Re: X-Ray Question

2008-06-28 Thread Urban
Saturday, June 28, 2008, Bill McCarthy wrote:

 In TB, I changed the port address to 1.  I tried replacing my User
 name with xray and xray.srv to no avail.

 What changes to I have to make to TB to get this to work

I'm not familiar with X-ray so I might be totally wrong but...
You did remember to set TB! to localhost (or 127.0.0.1) as Mail server?

-- 
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I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious
cult. (Rita Roodner)






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Re: Two entries?

2008-04-01 Thread Urban
Tuesday, April 1, 2008, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Yes, that's normal behaviour. It allows you to switch from one window
 to another even when you run them maximized.

That's not your best explanation ever, Roelof. You mean doing the
alt+tab or activity bar icon-click thingie, right?

-- 
Urban

I gase at the brilliant full moon. The same one, I think to myself, at
which Socrates, Aristotole and Plato gazed. Suddenly, I imagine they
appear beside me. I tell Socrates about the national debate over one's
right to die and wonder at the constancy of the human condition. I tell
Plato that I live in the country that has come the closest to Utopia,
and I show him a copy of the Constitution. I tell Aristotle that we have
found many more than four basic elements and I show a periodic table. I
get a box of kitchen matches and strike one. They gasp with wonder. We
spend the rest of the night lighting farts.






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Re: how to manipulate the creation date?

2007-08-18 Thread Urban
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, MFPA wrote:

 The only trick I know for this is to set your computer's date/time to
 Monday before creating the emails (and remember to put it right
 afterwards).

I just stumbled upon a program that might be helpful for that:
Nirsoft RunAsDate http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/run_as_date.html

Haven't tried it myself, just passing on information

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Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-09 Thread Urban
Thursday, August 9, 2007, John Phillips wrote:

 Read in the macro help file I see a CAPITALFIRST macro, but if I add
 the parameter =%TONAME I get Hello Sharon smith.

 I really only need the first part of the name;  how to do this?

Use TOFNAME instead of TONAME

-- 
Urban

Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and
declared, A horse divided against itself cannot stand.. Franklin died
in 1790 and is still dead.






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Re: Mailbag Assistant

2007-07-14 Thread Urban
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, Kitty wrote:

 Following up to my archive question, I am trying out Mailbag Assistant
 and have a few questions:

 1.  When I get to the page that gives options on what the Wizard can
 do, one option is to make archive.
snip
 If so, does doing so remove anything from TB or will the originals
 still be in TB?

They will be left in TB.

 2.  Let's assume I make an archive of 500,000 messages (about how many
 I have as archive).  Next week I want to update the archive.  When I
 open Mailbag and tell it to archive my folders, will it start out and
 create new archives of everything or only archive the new stuff?

In the wizard there is an option to create a filter, you can use it to
create a new archive of only messages in a date range.

 3.  It appears that Mailbag is putting all the archives into one
 folder as opposed to the many folders that I have in TB?  Is there a
 way to have Mailbag archive messages into the same folders that they
 are in now in TB?

The easiest way I can think of at the moment is by writing a mailbag
script to do that. I don't have access to Mailbag right now so I can't
be more specific.

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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-10 Thread Urban
Tuesday, July 10, 2007, ETM wrote:

 But I still would like to be able to easily access that old mail.

If you save as mbg-files you can access them from within Mailbag.

-- 
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Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
changed regularly and for the same reason.






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Re: Archiving Mail

2007-07-09 Thread Urban
Monday, July 9, 2007, Kitty wrote:

 What are my options for archiving outside of TB, but where I could
 easily look at the emails?

Mailbag Assistant comes to mind
http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/index.php

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Re: 1) Extra sound plays when mail arrives; 2) CTRL-F2 not working

2007-07-05 Thread Urban
Thursday, July 5, 2007, Peter Bennett wrote:

 CTRL-F2 (dispatch all messages on the server) does not work. I can
 click the button or select the menu item, but I'm used to using the
 keyboard. Again, any advice appreciated.

There is a Shortcut Editor. The help file says it should be available
through View - Edit Shortcuts.
I just looked but couldn't find it. Anyway, View - Toolbars -
Customise and choosing the Shortcuts tab seems to be right.

-- 
Urban

Animals are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other
nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time. (Henry
Beston)






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Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro

2007-06-01 Thread Urban
Friday, June 1, 2007, Tom wrote:

 Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and
 reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as
 output Dear (blank),  Kind Regards...

Yes, since there is nothing for the macro to take it's value from in a
new mail.
You probably want to use %ABToFirstName instead.

 whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ...

Looks like the first name field in AB is _Joe. Change it to Joe

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I know a lot about cars. I can look at a car's headlights and tell you
exactly which way it's coming.






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Re: Tag Field

2007-05-27 Thread Urban
Sunday, May 27, 2007, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 First time I see this... What are the tags good for? Apart from
 human-readable description, I mean.

There new to me too. Maybe they can be used for a comma separated list
of keywords. Would make it a whole lot easier to search for a specific
filter.

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Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!

2007-05-23 Thread Urban
Wednesday, May 23, 2007, Mean Drake wrote:

 this has been my long standing problem and I will be glad to have some
 suggestions.

Try using Arial Unicode MS as a font. It includes more characters than
Courier New (which it seems you are using now).
If you find that helps, it might be worth investigating shareware fonts
such as Code2000 http://www.code2000.net/

-- 
Urban

All knowledge, the totality of all questions and answers, is contained
in the dog. (Franz Kafka)






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Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!

2007-05-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, May 22, 2007, Perry Nelson wrote:

 Can any of you tell me how I would enter the symbol for the Euro while
 typing a message in The Bat!?

Is this of any help?
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/EuroSymbolFAQ.mspx

-- 
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My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to 99 cents a
can. That's almost $7.00 in dog money.  (Joe Weinstein)






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Re: How to type Euro symbol in The Bat!

2007-05-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, May 22, 2007, Peter Meyns wrote:

 I can get the euro character (€) with {right alt}+E. But that's
 because I'm using a German keyboard.

I don't know where I've picked up AltGr+5, but it's there for me.

-- 
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Histories are more full of the examples of the fidelity of dogs than of
friends.






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Re: Contains any of filter

2007-05-16 Thread Urban
Wednesday, May 16, 2007, Fredrik Bergström wrote:

 I'm playing around in the Sorting Office and adding a Contains any
 of condition to a filter. But what are the separator(s) for the
 text?

Just hit enter and write the next condition below the previous one.
Like below:

Sender contains any of Either This
   Could be this as well
   This also, of course
   
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Re: check the space taken on a server

2007-05-06 Thread Urban
Sunday, May 6, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a possibility to check the space taken on a server?

I don't think you can do that easily via TB. Well, you could do
Account - Dispatch Mail On Server - All Messages and sum the sizes
manually, but I said easily.

 how can one check the total space taken on this particular server?

You could use Telnet and the STAT command. See, for example,
http://manual.liquidweb.com/chapter3/pop3.htm for an introduction

-- 
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I bought a seven dollar pen because I always lose pens and I got sick of
not caring. I love blackjack. But I'm not addicted to gambling. I'm
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Re: Links with Accents

2007-04-23 Thread Urban
Monday, April 23, 2007, Chris W. wrote:

 The following link stops at the 'í' in my version:
 http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Día_Internacional_del_Libro

 Can anyone else confirm?

Yes

 A bug?

Maybe more a case of TB doing it by the standard too much.

Some characters in URL:s need to be encoded (there is a very nice list
at
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/cgi_course/appendices/appendix2.html)
But of course, humans should never have to be bothered with such
trivialities. The program should do the conversion automagically

-- 
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Re: Attachments

2007-04-18 Thread Urban
Wednesday, April 18, 2007, Henri Maussang wrote:

 The attachment  (video) is pretty big : 3.8 Mb. It stays in the Outbox
 for ever.

It stays in the outbox until it has been sent. Use View - Show Connection
Center to verify that it really is being sent.

-- 
Urban

Alice laughed: There's no use trying, she said; one can't believe
impossible things. I daresay you haven't had much practice, said the
Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why,
sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before
breakfast.





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Re: Spell checker

2007-04-13 Thread Urban
Friday, April 13, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do you activate the spell checker?

In the message editor, choose Spell Checker then Automatic checking.

-- 
Urban

On the night of April 14, 1865, Lincoln went to the theater and got shot
in his seat by one of the actors in a moving picture show. The believed
assinator was John Wilkes Booth, a supposedly insane actor. This ruined
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Re: Font Problem

2007-04-12 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 12, 2007, Gene Brown wrote:

 Any messages with a quote in them have the quote displayed in a small
 font size.
snip
 This is disconcerting to me and I'd like to have everything in the
 same size font. How can I fix this?

Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor. It's either under Plain
Text/MicroEd or HTML/Windows Editor, item names are Quotation and
Quotes.

-- 
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It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal your
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Re: TB News Client

2007-04-06 Thread Urban
Tuesday, April 17, 2007, Deboo wrote:

 And where do you get MyGate and how to use it with TB? I searched
 google for mygate but didn't get any news related site.

It's available from
http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=27

Translated version of how to use at http://translatedversion.notlong.com
(or
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=deu=http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php%3Fop%3Dviewarticle%26artid%3D3%26page%3D2sa=Xoi=translateresnum=1ct=resultprev=/search%3Fq%3D%252Bmygate%2B%252Bnntp%2B%252Bproxy%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DG
if you prefer the long URL)

-- 
Urban

The greatest writer of the Renaissance was William Shakespeare. He was
born in the year 1564, supposedly on his birthday. He never made much
money and is famous only because of his plays. He wrote tragedies,
comedies, and hysterectomies, all in Islamic pentameter. Romeo and
Juliet are an example of a heroic couplet. Romeo's last wish was to be
laid by Juliet.





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Re: MyRealBox IMAP Configuration?

2007-03-25 Thread Urban
Sunday, March 25, 2007, Greg wrote:

 If you are using MRB with TB what is your configuration to connect
 with TB?
snip
 !3/25/2007, 12:42:42: IMAP - Could not connect to the server


IMAP is temporarily down, see http://www.myrealbox.com/

I don't know if you have seen it, but MRB will be moved to
Message Architect and you need to opt-in to move your account. Deadline
is today (hey, I just noticed myself).

-- 
Urban

I got in an argument with a girlfriend inside of a tent. That's a bad
place for an argument, because then I tried to walk out, and had to slam
the flap. How are you supposed to express your anger in this situation?
Zip it up real quick?





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Re: Old Messages

2007-03-22 Thread Urban
Thursday, March 22, 2007, Richard Newman wrote:

 What setting am I missing when The Bat on other machines deletes
 messages after download?

Account - Mail Messages - Delete received messages from server

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Re: Most recent TB! Update

2007-03-17 Thread Urban
Saturday, March 17, 2007, Jeanny House wrote:

 Is there any reason to update if I'm still using Windows XP?

Well... The only that is new in 3.98 from 3.95 is the
AutoBackup. There were a few bugfixes and cosmetic changes too.

Here's whats changed in 3.98.4 from 3.98.1
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=1838

-- 
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I often wonder how come John Tesh isn't as popular a singer as some
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Re: How to reset Mail Dispatcher Columns?

2007-03-11 Thread Urban
Saturday, March 10, 2007, Roelof Otten wrote:

 Problem is that Regedit remembers where you left it.

That feature of Regedit can be controlled using the tweak discussed at
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1896762,00.asp

The is that it also disable Regedit's favourite keys, I've set up some
shortkeys to Regjump to emulate that
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Miscellaneous/Regjump.mspx

-- 
Urban

Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people are mentally ill. Check 3 friends.
If they're OK, you're it.





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Re: Help

2007-02-23 Thread Urban
Friday, February 23, 2007, Dave Goodman wrote:

 Sorry, I don't have the answer, but after years of using TB! a few
 months ago I also started having delays in sending.

No answers from me either. I've had troubles with the last versions too.
Now I just save outgoing as drafts and undraft it again, works for me.

-- 
Urban

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Re: Editing Received Messages

2007-01-22 Thread Urban
Monday, January 22, 2007, Mary Bull wrote:

 But only helpful if there are meaningful subject lines, using words
 relevant to the body text's content.

 Memo is no substitute.

So forward it to yourself and change the subject line.

-- 
Urban

I believe you should live each day as if it is your last, which is why I
don't have any clean laundry because, come on, who wants to wash clothes
on the last day of thier life





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Re: Address Book Nesting

2007-01-09 Thread Urban
Tuesday, January 9, 2007, Mike Greenbaum wrote:

 I want to end up with:

 Classes

   Class1
  Contact1

snip
   Inactive Classes
  
  Class2
 Contact1


The closest you can get is by creating a new address book (Tools -
Address Book - New Address Book) called Inactive Classes. Then You can
cut and paste entire groups from the address book Classes to Inactive
Classes.


-- 
Urban

Clouds just keep circling the earth around and around. And around. There
is not much else to do.





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Re: Stop generating .eml with forwards?

2007-01-08 Thread Urban
Monday, January 8, 2007, Andrew Diederich wrote:

 When I forward an email I received with attachments, the original
 email and attachment are added as an .eml file.

Look under Account - Properties - Templates - Forward, there is a box
saying Forward messages as attachments (MIME standard).
You probably have it checked. Uncheck it and TB! will do what you want.

-- 
Urban

When a man wants to murder a tiger, it's called sport. When the tiger
wants to murder him, it's called ferocity. (George Bernard Shaw)




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Re: Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer

2007-01-08 Thread Urban
Monday, January 8, 2007, Roelof Otten wrote:

 In the tbuser.def file in your mail directory.

In the mail directory?
Then my TB! must be strange because it has placed tbuser.def in
%APPDATA%\The Bat! and that isn't my mail directory

-- 
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Re: BayesIt Plugin missing

2006-12-29 Thread Urban
Friday, December 29, 2006, Gene wrote:

 SpamPal  If you think I do poor German, then imagine what a mess
 I am with *anything* using the Cyrillic alphabet

Hopefully, the world is a nice place and the Russian page should be
roughly equivalent to the official TB-info from SpamPal
http://www.spampal.org/usermanual/clients/bat/bat.html

-- 
Urban

Abraham Lincoln became America's greatest Precedent. Lincoln's mother
died in infancy, and he was born in a log cabin which he built with his
own hands. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves by signing the Emasculation
Proclamation.





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Re: TB! still has negative image

2006-12-14 Thread Urban
Thursday, December 14, 2006, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 If you buy a product and find out it doesn't work according to the
 specs, the maker either gives your money back or solves the issue for you.
 
 That is another assumption, but it does not apply to the majority of
 software licenses that I know of.

 The license for The Bat (you should have it somewhere on your
 harddisk) says:

The license (at least Pro), second paragraph, also says

| Registration gives you the right to use the program after the 30-day
| trial period, receive technical support and use features available
| only for registered users.

-- 
Urban

I don't know about you, but I enjoy watching paint dry. I imagine that
the wet paint is a big freshwater lake that is the only source of water
for some tiny cities by the lake. As the lake gets drier, the population
gets more desperate, and sometimes there are water riots. Once there was
a big fire and everyone died





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Re: Updating TB!

2006-12-08 Thread Urban
Wednesday, December 6, 2006, Mary Bull wrote:

 But MSI won't allow me to drop back. I'd have to do a full uninstall
 plus reinstall to do that. And it's too much hassle.

MSI has an option to repair if file is missing or a different version
is installed.
So it /might/ work.

Try going to Start - Run, and type msiexec /? and it will give you a
nice li'l help screen

-- 
Urban

I don't know about you, but I enjoy watching paint dry. I imagine that
the wet paint is a big freshwater lake that is the only source of water
for some tiny cities by the lake. As the lake gets drier, the population
gets more desperate, and sometimes there are water riots. Once there was
a big fire and everyone died





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Re: Finding all linked messages

2006-10-15 Thread Urban
Sunday, October 15, 2006, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

 You  could  do  a  search  for the mid of the original message. Do the
 search under header contains.

To find the mid, go to the message and hit F9 to see the headers.
There will be a line that looks somewhat like
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] part is the mid, so
just copy it and use it in your search.

-- 
Urban

I bought a seven dollar pen because I always lose pens and I got sick of
not caring. I love blackjack. But I'm not addicted to gambling. I'm
addicted to sitting in a semi-circle.





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Re: Re; Running The Bat! on Mac OSX

2006-10-09 Thread Urban
Monday, October 9, 2006, Granville Cousins wrote:

 I have a Mac G4 Powerbook running OSX. Is it possible to run The Bat!
 on this machine with the help of some emulation software.

What about Wine?
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/

-- 
Urban

To prevent head colds, use an agonizer to spray into the nose until it
drips into the throat.





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Re: Common Filters

2006-08-31 Thread Urban
Thursday, August 31, 2006, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Can somebody please remind me of the file name in which the common
 filters are stored?
snip
 Oh, and the folder structure is also in some file, IIRC. account.flb
 or account.flx?

Take a look at TBUDP.

Short link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y10B21AAD
Long link:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Program%20Folders%20and%20Files

-- 
Urban

Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not
discover it. (A.N. Whitehead)





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Re: Virtual Memory overuse

2006-06-18 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 14, 2006, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I don't think anyone will open a shorterlink. Well, at least I
 won't. Why don't you post both, the real link and - if you wish - the
 shorter link?

Ok. Here's the non-shortened one
http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_frm/thread/f9517660ae905f57/7c193474340b2c29?tvc=1q=%22Why+does+Opera+use+so+much+RAM%22#7c193474340b2c29

The thing I like about shorterlinks is that they show where they are
taking you before redirecting. Not for very long, but long enough to
copy the URL and stop the redirect by hitting a bookmark or going to
your start page or whatever.
Then, it's a piece of cake to just paste the URL into notepad and check it
so it doesn't look strange.

-- 
Urban

A closed mind is a good thing to lose.





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Re: Virtual Memory overuse

2006-06-09 Thread Urban
Monday, June 5, 2006, Ken wrote:

 I've noticed this when running TB in conjunction with Opera 9 Beta. If
 I shut down Opera TB behaves itself.  I use straight POP3, no IMAP.

I don't know if this is related, but there recently was a thread on
Opera an RAM consumption on the opera.general newsgroups

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I38622D3D

-- 
Urban

begin  LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs|I'm a signature virus. Copy me!|end





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Re: Wrap text problem ?

2006-02-24 Thread Urban
Thursday, February 23, 2006, Shahar wrote:

 Hello Richard

 On 2/23/06, Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Does Options/Preferences/Viewer/editor help? There you can set how you
 view each version of your mails.


 Been there. No change ..

None whatsoever?
Have you tried HTML and plain text for viewing?

I think that your problem is that the mail is Multipart/alternative --
good explanation at
http://email.about.com/cs/marketingtips/qt/et051003.htm -- but the text
and html parts doesn't correspond.

If you check the message-source (press F9), do you se a part that looks
something like the example below?

8=8=8=8=

--=_NextPart_001_0020_01C63359.64592ED8
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


- Original Message -=20
From: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Yada yada yada


--=_NextPart_001_0020_01C63359.64592ED8
Content-Type: text/html;
  charset=windows-1252

8=8=8=8=

The text viewer will show only the message that is in the
text/plain-section, in this case

From: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Yada yada yada

The most effective thing to do is to try to persuade the sender to
change his/her settings so that they send that the text/plain-part
contains the same message as the text/html-section.

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/PlainText.html and
http://home.earthlink.net/~bobbau/email/avoiding-html/ are good starting
points if the sender needs instructions.

Note that those are for configuring the e-mail client to avoid sending
HTML, I don't think that it should be too hard to find out how to
configure for multipart/alternative, though.

Other than changing your viewer settings and convincing the sender to
send in a format you like to read...
Well, I think that it would be doable to set up a filter that fires a
batch file to extract the message from the html part. But it would
probably be messy, ugly and terribly ineffective.

(BTW, your delimiter is missing a space after the two dashes)

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Re: Wrap text problem ?

2006-02-24 Thread Urban
Hi TBUDLERs

It's been 6 hours since I originally sent this one and it still haven't
shown up here.
Time for a repost!

Thursday, February 23, 2006, Shahar wrote:

 Hello Richard

 On 2/23/06, Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Does Options/Preferences/Viewer/editor help? There you can set how you
 view each version of your mails.


 Been there. No change ..

None whatsoever?
Have you tried HTML and plain text for viewing?

I think that your problem is that the mail is Multipart/alternative --
good explanation at
http://email.about.com/cs/marketingtips/qt/et051003.htm -- but the text
and html parts doesn't correspond.

If you check the message-source (press F9), do you se a part that looks
something like the example below?

8=8=8=8=

--=_NextPart_001_0020_01C63359.64592ED8
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


- Original Message -=20
From: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Yada yada yada


--=_NextPart_001_0020_01C63359.64592ED8
Content-Type: text/html;
  charset=windows-1252

8=8=8=8=

The text viewer will show only the message that is in the
text/plain-section, in this case

From: Foo Bar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Yada yada yada

The most effective thing to do is to try to persuade the sender to
change his/her settings so that they send that the text/plain-part
contains the same message as the text/html-section.

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/PlainText.html and
http://home.earthlink.net/~bobbau/email/avoiding-html/ are good starting
points if the sender needs instructions.

Note that those are for configuring the e-mail client to avoid sending
HTML, I don't think that it should be too hard to find out how to
configure for multipart/alternative, though.

Other than changing your viewer settings and convincing the sender to
send in a format you like to read...
Well, I think that it would be doable to set up a filter that fires a
batch file to extract the message from the html part. But it would
probably be messy, ugly and terribly ineffective.

(BTW, your delimiter is missing a space after the two dashes)

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Re: Sort Column Shading

2006-02-24 Thread Urban
Friday, February 24, 2006, Ian A. White wrote:

 It might have to do with the particular Windows theme you are using.

More TB theme (the one in View-Themes) than Windows theme, I think.
I see the shadings in Explorer, but not in TB using TB's Default
(Windows) theme.

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Re: Wrap text problem ?

2006-02-22 Thread Urban
Wednesday, February 22, 2006, Shahar wrote:

 If so, what do I have to do in order to see the message not a one
 block ?

Underneath the message should be at least two tabs, one saying Text
and another one saying HTML.
Just click on the HTML tab.

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Re: What happened to my F4 functionality?

2005-12-19 Thread Urban
Tuesday, December 20, 2005, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:

 For a long time, if I highlighted part of a message to which I wanted
 to reply, only the hightlighted part would be quoted when I hit the F4
 key instead of a reply icon. Now, the whole message is quoted. Is
 there some way of setting this to behave as it did previously?

Do you have any %QUOTES macros in your reply templates?

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the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
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Re: cpu 100%

2005-11-27 Thread Urban
Sunday, November 27, 2005, lex wrote:

 About deleting temporary files: how do i find them?

Start, then run, type %temp% (without the qoutes), sometimes there's a
%tmp% too -- normally it's the same folder. Never wrong to try both.

The files should be called  bat*.tmp or something like that

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Re: cpu 100%

2005-11-27 Thread Urban
Sunday, November 27, 2005, lex wrote:

 869 items, is that a lot?

I'd say that 869 bat items is quite a lot, yes.

IIRC, there were some solutions to clearing the %TEMP% automatically in
an earlier discussion on TBUDL... (searching)...
Yes, here it is; the subject is TB! attachment display settings?
Just search for it in the TBUDL Archives
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/

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Re: So How much would the Voyager -cost..??

2005-11-20 Thread Urban
Sunday, November 20, 2005, Marten Gallagher wrote:

 I've been checking the links and the site for months (since Feb 2005)
 - ever since it was first announced and still can't find it!

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/The-Bat-Voyager.shtml

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Re: What is winmail.dat file attachment? EOM

2005-11-16 Thread Urban
Wednesday, November 16, 2005, rich gregory wrote:

 The fentun product seems Netscape-centric. Any other ideas how one
 could see inside a winmail.dat file?

This should work, I think
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg34347.html

Else, there a few links at
http://dev.kanngard.net/Permalinks/ID_20050429165927.html
and an online conversion at http://tud.at/php/tnef/

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bread which is bread made without any ingredients. Moses went up on
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Re: That Cut Mark

2005-10-25 Thread Urban
Tuesday, October 25, 2005, Robert D. wrote:

 I was trying to explain to a few people, on another List, about the
 need and usefulness of the *cut mark* sequence. snip
 If there was an RFC *suggesting* the use thereof

RFC2646, section 4.3
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2646.html

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Re: That Cut Mark

2005-10-25 Thread Urban
Tuesday, October 25, 2005, Urban wrote:

 RFC2646, section 4.3

Oops, I was to fast again. 2646 has been superseded by rfc3676
ANyway, same section (4.3)
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3676.html

I think the phrasing a long-standing convention is the closest to an
actual suggestion you'll get from a rfc.

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Re: Re-Treading

2005-10-15 Thread Urban
Friday, October 14, 2005, Fredrik_Bergström wrote:

 Just remove the Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+] and add your own shortcuts that is
 possible to enter ;).

I'm not in the habit of adding shortcuts to functions I don't use ;-)

I'm only curious of the swedish equivalent to ctrl+[ so that I can help
other swedes who might find it confusing.

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Re: Re-Treading

2005-10-13 Thread Urban
Thursday, October 13, 2005, Fredrik_Bergström wrote:

 I'm not that good using the Customize dialog but and/or hotkeys in
 TheBat, but I seem to not be able to push Ctrl-] on my Swedish
 keyboard

You mean for Go to next unread message?
It's ctrl+å
Haven't managed to locate Go to previous unread message yet, though.
It's not functions that are very important to me.

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Re: Re-Treading

2005-10-13 Thread Urban
Thursday, October 13, 2005, Fredrik_Bergström wrote:

   In the Customize dialog you can change / find the hotkeys needed,
   Go to previous unread message is in the Container Message List
   Pop-up menu.

It still says Ctrl+] and Ctrl+[ in there.
As I said, these are not very important commands for me so I just leave
them like that.
Thanks anyway, it's always good to know where to find stuff in order to
guide other users.

 Tack och hej, leverpastej ;)

Hej å hå, grävmaskiner i det blå

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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Urban
Tuesday, September 13, 2005, Chris wrote:

 I have a filter called My List Messages. It selects only mailing
 list messages that were sent from my e-mail account and marks them as
 read (I wrote them; I don't need to read them again...). If, on a mail
 check, only these kind of messages are downloaded, I don't want to
 sound to play (There is no new mail to be read; ergo, no sound should
 be played.).

If I understand you correctly, you want to play sounds for all other
filters and want My List Messages to be silent.

Take a look in Account - Sorting Office/Filters - Actions; there is an
option Play a sound.
You could create a short soundfile, using the Windows recorder for
example, consisting of nothing but silence and point to that.

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Re: Word wrap still considered good style?

2005-08-10 Thread Urban
Wednesday, August 10, 2005, ms wrote:

 Can someone point me to a good website that cares about this maybe?

Take a look at
http://www.effectivemeetings.com/productivity/communication/netiquette.asp

It's the first hit in this Google search:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N36A2169B

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Re: Importing from archived of .msg files

2005-07-28 Thread Urban
Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Paul Meathrel wrote:

 I have a really old file ('95) with the extension .pst which I would
 like to importing into TB.

The least costly way is if you have access to Outlook Explorer.
You can use the Import Wizard of OE (File-Import-Messages) from the
pst-file. From there, it should be possible to import them into TB using
TB's Mailbox Import Wizard (Tools-Import Messages-Mailbox Import
Wizard).

If that doesn't work, there are pay-tools such as Aid4Mail
http://www.aid4mail.com or MailNavigator
http://www.mailnavigator.com

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Re: On The Fly Encryption 3.5.25

2005-06-08 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 8, 2005, MFPA wrote:

 On Wednesday 8 June 2005 at 8:27:25 AM, in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Boom wrote:

 Did you read below my signature line?

 Very good illustration. I missed that lint, too.

Hey, Lint http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lint_programming_tool for
e-mail would bee such a cool idea!

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Re: An image catalogue app with VF ???

2005-06-08 Thread Urban
Thursday, June 9, 2005, rich gregory wrote:

 Maybe someone found something like this? Thanks for any hints...

M You may want to try ACDSee 7.0 from http://www.acdsystems.com/, I belive
M it does what you want.

 ACDSee rocks. Also consider Google's FREE Picassa which may do this as
 well.

Altough I haven't tried it, PixVue http://www.pixvue.com/ seems to be
a third alternative for you to try.

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Re: Proposal for spam filters

2005-05-18 Thread Urban
Wednesday, May 18, 2005, Steve Lee wrote:

 It is not the anti-spam solution that requires the subject tag, it is
 to make it easier to manually scan for trapped (false positive)
 messages so they can be identified and the sender whitelisted.

I fail to see why this would be a good thing in the TB mailing lists.

TB gives you functionality very much like that.
Create a virtual folder that looks for TB mailing list addresses in the
junk folder.

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removable type and the Bible. Another important invention was the
circulation of blood. Sir Walter Raleigh is a historical figure because
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Re: Correct settings for GMX IMAP?

2005-05-16 Thread Urban
Monday, May 16, 2005, Roman Katzer wrote:

 is that even possible with their free accounts? I seem to remember
 that only the paid accounts had IMAP enabled.

My german is as rusty as my klingon, but I think it's only available in
paid accounts.

Der IMAP4-Zugang ist in den Tarifen GMX ProMail und GMX TopMail
verfügbar.

Anyway, the settings they give for Thunderbird are these, I think you
should be able to deduce the correct TB! settings from these:

Your Name: Ihr Vor- und Nachname
Email Address: Ihre GMX e-mail-Adresse
POP Incoming Server: pop.gmx.net
POP Outgoing Server: mail.gmx.net
IMAP Incoming Server: imap.gmx.net
IMAP Outgoing Server: mail.gmx.net
User Name: Ihre GMX e-mail-Adresse
Account Name: Eine beliebige Bezeichnung, z.B. Ihre GMX Adresse

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have thought about it. I think the reason was that mathematics leaves no
room for argument. If you made a mistake, that was all there was to it.
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Re: 3.5 Fade In/Out Menus?

2005-05-15 Thread Urban
Sunday, May 15, 2005, BJH wrote:

 I'm finding my way around 3.5 and I've noticed that right-click menus
 are slow to display on my computer, faidng in and out quite slowly.

Not very slowly, but they're definitely not as quick as they have been
in the past.

 Is this a Windows XP thing or a hidden setting in in V3.5?

I'm running W2k so it's obviously not a XP thingie

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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-02 Thread Urban
Sunday, May 1, 2005, Admin at AK wrote:

 Sometime earlier this year there was an email about a version of TB
 that would run from a memory stick.

This definitely rang a bell. So I did some searching and found The Bat!
Voyager
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=725phrase_id=745609

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Re: Smileys

2005-05-02 Thread Urban
Friday, April 29, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

 Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

 Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it.

 Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-)

 Nay. It's a different woman and a different song. (-:

 [Has nothing with the saying. Although it *resembles* a tiny bit it.

I don't quite follow you?
To which lady did you refer?

(This is getting OT so I'll CC to TBOT)

snip
 You anyway have good tags lately. Thanks for amusement!

Your welcome.
Actually, I haven't updated my cookie-file for ages. It seems that as
the version number of TB! increases the random generator gets more adept
in picking the good ones.

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of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king.
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Re: Smileys

2005-04-29 Thread Urban
Friday, April 29, 2005, Martin Webster on tbudl wrote:

 I doubt that there is a problem with the ideas described in this
 thread... I looked at every message in Mozilla Thunderbird and each
 renders correctly.

If there is no problem, then even I can think it would be a good idea.

Since I don't have Thunderbird installed, could you check if the
different regexps come through correctly if you cp them into the
editor?

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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 I'll only vote yes on this if I get *this* as bold and _that_ as
 underlined and /those/ as italics auto-interpreted, too. ;-)

Hopefully, /that/ will never happen.
As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make
explaining regexps a lot harder, for example.

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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote:


 ON Thursday, April 28, 2005, 1:25:43 PM, you wrote:

TBs My Sony cellphone detects when I am writing a smiley, and exchange it
TBs to a picture on-the-fly. Should not TB work the same?

 I agree with you on this. Specially with the not so standard smileys it is
 good to know that you have written them correctly.

Sounds good to me.

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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Are you referring to the /italics/ only, because the slash is a regex
 escape character?

No, the slashes around that is supposed to be of the emphasis/italics kind.

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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 Actually, (to be precise :-) ) you would use the backslash \, e.g.
 ^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hmmm, then I don't know what the problem with /italics/ would be. :-)

I've already answered the on /. Well it could be a problem if you
wrote UNIX file paths in the form /etc/ but since people normally
don't do that it is mostly a problem that exists in theory.

But there could be a big problem with * (any number of the preceeding
character). If we change the regexp from Martin to
^From.*(OWNER|owner)-(NOLIST|nolist)-.*\ *.* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Note the spaces around the first *.*)
you might see what I'm getting at. A bold . written is hard to
distinguish from one that is written in a normal font, and it most
definitely is not the same thing as *.*

(Bad example, I know, but it's getting kind of late and I'm too tired to
make up my own examples).


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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote:



U As long as space is a valid character (which it is) it would make
U explaining regexps a lot harder, for example.

 So? I don't use regexes, but I do use the TB viewers.

Questions on regexps do pop up on the TB* lists from time to time. No
wonder, since the lists are the best source for help on how to use TB!

Once I hoped for a help file that match the other qualities of TB! but
time has made me cynical.

Therefore, I think, it would be an unfortunate thing to do since there
is a possibility of confusing poor newbies more than they already are.
It could turn into the old (c)-smilie-problem (remember that? Those were
the days!) in miniature.

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which Socrates, Aristotole and Plato gazed. Suddenly, I imagine they
appear beside me. I tell Socrates about the national debate over one's
right to die and wonder at the constancy of the human condition. I tell
Plato that I live in the country that has come the closest to Utopia,
and I show him a copy of the Constitution. I tell Aristotle that we have
found many more than four basic elements and I show a periodic table. I
get a box of kitchen matches and strike one. They gasp with wonder. We
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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

 Then the chubby woman begin to sing, and that's it.

Oh, I thought they only did that in Wagner :-)

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Re: Smileys

2005-04-28 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 28, 2005, Gerard wrote:

 If this was to be implemented it would never be possible to do in
 plain text and would a regex programmer use anything but a plain text
 editor?

He he. I've even been known to use Lynx and (yes) vi from time to time
too :-)

But seriously, even if you wrote using the text editor, it (probably)
would influence how the text was shown in the RTV too, just like the
smileys work today.

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Re: Bayesit - how does it mark a message as spam?

2005-04-21 Thread Urban
Thursday, April 21, 2005, MFPA wrote:

  RBL lookups?

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/R/RBL.html

-- 
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No, wait. That would be good because if anyone needed it, the blood
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Re: OT: Getting hitched, ball-and-chained, de-bachelorized etc.

2005-04-09 Thread Urban
Friday, April 8, 2005, Leif Gregory wrote:

 Well friends, the time has come.. Rachel and I will be married this
 Saturday, the 9th, at 6:30pm.

Best wishes to you both!

-- 
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Re: Anyone using OnSpeed with The Bat!?

2005-01-16 Thread Urban
Sunday, January 16, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

 I'd like to see a few independent tests OnThis. :-)

Jack Schofield's look at OnSpeed in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/insideit/story/0,13270,1128097,00.html
seems to deal with both the bads and the goods.

-- 
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Re: SOT: Too busy Merry Xmas!

2004-12-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, December 21, 2004, MAU wrote:

 Merry Christmas to all and a wonderful 2005!!!

Yes, have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.

-- 
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Re: Who's stealing from TB?

2004-12-15 Thread Urban
Thursday, December 16, 2004, Watcher wrote:

  Any suggestions as to who the very impolite app is that's stealing
 the association without asking?

Outlook Express maybe?
Try this:
Right click the desktop Internet Explorer icon and choose properties
then programs. You should be able to set the mail client you want from
there, but sometimes it needs a little push.
IIRC, the way to do it is to set it to OE, reboot, and then set it to
The Bat.

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Re: Toolbar button for new message

2004-12-13 Thread Urban
Monday, December 13, 2004, WilWilWil wrote:

 can I set a macro via templates, to say TB that this friend has to be
 mail with this account, and that other friend with that other account
 ?

Under the New Mail, Reply and Forward tabs in the address book
entry, there is a little check box that says use a specific template for
new messages.
If you check it you can use the macros you want, such as
%ACCOUNT=ThisAccount or %ACCOUNT=ThatAccount

It takes some tinkering to get macros working the way one wants them to,
but it's not difficult

-- 
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Re: Toolbar button for new message

2004-12-13 Thread Urban
Monday, December 13, 2004, WilWilWil wrote:

 Is there a way to merge this friend special macro (%Account=) with
 global template of the account. I hope I 'll do not have to copy
 global template (with siganture) for each member of my addresses book
 (200) just to add which account has to be used !

Take a look at the %QINCLUDE macro. I /think/ that would be the easiest
way to do what you want.

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Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...

2004-07-07 Thread Urban
Wednesday, July 7, 2004, subscriber2list wrote:

 how does one back-out of the end result, i.e., return to where ALL
 messages are listed again versus just the messages containing the
 particular item that resulted from following your steps?

View - Display - All Messages

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Murphy's Third Law: In any field of endeavor, anything that can go wrong
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Re: HTML backgrounds? - thanks!

2004-07-07 Thread Urban
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, Britt Henrikson wrote:

 You can't use html sjablones for TB.

 That's really a shame. I love to send and get mails with real letter
 papers.

The best you can do is to find an image that tiles nicely an use that
one.
If you, for example, open Outlook Express (presuming you have that
installed), you can find where the images it uses for background are by
creating a new message using a template, then go to
Format - Background - Image (I think, I am directly translating from a
Swedish OE). Or, if you're in a lazy mood, type
%CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared/Stationery/ in your
Start-menu - Run and the correct folder should open.
Remember, or write down or whatever, the file name. Then, in TB, when
you want a document background, you click the correct button, check the
Use background image, and press Load.

Hope I explained it clear enough. I'll be away from mail for a time, so
I can't answer you if you have any questions.

-- 
Urban

If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you
should go home and examine your conscience. (Woodrow Wilson)


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Re: Rogue Smileys - Bug or as Intended?

2004-07-01 Thread Urban
Thursday, July 1, 2004, Russell L. Farabee wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Has anyone that views html messages (so that smileys are visible)
 noticed that some letters enclosed in parens sometimes, but not
 always, appear as smileys.  For example, in an incoming message 
 Open Paren b Close Paren (b) shows up as a beer mug, 
 Open Paren c Close Paren (c) looks like a cup of coffee, and
 Open Paren f Close Paren (f) maybe a plate with a fork.  

You use a TB that's earlier than 2.11.02?
The most annoying (?) of these, like the B and the C ones, were fixed
in that one. There are a few left in the default installation, but I
hope those will be taken care of, too.

Anyway, the smilies are defined in a filed called pdsf.msl -- in the
subfolder Images of the TB-installation. Just edit away those that
annoys you. Won't help if you send a letter, but at least you don't have
to see it anymore.
You can also disable smilies on reading by going to Options -
Preferences - Viewer/Editor and uncheck the Use smiley icons in HTML
viewer, or by right clicking the letter you are reading and uncheck
Smileys.

-- 
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We keep track of the humidity in the air so we won't drown when we
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Re: Unread folder

2004-06-27 Thread Urban
Sunday, June 27, 2004, Maggie wrote:

 Yes. The original ebay message(s) showed as usual in the Inbox
 normally as read, but not in the Virtual Folder Unread, and the flying
 bat icon still flapped.

 Thank you for your help. I hope my directions helped _you_!

Folder - Refresh has been known to solve similar problems in the past.

-- 
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Re: Server error

2004-06-24 Thread Urban
Thursday, June 24, 2004, Shahar wrote:

 This error comes with the popup window that prompt for the username
 and the password. The window's name is %ACCOUNTNAME - check mail.

 My question is how do I get rid of this popup window whenever I
 have connection problem with my POP3 server ?

 I just don't want to see the TB window.

Enter your user name and password in
Account - Properties - Transport - Receive Mail

You'll also need to set the Do not store password, prompt on mail
retrieval that hides behind the Authentication button in that
window.

-- 
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Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltaire
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Re: SMTP Servers

2004-06-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, June 22, 2004, Fredrik Bergström wrote:

 Actually, Telia (One of Swedens largest ISPs) blocks port 25

So connect through smtprelay.telia.com
It's all buried somewhere on their site. (They changed their DNS:es too,
so it might be worthwhile to take a look.)

-- 
Urban

My husband and I are either going to buy a dog or have a child. We can't
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Re: Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!?

2004-06-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, June 22, 2004, Jim McMaster wrote:

 Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %-
 %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %- %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER
 %WINDOWSCSDVERSION

It looks like you are trying to write macros directly in the editor.
If you do it in the Address Book instead it will work better.
Go to Tools - Address Book (or hit F8), find (or create) the entry you
want to edit. If you create a new entry, the correct window will show
automatically, if you choose to edit an existing one then right click on
it and select Properties.
You will see that there are a few tabs, among them New Message and
Reply. Select the one you want, tick the little box that says Use a
specific template for new messages.

 Can I import a thawte certificate into The Bat!?  If so, how do I go
 about it?

If it's your own certificate: Account - Properties - Edit Personal
Certficates - Import

(I think, I did it once _long ago_, but mostly for fun so I may have
forgotten or remember it wrong.)

-- 
Urban

I gase at the brilliant full moon. The same one, I think to myself, at
which Socrates, Aristotole and Plato gazed. Suddenly, I imagine they
appear beside me. I tell Socrates about the national debate over one's
right to die and wonder at the constancy of the human condition. I tell
Plato that I live in the country that has come the closest to Utopia,
and I show him a copy of the Constitution. I tell Aristotle that we have
found many more than four basic elements and I show a periodic table. I
get a box of kitchen matches and strike one. They gasp with wonder. We
spend the rest of the night lighting farts.


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Re: Problems with extreme CPU power usage and slowly performing tasks...

2004-06-22 Thread Urban
Tuesday, June 22, 2004, Marije Baalman wrote:

 TheBat! is still looking for thebat.ipc every 10 seconds...

 what is this file for?

The simple explanation is that it allows you to use the command line
parameters to control The Bat while running.
For a more detailed explanation and its use, you can go to the archives
and look for the threads file not found thebat.ipc and thebat.IPC

-- 
Urban

The outcome of any serious research can only be to make two questions
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Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-13 Thread Urban
Friday, June 11, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

U I do that using the mouse-wheel, so I have to do a mousy-click
U first and then move my hand to the keyboard.

 So your %Cursor macro should still be above the %Quotes macro, or not?

I prefer to have it under.
Saves me a little bit of work when I do a short reply like this.

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Re: TB! attachment display settings?

2004-06-13 Thread Urban
Friday, June 11, 2004, Mary Bull wrote:

 I did this. You have solved the problem! All the old attachments will
 open now, just like the four new ones do.

I'm so glad you got it to work.

 It took me some time, because I first moved the .tmp files to another
 folder, as you suggested, rather than deleting them. After I was able
 to open the attachments successfully, I then deleted the 88 bat.tmp
 files.

I don't know why, but this approach always make me think the old swedish
Minister of Finance Gunnar Sträng. He wore both braces and waist-belt,
not a man you'd catch easily with his pants down.

 It's not a familiar activity for me, and I had trouble controlling the
 mouse to highlight them in selected blocks rather than one at a time.

You know what they say, practice makes perfect.

 I don't have the words to say how much joy it brings me to have this
 problem solved. Thank you very much, Urban.

And thank you, Mary, for sharing your happiness.

-- 
Urban

There are 10 kinds of people - those who understand binary math, and
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Re: TB! attachment display settings?

2004-06-10 Thread Urban
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Mary Bull wrote:

 88 bat.tmp files in my profile [...] \TEMP are each one empty. I checked
 the Properties on every one of them.

snip

 :h2g2: Maybe my attachment files are Lost in Space! No, different
 show. :)

But your old attachments still are working if you copy them to the
desktop?
It could very well be those empty .tmp files that are messing things
up for you. Try closing TB, then move the .tmp-files to another folder,
they normally are safe to delete but just in case...
It may happen that Windows says that some of the files are being used
and can't be moved, that's normal, just click OK.
Then open TB again and try opening one of your attachments.

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Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-10 Thread Urban
Thursday, June 10, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

U Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk) SCNR

 No, I'm not. But my cursor is indeed set before the quotes, and I
 delete or not and write my replies while I go along.

Didn't think of that. But I can see the sense in it. Just move down
using the arrow keys and start typing where-ever you are. Nice!
I do that using the mouse-wheel, so I have to do a mousy-click first and
then move my hand to the keyboard.

-- 
Urban

During the Renaissance America began. Christopher Columbus was a great
navigator who discovered America while cursing about the Atlantic. His
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Re: New mail, use account

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, VenimK wrote:

 Can i make this work. When sending new mail to specific group, use
 then a specific mail account ??

Yes, add the %ACCOUNT macro to the groups New Message tab in your
address book. Like this:
Hej %ABtoFirstName

%Cursor
--
Urban

%ACCOUNT=Urban

-- 
Urban

When a singer sings, he stirs up the air and makes it hit any passing
eardrums. But if he is good, he knows how to keep it from hurting.


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Re: TB! attachment display settings?

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Mary Bull wrote:

 Can anyone help me fix this? Much appreciation in advance!

I don't have a clue to what this can be, but the first thing that comes
to mind is to try changing the settings for Use external viewer to open
attached images (Options-Preferences-General).

-- 
Urban

To most people solutions mean finding the answers. But to chemists
solutions are things that are still all mixed up.


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Re: keyboard shortcuts for to: cc: bcc: subject: message headers?

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Arthur Tan wrote:

 For instance, suppose I am typing an address and then want to erase
 the whole thing quickly.  Is there a keyboard command for delete line
 in that part of the window?

There are the standard Windows ones: Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow for select to
end of word, Ctrl+Shift+LeftArrow for select to beginning of word, and
Shift+End for select to end of line.

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Re: multi-language templates

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

  %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hallo %TFName
  %Cursor
  %Quotes

  

Advocating top-posting now, are we? (tsk tsk)
SCNR

snippeti-do-da

 Help / Index / Macros / Full alphabetic list / Dash macro.

 No! It's gone! :-(

It's there, the first one, before ABnnnPPP.

 Also, the Help window doesn't scroll with the scroll wheel. :-(

It does with my Microsoft thingie.

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Re: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Maggie wrote:

 Yes. I see how to accomplish that in the HTML editor, but how to do
 this in the Plain Text (Windows Proportional)??

You can't. In a plain text message the links just are, there's no need
to indicate that it's a link. In HTML, on the other hand, you have to
say that what you mean to be a link really is a link.

 That's where my unclickable links were showing. I 'spoke' to Allie
 about this and he was not seeing the same thing I was reporting about
 this.

Your link showed fine here, and the only way I could manage to make it
unshowable was to use the HTML-editor and send a non-linked URL. So I am
as baffled as anyone else as to the reason why it acts as it does.

 Despite enjoying the ability to select and drag text around the window
 to different areas and all the other wonderful editing bells and
 whistles, I have decided to continue to use the old reliable MicroEd.
 I had not realized that the other editors did not wrap the text the
 way I created it, wrapping to the window instead.

Maybe it's a wrapping thing. Have you tried to shorten it trough
something like http://www.makeashorterlink.com ?

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Re: Your attachments

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Over here the attachments are called Part.txt. Should I be worried?

JSL seems to use TB v1.61
It's been a while, but I think TB1.6x showed PGP/MIME sigs as msg.att

BTW Jack, TB v1.62 is available for download from Ritlabs.

-- 
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Vacuums are nothings. We only mention them to let them know we know
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Re: %THEBATVERSION Extension

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Martin Webster wrote:

 Yes, readme.txt, which you will find in your TB! installation folder.

Hmmm.. That's strange...
It mentions Service release 2.11.01 but there's nothing about 2.11.02

-- 
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Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and
declared, A horse divided against itself cannot stand.. Franklin died
in 1790 and is still dead.


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Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-09 Thread Urban
Wednesday, June 9, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

U IMO that is simply not acceptable, by doing so I am implying to the
U receiver that if you are not using TB you are a wrong-doer.

 What is not acceptable about that? - scnr.

I guess I should have seen that one coming :-)

U There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in
U lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I
U could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily
U could be shown as emoticons.

 That's a good idea.

I haven't figured the bugtracker wishlist out yet. Feel free to add it
if you want to.

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Re: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-08 Thread Urban
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote:

A Did you send the message in HTML or plain text format?

 This is possibly the crux. I sent the link yesterday when we were
 going back and forth witht he various HTML/Plain Text changes, so I do
 not know. Is there a way to find out?

Send messages to yourself, using the different editors, then read the
messages using the different users.
But to save you the trouble I just did that, and found that if you send
using the HTML-editor you must add hyperlinks using the Add hyperlink
icon if the HTML-viewer is to see them as a hyperlink otherwise it
thinks they are plain text.

-- 
Urban

Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides
of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king.
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Re: Error message from Help screen

2004-06-08 Thread Urban
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, Maggie wrote:

 Add Hyperlink is where? Is it in the Edit Mail Message window? I
 looked under Utilities|Attach Files| and did not see it there.

In the Edit Mail Message Window, there is a row of icons; select font
and size and such thing. (If you don't see it, make sure you are in the
HTML-editor, then go to the View menu and check HTML Toolbar.) In this
row there is an icon that looks like a globe and a paper clip -- that's
the one.

-- 
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Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-07 Thread Urban
Sunday, June 6, 2004, Allie Martin wrote:

U In that case the person who gets the table can do something that is
U _much_ better: (S)he can tell the sender that doing tables like that
U isn't necessarily a good thing and show him or her a better alternative.

 .. the same can apply for the emoticon issue. In fact the emoticon
 issue is more easily solved.

I have tried to figure it out, please tell.
The best I could come up with that don't involve any change in how TB
works as of 2.11.02 would be to add a footnote If you are using TB and
see emoticons, please take the following steps. IMO that is simply not
acceptable, by doing so I am implying to the receiver that if you are
not using TB you are a wrong-doer.

 You cannot influence how your messages will be rendered by the
 receiving client. That's up to the client and the users settings.

Which could lead to some very unfortunate misunderstandings that isn't
easily resolved even by reading the source of the e-mail.

 You can minimize problems but you can't totally eliminate them.

I can check and I can re-check, yes, but that's about all there is. It
would be nice if the program gave me some help with this, though. For
example, there could be a spellcheck-like function that looked for
smilies.

snip

 It can be disabled permanently or via a toggle switch (right click in
 the viewer and select 'Smileys'). If the user finds an emoticon
 strangely placed, as I do at times, (s)he simply toggles off the
 smileys. I've done this for a few messages already.

There's another thing that could be helpful... If you could attach (in
lack of any better words) the toggle to the address book. That way I
could tell you that I might very well send meaningful text that easily
could be shown as emoticons.

-- 
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Alice laughed: There's no use trying, she said; one can't believe
impossible things. I daresay you haven't had much practice, said the
Queen. When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why,
sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before
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Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?

2004-06-06 Thread Urban
Sunday, June 6, 2004, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Correct, as the smiley-function in TB  has nothing to do with the
 author. It is only and exclusively up to the recipient to decide
 whether he wants Ascii-smileys replaced by icon-smileys.

Even a silly sentence as The dog says grr and the cat meows shouldn't
be interpreted as The dog says angry and the cat meows unless _I_ (the
sender) mean it to be so. I shouldn't have to think twice when writing
it, and the recipient shouldn't have to think twice when reading it
either.

 The smileys have nothing to do with the sender of an email, this is
 not HTML! You send the email as usual. The receipient, if he uses the
 RTV in TB, can choose to have the emoticons replace by smileys. It is
 his choice, and only his. Again: This has *nothing* to do with the
 sender.

This has /everything/ to do with the sender. It his, and only his,
responsibility to make sure that the message sent isn't ambiguous.
I've shown one way to make it so, another (and IMO a much better
approach) would be if there was a standardised header
X-Always-Show-Smileys-As-ASCII.

You asked me to stop this thread, well I tried to CC to TBOT, but I am
not subscribed there under this address. So I'll just hope that anybody
that does respond make a CC there. Fair enough?

-- 
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Queen Elizabeth was the Virgin Queen. As a queen she was a success.
When she exposed herself before her troops they all shouted hurrah.


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