Re: RSS feeds
> I tried to create them as part of an existing mail-account where they would > fit > contentually. I see. Your point is taken - RSS folders are normal local folders, so there should be a way to move them around and keep under other locally stored folders, not just under the "RSS Subscriptions". Wish added :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs SRL Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RSS feeds
Hello Gunivortus, > how can I add RSS feeds into The Bat (9 or 10) and have them each its own > folder? What do you mean? Each RSS is stored in its own folder currently... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ Ritlabs SRL Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Processing Folders" box is running every morning
MAPI 64-bit]; Path: C:\The Bat!\tbmapi64.dll (valid)MAPI #2: [Windows Mail]; Path: (not valid)Default Profile: Address: 777BD196ClassName: EAccessViolationMessage: Access violation at address 777BD196 in module 'ntdll.dll'. Write of address 0018IsOSException: 1Modules: 7779 20200103033527 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0040 20220629110406 C:\The Bat!\TheBat64.exe HELP please, I love TB! but she's trying my patience now :) -- Chris Wilson "Using The Bat! v10.1 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1" -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov -- Best regards,Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Processing Folders" box is running every morning
Hello Chris, Thursday, July 14, 2022, 1:17:18 PM, you wrote: > Hello everyone, > On Monday, June 27, 2022, you wrote: >> 27 June 2022 >> Hi all, I have an issue with my new V10 TB! Nearly every morning I find The >> Bat! has a box up saying it's processing folders. I can't cancel nor close >> it, other than using the Windows 7 64 bit Task Manager. It's progress bar >> never shows anything as happening. >> If I try running all options in the Maintenance Centre manually then, apart >> from some options showing in a corrupted font when running, it finishes all >> tasks OK. >> Anyone know why TB! is taking it upon itself to maintain folders or whatever >> it's trying to overnight without being asked to? >> Thanks. > This is now becoming intolerable and unless I can find a fix I have to choose > between an earlier TB, and lose full access to GMAIL, or keep the current one > and have it lock up every time I close the Windows Remote DEesktop > cconnection to the remote Windows 7 PC it is running on. > I suspect a file or something from my previous legacy version is lurking > somewhere and effecting things. Some options show as corrupted fonts when I > manually run the Maintenance Centre, and one option, run on its own, locks up > TB completely, never completes its task and needs Task Manager to kill it. > I have never come across any application run remotely that "knows" the remote > connection has been closed and takes it upon itself to "do thing". How can > this occur and are there any logging options to help find the cause please? > Below is an excerpt from one log I found, the ex_log.txt log: > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:24.400 StartupMgr:FinalizeTBXProps > EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0041B852 in module > 'TheBat64.exe'. Read of address > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:24.407 MainForm:SecondAct EAccessViolation > Access violation at address 0041B852 in module 'TheBat64.exe'. Read > of address > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:52.223 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:53.615 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:53.885 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:07:54.867 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:08:11.974 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:13:00.988 UpdateHelper:OnZipProgress > Exception DownLoadTaskError: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/main64-10.1.zip > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:22:39.078 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:22:40.191 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:22:40.568 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:22:42.602 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:22:58.938 UpdateHelper:Unzip EFCreateError > Cannot create file "C:\Users\Chris Wilson\AppData\Local\The Bat!\DelMsi.lst". > The system cannot find the path specified > v10.0.10 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:41:22.199 UpdateHelper:OnZipProgress > Exception DownLoadTaskError: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/main64-10.1.zip > v10.1 64-bit / 13/07/2022 23:57:05.292 MainForm:CheckTimerTimer > EAccessViolation Access violation at address 777BD196 in module > 'ntdll.dll'. Write of address 0018 > and from the exceptions log, another excerpt: > Date: 13 Jul 2022 23:57:05 > OS: Windows 7 Professional SP1 X64 (AMD or Intel) build 7601 > PhysMemFreeTotal: 12281/16265 MB > VirtMemFreeTotal: 8355208/8388607 MB > MAPI #0: The Bat! [The Bat!]; Path: C:\The Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (not valid) > MAPI #1: The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit [The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit]; Path: >
Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account
Hello Luca, Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote: > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work. Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to operate manually - it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder as Message.TBB and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. The only problem that could occur is absence of downloaded message body or attachments... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Photos no longer appearing
Hello Jack, Friday, May 20, 2022, 2:30:14 AM, you wrote: > If you could scroll down past the big blue bar you used to > see pictures of today's mail. It no longer displays the pictures >From what I see, the problem could be because the image file names do not >contain extensions or because they use in some non-standard image format. If the message doesn't contain any sensitive data, please forward the message to me directly, so we can see what's wrong with it. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ RITLABS SRL http://www.ritlabs.com Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is my legacy TB! version usable with the upcoming Google security changes please?
Hello Chris, > Good afternoon all, today I received this message from Google. I use an > elderly version of The Bat! and need to know if I can still use it when > Google implement these security changes, as I have one GMAIL account I use > TB! for, thanks. I am using v5.8.10 on Windows 7 64 bit Pro. Is such an > elderly version still painlessly upgradeable to the current one if required? IIRC, first version The Bat! with Google OAUTH support was 7.x, so your version is too old and you will have to upgrade. With v10 released yesterday, Ritlabs is offering 50% discount from the full price for upgrade from versions prior to 9.0, the upgrade process must be painless as the only thing is needed is just installation of the new version (it is always recommended to have a backup, of course). -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disable periodic checking for all accounts
Hello Adrian, Saturday, February 19, 2022, 8:12:57 PM, you wrote: > Is there a way to disable periodic checking for all e-mail accounts in TheBat > Version 9 without starting the program? Do you mean you want some kind of an external configurator? Why do you need it anyway? :) To disable periodical checking while The Bat! is running, you can use "Options|Work offline". If it's a fresh installation, you can create a "dummy" account (with a fake address), switch into offline mode and then restore from your backup. But it's a valid point you're making here... :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RFC-Headers
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 3:00:49 AM, you wrote: > I could not find another way to show the headers in TB!. Any hints? Ctrl+Shift+K was available long before F9 :-) Additionally, you may want to redefine hotkey for the "View source" command in the customization dialog -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: stopping automatic copyright symbol with a "c" enclosed in parentheses
Hello Avram, Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:15:00 AM, you wrote: > I frequently type legal references to all sorts of rules, statutes, etc., and > the text, "(c)" is not infrequent. Currently, the only way I can accomplish > this is by leaving a space between the "c" and the close parenthesis, and > then later deleting the space. There must be a better way. Can this > automatic feature be disabled? It cannot be disabled right now as it's currently hard-coded, but we will make it optional/configurable soon. Before that, you can create a quick template for inserting the text and give it a short handle (e.g. "c" - a single character). Then, you'll just need to type the handle and press Ctrl+Space -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager default app
Hello Gunivortus, Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:05:29 PM, you wrote: > how can I get Voyager rhe default mailclient at my tablet? > It is not in the list of possible choices. Voyager cannot be set as the default email client using a conventional way because it's not installed as it's required. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: editor toolbars
Hello Ml-response, Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 11:30:02 AM, you wrote: > I can switch them off by right-clicking in the toolbar and deselecting them, > but they are back the next time I open the editor again. You should switch the "Display HTML formatting toolbars in plain text mode" option off at the HTML Editor page. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search function
Hello Jack, > I am completely flummoxed by the search function. It does not seem to make any > sense and although it seems to be intuitive, apparently it isn't. I've just executed a search for your "lwv" string and found your message, just as I expected. So, it could be something related to your setup. Generally speaking, search function could be tricky especially when it comes to its support on various IMAP servers, so YMMV. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting office: delete block
Hello Jernej,
> OK, my problem is that the block is the first thing in the list, so it
> doesn't have a related operator.
I wonder how did you manage to put it on the top :)
Then, you still can just edit it manually as text if it's too difficult to
recreate it - copy filter in the Sorting Office and paste it into a text
editor, you will see text like this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [D5E1442A.01D6CCA1.6BAEB230.47D2BEF4]
Name: New\20filter
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`24`0`0`20201210T22Z\0D\0A{0\0D\0A}\0D\0A}
IsActive
IsHotkey
IsHotkeyOnly
Ignore
endFilter
In the "Filter" line, the "{0\0D\0A}" (the second character may vary from 0 to
3) sequence stands for that empty block you want to delete. Just delete it,
copy the text and paste it into Sorting Office as a new filter.
--
Best regards,
Stefan Tanurkov
Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting office: delete block
Hello Jernej, > I added a block by accident in one of my Sorting office filters - how do I > delete it? I can delete everything inside the block, but the block itself > remains (and if I close and re-open the sorting office, it usually contains > "Sender contains" filter with empty text, which then matches every message). You can delete block when the related AND/OR selector is selected -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
9.3.1
Hello All, Service release 9.3.1 is now available from https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Here are the changes since 9.3.0.2: [*] Single Spaces between qutation marks are now ignored [-] Colors in the Message List Tab settings could be displayed black on black [-] Quoted text background in outgoing HTML messages depended on the current theme [-] Fix folder refiltering dialog painting problems when a custom theme is selected [-] Fix the "blank space after restore" problem in the main window [-] Fix error when using Utilities | Create Quick Template in the editor -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ RITLABS SRL http://www.ritlabs.com pgplzc03klLZ8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter / Folder Question
Hello Jody, Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 4:23:43 AM, you wrote: > Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. Presumably, you are talking about IMAP folders in your scenario, then the answer is yes - you can do it with incoming filters assigned to specific folders, select "Any message" or whatever condition you need and add the "mark as read" action to the filter. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail Shortcuts
Hello Paul, > I should have said that I have tried to customize the keyboard shortcuts > using the customized tool. However this doesn't work very well because if I > assign say A to 'reply all' when I press A within the email editor, as I'm > typing a word TB launches a new window. It doesn't seem to understand the > context well. Any tips? Here are the main ones: 1. Main Window's main menu shortcuts can be used from other windows, so you should be careful assigning shortcuts to there. 2. Single-character shortcuts should not be used in main menus of any window as they will intercept those characters from input controls, so it is recommended to use them in local menus of lists or those controls that are not using text input. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to change the background color of the Tree with the account folders?
Hello Susanne, Thursday, November 19, 2020, 2:25:18 AM, you wrote: > I can change it in the message viewer, but can't find where to change the > background of the various parts of the window otherwise (if possible). Go to Options | Preferences - Message List - Color Groups and edit the Generic Group changing its background color for normal state. It's very strange you have that freezing for non-classic themes. What is your hardware (CPU and RAM)? Do you use 64-bit or 32-bit version of The Bat! ? -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Site dowload speed
Hello All, We're trying to solve the slow download issue which seems to happen to some users. Those who experienced the download speed issue as well as those who still haven't updated to the 9.2.3 release, could you please check what is the download speed of the packages and what are the actual URL stated in the browser's download list? Thank you! 32 bit: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-3.msi 64 bit: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-3.msi -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov CEO @ RITLABS SRL http://www.ritlabs.com pgpXyc_JNd6Ny.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash when using "Open reply" on sent e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Andrew, > 3. TheBat! crashes instantly without producing an error message / etc. Fixed for the next Beta, thank you! :-) - -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEARYIAB0WIQQo9xg+jmSIDoP2QHksuDTcSnBdwwUCX04gEgAKCRAsuDTcSnBd w7PyAQDAw6Uk8pS1tWVvudDyxoep6m5AHOMNBr/74nh8f9jCxAD+P4kbyruEmxTs RTYZLb9s0hfpb73aoGtz/mCiFfXeSAM= =G5Ac -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to restore a previous TB installation from a full copy of TB folder
Hello Luca, Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 7:49:47 PM, you wrote: > Unfortunately I don't have a backup file made from inside TB, but I have a > full copy of my previous The Bat! folder. After a Windows 10 restore, I need > to reinstall TB. How can I fully recover my previous installation? Once you point to a copy of your mail folder on the first run of The Bat! you should be prompted with a list of the accounts found in the folder, so just select the accounts you wish to work with and that's it :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "To" address line is being over-written while editing
Hello Andrew, Sunday, August 2, 2020, 9:31:46 AM, you wrote: > 1st one is the helpful feature while the 2nd one is the hostile behaviour. There are two options for address list headers for exactly these two scenarios :-) I would agree that the "autocomplete" option works too aggressive and we should consider to remove it, at least as the default behaviour. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "To" address line is being over-written while editing
Hello Andrew, Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:39:03 PM, you wrote: > 4. TB silently replaces your edit with one from the address book > Work-around: type address in a text editor and paste into TB field... Actually, you can adjust it in the preferences - Viewer/Editor - Header fields - To/CC/BCC - Complete automatically... -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v 9.2.2?
Hello Andrew, Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 1:54:53 PM, you wrote: >> Is the toolbar customization problem fixed? > No. Well, it's not 100% correct - most of the problems were fixed for sure as I was experiencing them before the release and do not see them after the release. :-) -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Collapse all threads
Hello Andrew, Saturday, July 4, 2020, 6:01:18 AM, you wrote: > Surely there is a button to collapse all threads... Somewhere. I have > used "menu navigator", but so far was unable to find one. Any hints? Use Ctrl+Shift+ Plus to expand all threads and Ctrl+Shift+Minus to collapse all threads, Asterisk toggles the expanded state of all threads. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v9.2.1
Dear All, Just wanted to let you know that version 9.2.1 is now officially available :-) https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_32_9-2-1.msi https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_64_9-2-1.msi What's new in The Bat! v9.2.1 since v9.1.18 released on April 22, 2020? [!] Toolbars library is reverted to Toolbar 2000 components (GUI became much faster) [!] HTML rendering engine is set to solely Chromium (CEF library v83.3) [+] Offline Mode (menu item "Options\Work Offline") and detection of the absence of the Internet connection to avoid useless mailbox checking attempts [+] Automatically generated colors are used for different email addresses in the Summary View [*] Message List and Folder Tree Tabs can be handled using the mouse wheel (scrolling, pressing and tilting) [*] Changes in message's memo are automatically saved [*] By default the newly created IMAP folders are added to the Mail Ticker's watch list [*] Messages with the empty "To:" fields are saved as draft instead of trying to send them [*] Changes in the appearance of the items in the message list and account/folder tree view [*] Added the option for the "old style" tree views and row density under "Options\Preferences\Other options" [*] Loading of the external media for HTML messages (to be extended) can be configured under the menu "Options\Preferences\Viewer/Editor\HTML Viewer" [*] (#0002014) Better automatic recognition of URLs with matching brackets [*] (#0002017) The "Select/Deselect" buttons for folders have been reorganized in the Message Finder (F7) window [*] Changes in the program's default layout for the first time run [-] Applying the left alignment by Alt+L in the MicroEd plain text editor called out the system's warning sound [-] The Escape key did not close the Address Book window [-] Quick Search was not activated by typing in the message list [-] HTML viewer popup menu was improperly positioned on high DPI [-] SmartSpace Reading is now working in any kind of text viewer [-] (#0001761) The issue which caused cascading error messages when replying to a message still being downloaded has been resolved [-] (#0001832) Inactive Internal PGP implementation was displayed in the list of available PGP engines [-] (#0001837) An Access Violation error message appeared in the Address History after deselecting folders for scanning [-] (#0001844) On the profile layout settings page the text was not displayed until a profile was manually selected [-] (#0001934) Buttons on the preview pane's header were too wide [-] (#0001961) Memo Autoview visibility is now maintained between sessions [-] (#0001967) Memo editor does not close when repeatedly pressing Shift+Ctrl+I [-] (#0002006) Message list tabs were not restored from Backup [-] (#0002021) Icons of the program's additional windows were not displayed [-] (#0002025) Unnecessarily deep nesting for the "Format\...\" color settings in the message editor has been eliminated [-] OAuth 2.0 authentication was not working for Mail.Ru [-] No default address book was created on the first start of the program [-] Superfluous empty spaces in the main window of the program appeared after restoring the data from the Home directory [-] Checkboxes on accounts' selection on restoring from Home folder were missing [-] The window for "Create New Account" appeared in the background and wasn't noticeable to the user -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail
Hello Jon, JP Thanks for replying. No, they are not set to manual. The funny thing JP is that when I restore the account.srb files (I have several accounts) JP from version 3.99, the filters all work automatically. I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the other one after modification). Could you please send them to me privately? -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List index out of bounds (-1)
Hello Marten, MG List index out of bounds (-1) Nobody would tell you unless you specify the context ;-) -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail
Hello Jon, JP I had a number of filters which automatically sort incoming mail JP to different folders. The filters worked perfectly until some JP time after v4.0.x. Could you please check whether those filters have the Manual Only flag set? -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Counting messages
Hello Nick, ND Obviously there's no direct way to do it, but can anyone think of some ND nice lateral solution? When you select several messages, you can hover over the message list and read the hint... -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB
Hello Peter, We are going to rework IMAP part as we now have more experience with using IMAP in real world, so working with it must become smoother and more predictable. PF When? Right after the upcoming release, the new index format will be introduced, it's a necessity for better IMAP, then IMAP will be reworked. So, we are talking about two-three weeks to start. -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB
Hello Bob, BR Under Manage IMAP Folders, I have most folders (except for trash, BR junk email and All mail) synchronizing set at full messages. I BR don't have junk email and All mail synchronizing at all. Trash is set BR at headers only. Does that sound all right for good use of TB? No, it's not good, if you are always on-line. See my message to Robin for notes about synchronisation. To put in short (sorry, I don't have much time because I'm on a short vacation now, so I'm trying to catch some rest :-), no wonder you have to wait before your messages load - The Bat! should finish the syncrhonisation tasks first. The best way to use IMAP on a DSL connection is just to switch any synchronisation off and read IMAP folders just like they are normal folders. Having said that, I bear in mind that there are some problems for us to solve. We are going to rework IMAP part as we now have more experience with using IMAP in real world, so working with it must become smoother and more predictable. -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB
Hello Robin, RA Hmm, I don't think that I really understand what synchronising and RA subscribing mean in relation to IMAP. Can you explain it, or point to a web RA resource that does So IMAP subscription defines the set of folders (mailboxes in IMAP terms) you want to read often. For example, your company's IMAP server provides access to numerous shared folders available, but you need to check only some of them, so you subscribe to your personal folders and those several shared folders you are going to read. Synchronisation is a bit more tricky. Basically, The Bat! always synchronises message headers in the folders you visit, so if you have a speedy and permanent connection, you don't need to use any explicit synchronisation, it will actually slow down your work because synchronisation is a relatively slow process which blocks other operations (such a reading, copying, moving, setting flags etc) until it finishes. But in some cases you may want to have local copies of some folders with full messages or you get offline often, in this case synchronisation helps you to download data before you go offline by one click while you are shaving, having breakfast or choosing a tie (but not when you wish to read some emails right now). -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail and TB, virus checking problem
Hello Susanne, S I'm downloading my gmail with TB and run ESET S anti-virus. S It seems, gmail can't be checked for viruses in TB S and I'm getting a lot of error messages. That's because GMail uses TLS (secured) connection so anti-virus cannot intercept the data seamlessly. You should either find a way to configure anti-virus to serve as a proxy or use another anti-virus program with a plug-in for The Bat! -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move message on exit
Hello Jack, JSL Wow. Logically you'd have thought that would've worked... but it JSL doesn't. Thanks for trying though. Actually, everything works as it should, the trick is to read settings carefully. :-) When you click the Trash icon, the normal deletion is used. When you purge messages, the alternative deletion is used by default. If you want both actions to have the same effect, you should uncheck the Use alternative deletion for purge option at the Deletion page and configure the normal deletion to move messages to the archive folder. -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Inbox Synchronization in IMAP with TB
Hello Bob, BR In short, so far I think Evolution is easier to set up for IMAP, and BR the best settings seem to be built in as default. In TB, the settings BR require more fine-tuning, and I am asking this list if there is a setting BR in TB that will allow me to read new incoming messages when I first BR select them? If you don't do any fine-tune, you should get TB! working good and fast with GMail's IMAP. At least, it works this way here. Synchronisation settings should be used only if you want to stay offline for a while or want TB! to prefetch some data before you start reading it. Generally, I would not recommend any synchronisation if you have almost permanent connection to the Net. -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office question
Hello Tim, TM Here is where it gets interesting! The SubFilter to move the message TM is not set to Continue processing with other filters, but it does TM continue processing the other filters! The Continue... option works only for a single level. If you want to stop after a sub-filter was triggered, you should create a post-processing filter that check user parameters (and set those parameters by the stop-filters). -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accessing the alternate addresses
Hello Nick, ND Is there some way to access the additional addresses you may have for ND someone listed in their contact info? If you right click on an entry with multiple addresses, you should see extended menu with addresses of the entry... -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New, Reply Format
Hello James, JO Using that dialog, you should be able to change the signature's JO formatting, from the font face, size, modifiers (bold/italic), and JO foreground/background colors. Well, I don't think formatting is the right word if you want to avoid confusion here... To be more exact, it is the way how plain text messages are *displayed* that can be changed. Meanwhile, the format used remains the same (plain text). -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Gerard, G The bat will show that and not show the attachment. You can see G this because the formatting is missing in the plain text part. So, you mean you want The Bat! to show rich text part? -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello Gerard, G I just installed 4.0.11 and sailed to a folder full of these G attachments only to find I still cant do anything with them in TB. The Bat! should be able to look into the WINMAIL.DAT when a messages is loaded and extract attachments from there. If you don't see any attachment but WINMAIL.DAT itself and you are sure it contains some other parts, please submit such a message to bugtrack so we can see what is wrong with it... -- Best regards, Stefan Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POPFile header to re-classify no longer works
Hello Marten, single, double, triple, quadruple, quintuple, sextuple, heptuple, octuple... It won't help unless you upgrade your copy from 3.62.09... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.62.09 is now available
Hello All, 3.62.09 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi Here is a change log since 3.62.07 which was available from the site before the .09 build: [-] (#0005144) UUEncoded attachments were corrupted if they were encoded using space characters instead of ` [-] New messages were not added into threads in Reference+Subject threading mode [*] Dealing with spaces in wrapped/encoded message headers should be better now [-] (#0003186) PGP/MIME encrypted messages were not decrypted if their encrypted parts had file names assigned and stored in attachment directory [-] (#0005255) List index of bounds error when changing message format in editor when the active account had empty template [-] (#0005232) redundant error message when saving attachments [-] (#0005265) Colons were missing in many header names [-] (#0005011) Message status was not available to screen readers [-] (#0004939) Ordinary user mode: It was possible to select non-logged accounts in editor [-] (#0004938) Ordinary user mode: It was possible to select non-logged accounts for send/receive [-] Alt clicking in message list was selecting whatever message appeared under mouse cursor when the mouse button was released [+] POP URL is now stated in the notification about a large message arrived into POP mailbox [-] (#0005274) it was not possible to reformat paragraphs in MicroEd after switching from HTML editor mode [*] Double clicks on the message header control now open links and add addresses to the Address Book, as in versions prior to 3.5 [-] (#0005276) Cannot restore backup if files are exist (got AV) [-] There were a bug in previous betas with S/MIME decryption. [-] (#0005264) Button Unselect all in Check for viruses dialog is not displayed whole -- Best regards, Stefan ...To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer. - anonymous Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Submission Forms?
Hello MFPA, The theory is clear but how do you actually add/use a submission forms template? The forms in version 3.5 were significantly changed. The new forms work only with certificates (yet - PGP will be supported in the next release) and they are in HTML format now. To create a new form: 1. Prepare HTML form in any HTML editor capable to create/edit forms. 2. Use the Options|Submission Forms menu command 3. Click Add 4. Choose the form name and the file it will be stored in (you may use the Browse button) 5. Click the Load button and select the HTML form you've prepared. 6. Configure the form parameters and save the form. Well, the new form system is quite cryptic in some aspects, but it's now possible to create and maintain forms more easily. -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Marck, That one's in the oven ;-). Stefan says he's added the function and really likes it. It will be in with the next beta series. Actually, Stefan says it will be available in 3.5 post-release :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Threading
Hello Steve, Where would we download this version? Is that the beta version or the current live download? It supposed to be available this Monday, but we ain't finished with fixes yet, so I suppose, the version will become available by the end of this week as a post-release. -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcut to copy Message ID?
Hello Ralph, can someone tell me the shortcut to copy the message ID from the selected message to the clipboard? Try Ctrl+Ins while you're in the message list :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello Vili, One request, and please take this seriously: this feature should be able to be switched on and off. I made a quick poll on Hungarian users, ca. 50 % said it is a very good feature, the other half said that it would disturb them. Count me in the other half :-) That's why it's not implemented yet and that's why it will be optional... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Shortcut to copy Message ID?
Hello Ralph, This is what i get then: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]from=Stefan%20Tanurkovfolder=\xxxsubject=Re:%20Shortcut%20to%20copy%20Message%20ID?date=20050518152017size=2847uid=473 where xxx is the complete path to my IMAP folder. Such URLs are used in TB! internally for making links to messages in scheduler and the Log file, you may easily make a mid URL out of it :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 3.5: View | Toolbars | Customization Bug and Missing Items
Hello Bill, If there was significant testing of the keyboard shortcuts, then either the testers missed some obvious flaws or Ritlabs ignored their suggestions. The problem was not missing or being ignored. The problem is with the difference in the architecture between the old interface and the new one. I won't go into depth, though. I'm sincerely sorry that the customised shortcuts from older versions were lost and I miss them too. We are still thinking of the elegant way to make the shortcut system at least not worse than it was before, but it takes time to find a viable solution... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: Threading
Hello Steve, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 10:20:48 PM, you wrote: I do not see List Column under the Message dialog. It's in the View|Message List Columns -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello ms, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 11:11:18 PM, you wrote: Does anybody know what the item undelete (found in Customise dialog, branch MessageListViewer in the left pane) is used for? Currently, it's used only in the browser of deleted messages. It is possible, we will make it possible to browse deleted messages in normal message lists (i.e. in main window and separate folder browser) together with alive messages. :-) -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Undelete? Used for...?
Hello Martin, Does this mean that deleted messages will be visible in the main window and identified by strikeout text? Yes, something like this... -- Best regards, Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customised shortcuts working where they shouldn't.
Hello Allie, AM Unfortunately, this shortcut works when the editor is in focus. I AM assigned the shortcut as N, and now in the editor, I can't type 'n' AM when editing. This is normal behaviour - it's very much like the previous versions. The menu of the main window is considered as global and it handles all keystrokes that were not handled by menus of the currently active window. Therefore, single-character shortcuts should not be used in the main window menus, such shortcuts should be defined in pop-up menus of window panes. -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Threading
Hello Steve, SL The way we did it in VA (sorry to keep bringing that up) was to always SL have the threads opened by default This can be done by change message list column settings. SL Unlike in The Bat! and Outlook, the messages in VA never changed SL status from unread to read in x seconds while reading. Instead, SL hitting the return key to move to the next message marked it as SL unread. Thank you for pointing to this. We already have a possibility to read messages using the Space key. I've added two more options to space bar reading today: to move to the next unread message (requested before) and to mark message as read when taking off the current message. Also, a new action SmartSpace reading is added, so it's possible to add the action to the local menu of message list, preview and/or folder tree and define another hot-key (like Enter). -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.5 bug in sorting office?
Hello djb, d If I have TRASH ticked in one filter, then switch to a filter d immediately above or below which has just the INBOX checked, the TRASH d remains checked also. Fixed, thank you! -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Richard, ST I've added two more options to space bar ST reading today: to move to the next unread message (requested before) ST and to mark message as read when taking off the current message. RW Hooray! thanks a lot for that. No problem. I'm starting to think that I'm getting addicted to the lil' thingy after using it for a couple of hours... Wonder why I haven't implemented it before... :-)) Anyway, it will become available in the quick fix release this Monday night. -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Threading
Hello Steve, SL Is there are away to automatically open any threads with unread SL messages to save having to click one's way down the chain? Funny enough, I was talking about the same thing a couple of days ago. Basically, it's not a problem to expand threads automatically to make unread messages visible, but for massive threads like we have in TB! lists, it would jam screen with the same thread making neighbour threads with unread messages out of the screen. If you're using keyboard most of time, Ctrl+Left/Right would be better (Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right in preview pane). Mouse: in 3.5, you can create a floating toolbar with navigation buttons (hmm... I guess, we should ask our artist to create glyphs for moving to unread messsages). I'm using MS mices on two of my PCs, so I defined additional mouse buttons to move to the next unread message and to move back to previously viewed. -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Issues
Hello Ian, Saturday, May 14, 2005, 4:26:02 AM, you wrote: IAW It is a pity that things like this get changed. I realise that there IAW has been a major rewrite, but the previous behaviour was there for IAW many versions and I cannot recall anyone asking for it to be changed. Well, the problem is not with necessity to change the old way of presenting favourites, but with timing... The old way of presenting favourites will be back for sure :-) -- Cheers! Stefan Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 2.11.03 Really Slow on POP Retrieval
Hello Alex, AE So, now my search is on for a Bat-compatible anti-virus. KAV used AE to work so well with it. You should try to disable proxy in KAV and use the AVP plug-in supplied in TB!. However, the latest version of AVP comes with a broken version of plug-in, you may need to search archives for an updated version of KLAV plug-in - the problem has been discussed here some times AFAIR... -- Cheers! Stefan pgpnAknOTpGGw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Hello DW, Monday, June 7, 2004, 11:58:56 PM, you wrote: DS Any ideas on how to repair this folder's message base? The TBB file DS is 528k, but I haven't put any limits on the number of messages that DS can be stored in this folder... nor have I ever purged it. Try to delete the .TBI file - it seems like it's damaged... -- Cheers! Stefan pgpquO3wyf9p5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 2.11 consume all CPU resources
Hello Simon, Things that come to mind and are worth checking: - folder compression, especially for the Inbox and Outbox. SM I've run the compleate maintenence on all folders in all accounts - it SM only recovered some disc space, but did nothing to the CPU problems. Did you try to check integrity of all your folders? Do you have any Virtual Folders? SM I think it is a regular bug, and not just the usual errors in the SM mailbox files. No, it's not a regular bug because regular bugs are easily reproduced on other systems. :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp38fqBb9Yb6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Unequal gaps
Hello Jack, A note to moderators: I hope I won't go too far in abusing my special status in this list by this post-DH posting. JM People like me (easily annoyed aesthetes) just want them to be JM beautiful...like the lines of just about any Ferrari ever made. Jack, I don't like design of most of Ferrari models, actually. But - if you are talking about 3D look of separators in The Bat! windows, I suggest you to switch your WinXP theme to Windows Classic. Thomas, in my short passage, I've explained implicitly why I don't want the gaps to be of equal width (because it would be confusing). Please feel free to comment this message off-the-list -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail Dispatcher font (Was: Unequal gaps)
Hello Mary, MB Could I ask you for some help in another screen appearance issue? Is MB there a way I could have my fonts larger in the Message Dispatcher? Done - from now on, MD uses the same font used for message lists. :-) Tomorrow (March, 8) is the International Women's Day accordingly to USSR calendar. This is the second most celebrated holiday on the most of former USSR territory after New Year. So, please take it as my present for that day. :-) Also, my congratulations to all women participating in TBUDL! MB I was wondering if we could have a Zoom feature on a menu like in MB Opera, but just for dialogue boxes. This requires more fiddling with code, but I've added it to the To-Do list. MB You've done a great job to this point, and I give you a 100 per cent MB approval rating! [Bow] Thank you! There still is a lot of things to learn, but it's good to receive good marks in the middle |-) MB Also, thanks again for your patient help when I was so upset with my MB first download of TB!, You are always welcome! But... was it me helping you or Maxim and Marck? I'm a bit puzzled here because I could find your messages on our support board, but could not find my replies for some reason... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unequal gaps
Hello Jack, Friday, March 5, 2004, 9:11:40 PM, you wrote: JM Is it possible for the nice folks at Ritlabs to do something about the JM differences in the gaps that separate the various information panels? JM It's annoying. It would be more annoying to have separators thinner because many people will have problems positioning the mouse pointer in order to drag them :-) Making thinner gaps wider would be confusing because it would create illusion that those gaps are separators too. Adding lines (bevels) to separators would make (presently quite clean) look cluttered... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB IMAP kills (SmartMax) IMAP server
Hello Peter, Thursday, March 4, 2004, 3:13:37 PM, you wrote: PF S: !! Socket status: 10060 PF What is this error? It's a timeout. I guess, the server tries to check up a folder or something like that and it takes more than 1 minute to answer for some reason... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same
Hello Greg, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 5:03:20 PM, you wrote: GS If you have global view modes off and are using individual view modes GS for folders which have been set from the main window when you go into GS Options | Preferences | Messages | View Modes | select VM (one which you GS are using on a folder) | click Use by Now look at the folder GS where you know you are using that particular view mode and you will see GS it is NOT selected. It may be selected, but what if you uncheck a box? It's not quite clear what to do... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View Modes choices Not same
Hello MAU, Friday, February 27, 2004, 2:52:31 AM, you wrote: M If I uncheck a box I would expect the corresponding folder to be set to M (no view mode). Why not? No view mode means using some column settings anyway. Which one should be used? Is it account-wide, folder-specific or parent folder's? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: View all affiliated messages?
Hello mm, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 4:01:55 AM, you wrote: mM Was there once a method to view a group of messages which are mM related to one another - all together in a pane - such as: Message mM 1, replies to message 1, who was forwarded message 1, or one of the mM replies to any of the replies to message 1. Clear as mud? Yes. :-) Currently, you can search for reply to (or forward of) the selected message by using the Specials|Open reply menu command or using Ctrl+Backspace shortcut if the message list is active. However, there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. Also, there is no way to see the entire thread by using this function... I guess, it's another feature to be added to the wish list :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: View all affiliated messages?
Hello Allie, AM What if the message has multiple replies or forwards? That's what I meant by However, there is a problem if a message was both replied and forwarded. ;-)) We'll seek for a more viable solution while we're building the new Virtual Folders architecture... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4
Hello Mark, Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:23:46 PM, you wrote: M Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The M Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the M Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then M a crash). How do I get back to the old version! You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7 solves the problem with moving to 2.04 from versions earlier than 2.02. It's now available from TB! official home page -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Are releases secret ?
Hello Ken, Friday, February 20, 2004, 8:19:25 PM, you wrote: KS I assumed that a) I would get an e-mail as a registered user, and b) KS there would be a post to this list, but so far neither... The most usual practice for us at Ritlabs is to give some time for downloading newly released version, make sure everything is alright with it and then (sometimes, after some post-release builds) send announcements to all subscribers. By that time, people at TBUDL are usually notified about new release by fellow TBUDLers :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search problem
Hello ken, Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 10:59:59 PM, you wrote: kg No kidding.. Thanks for the info! I use the space bar as well, and kg would hate that I couldn't scroll back up a message (Shift+Space) to kg scroll up. I can live with Alt+arrow :) Alt+PgUp will work for you ;-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Dispatcher defaults (again)
Hello Stan, Saturday, February 7, 2004, 8:09:56 PM, you wrote: SR But I question the interface engineering of the Read flag. There SR shouldn't be any default behavior expressed as an option that SR can't be changed by the user. It actually can be changed - by using Selective Download filters. If you select Ignore as the action of an SD filter, the Read flag won't be set... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Wayne, Friday, February 6, 2004, 1:30:19 AM, you wrote: WH Such as? I have tried all of the settings available with my mouse WH drivers and also several version of the drivers. thanks! Well, it completely depends on the driver. Tell me what settings are available for the wheel before I can suggest anything. :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Darrin, Friday, February 6, 2004, 7:04:53 AM, you wrote: D The only thing outlook has that I seriously like is the search D folders which is a feature I would like to see in TB one day. I didn't want to share this secret too early, but this is already in works :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander, Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m Same here. I can't scroll in the message editor or any of the three m windows. Just doesn't work. Basically, the Universal Scroll (if it exists) setting for the wheel should work perfectly for Logitech drivers. I don't use trackballs, but I used a lot of Logitech mouses and they are my favourites for many years. This also means that I did not have problems with them for years. I'll try to find a trackball and find out what happens with it, anyway :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Julian, Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:14:20 AM, you wrote: JBL Just to add to the people without problems with a logitech mouse, I JBL have a MX700, and this works almost perfectly with TB!, using version JBL 9.79 of Mousewere. I can confirm what Bill has noted, and the cruise JBL up/down buttons do not work in the preview pane, although the normal JBL wheel does. OK, I've just made a fix which seems to be effective for cruise buttons - it looks like the driver sends wheel events directly to the control (unlike standard scroll events - they are sent to the owning window and that was the problem). So, the cruise buttons should work correctly starting from 2.03 Beta/59 :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello malexander, Friday, February 6, 2004, 2:35:19 AM, you wrote: m I don't. actually, see how it can be a rodent driver problem in any m case as my Logitech trackball exhibits normal behaviour in *every* m other application I have loaded on my hard disk. Well, I've just installed a Logitech Cordless TrackMan Wheel and could not see any problem with scrolling windows - it just behaves the same way as other wheeled devices (i.e. performs scrolling). The driver version number is 9.79... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: A greater appreciation for TB!
Hello Jurgen, Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:30:20 AM, you wrote: JH what do they do? You'll see when they'll be ready :-) Basically, it's like the Virtual Folder provided by the MailTicker, but for more sophisticated filtering conditions (i.e. not only unread messages, but with filtering by names, other flags, etc.) and with possibility to keep them as usual folders in the tree... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Add to Address Book
Hello Terry, T However, (isn't there always one?) I often need to input additional T details (such as phone, web site, etc.) that are in the e-mail into T the contact window. That's where the problem comes in. The new/edit T contact window stays on top and I can't get back to the e-mail to get T the details. You can define a system shortcut for SmartBat, copy the information you need to there and invoke SmartBat whenever you need it using the hot key... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Bill, Thursday, February 5, 2004, 4:27:45 AM, you wrote: BBTE I have a Logitech MX500 and the scroll wheel works properly, but there BBTE are two buttons that scroll up and down in most applications. What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those two buttons work as expected here... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Wayne, Thursday, February 5, 2004, 4:35:56 PM, you wrote: WH How does one contact the authors of this product to get some resolve WH on this ongoing issue? Here is the link - https://bt.ritlabs.com :-) But, basically, wheel problems are more likely local configuration issues - I've tested MS IntelliMoust, several Logitech models, two Genius models and a BTC 4 buttons + wheel personally. No problem whatsoever. However, I've found that some mouse drivers use non-standard behaviour by default and may need some tweaking... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Scroll Wheel Problem
Hello Bill, Thursday, February 5, 2004, 11:35:13 PM, you wrote: BBTE So that's 3 out of 4. Only the preview pane doesn't work as expected. 3 out of 4 ain't bad :-) I can't test it right now because the mouse is at the office and may become that you've made a semi-liar of me ;-) Tomorrow I will check this out, I suppose it's an RTV problem... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.
Hello Dan, Monday, February 2, 2004, 5:49:58 PM, you wrote: DG That's what I need to put in my Quick Template. Use the %CLEAR macro in your QT -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: nod32 plugin for The Bat!?
Hello Clive, Sunday, February 1, 2004, 10:05:59 AM, you wrote: CT Not for v2 If I remember this right, NOD32 developers already have the BAV specification... Anyway, nothing was changed here comparing to v1 CT and you dont need one anyway, because NOD32 will intercept CT infected mail at a system level and, believe me, you WILL get a CT notification if theres a virus in your mail! What about secured connections? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: Bug (maybe wrong understanding of RFCs): an encoding selected by the user sometimes silently replaced with 7-bit US-ASCII
Hello Thomas, Monday, January 26, 2004, 8:01:14 PM, you wrote: The behaviour you propose cause more problems because some systems (especially those functioning in the US and Canada) do not know anything about character sets other than us-ascii (and ISO, if one is lucky) and that caused problem with message processing and the recipient may not get the message. TF Hm. If he does use a high ASCII character, the encoding will not be TF changed by TB. Well, here is the problem - I use a Russian character set by default. When I send messages in English, I'm always sure that they're going out in us-ascii, no need to change anything here. Now, imagine I'm sending a message in English to some of those servers from the above - in best case, I'll get my message back saying server could not process it because an unknown character set. But I used only English! :-) Do you see my point? Another point - some MUAs may/will choose different fonts for viewing messages in a non-Western character set because of font mangling... TF What you do is change the encoding despite the sender's explicit TF wish. Not exactly. I wish my messages I write in Russian to go out in the character set I choose. But if I write messages in English, I don't want to mess with switching my encoding - all I want is just to write a message and be sure the recipient will be able to read it without any problems :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Fwd: Bug (maybe wrong understanding of RFCs): an encoding selected by the user sometimes silently replaced with 7-bit US-ASCII
Hello Maksym, Tuesday, January 27, 2004, 2:00:24 PM, you wrote: MK First things first, in this case you cannot (and should not) call your MK character set Default character set. Yes, we can - it's a shortened form of Default character set for non-7-bit ASCII characters, but the latter is a way too long and much more confusing (how many people know what ASCII is and what are 7-bit characters anyway? :-) In fact, you are the only one complaining about the current behaviour as far as I can recall and you are complaining about it only because the mail client of your correspondent is not functioning properly. Won't that be a better solution to find a simple workaround (like adding an 8-bit character like your name in Cyrillic or non-breaking space Alt+0160 in your template) ? :-) MK Also, as you see from the quted discussion at nobat.ru, the whole MK issue shows some massive misunderstanding of (I would even say MK illiteracy in reading of) RFCs: people keep saying you've MK implemented it this way because of RFC compliance Some people do believe that the current behaviour is more RFC-compliant, but my opinion (and experience) is - the current behaviour is more logical, safe and convenient. -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Bug (maybe wrong understanding of RFCs): an encoding selected by the user sometimes silently replaced with 7-bit US-ASCII
Hello Maksym, Sunday, January 25, 2004, 5:07:51 PM, you wrote: MK As a result of this behaviour combined with some other MUAs' (e.g. MK Microsoft-made ones') improper behaviour, there is the following MK problem reported by various people. The behaviour you propose cause more problems because some systems (especially those functioning in the US and Canada) do not know anything about character sets other than us-ascii (and ISO, if one is lucky) and that caused problem with message processing and the recipient may not get the message. In fact, at the early age TB! was functioning your way (i.e. it was setting character set even though there were no characters from that CS in the message at all), but we changed it to the current behaviour after cases caused by systems described above... So, basically, there is no problem on our side to assign non-ASCII character set for messages with only 7-bits characters, but this may be troublesome - this is why we don't want to do that :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Q: Rodent wheels
Hello malexander, Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 3:16:30 AM, you wrote: m That, of course, is the logical way to do it. However, it doesn't m work in my current copy of TB, nor has it ever worked. And worse, I m have no idea why it shouldn't as I have no problems scrolling other m software. What is the mouse model you're using? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Q: Rodent wheels
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, January 21, 2004, 10:56:42 AM, you wrote: ST What is the mouse model you're using? Forget it, I've found it :-) You should check wheel settings of your Logitech driver - what are they? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Park / Unpark by keyboard
Hello ken, Monday, January 19, 2004, 5:41:22 AM, you wrote: kg But it's not very intuitive - critical or not. It's so seemingly kg arbitrary (why Ctrl + J for Park?) Ctrl+P is the standard keystroke for Print. kg in the first place, a more intuitive approach would have been to kg use Ctrl + Shift + J to UnPark (assuming you had to go with J in kg the first place) Ctrl+Shift keystrokes are used for some functional extensions. The Parking was implemented more than 6 years ago, as I recall... kg To add confusion if the message window isn't open - that is, you are kg looking at the message list - there are completely different keystrokes kg used for the same behavior: parking a message uses Shift + Ctrl + P kg while UnParking a message uses Shift + Ctrl + [ Hmmm. These keystrokes are not standard to TB! It seems, you've defined them by yourself ;-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: inbox corrupted - Christmas Edition (reposted)
Hello Mike, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 7:03:16 AM, you wrote: MF Last night I opened The Bat and started receiving my new messages. MF On the last message, message 88 out of 88, it gave an error like MF Could not store message, saving as C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat81C4.TMP. The problem might be in your TEMP directory - the slowdown and the directory's size (4 G) tells clearly about that. Basically, you can easily remove all files with the .TMP extension from there and add the line del %TEMP%\*.TMP to the end of the AUTOEXEC.BAT. Other files can also be removed from there, but I'm not 100% sure :-) Another thing - check integrity of your Inbox folders using the Folder|Maintenance, they might become damaged somehow... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello Maksym, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 6:47:02 AM, you wrote: MK I'm now curious to know whether version 2.x has any sort of MK locking implemented. What kind of locking is meant exactly? Message bases cannot be damaged by accessing from different workstations because files are locked when something is being written into a message base. Do you mean some other one? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Q: Rodent wheels
Hello malexander, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 7:00:30 AM, you wrote: m Is it just me or does TB not accept wheel input? TB! controls do accept wheel input when the pointer is located in the control area. In other programs, wheel can be accepted only by the active control and we've found it illogical especially when many mouse drivers scroll inactive controls too... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Park / Unpark by keyboard
Hello ken, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 8:25:31 AM, you wrote: kg Try Ctrl + D to UnPark. I know, it's weird. It's not weird because parking is a critical flag. By having the same shortcut for parking/unparking, it would be too easy to accidently unpark a message. -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 2.03.06 destroying inmail folders
Hello Joe, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 7:58:27 PM, you wrote: First of all, TB! cannot destroy any message base because the algorithms used can only add information to the end message base file. Message base files may become damaged due to file system failure, anti-virus program that tries to remove a virus from the file without knowing the file format, damaged disk, malfunctioning RAM, any other hardware or software conflict... JR What to do? That file is utterly critical, it contains vital archived EMail. Try to check that folder's integrity using the Folder|Maintenance... menu command. This may produce some .bin files. You can use any text/binary file viewer to extract messages in RFC format from them if you can see any (partially) good messages in those files. -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: application/ms-tnef
Hello Mark, Friday, January 16, 2004, 6:45:14 PM, you wrote: MW I would love to see a Tools plugin API for TB that would allow us MW to do things like that. But for now plugins are only for MW antivirus, antispam, and macro development. The list of possible enhancements will be expanded soon. We are going to release version 2.03 at the end of January, it's almost dedicated to bug fixing, then we will start to introduce more features. That's the plan :-) -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: application/ms-tnef
Hello Chris, Friday, January 16, 2004, 4:54:39 AM, you wrote: C Is TNEF patented? Where can I find the licence? I have no idea, frankly. But it easily may be because the only thing documented about TNEF is documentation of API (provided by MS Outlook). Binary format can be explored only by hacking, this creates some worries about DMCA and other things we don't know yet :-) The real problem is absence of proper documentation. So, implementing support of TNEF would create a new can of worms (i.e. bugs) already opened... -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
