is account or alias creation on the fly. My default account is ooo but if a message sent to my inbox is for xxx then reply with xxx. I am really happy you concurred with everything else :) The above are my opinions and my opinions alone. The Bat! is awesome but I found out early that loyalty can kill you. The second a newer and better application comes along I ride the wave out until a better one surfaces. No one pays me to stick around so if I have to pay I will keep an open mind with my head up :) Just another opinion :) Merry Christmas Happy Holidays Everyone! - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgmBFV3LB35+TCg0EQJDTQCeJ9mvuv7J+i7P4QNADPY/+NTNFgsAn0Yo RGCvvfcJRoxeLUS3f87PWMVJ =SbhO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, PS I mentioned this feature request before, but nobody replied to my PS post. sigh PS When editing a message I'd like to see the status of: PS Auto Format PS Auto Wrap PS Justify on Auto Wrap PS displayed on the bottom of the edit screen where the character/line counter PS is shown. Since we're talking about feature request I've got a few. Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should be somewhat a standard for mail clients. I would like to see better, more versatile support for templates filters. i.e. Templates: Extract information from the body and sort to address book or to file. Reply without using default reply address but templates reply address. A full quick template window instead of the fixed size. Instead of one button for all macros it should be much like the file menu aligned along the top for all macro categories. Filters: Sorting office filters window should not be a fixed size window. More options in the sense of one filter with check box options for read, replied, etc... I got many more Ideas I would love to see implemented but this was off the top of my head. Good luck :) Happy Holidays :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgkJcF3LB35+TCg0EQKvugCg41XcL+iPAvt9LMlus0+QEs8pSBIAoNXF UvAY+q5H4mR0j7IIQ9muMdWq =trJv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Merry Christmas Bat Users :)
Hello Everyone, May the best of the holiday season still be yet to come. I hope you all get what you're wishing for and hope a goodnight and morning to you all. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays! -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PS. May even better times lay ahead for us all :) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Email market research
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, DC This article, from the U.S. Washington Post, discusses missing email DC capabilities: DC http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20494-2002Dec21.html?referer=email The person who wrote the article lacks the knowledge required to write such an article. One key point on the persons poor research abilities published on Sunday, December 22, 2002 are Pegasus Mail (last updated substantially in late 2001). I am no fan of Pegasus but to my knowledge last update was August 24, 2002 http://www.pmail.com/newsflash.htm#WPM402 He states an argument of the clients automatically displaying HTML e-mail, which might be the case for some but doesn't make a reference that most will offer a choice to view messages only as text and how some clients default to view only text. To me the author seemed fixed on his own ideas of what makes a client safe and he made a few bad examples of some clients in the process. I can honestly compare e-mail to sex and clients to a prophylactic. E-mail can become a very dangerous routine and leave you caught out there with a spam disease but is it the clients fault? Will you really put a prophylactic on your foot when you do it? You really should learn how to use it heh? It takes a lot to learn how to send and receive but is it really the clients fault the user decides to stop it there? Doesn't the user also have a choice? I had OE, dropped it, had Eudora, dropped it, had Mozilla, dropped it and moved on. The author only mentioned I believe 3 out of literally hundreds of clients to choose from. Overall it wasn't an article about how clients lack progress but about how the author chose three products to speak badly about. If he knew about The Bat! would he have still spoken negatively in that article or could he have in it's place put something positive about The Bat!? MY .02 cents I am sorry, this is off topic but sometimes you gotta get a little crazy to survive. Please do not mention bandwidth as an issue either and do - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgfYO13LB35+TCg0EQLFDwCdELL1B/291pY7lBWFB5oqtL84SGQAoJZi 8Vs+YAUHmLhSEkBT6LY0nlsh =RW0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Blocking Sender
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Granville, Monday, December 23, 2002, 8:06:44 PM, you wrote: GC Hello TBUDL, GC I am receiving emails from unwanted sources. For example I get on GC average emailed to me 5 viruses each week. Whilst my Anti-Virus GC software picks them up and quarantines them, how do I configure TB to GC block these senders? Go to filters and block sender/s. If you do not know how to work with filters, it is then time to learn them. If you know how to work with filters but the sender is changing his from address or location often, you might require a more complex filter. To start, see what it is that makes the e-mails from the source the same. See what it is they all have in common. Then before you start on a filter make sure what the bad e-mail has the same does in no way conflict with your regular legitimate e-mail. Work on a filter that now searches for the similarity. It's no answer but it's an ideal start. Happy Holidays, I hope I helped :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPggFTl3LB35+TCg0EQLrvQCfa5Ke31DNZRb/i6feFSdJmxOcOrMAoPBp pbbHG13EKZih1et+dHqeRtiP =YKrJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat FREEZES again!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello nenad, Sunday, December 22, 2002, 6:15:33 PM, you wrote: n Hello people, n I also have that problem with freezing (or better: slowing down my n computer by 99%) as soon as Bat is started. n It doesn't happen immediatelly after start nor regularly but often and n ONLY when BAT is started. I had the problem and was the worst experience I ever had with a PC. It niether freezes or crashes but just slows down and never responds except for a hard boot. My problem was ZoneAlarm Pro and this community highly recommended I make the switch to Kerio. Ever since the switch I never experienced the *freeze* again. I wish I can help you, as for me it was indeed the worst experience but if you do not have ZoneAlarm Pro I do not know what to say. If you do finally get a firewall Kerio 3 beta 5 is working great for me just FYI. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgZfuV3LB35+TCg0EQLuNgCfUh1C5yreOD6Ma1FCjT/mZwfOc6IAoMuF UnG/fl4dq26K7h3mxc95+Lmj =fFu6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: Can any one suggest a calendar that works with The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, Is anyone using a calendar that works well with TB? I would like to be reminded through e-mail about important events, meetings, etc. I am just looking for a suggestion, sorry for being OT. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgaquF3LB35+TCg0EQK+qwCg00amCtXekg4ZCANCRWEZH6hygLUAoIQ2 jGG0wC6WBGDxicayuL0v6xk2 =aB1H -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to subscribe to newsgroups?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, The Bat! is my default e-mail client and IMAP handler because anywhere I click on a mailto: link TB! takes over. My question is I tried clicking on this link news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.helpauthoring to subscribe but Look Out Express kept taking it over. I looked through help and searched for newsgroups and news groups and even news: but nothing pops up. Can TB! handle news:? Thanks :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgQgrF3LB35+TCg0EQKwLQCgquD76nswUYA/GFclqj2dQQI1vsIAn19h WGHWSinaATv5CWXnY7vCFVxc =rBWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where is the Rogues Gallery?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I tried this link http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html but couldn't find it. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgRLPl3LB35+TCg0EQKXnACgmwLOr5t/24YEm4uApmyYes+QG/EAoOVl KvGzcRtncikhL7V7TRVradzl =8ABs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, DvZ I don't know what's wrong but every time I reply to you I get Hello DvZ Victor instead of Hello Allie (see above). I don't have a reply DvZ template in your addressbook entry that overrules the addressbook DvZ entry of the list. So I don't know what's causing this. DvZ Does anyone has a clue? I would assume I am the Victor in question. It is strange and I would like to also know why. Perhaps maybe somehow your AB likes me? I will watch as I too would like to hear the answer... - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgTjcF3LB35+TCg0EQJdAwCZAepn4z2/lUZvgdBDlZh+u3t3jlYAnjfG UtSCrafn0pztF9EsgK8PSM4A =Zhv3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Updating AB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Eddie, I know of a work around [...] EC ... that did what I needed :) I am happy I could help you :) EC Let me just as a follow-up question. EC Is it possible to synchronize two AB? I am am sure there is a way but unfortunately its beyond my knowledge :( This list is great, I am sure someone either knows how or has a work around. Happy Holidays :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgLi0l3LB35+TCg0EQLNaACfYPVAcyJRY8WoBkb2ONCtCK9nbbgAn13C jA/W3lp1Vj4enLwiTGmazTrn =PPok -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Insert macro in Msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jonathan, When I'm in the AB and have a group selected then start a new Msg. I can't find any 'Macro' Button to Insert Macros into the Msg Body. Can this be confirmed and must I in this case insert macros on my own (e.g. Dear %TOname)? I know exactly how you feel. It's one of the major bummers of TB! in handling mass mailing or on the fly macro creation. The Macros like %TOname you insert in your templates of the AB Group, not in the Message Editor. JA You can always use a Quick Template to produce that kind of affect, True, It took me a while to get how it works but the idea is simple. If you ever wish to put macros into your document so the end receivers can see the true values and not the %%macros you'll have to first create a quick template. Consider the quick template the real editor when it comes to composing your messages to the masses. JA quicktemplatenameCTRL + SPACE JA To insert the content of the Quick Template, including resolved JA Macros. (Replace quicktemplatename to whatever you called it). You'll simply have to learn how to use quick templates. They pretty much hold dear the answers you're looking for. I hope I helped. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgOKVV3LB35+TCg0EQJT7ACg1+6ymjI4poDISHVjxmV7YPUspGIAnjDQ 3JKKqQDl3gPtskl7lKE/1MdA =olOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem mirroring my mailboxes on a second computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, MSG I need to have a mirror copy of my mailboxes on a backup computer. The only solution I currently have to help you mirror an inbox is to share your accounts directory with the desktop. I mean file, folder and printer sharing provided by Windows. The only problem I can see arise from this is what actually happens is any changes you make last on one PC will reflect in the next one on next access. MSG My main computer is a laptop and my backup computer is a desktop. MSG Currently, I use the TB Backup function to create a backup file from MSG my laptop which I then move, using PC Anywhere, to my desktop that I MSG use strictly for backup. After I move the file over to the desktop, I MSG do a Restore in TB. You backup on your notebook, pass the file to your desktop and then restore it on your notebook or on your desktop? If you restore TB! files on your desktop it means you're not really using your desktop solely for backup. In this case share the mail account if possible to have both your desktop and notebook access one account. Otherwise backing up TB! is always a good idea and storing it elsewhere is better. MSG The backup/restore process works fine. It brings over all the new MSG messages; however, it also keeps all previous messages, many of which MSG have been deleted from my laptop--or moved from one mailbox to another. If you're deleting messages but they seem to show up after a restore are you purging and compressing all of your folders? I purge, compress, backup and every restore never brought from the dead a message that was meant to be deleted. Purging and compressing your folders I believe will wipe your account of deleted folders, messages and attachments, etc. MSG I'd like to be able to restore all my mailboxes so that the desktop MSG will mirror what is on my laptop. If you share your account the problem will disappear and what will happen is your notebook will mirror your desktop and your desktop mirror your notebook. I have the same setup as yourself. My notebook is my primary and my desktop my secondary. Both run XP and both are connected to each other via a very simple network. I thought running a network will cost and arm and a leg but it's really less than 10.00 dollars to accomplish. Look at the back of your PCs and see if you have 1394 IEEE firewire ports and if you do you're in luck. Your PCs should be able to communicate in live time and at blazing speeds. Nothing beats a stable network for less than 10.00 and a network sure beats almost anything else :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgQbz13LB35+TCg0EQKHUQCeN4kOsDVIl3imiG4f3adSBW9BvYoAn2Ei SlaFdS7Kzz6hQ233s3R50z0M =GH0C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduling message sending
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sean, Wednesday, December 18, 2002, 9:25:07 PM, you wrote: S Is it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a later time? For S example, if I compose a message at 1pm, but want it sent at 5pm, is S there any way to tell TB! to do that? Heres an idea but will only work once and then reset. Create an identical account. The new account will only handle outgoing messages at the time you choose. During the new account creation process make sure to check leave a copy on the server. Once prompted to check your new account say yes. Go to transport delivery, *check* immediate and then check combined delivery. Make sure under management you're leaving messages on the server as so not to interfere with your normal account. Go to options *un-check* check mail at start-up and *check* periodical checking each Now heres the math. If you compose at 1:PM and want the message sent at 5:PM put under minutes 240. Get the idea? It works and is the only work around I can come up with to send mail at a scheduled time. When you've composed your message and you're done with it simply hit Ctrl+Q then O (Ctrl Q + O) or drop the message menu and Queue in Outbox. Thats it :) I hope it works :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgI0EV3LB35+TCg0EQLLbACgph8IDy0PDa3LZskLZ1yJKxoHlAQAnimm vPafQM9y/Z3RWsZHaykhbpdx =PrIl -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Updating AB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Eddie, EC This is the situation: I have a folder with many sub-folders. They EC are sorted by Subject. My filters are moving all mails coming in to EC these folders. As I didn't advice the filters to register the Senders EC Address into an AB I need to do it now. EC Is there a way to automate this process with a filter? EC Many thanks in advance! I know of only one way. You have to define that property for each folder separately because as far as my knowledge goes each filter is independent of its partners. Unless all of you're mail sees the inbox or another folder first you can define for that folder to add any person or entity into your address book. It would probably make a great feature request. A global filter would work nice and I can probably come up with a dozen or more reasons on how to put it to good use. I'll watch what happens :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgK9o13LB35+TCg0EQKIMgCeLBnejbQN7Q/bd9PpoCyl4TdOa7gAnjpK CrBIqFf/urnS177AZkXFij8h =/O9x -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: Updating AB
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, EC This is the situation: I have a folder with many sub-folders. They EC are sorted by Subject. My filters are moving all mails coming in to EC these folders. As I didn't advice the filters to register the Senders EC Address into an AB I need to do it now. EC Is there a way to automate this process with a filter? I know of a work around that should get every sender from every mail in your entire account put into your address book. I assume you know how to work with filters and assume you have all the messages in which you wish to extract sender information. Create a new folder (call it senders), in your account tree select your account, Ctrl + F, Your find dialog box pops up, Select the anywhere check box and enter in the find field a period (.) (no brackets) hit find. This method should find every bit of mail in your account. Highlight the entire list and copy them temporarily into the newly created senders folder. Getting the drift? Create a (read filter) to scan that folder manually and make sure every message is actually read (not marked as unread), and in your new senders filter add senders to the AB. I hope it works as it seems to help to automate it a little bit. I hope I helped :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgLAIV3LB35+TCg0EQJLQACg6Qbvh34VTIrCGWdOSAWImppk+68AoPM8 HWSb2a0tGRonZUbL4JGzQqwL =XlOQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Fwd: Re: Importing Messages from Outlook Express
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Granville, GC I would like to keep messages in Outlook Express GC as a safe guard and for backup purposes. Is there some setting GC that prevents snipTB!/snip importing duplicate messages. As far as preventing it, not sure, but you can kill dupes by going to folder kill dupes. Better than nothing huh :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgENlF3LB35+TCg0EQIVcQCgopsxGXR8dgpPkUGVI2+F44bl/cYAni4/ t6nOiV3PCJm+Wrw3e08As1q8 =1I12 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BCC doesn't work, How to filter bounces clear the to field
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Johannes, I expect to get all sorts of bounces soon but would like to never see one of them. JP Why? Repercussions of fighting spam. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPf38il3LB35+TCg0EQLJkgCfZxKSgQUnxS8JlROXpss2n3i6GYwAn00B XlLQGCrk1p+RrcDXfpafocjx =MJSb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I access a MID: Link?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I found this link in a thread, clicked on it but opened a search window in TB! How do I see the thread? MAU See a thread with Subject: [SOT] The best filter for SPAM started MAU yesterday with my [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPf4Cz13LB35+TCg0EQJDbQCcC+ULUQSAi64Xk0vXNKH/9r5qdxoAn1oG B2d+f9bUIk2QdA1Fqzd0FUyT =a6Nf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do I access a MID: Link?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, PM on Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:44:23 -0500GMT (16.12.02, 17:44 +0100GMT here), PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : VBG I found this link in a thread, clicked on it but opened a VBG search window in TB! How do I see the thread? PM You'll have to point TB! to the folder where the respective message is PM stored. So, where did you store yesterday's TBUDL messages? :-) Oh, I know exactly where it is stored but thought the link would take me to the web or something. I do not delete TBUDL mailings and have over 1000 messages in an archive. I figure good way to get my faqs answered :) How then do I point to a message like that for someone else? How do I make a reference to an old message? - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPf4IKV3LB35+TCg0EQI7KwCgm/bjcyq0Rp7+zqkGshKXTJF4QkMAoJcq f5dbIb1PDT9+uXAvAMqXWH1T =dWvq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do I access a MID: Link?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, PM So, where did you store yesterday's TBUDL messages? :-) VBG Oh, I know exactly where it is stored but thought the link VBG would take me to the web or something. PM You may find it on the web as well, but you probably have the message with PM that ID on your own hard disk. VBG I do not delete TBUDL mailings and have over 1000 messages in an VBG archive. I figure good way to get my faqs answered :) VBG How then do I point to a message like that for someone else? VBG How do I make a reference to an old message? PM First thing is, you should activate your view of the message ID by going to PM menu View -- Message Headers -- select Message-ID. Now the ID is displayed PM with every message and you can easily copy and paste it from there for PM reference. There are several templates in regard to this in the PM Silverstones FAQ, but I can send you mine if need be. :-) Thanks Peter. Is it possible to send me the template you use and also if possible the link to the Silverstones FAQ? Thank you Peter :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPf4fi13LB35+TCg0EQKeZQCeKISADMGAcJp73424MucphZxuqEQAnRk8 XePNORLo0gECExxqfcZ6v5PA =Ftvy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is this list ok?
I haven't seen any activity in a while and I am just curious. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I recently went from Zone Alarm Pro to Kerio for my firewall needs and Kerio is a superior product without a question. There is just one tiny new irritant that's really beginning to urk me out. Every time I go to sleep leaving the network running (2 PCs) my notebook (connects to the desktop for access) gets disconnected from the Internet. This has happened every night but during the day while I am on I can not seem to make it happen. It seems to happen when I leave my notebook unattended at night. Anyone else having or had this issue with the Kerio firewall? I am really trying to fix it. Can someone please help me? Thank you :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfyrYF3LB35+TCg0EQK4uQCgo1YJGaLBlykYzuuvZ4gOi5E3zucAn1Bf +XqmFOEPpi/5RpvNnaUnYOS7 =2ceI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SOT: From ZAP to KERIO, another minor issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, VG There is just one tiny new irritant that's really beginning to VG urk me out. Every time I go to sleep leaving the network running VG (2 PCs) my notebook (connects to the desktop for access) gets VG disconnected from the Internet. ACM VG Anyone else having or had this issue with the Kerio firewall? I VG am really trying to fix it. Can someone please help me? ACM This is an off-topic request. Some topics will naturally drift ACM off-topic but we discourage new off-topic requests, especially one ACM as involved as this. I apologize but asked, because when I had the freezing issues Kerio was so highly recommended. I thought if so many Bat! users we're using Kerio then maybe someone has had this problem before. Maybe also someone had an idea. ACM Would you post this one to TBOT. It's the off-topic discussion list ACM for TB List members. Will do. I've been meaning to get to it. Thanks Allie :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfy2rF3LB35+TCg0EQL6agCg+lihj7GqIHOisRRps5fqSyJR2cwAoL95 i4GhPbHa1df4Kj5WWcDlPffy =4aZp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BCC doesn't work, How to filter bounces clear the to field
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, I tried several times to test the mass mailing feature of the bat. I did as mentioned in the help files and put an address in the to: field as not to reveal others addresses but no one in the BCC field gets a message... How would you filter bounced messages? I expect to get all sorts of bounces soon but would like to never see one of them. I remember a while back spamkiller could do this. What do all bounces have in common that would not interfere will my regular mail? Also, I've tested TB! mailing a lot and have filled up where the To: field is with all sorts of addresses. How do I clear it? Can I cycle through the addresses too? Thank you all for your time :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfy5cF3LB35+TCg0EQJuNwCfaOUr3sJx5OnL/frGatqanmJgNGYAn3/g Cq1F4qag1dqzt6i9FNZJ3mC4 =ThqN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, VBG At first the only thing that irritated me was the fact that VBG unlike ZAP, Kerio asked permission for everything... For VBG example, just launching my browser can easily launch open VBG 20+ confirmation boxes and launching my Messenger VBG (I counted this one with show alerts) will open 44. MA Outpost lets you set up permissions for each separate program, so that MA doesn't happen... TF So does Sygate. I was surprised when I noticed that if you allow an TF application to use one port, by default all ports are available to TF that app. Kerio is definitely hot! I thank you all for your input but since Kerio's installation, shes proven easy maintenance :) I did manage to stop the repetitive confirmations and the only problem to it was the program doesn't work like that by default. I had go into it's advanced settings to set it up but it's working excellent and is an awesome Firewall. Thank you Mark and Thomas and everybody else :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPftmeF3LB35+TCg0EQJcHACfbf/+dpYMx4j6dbKpuxg3k7/SgnMAoOau kDvMjPzvhmg0LNdn6FpAonWC =zbHl -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: multi user, only one allowed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, TF But a message that has been replied to will have this little TF arrow on the envelope. The next user accessing the mail base TF should see it. ACM Yes, but this doesn't prevent him/her from composing another answer. IMO, Why not then put your foot down and lay down the rules? Not to be smart but if more than one person is to reply to an e-mail you must be running something that is outside of a personal base. I can only come up with 2 solutions at the moment. 1. Lay down the rules, tell your crew to be aware of multiple replies. Move the replied message to a special folder (already replied to). 2. I am sure there is a rule complex enough to move the messages that need a reply and the replies to folders that should probably only be used for reference. 3. If worst comes to worst it just might benefit you! Any customer I am sure would pend most of their business needs on how well support can handle their request. Sometimes two replies just might be better than one :) 3a. Setup a template that tells the user if you get more than one reply to your message it is because we care and aim for the peaks of good business :) I might not have answered you and I am not a marine but sometimes you just have to make due with what you got and most of the time simply improvise with what you have. ACM Also, the message is flagged as replied only after the reply is ACM sent. The two users could be composing replies concurrently. You must be handling your mail at server level where TB! doesn't handle incoming mail and then divides amongst certain parties... If this is the case it is understandable then why two users could be replying to a message at the same time. My only solution would be to create a new off-line rule. Setup a quick template that tells your partners someone is already replying to the request. A B get a question through the mail. A B are about to both reply to it. A B input their energy and resources into it and the person with the question get's 2 replies. How about A B gets the question. A B either informs the other their answering or A B forward their replies to C. I don't know this is all more idea than it is answers probably but I am really just trying to open your mind if I can. I hope I helped. - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfuXj13LB35+TCg0EQKUiQCdETTkz9lV8s5/advYyFdTNMvUyeEAoNYB gqoeqDCQTBhzrTxRVEC3FySW =ToSU -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
SOT: Its official ZAP is out, Kerio now in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, Maybe some of you are aware I've been experiencing *freezes* on my XP system while running The Bat! along side Zone Alarm Pro. Though it rarely happened, maybe once or twice a night it was, for me, too much. The Kerio firewall seemed to be well took by The Bat! community so I've decided to try it. I had problems with Kerio 2s Internet connection sharing and plus it looked dull but the Kerio 3 beta 5 works smooth, great and plus it looks awesome! I really love how it plays firewall with my applications, asking permission if one app can use or install another. That is very cool. There is just one tiny irritant about it. Unlike ZAP it seems to ask for permission for every thread a program can spit out. I would like to say yes to the parent program and all the child threads are permissioned for the session. Is that possible? I ask because 3 of my programs I would have to say yes to dialog boxes close to over 30 times. That is the only real annoying feature but everything else is excellent. I'll get to it in the morning as I am really tired right now but if anybody has a tip to share or something that can help, I'd be entirely thankful. Thanks, goodnight, sweet dreams, be good :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PS. How do I edit the dictionary? I added a misspelled word to it on accident... Thanks again :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA+AwUBPfmWdF3LB35+TCg0EQIBdQCY0gSquRfLm5AT5VAHBBqCYKU/CQCgtOSo 5SDSNoKhFL/jA3p1SLgPNXA= =60mW -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Moving Folders etc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chris, CW I've now set-up a new account in TB!, but want to move everything from CW the old account, to this newly created one. Since you've just created it why not simply import the old profile, rename it and change the pop-smtp settings? CW I've copied the 'account.cfg' file to copy the main configuration of the CW account (I added the new details), but I also want to move my CW personal/local folders and filters. If you really did set up a new account in The Bat! not much (hopefully) went into customizing it yet. IMHO, I would really just import the old, rename change settings. CW Can anyone advise please. It's my 2 cents before I hit the sack. I hope it helps :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfmb813LB35+TCg0EQL8mwCfXu8C0ZC0VFxkAYAAENzpd2YnWDYAoJma g3bSpvUImgagW9T90BfMXrW4 =tc5m -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, MA TB. It's called Outpost and is available from http://www.agnitum.com/ MA and no, I have no connection with hem except as a very satisfied user. SB Of course Victor could always try the 'free for personal use' Sygate SB Personal Firewall as well, which is far better than ZA as well in my, and SB many others' opinions :) If before all of this Kerio wasn't so heavily mentioned I'd probably be confused by now :) Due to my OS halting I made the switch to Kerio. I am using Kerio 3 Beta 5 (2 had a steeper learning curb) and it is amazing. I really, really like it and can not believe it's free. ZAP is a write off... At first the only thing that irritated me was the fact that unlike ZAP, Kerio asked permission for everything... For example, just launching my browser can easily launch open 20+ confirmation boxes and launching my Messenger (I counted this one with show alerts) will open 44. That is a lot of yes's for one program but the default interaction is geared for the highly technical. I was hoping it was like ZAP and would ask permission only once... I went to sleep at 3 woke up at 6:30, got to learning it a bit and the feature is there. I quickly implemented it and presto, now I only get one confirmation box in launching my browser or messenger and I can turn off that confirmation completely If I wish without compromising my PCs security. It is seamless with Internet file sharing and Microsoft Networking which is a definite plus but the biggest plus of all is The Bat! hasn't frozen yet (you think?). I hope all goes well and only time can tell. Thank you all for your help and though ZAP might conflict with TB!, I would still recommend it as Kerio is a little beefier. Until, :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfnk913LB35+TCg0EQKjMQCcCN8Ey0tjJ5zFmnMqNi2lSPoNDfkAnRmt ozuWrr0FXDUcKtV8nE+KsCDM =GntP -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
How do I break body lines in a mailto: link?
Hello tbudl, Thanks to Melissa I've learned how to input text into the body of my web-pages mailto: link 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subject 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subjectbody=body 1. composes a new message with the subject = subject 2. composes with the subject = subject body = body While playing around with it I tried my best (almost went nuts) to break the body line... I tried the following: nbsp; BR \n \n\ None of the above seems to work in the bat. Can I break the lines or not? I've composed a really long line that doesn't wrap in The Bat! when the mailto link is clicked. Real curious -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: How do I break body lines in a mailto: link?
Hello Victor, I am sorry about this post. It was not meant for the TBUDL. VBG Can I break the lines or not? I've composed a really long VBG line that doesn't wrap in The Bat! when the mailto link VBG is clicked. -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SOT: Its official ZAP is out, Kerio now in
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, Regarding the Kerio Firewall VBG I would like to say yes to the parent program and all the VBG child threads are permissioned for the session. Is that VBG possible? PC yes, you check the little box in the lower left before you check accept PC or deny, then it creates a template and you never have to say yes(or no) PC to that process again. Thanks Paul. With Kerio 3 beta 5 I've got it to work asking only once for the parent program to get out and if I say yes all the children will not be confirmed. I did not wish to give explicit permission for 24/7 access to any particular program except for what Windows XP considers vital. Thanks for your input Paul, Its people like yourself that make tbudl an amazing udl :) Redundant or repetitive? - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfny9l3LB35+TCg0EQL/dQCgwL3aMvp+UrzeysGpKzUlCuB6860An2Rp ojv9Ni5Nw5IY4zsDhAVnLWHe =EdJ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, Amazing! Without this list it probably would have took me a while to figure this out but ZoneAlarm Pro does seem to be the bad guy behind The Bat! *freezing* my system. On my notebook for the first time The Bat! froze and when I saw that this morning I got so burnt but I tried launching the task manager... Unlike my desktop it launched on my notebook and I quickly killed ZoneAlarm. The whole system came back on line. Now instead of killing ZoneAlarm and knocking it out of the equation I will tweak it like Gerard said (kill ZAP mail features), Sorry bud I did it for my desktop but held doing it to the notebook to balance how best to find the problem. Well, It seems to be ZAP so now I'll tweak it. Thank you all, I'll let you know how it all goes down for me :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfiK1l3LB35+TCg0EQKwzwCeNFrBuiDmajBcGoWl5fHG07oYHc0AoJ0R zvRHYB3Brq6+8+MpkpPiHYoh =EaEx -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Some Minor Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello tbudl, If you just read the discussions as they come in you're almost guaranteed to learn something. I have :) How do I create a default view for all my folders? I have over 21 folders and would like for all of them to have the same sorters... I would like all of them to have the option to park, to from, subject, and received. I tried right clicking an individual folder and noticed use the account default settings but I do not know where they are or how to change them all in one shot? Can someone help? Also the autocomplete when composing is cool but I heard you can cycle through them. Is this true? I tried tabbing, pressing down, up, right and space but nothing works... Is it true? Thanks - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfiZJF3LB35+TCg0EQLmFACgslTDHBRk4xGh9FI594gW+oO5nEcAnRTW qkM88fVNMrb2617FPQ7rfFLC =JdT4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Spike, S BTW, your signature (the last 5 messages) has changed to INVALID S again. 8^( PGP or certificate? In PGP it might state I have an invalid key until you sign it. With the certification, well I'll be stumped :) - - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfiaEl3LB35+TCg0EQLimQCfYYAZfacFZkxJLA8yygYGlgyyP4YAoOo6 5nrjYw0Iu9YhA9OjjmdBmJd+ =W7+l -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: Some Minor Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marcus, MO First set all folders you want to look the same to use the account MO default settings, then adjust one of them to look like you want it. Thank you Marcus, I think it couldn't have been said better :) Is there a way to introduce a mass change like that? The reason I ask is because I have an archive with over 200 folders and 6,000 messages I would like to re-import back into The Bat! but can you imagine the tediousness? Thank you Marcus, doing it to the 21 folders was easy but what lies ahead is scary :( Have a great day - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfigQ13LB35+TCg0EQI20gCgjxZOKu88n4LfFi1q4TBxXkaCajIAn3vB SmBdA6XIFF4T7q/xN0JluRxH =ZUyK -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: It's true - *Freezing* Is caused by ZoneAlarm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, S BTW, your signature (the last 5 messages) has changed to INVALID again. S 8^( SB It's OK here :) I've forwarded the messages to other PCs on my network to other accounts and they've seen no problem. Also, a few of my associates on-line couldn't see it either... Perhaps maybe (not sure) Dave Goodman's client can not handle my certificate's CA? Also upon personal correspondence with Goodman I noticed Dave's certificate is not valid. I am not sure what's happening but everything looks OK on my end. PN: Simon, I will get back to you on a personal note A.S.A.P. because at the current moment I am swamped with work :) I am writing a few reports on spam and would appreciate anyones insight about how you can best battle it without 3rd party plug-ins or applications and preferably with email clients alone :) Until, you all have a great day :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfinzl3LB35+TCg0EQJ4ugCfQ6YRz18Q2Yy2ZR+Ky22Wv6BgfJ8AoNfr VUgOSXfb/CKAhB+FXtkpHof1 =oJob -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*
Hello Gerard, VBG Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which VBG process overwhelmed my system how would I go about VBG preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is VBG in action? G I had the problem this morning on my WIN2K system. G The way to find the process is to switch to the task manager I wish I can do that but it'll never launch :( and if it is already running the system doesn't slow down instead it really freezes and everything is untouchable. G found it to be a little programm called VSMON.exe. G it turns out that VSmon.exe is part of an old friend called ZoneLabs :( I know but listen to this... On my desktop PC I've seen those problems and they we're inescapable but I recently got a notebook PC which is a little less powerful and I haven't experienced a *freeze* yet. G I don't know how this is possible but I expected it to be part of the G mail check thingy Zonelabs has were it deactivates certain file based on G the extension. I switch that option to No and everything is working now. Are you talking about E-mail Protection Mail Safe Setting off? If that is what you're talking about thanks I just did it as I never download and run anything suspicious anyway. Plus I have Micro Trend PC-cillin running :) But, if that is not what you're talking about please tell me :) G Hope this helps. Anything helps and I can only thank you for your input as I see it was a feature I hardly used anyway. Thank you Gerard -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %ATTACHFILE Not Working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, MSH I have a quick template set-up for sending the files. It is the MSH following line in the template: MSH %ATTACHFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\MHyatt.CORPDOMAIN1\My MSH Documents\Websites\survivingterrorism.com\dlbin\tencommandments.pdf MSH However, when I attempt to use it, it doesn't appear that the files MSH are attached. I have to manually add it to the e-mail message. If you have enough space on your hard disk why not *copy* the .pdf direct into your mail folders? It'll probably be best to put it into a newly created *attachment* folder within your profile. IMHO, its how I do it because I am always organizing my HDD and moving things :( I hope you get it to work :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfeZtl3LB35+TCg0EQKhtgCfWqCOvXXEJWUO0AmMo8AHfkTxWCYAn3EB Z6VpW5tZFZp9s/odUWnykAKV =RdpZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: I think I got OpenPGP working but a few questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, TF Many PGP users provide links to either their homepage where you can TF download the key, or it is a mailto-link that will send a request mail TF to them, with the request being handled automatically by TB filter. PC I tried the mail filter to send my PGP key, but I wasn't able to follow PC the directions, and I never got it working. I really don't want to put PC up a web site to send it. Since PGP support is built-into TB, I wish PC they would add a filter into the FAQ pages that allows you to send your PC key ;) If your address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can try either of the following to help you out. I noticed its important to add the mailto: link or else :( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=My%20PGP%20Keys You'll get mail with the subject line My PGP Keys or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpbody=please%20send%20them You'll get an e-mail with the subject = pgp and the body will say = please send them Maybe that can help you filter them :) Also it might help to move that filter to the top or to the bottom but you'll have to experiment on it ;) I hope I helped - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPffUz13LB35+TCg0EQIkHACfQBQrCqYfM3QVSQXab/b4XipJ404AoJ5V nyiiL0cvM29K7iztjV4jH7Kh =5kOS -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Changing Font of Viewer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, MR I recently purchased a laptop and have set up The Bat! on it (no MR problems, by the way). Because the screen resolution is 1400x1050 the MR size of the text is very small. Forgive me but why not try 1024x768 or a resolution smaller than 1400x1050? You want your fonts bigger I understand but why not ease your eyes all around if it can help? I also own a notebook and have been dealing with them for a very long time now. 1400x1050 I can see fine on but unfortunately my notebook at the current moment has a resolution of 1024x768 but I have an extra monitor and and virtual desktop application to help expand my desktop. Its my workaround :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPffa5l3LB35+TCg0EQIR7wCg9imgl2j5lM4tp5ECcm1p/FigbzYAoN0Q DFAr9fpi/MfKlN74/fBjA21K =YkcS -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Deleted messages.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Francis, FXM I noticed that someone in my office deleted a bunch of messages out of FXM a common folder that is shared. FXM Is there a way to prohibit people from deleting, but allowing them to FXM view these messages? I could use Windows security, but this may not be FXM the way to go. Can you park messages in the common folder? Parking a message should help against accidental deletion otherwise if a message is important enough you should probably copy them into a folder in your account :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPffc4l3LB35+TCg0EQLKfwCgi2v7I3kUp4Wl5jVeMsp0rYFGH78AnRBt NDTiQRjZcoh3x2OaSAS86JL+ =xssg -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[3]: Trusted root certificate problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Subhi, SSH Is there a way to make The Bat accept this certificate (add the root) SSH or the certificate itself somehow? I just got a Comodo certificate thanks to Simon Blake and it took me about ten anguished minutes to install it. :| but it's in and was just tricky... Heres how I did it. In Internet Explorer I believe go to Tools Internet Options Content Certificates Under personal certificates select your issued certificate and click on export... I had to do this *twice* I'll explain. Just export them to the same folder. you'll be asked for a password somewhere just do not forget it At the first prompt select yes, export the private key. Leave the default radio button checked and check include all certificates + enable strong protection click next. The rest should be easy... Now do it again. Export no do not export private key and select next. Leave DER as default and hit next. Locate where you saved before and hit next. You're done with IE feel free to shut it down. Now in TB! go to account properties edit personal certificates import... Do not import any one individually import them both at the same time. Now double click your newly installed certificates and look at their profile. For all of them you'll do the same thing. Click add to address book and say OK. Go to your certification path and and highlight your parent certificate and click add to trusted. If its blanked out try the next certificate. Only one of them has to get added to the trusted source for all of them to work. I did it, it works and I am happy :) Thanks Simon Blake for getting me started :) Meyns As far as I understand, the certificate must be added to the Trusted Root Meyns CA address book. Probably via New -- Contact, like in the other address Meyns books. I haven't had the need to add a CA, yet, so it's only a guess... :-) Man it was hell for me trying to go that route but if it works for you or someone knows a trick let me know :) Good luck Subhi :) - - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Key: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPfflN13LB35+TCg0EQIc2QCfTmMs70EhZtcAqDs6TA/G2XwOoYMAoNpY m5VRtGD2E9XeLyPKWShXlZVo =DbaW -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
SOT: LDAP Vs POP3 What about PGP on XP?
Hello tbudl, What is the difference between LDAP Vs POP3? and why would you want to sign your messages with PGP? I heard The Bat! doesn't use PGP 8 and heard PGP 8 is the only compatible app to work with XP... If I wanted to use PGP I guess I would be out of luck huh? Just curious :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: About TB ON XP *freezing*
Hello Thomas, VBG It doesn't freeze unless I have the task manager open. What VBG happens is the system slows down to the point where if I were VBG to do a figure 8 with the mouse on the screen in one second the VBG system will still be doing that figure 8 for the next two VBG minutes. Yeah. Sounds like you're CPU resources are completely consumed by some errant process. TF I think so too. Now the question is to find out which process that is. Thank you Thomas. Even if I we're to figure out which process overwhelmed my system how would I go about preventing it from starting or stopping before or once it is in action? Thanks :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do you collect an IP address?
Hello tbudl, I would like to create a simple subscribe feature on my site. It is a simple mailto: link and all the user has to do is send a blank e-mail. The Bat! collects their first last name and e-mail address but can I somehow capture there IP address? I would like to send a single opt-in confirmation back to the subscriber that looks like this -- Thank you for subscribing. Important information follows. You or someone subscribed to stay up to date with us and did so from the following IP address *178.32.943.255* -- Any idea? Thank you -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F8 to selected address book
Hello Ochrid, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 5:31:20 AM, you wrote: O Hello all, O Is there a way to change the address book the F8 key activates? View Edit Shortcuts (Alt+F12) I think should do it. I hope it works :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SOT: LDAP Vs POP3 What about PGP on XP?
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 5:35:02 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Victor, RO On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:38:52 -0500GMT (9-12-02, 12:38 +0100GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: VBG What is the difference between LDAP Vs POP3? RO LDAP stands for Lightweight Directory Access Protocol... RO POP3 is short for Post Office Protocol (version 3)... RO POP3 is a server where you collect your e-mail and LDAP is a server RO for e-mail addresses... VBG and why would you want to sign your messages with PGP? RO For the same reason that you put your signature under a typed letter, RO to prove it's yours. VBG I heard The Bat! doesn't use PGP 8 and heard PGP 8 is the only VBG compatible app to work with XP... RO Dunno. Thank you Roelof, the information you've given me is like right out of a FAQs index. Perfect, as I do not think anyone could probably have explained it any better :) I would like to prove with a signature like PGP that it is me that sends out broadcast to my members... How do I implement such a feature? If PGP 8 is out of the question then where should I begin to look for such services? What exactly is a service like that called? (TB been *freezing* bad on me so before I go out trying to get something to work I would like some insight on it) Thank you again Roelof, and any light any one can shed on the subject would be beneficial :) -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you collect an IP address?
Hello Roelof, VBG The Bat! collects their first last name and e-mail address but VBG can I somehow capture there IP address? RO Though it's possible to extract an ip-address from their headers with RO regexp, it's impossible (I think) to extract the last ip-address (when RO reading top down) from the headers, ... you don't want the last one RO when it's an address from one of the local ranges. RO The only possibility would be to hand over the headers to a program or RO script that extracts the ip-address of origin and hands that back to RO TB. If the need would arise that's the way I should advance. Thank you for the info. Of course it's not what I wish to have heard :) The Bat! is so good Vs. other clients and so robust that I think it should just do more... I never thought about mail like this before using OE, Foxmail, hotmail and Mozilla's client. Being introduced it to it I feel like it should be washing my clothes, cooking my food and baby sitting my daughter. :) It's an amazing client but the second I think of something trying to get ahead of it all it's not even implemented :( sheesh... Any Ideas on extracting the senders IP address and somehow putting it into context in an automatic reply back would be very accepted. (Roelof you are the man though :) Thank you very much -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How do you collect an IP address?
Hello Miguel, The Bat! collects their first last name and e-mail address but can I somehow capture there IP address? MAU you should not worry about the IP address because it is MAU not meaningful. I thought it was a good way to track a PCs location to help at least prove it wasn't someone else that subscribed :| MAU If a user has a dial-up connection, or sends mail MAU or connects to Internet from a any place, his IP address would be MAU different to his normal one I completely understand this one but I also thought that along with a time stamp I'll at least be able to cover my butt in an argument. MAU What counts is the e-mail address... If his e-mail was spoofed MAU and he did not send the request, he will not confirm it. This is probably where the problem lies. I wish to make the operation in-house and single opt-in. I was just hoping that in the case no one can say they didn't opt-in for my broadcast. I do not wish to ever get caught up with spamming or spam related tactics, etc. Would then a pre configured subject line without modification like the following help in covering my butt? ?subject=subscribe_me_in_for_single_opt-in_broadcasting I work with opinions :) Thank you Miguel -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
