rcover folder option: does it exist?
Hello, all. Currently using 4.0.24. In the past, I recall an option like Recover Folder or something like that. It would go through the defined directory structure and look for things that appear to be emails (tbb/tbi files), but does not exist within TB!. I've gone through the menus and the customiser, but I don't see anything like it. Does this option still exist? Or am I dreaming of something else? Thanks, -- WL Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keeping some older email on an exchange server
Hello, all. This is with TB! 4.0.24. I'm connecting to an exchange server via MAPI. I want to collect new emails withTB!, and only delete the email from the server if it is older than X days. I think there is a built-in way for POP accounts to do this. Is there a built in way to do this with an exchange account? I've tried some incoming filters that looks at the age of the email, but it doesn't seem to work. Once the email is collected and left on the server, it seems TB doesn't look at it again, so the age criteria is not properly applied. Thanks, -- WL Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
creating folders from the command line
Hello, all. I just installed 4.0.24, and trying to import my existing email. Is there a way to create mail folders within TB! from the command line? Or force /export to create the folder on the fly instead of dumping the messages into the Inbox? Thanks, -- WL Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
tb! starts and immediately stops: tbmain:StartThebat EStackOverflow Stack overflow
Hello, all. I recently restarted TB!, and it starts, and immediately dies. This is with 3.99.8, .6, and .3. In %appdir%\the bat!\ex_log.txt, I see this: v3.99.8 WLIAO/wliao 6/14/2007 7:33:36 PM tbmain:StartThebat EStackOverflow Stack overflow Since this happens on multiple versions, I'm assuming it's a setting thing. Short of uninstalling, and re-installing, is there anything else I can look at or tweak to try to debug this? -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hello, all. On 5/8/07, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon Roelof, It was foretold that on 8/5/2007 @ 16:59:22 GMT+0200 (which was 11:59:22 where I live) Roelof Otten would write: snipped a bit RO My smtp setting for gmail are: Mine are: SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com Grr... tired of futzing with this. I recreated the imap account with the exact same settings, and outgoing email works on the newly created account. Not sure what's going on... Now, to copy over my template settings Thanks for the suggestions and help, -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo WL, On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:28:54 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 2:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS. W The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I W have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific W settings selected. Try 'use same settings as mail retrieval' In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's SMTP server. Regardless of what username and password is used, the log indicates the smtp authentication is not happening. I expected to see something like C: AUTH LOGIN before the MAIL FROM: line, or even C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AUTH=blahblah but I don't see anything like that. W [18:49:11] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W [18:49:11] S: 530 authentication required - for help go to W http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html Did you follow that link? Yes. It says to enable smtp authentication. Hopefully, the cut sign will be intact -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 06:54:20 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 13:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP W blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's W SMTP server. Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and they're using a different port. You could try to reach them. Same problem: gmail says I need to be authorized first. Here's the log using gmail's smtp server. [07:43:34] C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465 [07:43:34] S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: EHLO WL [07:43:36] S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [65.42.208.133] [07:43:36] S: 250-SIZE 28311552 [07:43:36] S: 250-8BITMIME [07:43:36] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [07:43:36] S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES [07:43:36] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=305 [07:43:36] S: 530 5.5.1 Authentication Required f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: RSET [07:43:36] S: 250 2.1.0 Flushed f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: QUIT Again, no AUTH. BTW Can you send mail via your regular mail account at your ISP? Oddly enough, I can. Here's the smtp log from that: [07:49:56] C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465 [07:49:56] S: 220 smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP [07:49:58] C: EHLO WL [07:49:58] S: 250-smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [07:49:58] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE [07:49:58] S: 250-PIPELINING [07:49:58] S: 250 8BITMIME [07:49:58] C: AUTH PLAIN [07:49:58] S: 334 ok, go on [07:49:59] S: 235 ok, go ahead (#2.0.0) yay, auth... I went through and double checked the settings but I still can't send email out. The only difference that may matter is the non-sending account is really IMAP, and the second account is POP. Having said that, I'm not sure how why or how it would make a difference... -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Sorry, just a random sig test... On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippaged] Sig yes? It's weird... I thought it worked before... and emails sent to myself seem to have the trailing space... -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hello, all. With TB! 3.99.3, I seem to be unable to use smtp authentication. I'm getting a ``must first authenticate message'' from the server. I must be missing something... In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS. The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific settings selected. I've tried tests with and without the ``Require secure authentication'' selected but the results seem the same. The protocol logs say: [18:49:11] C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465 [18:49:11] S: 220 smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP [18:49:11] C: EHLO X [18:49:11] S: 250-smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [18:49:11] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE [18:49:11] S: 250-PIPELINING [18:49:11] S: 250 8BITMIME [18:49:11] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [18:49:11] S: 530 authentication required - for help go to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html [18:49:11] C: RSET [18:49:11] C: QUIT It doesn't even seem to be performing the AUTH step. Suggestions? -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Exporting to Apple
Hello, Richard. On 2/11/07, Richard H. Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Saturday, February 3, 2007, 12:51:32 AM, you wrote: CW Try exporting to a Unix mailbox. I'm starting the process of exporting folders, and it looks like I'll have to do them one by one. It does have to be done one by one, but it isn't too difficult to create a script to do this via command line. If the number of folders to be exported are not too many, create a batch script and just copy and edit the command line. I've always kept attachments in the body of the email; if it is not, that may be an issue. When I select export to unix, it doesn't select the file extension, and there is a very long list of options, including for every app on my computer (and then some), but I don't see anything for a unix mailbox. Any pointers? No, don't believe the hype!! :) The name of a file doesn't change the contents of the file. In this case, an extension isn't necessary. On the OSX side, the import process wants the files to be in a single directory, and the files are read in a separate file selector step. I think TB! exports the files with unix line endings, but Mail.app may only process files with dos line endings. This may need to be changed by hand as well. Address Book.app imports vcards, so that should be an easy export from TB! as well. I don't recall if line endings were an issue or not... -- WL Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: customiser shortcuts display is crooked
On 5/2/06, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WL, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Tuesday, May 2, 2006, 3:42:36 AM, you wrote: W When I add a keyboard shortcut through the customiser, W there is a text entry box to enter the keys. It seems off W kilter to me. W http://wliao.freeshell.org/shortcut_menu_off_kilter.png W Just wondering if other people see the same thing as I W do. Not here, sorry. What OS and Font i.e. Large Fonts are you using? http://www.cg-online.me.uk/1/sceditor.png I think this is the same thing as the folder property problem: XP Pro SP2, 120 DPI, bug 0005817. Thanks for the confirmation. -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
finding newer versions of TB!
Hello, all. This feels like a silly question, but oh well... I just got an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] about a bug that is fixed in version 3.81.01. Where would I find it? It doesn't seem to be listed on the main download page (3.80.03) , nor the beta page (3.80.01). Thanks, -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
customiser shortcuts display is crooked
Hello, all. I think this is a bug related to the high DPI issue previously reported as bug 0005817 (TB 3.80.03). When I add a keyboard shortcut through the customiser, there is a text entry box to enter the keys. It seems off kilter to me. http://wliao.freeshell.org/shortcut_menu_off_kilter.png Just wondering if other people see the same thing as I do. Thanks, -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder property bug in 3.80.03
Oooh..which thread which thread... On 4/29/06, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Windows Large Fonts interaction with TB!'s dialogue window code that is the issue. The BT report (which please support) is at: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5817 Point of clarification: is the Large Fonts in XP the Control Panel-Display-Appearance-Use Large Fonts box? I'm using XP SP2 and just installed 3.80.03. I have a similar problem as described above: text boxes and checkboxes on the edge of the window are are not displayed, even if the dialogue box is resized to the maximum. Currently, I do not have the Use Large Fonts enabled. I tried restarting TB! with Large Fonts enabled and disabled with similar results. -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Immediate Sending but Secretly, behind my back
On 4/25/06, Robert D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just writing a email in reply to a friend. It was a long reply. I type clumsily and can hit various combo's I think. A screen came up, perhaps a small Explorer Window ... dunno, but I dismissed it and went back to punching keys. [...] Why doesn't my TB! obey the Confirm B4 Send demand I make? Is it possible that the ``small Explorer Window'' is actually the confirmation window? -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how does remove duplicate email work?
Hello, all. Just as the subject says... I accidentally imported some emails into the wrong folder. So, I used the folder-maintenance center and right click-remove duplicates, but what I thought were duplicate emails were not removed. To double check, I compared the message-id field to make sure they are the same (and they are). What does TB! use to determine if 2 emails are duplicates of each other? Thanks, -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Renaming Inbox
On 4/6/06, Larry Wing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:56:20 -0700 GMT (07/04/2006, 08:56 +0700 GMT), TF Larry Wing wrote: LW I like to use the folder tabs and I have several Inbox's and it would LW be nice to be able to rename to see which account they are associated LW with. TF Which is exactly the reason I consider the Unread tab unusable. A good TF idea, but due to half-implementation just a waste of programming time. TF The account name should be shown in any subset of folders. TF I'll bring this up again in a few days; I don't remember whether I TF created a wish or a bugreport at the time. Thanks. I've found VF as a workaround but still agree that it needs account name diplayed with Inbox. Not a super great workaround either, but I add the Location column to the far right, and make it somewhat narrow. That is usually enough to let me identify which account it came from. I do this for the ticker view, as well. -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd vs Plain text
Hello, all. On 3/27/06, Martin Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Technically* I think it would be no problem to build mail clients that wrap unwrapped text automatically at a user-given width, so everyone would be able to read the mail just as wide as he wants. Everyone would send unwrapped lines, a CR/LF would mean start a new paragraph, and everyone would be happy. ...except this _will_ break some existing email clients. Outlook users do this a lot, and I used to use an email client that would crash on emails from Outlook users. I narrowed it down to a single, very long line. RFC 2822 (email format) says a line must not be longer than 998 characters not counting the CRLF, and should not be greater than 78. This is more or less what rfc 2821 (smtp) says about the maximum length of a line. Even within the format=flowed world, the line widths should be less than 80, and the recommendation is 66 characters (rfc 2646). So I gave up the hope for unwrapped mails a few years ago and looked for a good editor that at least makes the task of composing wrapped lines easier. Micro-Ed is just that. I do like how micro-ed can figure out what is quoted, and act like format=flowed display. Now, it just has do utf-8 encoding... -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
composing email with japanese characters in utf-8 w/ microed seems to fail
Hello, all. Coming back to a newer version of bat (3.71.03), and seeing if I may have missed something before filing a bug. I'm composing an email with japanese characters. Options-character set is set to unicode (utf-8). I can create the characters, but the words are left as ??? in the body. I'm pretty sure this isn't a font display issue: I can switch the editor font to something that I know can display the chracters, but I still end up with ???. Switching the encoding to another character set like JIS or EUC-JP will draw the character correctly. The windows editor will draw the characters correctly with utf-8. My preference, however, would be to use microed with utf-8. Any ideas? -- WL Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
On 2/2/06, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 08:29:17 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. If CC works properly then it abides to the Server Timeout, which is usually about 60 seconds (Account | Properties | Transport). If connection is not established within this time, CC simply closes/dismiss this account, for the session. I suppose this is part of the same problem. I've had the connection center hang for days before. CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's plugins, specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. Actually, I'm pretty sure the probelm stems from The Bat, and its handling of network connections. Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. I've written about this before: once all of The Bat's traffic is routed through a proxy of some sort (k9 and something homebrew), my connection center issues went away. Things will usually time out properly. If it doesn't, I can at least always delete the task, etc. -- WL Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WMF files
On 1/2/06, Robert D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Darrin squawked: He means to put them in the section under Disable these types of files Perfect, thanks to the both of you. Not sure how I missed that. Anyway, put the *.wmf in the disable now. ...except that this is something that happens regardless of the extension. The actual exploit will appear to be an image, and will have an extsion of jpg or bmp or whatever, _not_ wmf. Quoting from ISC's wmf faq (http://handlers.dshield.org/jullrich/wmffaq.html): * Should I just block all .WMF images? This may help, but it is not sufficient. WMF files are recognized by a special header and the extension is not needed. The files could arrive using any extension, or embeded in Word or other documents. -- WL Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On 11/25/05, Maurice McAdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marten, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 2:07:07 PM, which was 2:47:32 PM where I am, you wrote: AaA The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process AaA cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in AaA the Task Manager. AaA Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or AaA did it just 'go away' with the next version? I have had to use Task Manager on a regular basis, since TB! would hang every time I downloaded. I have upgraded, downgraded and upgraded again. I am delighted to say that my current version (3.62.14) - so far, anyway - is doing extremely well. Don't know anything about 'template functionality' though. I've been using TB since 2.x, and currently on 3.62.10. This hanging connection center thing has been around for a while... I've narrowed this down to an issue with how TB handles netwok connections (duh, right?). Using a VPN, I've been able to reproduce these symptoms on demand. Because of how the VPN works, I haven't been able to turn a packet sniffer on it to see what is really happening. All I can tell is that, for me, the hanging connection center will happen if the network connection is in a transitory state: the vpn is being setup or being torn down when TB hits the network. This is a case where the network seems ok, but it really isn't. Knowing/Assuming this, my workaround is to ensure the network connection is always solid through the use of proxies. I have 1 pop account that goes through k9 and then a ssh tunnel, and 1 pop and 1 imap through a proxy which then hits the vpn. If the connection center ever hangs, I can either stop the ssh tunnel or k9 to unwedge that account, or I can restart my local proxy to unwedge those accounts. I've been using this setup for about 3 or 4 months now, and I haven't had to force quit TB. Whee -- WL Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Versions 2 and 3 of The Bat Choke on some messages
On 11/24/05, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 24-Nov-2005 at 18:49 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: try using the dispatcher. the problem i used to have was a message with a virus which would never get downloaded and would show up every check. you can find it in the dispatcher and delete it there. I never had a hanging download with TB. I get only very few virus mails, but I do believe that these hangs have nothing to do with TB, but with a local virus scanner. About 1.5 years ago, I had problems downloading email with TB. It was a virus email, and I do not use a local virus scanner. Dispather dealt with it, though. When I examined the packet traffic, it seemed TB got stuck on some headers. Probably some mime header exploit that affected TB as well. I haven't had this happen since I restarted using TB, though. -- WL Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat slowing down.
On 10/4/05, K. Shantanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] [051003 02:23]: He could use archive folders without purge and compress settings for older mail. He should see whether there are a lot of messages in his inboxes that Thanks for the tips. We will indeed try folder maintenance and see the results. Well, I hope that works for you. The thing that bugs me is TB!'s insistence on counting all my emails on startup. Massive drive thrashing... Is there any way of getting TB! to cache this data or delay this activity or something like that? -- WL Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
encoding the subject line
Hey, all. Just wondering if anybody else has seen these problems, and have already reported it to the ritlab bug tracker. I spent some time looking on bt, but the closest I found is 0004848. Close, but not what I'm really after. This is 3.60.07 on XP. These are all problems with non-ascii characters in the header; specifically, non-ascii characters in the subject are not handled very well. First, when receiving emails with encoded non-ascii subjects, the subject is usually decoded and rendered properly in the preview pane and the message window (double click from the preview pane). However, it isn't rendered correctly in the ticker. A picture of this is at http://wliao.freeshell.org/subject_vs_ticker.png . Second, as implied above, the subject isn't decoded properly all the time. If the header is a single line, then it seems ok. But, if the subject is folded across multiple lines, the encoding seems to fall apart. Compare when folding is handled properly w/ ascii http://wliao.freeshell.org/multi_line_subject_good.png and and when not handled properly http://wliao.freeshell.org/multi_line_subject_bad.png . Last, there doesn't seem to be a way to compose an email w/ non-ascii subjects. I can input or paste in japanese words, but they become a series of when I send the email, or if I click through the header portion of the message editor. I've been working around this by hand encoding the subject and then pasting it into the email. -- WL Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: encoding the subject line
On 9/29/05, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello WL everyone else, on 29-Sep-2005 at 21:07 you (WL) wrote: These are all problems with non-ascii characters in the header; specifically, non-ascii characters in the subject are not handled very well. Even though TheBat is currently in a major re-write with the goal of full unicode support, I think you should report all of these issues on BT. After sending these, I did manage to find another bug report that seems germane (0002447). It was supposed to be fixed in 2.04, though :/ Last, there doesn't seem to be a way to compose an email w/ non-ascii subjects. I can input or paste in japanese words, but they become a series of when I send the email, or if I click through the header portion of the message editor. I've been working around this by hand encoding the subject and then pasting it into the email. This may depend on the charset you're using. I can compose messages with german non-ascii characters ä ö ü ß in the subject just fine, but the character set you're using looks a *bit* (or rather: byte:) more complex. Yup This seems to be the convention for email in Japanese. The text, in whatever characterset is appropriate, is encoded in base64 or as quoted printable. Then resultant string is then used in the subject with a tag that declares the character set of the original text, and the method of encoding (base64 vs QP). When looking through the ``raw'' email, the subject ends up like =?utf-8?B?BBBCCCDDD?= What's so frustrating is that viewing is possible, so somebody must have considered the issue of decoding subjects in this format. It seems a bit bizarre to me that the parallel function, composing, wasn't handled as well :/ -- WL Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
keyboard shortcuts menu
Hello, all. It's been a while since I last used The Bat!, so my memory may be failing me... I just downloaded and installed 3.51.10. I recall using a keyboard shortcut editor to assigne shortcuts for things like menu actions, etc. The help file references the menu item View-Edit shortcuts as do several emails in the archives. However, I cannot seem to find this item. Does it still exist? WL -- . Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unicode support?
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 00:55:41 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:37:40 +0200 GMT (30/09/2004, 23:37 +0700 GMT), Spam wrote: S I do not agree with you at all that Unicode is just a empty promise. IMHO Unicode is the future. What Edvinas meant is that *Unicode in TB* has been promised for a long time and still isn't there. So, I send 2 or 3 emails to information request from TheBat's menu, and I get no response. I publicly ask about the lack of responses, and then I get something. Go figure... About unicode, the response is: On Tuesday, September 7th, 2004, at 08:47:55 GMT +09:00 (IRKST) (at the same time it was 07/09/2004, 02:47:55 my local time), you wrote (at least in part): W Specifically, will there be support for unicode in version 3? It will be added as soon as possible. WL -- . Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[3]: folders not purging automatically
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:34:45 -0400, rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: llpc Some of my folder are not removing old messages according to the llpc settings I have made, when the Bat closes. How can I fix this? Do I llpc have to delete the folder and recreate it? SC x Maximum number of stored messages is 200 SC x Keep messages in base for (days) 20 SC On Exit SC x Remove old messagesx Compress the folder That feature has NEVER worked for me. Odd.. I thought this came up a few weeks ago... Go to account properties - Mail Management - Deletion and make sure ``Purge Unread messages'' is checked. WL -- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ritlab feedback email: does it work?
Hello, all. I've sent some bug reports, as well as requests for information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the Help - feedback email). I don't think I've ever gotten any sort of acknowledgement before. Has anybody gotten any kind of response from these 2 email addresses? WL -- . Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Junk Mail Folder Failure
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:46:19 -0500, Bill McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've set Keep mail in base for (days): 0 On exit its set to remove old messages and compress the folder. Closing and restarting TB finds mail still in the Junk mail folder - some of it several days old. I've tried setting the days to 1 but still nothing gets removed. This is true in 3, beta 6 7. Bug or feature? I'm still on v2, so this may be different, etc. Make sure the Account Property - Mail Management - Deletion ``Purge Unread messages'' is checked. WL -- . Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
thebat v3 and unicode
Hello, all. Just looking through the feature list on ritlabs.com and browsing through the mailing list. I see a reference to the anti-virus API now supports unicode in version 2.12. Is unicode in in header/body of the email supported as well? I'm trying out v3 right now, but it doesn't seem like unicode characters are displaying correctly. WL -- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Alternatives
Saturday, November 8, 2003, 5:47:43 PM, rich gregory wrote: rg (I doubt what irritates you is either exclusively or rg entirely Microsoft client users who do things just to rg irritate you!!) The problem is not inconsiderate (or rg uneducated) users. It is a lack of conventions 1) of the rg many cultures of internet users and 2) across software rg publishers. There is a convention: it's called rfc 2822. From http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html: Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding the CRLF. The document goes on to describe how those numbers are obtained. rg Instead of each and every user trying to set their own rg wrap at some arbitrary number that they hope other users will rg be OK with the world would be a better place if we only press rg CR at the end of paragraphs and let our email clients wrap rg text so it fits on the screen. (Now it is up to the email rg client publishers to figure how to fix this!) blagh. This potentially breaks the upper limit of rfc2822, and does break some email clients. This is why I switched to TheBat: people NOT using the return key will create lines that are very, very long that crashes some email clients out there. Is there such a limit to TheBat? Who knows...I did send a 900 character line once, and it seems ok. WL Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: tb2: max number of messages not purging
Saturday, September 20, 2003, 11:14:00 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:37:59 -0500 GMT (21/09/2003, 05:37 +0700 GMT), TF WL wrote: I've recreated folder, check the integrity; any suggestions on how to debug this? TF This should be fixed in the current version. I suggest you download TF 2.00.6 and see whether your problem persists. I moved to 2.00.6, and this still happens. Ech... I sent an email to the ritlab bugs. heh... Most bats eat bugs, right? WL Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
tb2: max number of messages not purging
Hello. I have a few folders set to keep a max number of messages stored, but one (and only one, it seems) folder stores more messages than the set limit. Using the menu command purge+compress, TB reports nothing to do. Going to the Maintenance Center and only selecting the folder for Purge old/exceeding messages, TB reports that there is nothing to do as well. The other folders seem ok...just this one. I've recreated folder, check the integrity; any suggestions on how to debug this? WL Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
maintenance centre settings does not persist
Is there a way to make the maintenance centre settings ``stick'' between runs? It's nice that I can choose which folders to purge, etc, but not so nice if I have to reselect the same folders every time. WL Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
synching mail not in inbox w/ palm
Hey, all. I have my palm pilot synching away on the inbox, and that part of it seems to work as described in the tbudl faq. The problem is how I deal w/ mail; ie, I use filters extensively, and the only mail left in the inbox, usually, are mail that I haven't confined to spam jail. Since the mail conduit seems to only grab mail from the inbox, I get no mail, or only spam. I've tried various forms of moving the email into the destination folder and leaving a copy in the inbox, etc, but that leaves my mail in a strange state where mail is always left unread, or in a mixed state where I can't tell if a particular piece of mail is read or not. For TheBat users who synch with their palm pilot: how are the emails handled? What is the filter strategy that works? WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: synching mail not in inbox w/ palm
Tuesday, August 12, 2003, 5:39:37 AM, Ricardo Marte wrote: RM I got an Axim for Christmas and had been an unhappy Outlook user for RM some time. Every once in a while I would switch to Netscape but found RM myself forced to Use Outlook because of the Calender/E-mail RM integration. When I saw theBat! supports Calendar/E-mail integration RM (in a limited sense) and would be expanding on it, I decided to RM purchase it. However, I do miss having contacts in my PDA address RM book. Because I got rid of Outlook the PDA erased them! I also miss For this, I manually export contacts as vcard or ldif to move them around. TB's address book can pick up vcard or spit out ldif, and the palm desktop program thingie can pick up ldif and spit out vcard. I'm reasonably happy with moving data around in that fashion; the danger comes when I alter data in one and forget to sync immediately to flush the changes. RM not being able to take my e-mails with me on road. If theBat! added RM the ability to Sync, Outlook would lose any comparison, hands down. yup...TB is nice, and synching would be icing... WL RM I would also be willing to pay for this extra functionality even as an RM addon to theBat! RM - Ricardo RM RM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: RM http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Center Hangs While Checking Mail Headers
Thursday, July 24, 2003, 10:16:37 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote: CM [replying to self] CM Well, I don't know what the problem was, but since this was for my Yahoo CM account, I went to the web mail page and cleared out the messages using CM my web browser. Must've been a corrupt message on the server. Problem CM solved (at least for now). ..OTOH, I get a similar problem with 1.62r. When checking mail and connection center set to automatic, the communication center window will usually pop up and go away of its own accord. Every once in a while (3-5 times a day with 15min automatic checks), the communication center window will sit on the screen with no messages or tasks, and the abort and delete task window will have no affect. If I manually force a check (F2 key), the comm. center window gets re-used, and goes away correctly. I have a feeling this only happens when mail is actually downloaded, but have no other particulars at this point. It seems all the messages are downloaded correctly, though. At first, I thought it was related to the virtual desktop thingie I was playing with, but if somebody else is reporting a similar problem... WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Logic for the Inbox - Known filtering
Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 2:28:47 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 3:09:00 PM, MAU wrote: M Are you using any filter to sort messages classified as spam M by POPFile? If so, this filter should be placed _before_ the M Known filter. DK I've got the Known filter first. Sometimes people I want to get DK e-mail from will send a note that has spam-like material in it. I DK don't want to lose those messages. ...but that defeats the purpose of training material. Within popfile, one can create magnets to force a classification, or just let popfile work its mathemagic and train the email detection. WL DK -- DK Dave Kennedy DK DK Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: DK http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
treating an attachment as a text file
I used to use mutt for a mail client, and it has some really cool abilities. For one thing, it is the fastest mail client I've ever used when it came to opening up a large mailbox (no separate index file, to boot). It also has the nice ability to forcibly open an attachment as a text file. For instance, if somebody sends me a batch script as an attachement, ``opening'' the file would actually run the file. Mutt has the ability to ``open as text for viewing'' the file, as well as ``open for running'' the file. This gives the nice ability to look at a file without going through the save process Does TheBat have this kind of functionality? WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FCC like ability
ok...so this question got lost in my last email about threading... I'd like to be able to automatically re-file sent mail to specific folders. What I don't want to have to do is create all sorts of funny rules in the sorting office to do this. Is there a way of doing this through the templates? WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
threading by ref _and_ subject
ooh..look at me...I'm using folder templates :) Anyways, I usually have my email sorted w/ threads. Unfortunately, some webmail software doesn't use the references header, so threads break. I can switch back and forth between references and subject based threading, but it would be nice if I can have TB use references (if available), then by subject. Is this possible? In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for threading? WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
setting arbitrary out folders (Re: threading by ref _and_subject)
Monday, June 16, 2003, 4:34:10 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: BM On Mon 16-Jun-03 5:23pm -0400, WL wrote: In a similar vein, some sofware doesn't use references; instead, they use In-reply-to. Can that be used for threading? BM I believe that's already handled. yeah...it does work as advertised, once I find the right email to create the link. ...which brings me to my next question To fill in the gaps of a thread, I need a copy of the outgoing message in the folder where the message where I'm replying to resides. It seems TB only puts messages into the Sent Mail folder. How can I set an arbitrary out box? I tried to adapt the threading example in the QT library, but it is too complex for me right now. The entire goal of this is to get threading to ``work well.'' The cases where threading breaks for me is: 1) the respondent uses some crappy email client that doesn't set in-reply-to or references header; 2) I respond to an email, and somebody responds to me, while only setting the in-reply-to field. 1 requires subject threading, which is apparently being planned. 2 requires my outgoing mail to be dumped into the same folder as the original email. Any suggestions? WL Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
