Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hallo Tom, On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:33:25 +1000GMT (26-6-2008, 3:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz T addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses In that case just stop adding all addresses to your address book. Or change your filter that adds those addresses so that it checks whether the address exists in your AB before adding it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.23 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpriyxLCCOEo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:22:54 AM, you wrote: T Sorry, you are right, my quoting these addresses was incorrect. The address T appears as follows: T _Paul XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] T Paul-XYZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] T I think there was a third version but I cannot find it quickly. The T email address is the same but the way it is being presented prior to T the xxx is different (probably due to the way it is being set up in T Paul's email program and this seems to cause my little issue here. T Hope this makes it clearer Unless I'm missing something, which is quite frequently the case, it looks like you're trying to prevent your replies from including the dashes or underscores in the reply salutation. If I've guessed correctly, it looks like this is a job for a properly constructed RegExp which would automagically trim those characters from your reply salutation. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no knowledge on how to construct/use RegExps but there are others on this amazing list who do. The only reason I can think of for why someone would include odd characters in their name is that they might be trying to track the origins of subsequent spam. Hope I haven't clouded the issue any further. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Everyone, I raised this issue before and while I understand the cause now, I have not yet fully solved the problem. Here is my problem: One of my contact is using the same email address @xyztrading.com with different prefixes (not sure why). So while most of his emails come in as [EMAIL PROTECTED], some are received as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have set up my system to reply with a macro along the lines Dear %ABOFromFName, which should lead to Dear Paul, ... However each time I receive a new email from the _paul or paul-xyz addresses, they also end in my address book as new addresses and lead to the reply to be created as Dear _Paul or Dear Paul-XYZ. So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes with the various prefixes). How do I manage this issue on my side without telling Paul to stop annoying me? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply/macro/filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:03:25 AM, you wrote: So, I either need to amend the salutation manually or go into the addressbook to remove the duplicate entry for Paul (it's duplicate as the email address is always the same, just the way it appears changes with the various prefixes). How can the following three email addresses be called same: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To me they look like three distinct email addresses. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:25:06 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the message headers and can kill the message from server before the full message will be downloaded. However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble. Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action for selective download filters. Fair enough. If someone had a dial up Internet connection and had lots of big spam messages come through, it sounds like this approach might be tailor made for them. 'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete from server' My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you) so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too. Thanks - most of my spam is unknown, but this particular address is nothing but, so I can safely set it to 'delete the message'. I can use the other approach for the spam (unknown) filter though. The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I can't comment on how to achieve that. Thanks - I'm using Agent via gmane. I've updated the signature block in the Agent options. Yes. Cool - I think different programs must adhere to a different standard. I've seen newsreader programs which work fine with the '--' (without space), but The Bat needs the space by the looks of it. Oh well, no problem. -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:15:36 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was C processed by Spam (Known). That's good, isn't it? ;-) Yes - it would seem that the filter is catching the message, which is great. C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? Are you sure it still is present on your server? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action. In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded travel through the Inbox. As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days on the server. The message has gone from the server - I have The Bat set to remove all messages on download anyway. I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought that it looked at the from address while the message was still on the server, and then would delete it without needing to download it. What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first place? C -- Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further line down. Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:05:17 +1000GMT (10-6-2008, 10:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I have misunderstood that option in the first place - I thought C that it looked at the from address while the message was still on C the server, and then would delete it without needing to download C it. Well, you do that with selective download filters, those download the message headers and can kill the message from server before the full message will be downloaded. However, I've never used them myself as they lengthen the download time substantially, because the message headers will be downloaded twice, once to compare them with the selective download filters and a second time when the complete message is downloaded. With my message mix (lots of short messages) that isn't worth the trouble. Furthermore I don't kill on arrival and that's the only useful action for selective download filters. C What actions do I need so that I never see the message in the first C place? 'Delete the message', that's the action listed right above 'Delete from server' My server does my spam marking, it adds a spam header and I've set TB to move those messages to a spam folder and mark them as read (you know that you can set multiple actions to a single filter, don't you) so I won't see it unless I'm browsing my spam folder to check for false spam marks. So that could be an option for you too. C Ah nuts :( I'm not sure what the problem with it is - I set it to be C the two dashes and then a blank line under that with my name a further C line down. The blank lie isn't necessary, but it's supposed to consist of dash dash space on a single line, but as you aren't using TB on the list I can't comment on how to achieve that. C Ok, I've tried a change - does this one work any better? Yes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.17 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5QiirgIjjo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Spam Filter
Hi, I have a filter thus: Name: Spam (Known) Condition: Sender Contains @neco.com.au Action: Delete the Message from the Server Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was processed by Spam (Known). Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000, Grumpy Gamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The Oops, list has munged the email. Let's try expanding it out a little: Neco less than sign newsletter at @ neco dot com dot au greater than sign -- Regards, GG Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Spam Filter
Hallo Chris, On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:00:08 +1000GMT (9-6-2008, 19:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C Today I received an email from Neco [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The C filter was triggered (the account log says that the email was C processed by Spam (Known). That's good, isn't it? ;-) C Problem is, the message was then delivered to my inbox (and it says C that in the same line in the account log also). Can anyone tell me C why the Action did not occur (delete from server)? Are you sure it still is present on your server? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the action. In order to decide whether the message matches the condition the message has to be downloaded. And all messages that are downloaded travel through the Inbox. As the only action that gets executed is deletion from the server, the downloaded copy stays put in the Inbox. Deletion from server is an action that's meant to be used when you keep your messages for x days on the server. C -- Your signature delimiter isn't working properly. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.17 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpHrW9R90S7M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Gunivortus,
Saturday, April 26, 2008, 12:50:12 PM, you wrote:
Often there's an unknowm name added, like:
- From: hewett kalappa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- From: brand hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- From: Amazing Watches [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 'recieved from' paths are of course wrong.
Lots of different servers send me bouncing and similar mails for it.
How could I filter them as spam, but 'good' returned mails exclude from it?
Maybe try something like this but add something to the header
contains none of to pick up your own genuine bounces - like your name...
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [A9DF5589.01C6BD8F.11AE46F0.7483A6B4]
Name: Mail\20Delivery\20System
Filter:
{\0D\0A\20`0`10`Mail\20Delivery\20System/0D/0AMail\20Delivery\20Subsystem/0D/0AMAILER-DAEMON/0D/0APostmaster\0D\0A1`2`10`Returned\20mail/0D/0AReturned\20to\20Sender/0D/0ADelivery\20Failure/0D/0Afailure\20notice/0D/0ADelivery\20Status\20Notification/0D/0AUndelivered\20Mail/0D/0AUndeliverable\20mail/0D/0Acould\20not\20be\20delivered/0D/0AUndeliverable\20Email\0D\0A0`5`12`TBUDL/0D/0Atbudl\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CMail_Delivery_System
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
Best regards,
MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalising animal.
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Filter
Hi, my emailaddress is massive used for spreading spam, I get every day lots of emails from for me unknown server, telling me some message I should have sent some someone there, can't be delivered. Now I want to make a filter for that. But I don't know how and what... The used emailaddres (mine) is correct. Often there's an unknowm name added, like: - From: hewett kalappa [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: brand hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Amazing Watches [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 'recieved from' paths are of course wrong. Lots of different servers send me bouncing and similar mails for it. How could I filter them as spam, but 'good' returned mails exclude from it? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.24 under Vista Ultimate 32 bit Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Search filter for any text?
I'm trying to set up a saved-search virtual folder to show all messages with text in the Memo field. I've gotten it working by setting it to search all memos for (a space character without quotes). However, this won't find single-word memos. Regular expressions don't seem to work here (or I don't understand the syntax). Can someone please tell me what the best way of doing this would be? Thanks in advance. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v4.0.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter questions
Hi group, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. Exceptions: - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Best wishes, Harald Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hello REZK945, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. I'm not familiar with gpg or pgp, etc., but I assume there must be something unique to those messages. An specific header field, or textt within the body. Let's assume the uniqueness is -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- in the body. You would need a filter with condition: Text .does not contain. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and with Action 'Send automatic reply'. For my explanations below, lets call this filter 'GPG Filter' Exceptions: My suggestion would be to NOT include exceptions in the same filter with .AND NOT. conditions, but to set up a separate filter for each exception. Much more clear and easier to manage. Your filter structure should be: Exception 1 Exception 2 ... GPG Filter For this structure to work, nonre of the filter should have the 'Continue processing with other filters' option selected. - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? Yes, I thing using an AB Groups is a much better idea. Exception 1 Filter Address groups groupname contains sender - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. Exception 2 filter Subject contains newsticker .OR. Sublect contains newsletter - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? This would be your 'Exception 3' filter, and you must look for something unique in those messages. Perhaps the domain of the sender?. If so: Exception 3 filter Header field From: contains @amazon.com .OR. Header field From: contains @ebay.com - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe with something like: Recipient match RegExp But I am not at all familiar with Regular Expressions to suggest one. Sorry. Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Just add a new filter before the GPG one. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Hope mine are of some help. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another filter request
Hello Everyone, I have another filter request and hope the experts here can provide me with an easy to copy filter. I am saving all attachments separate from the email body on my harddrive in a special folder. Some of my partners seem to use outlook and their emails also contain useless winmail4.dat files or companyname_email_logo5.gif as further attachments. (the digits in the files vary). I currently delete these manually from my harddrive. Is there a way to have these stripped automatically? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hi On Saturday 26 January 2008 at 6:03:35 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Costas Papadopoulos wrote: One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I just use The Bat!'s own filters system. Needs only occasional tweaking. No automated figures available but I would guess 95% to 99% effective. Very few falsely moved to spam folders once you get the filters right. I generally get very little spam (1-5 per day) but every few months I will get a deluge of about 3000-4000 spread over a few days. My filters usually only miss about 25-30 of this deluge, just means my spam is predictable. Somebody using Regular Expressions could probably achieve greater accuracy. -- Best regards, MFPA Don't cry because it is over - smile because it happened Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 6:03:14 PM, you wrote: I would ideally like to isolate spam for inspection rather than have it automatically deleted. Mailwasher does not automatically delete on the server. Instead you run it as a separate program and it shows you all incoming email before you retrieve these emails to your email programs. It has a leaning filter but you can inspect all flagged emails prior to processing. Once you process, then good emails are either downloaded to your pc into your email program or deleted on the server and never make it onto your pc. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 at 08:03:35 +0200, Costas wrote: One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I have used Popfile for several years very satisfactorily, but I use it for more than just classifying spam/not spam, I use it to classify mail into multiple work and personal categories. I also use Antispamsniper for The Bat as a backup program, although in relation to spam it usually exactly matches Popfile. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hi Costas, on Saturday, January 26, 2008 at 07:03 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello, One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I use MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net/) and for me it is very good! Thanks for any advice. -- Best regards, Roland I use The Bat! v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) Pro under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Yasus Costas, -- Samstag, 26. Januar 2008, 08:03:35: One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I am also using Antispamsniper (ASS). A the beginning of last year I've made a screen shot of the statistics and repeated this at the end of last year. The results where: - Error Rate: 0.95% - False Negative: 0.89% - False Positive: 0.06% I think this is pretty good. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
I use Agava licensed version. But completely unsatisfied. Above all, their set up file always setting up adware.They claim that it is auto removabl by license key input, but exactly not! If you have huge numbers of spam , i use MailWasher for business emails! It works just great. As a add-in to the BAT, i am also looking for recommendation. Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:03:35 PM, you wrote: Costas Papadopoulos Hello, Costas Papadopoulos One of my email addresses has recently started Costas Papadopoulos being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam Costas Papadopoulos filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. Costas Papadopoulos Thanks for any advice. Saturday, January 26, 2008 -- Sadi Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hi Costas, One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. Like Henk, I use AntiSpam Sniper, too. Only on rare occasions will a previous version not work with an Alpha or Beta test version of TB!. It is toally configurable, and for the price can save you hours of agravation. -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 OTFE enabled Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hello Costas, I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. Yet another vote for AntispamSniper. Here are my current statistics: Received messages: 46324 Error rate:0.28% False negatives: 0.25% False positives: 0.04% -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.99.29 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hello Robin, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 10:08:50 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I have used Popfile for several years very satisfactorily, but I use it for more than just classifying spam/not spam, I use it to classify mail into multiple work and personal categories. I decided to try out POPFile. First impressions are good, although it's too early for me to come to a final conclusion. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hello, One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. Thanks for any advice. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
I use K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) as an external program and am fully satisfied with it. An exerpt from my stats : - Time period : 380 days - Number of mails processed : 4618 - percentage of good mail : 26.94% - percentage of spam : 73.06% - false positive : 10 - false negative : 8 It is an abandonware since 2004 but it works quietly and smoothly with win xp and is really easy to configure. -- pascal Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, at 08:03:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:03 where I live) Costas Papadopoulos wrote: One of my email addresses has recently started being flooded by spam. I wonder which spam filtering program you would recommend for me to use with The Bat. I am using the free version of Antispamsniper for the Bat! plugin and am very pleased with it! - -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.14 (ALPHA) Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgptQI7cU0nEt.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Hello Ian and Henk, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 8:39:19 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I am using the free version of Antispamsniper for the Bat! plugin and am very pleased with it! I know people who use Mailwasher Pro and they also say it's very good. In my case I don't have any serious restriction with the mail server quota and I would ideally like to isolate spam for inspection rather than have it automatically deleted. I'll follow up all suggestions given. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 12:03:30 PM, you wrote: T Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens T first. Don't inactivate any filter. Just take that frigging tickmark off the Continue option in the first filter, that's all. Thomas, thanks again for your patience. Everything is working fine now. I realise that I did not fully understand the meaning of the sequential filters and the tickmark. I believed that without the tickmark the following filters would not come into play at all (even for other messages). I also thought once a message had been moved following filters were not relevant anymore. I will be more careful with my filtering in future. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:02:50 +1100 GMT (22/01/2008, 19:02 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T thanks again for your patience. T Everything is working fine now. You are most welcome. Thanks for your feedback. -- Cheers, Thomas. Was ist ein Optimist ? - Jemand der das eine Fernsehprogramm langweilig findet und auf das andere umschaltet! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:12 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T here we go again: T 1. Filter: This is in Account A. It moves the messages to the bounce folder in Account B. You say it works. T 2. Filter: Is this also in Account A? Since the first filter is set to continue, the messages will now be moved back from the Bounce folder to the Customer In folder. My suggestion: Take the Continue tickmark off the 1. Filter. T 3. Filter: If this is in Account B, the message won't be filtered. The filters are only triggered when messages arrive in the account directly, not via filtering action. T hope that helps. Yes, I imported the filters and took a look at the settings. If I got it right in which accounts the filters are, I hope this helps you. If I am mistaken about the accounts, please clarify before I delete the filters again from my Sorting Office. -- Cheers, Thomas. Unter dem Einfluss von Alkohol griff eine naechtliche Polizeistreife einen Pkw-Fahrer aus Minden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hi On Monday 21 January 2008 at 5:09:16 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher W. wrote: If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. Wow that's cool! Is it a TB! feature or a general wp feature? -- Best regards, MFPA Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter Help
Hi Christopher, On Monday, January 21, 2008 at 12:09:16 AM you wrote: C Thomas Fernandez @ 2008-1-20 7:56:57 PM C Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from there into the Sorting Office. C If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a C columnar selection. I always used to do a right click and choose Block type|Column. ALT is MUCH easier! Thanks, Chris. -- Regards, Maggie Many a good hanging prevents a bad marriage. -Twelfth Night Emailing with The Bat! 3.99.29 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
MFPA @ 2008-1-21 9:39:23 AM Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. Wow that's cool! Is it a TB! feature or a general wp feature? It seems to be a feature of more powerful text editors, like MicroEd and my Notepad replacement, Programmer's Notepad (http://www.pnotepad.org/). There is also line selection mode, which selects lines at a time. The normal is stream selection mode. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. If you hear an onion ring, answer it. pgpNB3Y5L77p5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 11:08:29 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:12 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T here we go again: T 1. Filter: This is in Account A. It moves the messages to the bounce folder in Account B. You say it works. T 2. Filter: Is this also in Account A? Since the first filter is set to continue, the messages will now be moved back from the Bounce folder to the Customer In folder. My suggestion: Take the Continue tickmark off the 1. Filter. T 3. Filter: If this is in Account B, the message won't be filtered. The filters are only triggered when messages arrive in the account directly, not via filtering action. T hope that helps. Yes, I imported the filters and took a look at the settings. If I got it right in which accounts the filters are, I hope this helps you. If I am mistaken about the accounts, please clarify before I delete the filters again from my Sorting Office. Thomas, thanks for your assistance. You are right with respect to the accounts but that does not fully solve the issue. I understand now that my third filter only works on bounces aimed to Account B directly. So this won't help me with bounces from my automated account. However I would still like to filter bounces from this account to the bounce folder. Your suggestion to remove the second filter causes a problem due to a misunderstanding. The first filter moving bounces from Account A to Account B does not work correctly. Instead of moving the messages to the Bounce Folder of Account B, it drops the messages into Customer In / Account B. Or more likely, it does not work at all as the second filter on Account A is meant to do exactly that. The reason is that the account is not only used for automated emails but also for customers trying to contact us by form. I am not sure I understand the logic behind your suggestion re 2. Filter. You indicate that as my first filter is set to continue, the second filter may undo the work of the first filter. I will test your suggestion but would have thought that once moved based on 1. Filter, the second filter should not have any power over those emails anymore. If it works this way, can we amend the 2. Filter to exclude certain emails? Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens first. Thanks for your help. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:29 +1100 GMT (22/01/2008, 04:16 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T Thomas, thanks for your assistance. You are right with respect to the T accounts but that does not fully solve the issue. OK. Good that we are clear which filter is in which account. T I understand now that my third filter only works on bounces aimed T to Account B directly. So this won't help me with bounces from my T automated account. Correct. T However I would still like to filter bounces from this account to T the bounce folder. That's what the third filter does. Nothing wrong with it. T Your suggestion to remove the second filter causes a problem due to T a misunderstanding. No! I don't suggest you remove any filter. T The first filter moving bounces from Account A to Account B does T not work correctly. Instead of moving the messages to the Bounce T Folder of Account B, it drops the messages into Customer In / T Account B. The first filter moves the messages into the Bounce folder. It works. T I am not sure I understand the logic behind your suggestion re 2. T Filter. T You indicate that as my first filter is set to continue, the T second filter may undo the work of the first filter. Exactly. In order for your requirements to work, you need to take the tickmark off the Option Continue with other fitlers from the FIRST filter. When happens now is that the first filter moves the message to the Bounce folder (check out Folder / Browse Deleted in that folder for illustration), and then the second filter again moves it, this time to the Customer In folder. The only way to prevent this is by telling the first filter to stop processing the messages it catches. Then the second filter won't be applied. T I will test your suggestion but would have thought that once moved T based on 1. Filter, the second filter should not have any power T over those emails anymore. Usually it doesn't. But you explicetely gave it this power by ticking on Continue with other filters. Take the tickmark off and you'll be fine. T If it works this way, can we amend the 2. Filter to exclude certain T emails? What do you have in mind? T Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens T first. Don't inactivate any filter. Just take that frigging tickmark off the Continue option in the first filter, that's all. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Unter dem Einfluss von Alkohol griff eine naechtliche Polizeistreife einen Pkw-Fahrer aus Minden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom,
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:38:17 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 14:38 +0700 GMT),
Tom wrote:
T What exactly do you want me to post? I thought I had provided the
T details of the filter already?
To post the filter, you right-click on it and choose copy. Then you
paste it into your message. I am posting my TBUDL filter here for
demonstration:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [2E74A880.01C4933A.0405FBCE.7C686508]
Name: TBUDL
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`2`Reply-To:.*TBUDL\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGmane\5CBat\20TBUDL
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
Now, anybody can copy and paste this block into the Sortiung Office
and then test teh filter, or see what the conditions etc are.
T I thought I had provided the details of the filter already?
Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
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display screen.
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Filter oddities
Thius may, or may not be connected with the other thread about filters, but reading that has propted me to try and sort out a filter weirdeness that I have been having. My difficulty in explaining is related to not being sure about the terminology for naming different species of folder. I have the usual email account folders - i.e: one per email account. I also have folders I have created within a folder called 'Other Accounts' Email to these is from clients arrives having been re-directed at the server to my main email account which filters the incoming mail on the 'To' and places them in the relevant client folders under 'Other Accounts' The problem is that any further filter opeations on those emails does not work automatially but does work when manually triggered. And yes - filters are set to continue processing, and yes filters are set to be automatic not manually triggered. Unless, of course, I am missing something. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.29 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 7:47:17 PM, you wrote:
To post the filter, you right-click on it and choose copy. Then you
paste it into your message. I am posting my TBUDL filter here for
demonstration:
Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something.
thanks - I am sure you are right - here are the details:
This filter is on the account that actually carries the incoming
message:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The following filter is again on the incoming account and set behind
the first filter - this one works though does not help with the bounce
as it captures everything:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The third filter below is on the main account. I assume if the first
filter worked properly, I would not even need the second filter.
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
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Re: Filter Help
Hi On Sunday 20 January 2008 at 8:47:17 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something. Like maybe a tick in continue processing with other filters? -- Best regards, MFPA No matter where you go, there you are. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello MFPA, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:06:51 + GMT (21/01/2008, 04:06 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something. M Like maybe a tick in continue processing with other filters? We will see this when we import the filters. -- Cheers, Thomas. BALDERDASH: Rapidly receding hairline http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:39:16 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 03:39 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is on the account that actually carries the incoming T message: TB! Message Filter Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from there into the Sorting Office. I'm not going through this trouble. Just copy and paste into the mail straightforward. -- Cheers, Thomas. If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 12:56:57 PM, you wrote:
TB! Message Filter
Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you
posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word
processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from
there into the Sorting Office.
sorry about this :(
here we go again:
1. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
2. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
3. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
hope that helps.
--
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Re: Filter Help
Thomas Fernandez @ 2008-1-20 7:56:57 PM Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from there into the Sorting Office. If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. How do I set my laser printer on stun? pgpnUlzaUWxDC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Help
Hello Everyone, despite testing, tweaking and tearing of hairs, I am still having trouble with a specific filter and hope someone here can help me. I would like to filter bounce messages coming from a website into a specific folder. Customers receive a confirmation email when placing orders or registering, but some of these emails bounce due to incorrect details provided. As the confirmation email comes from Account A used for website queries via a form and automated emails, the bounce is addressed to Account A. Under this account I already have a filter to forward any emails to Account B (which is the active account used for individual emails written to customers). This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to the folder \Account B\Customer in. This works fine. I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. I had some variations on this before but nothing works - the emails are being dumped into the Customer in Folder coming later in the filtering. I set up a second filter on the Account B similar to above to move all bounces into the Bounce Folder but again, this is being ignored - however does work when filtering manually. Looking at the bounce messages, they are from Mail Delivery Subsystem or Mail Delivery System (not sure why the difference) and have the subject line Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender. Is there a better criteria I should look for in the header for my filter or another reason why my setup is failing. I just would like all incoming mails in Account B with the bounces separated from the other emails. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, A reminder of what Tom typed on: Saturday, January 19, 2008 at 10:41:08 GMT +1100 T Is there a better criteria I should look for in the header for my T filter or another reason why my setup is failing. I just would like T all incoming mails in Account B with the bounces separated from the T other emails. I use a filter that filters on the Subject as follows: Subject contains any of the following Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed Delivery Status Notification (Failure) failure notice Mail status report Mail System Error - Returned Mail Returned mail: see transcript for details Undeliverable: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This seems to work OK, but I don't kknow why your method should not work, assuming you have everything setup correctly. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:08 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to T the folder \Account B\Customer in. T This works fine. T I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: T if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon T move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. This should work, I think. You also said that you put the filter ahead of the customer filter, which is important, as the filters are checked from top to bottom, in that order. I believe there is another problem, somewhere were you didn't look. If possible, I suggest you post the filter here so we can play with it. -- Cheers, Thomas. If you have a glass eye, tap on it occasionally with your pen while talking to others. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 1:43:54 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:08 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to T the folder \Account B\Customer in. T This works fine. T I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: T if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon T move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. This should work, I think. You also said that you put the filter ahead of the customer filter, which is important, as the filters are checked from top to bottom, in that order. I believe there is another problem, somewhere were you didn't look. If possible, I suggest you post the filter here so we can play with it. What exactly do you want me to post? I thought I had provided the details of the filter already? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: Filter
Hello MAU, Thursday, January 17, 2008, 2:01:26 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Peter, What is wrong with my filtering? Thanks for the advise. MAU Disable your filter and try a new one with: MAU Header field - Reply-To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU I have had mine set up that way for years and never failed. Thanks. Checked for 2 days, it appears OK. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Fwd: Filter
Hello Peter, What is wrong with my filtering? Thanks for the advise. Disable your filter and try a new one with: Header field - Reply-To - contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had mine set up that way for years and never failed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Fwd: Filter
This is a forwarded message From: Peter Kerekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 6:05:16 PM Subject: Filter ===8==Original message text=== Hello, I have set up filters to send messages to the proper folders. They work well, also my spam mail is filtered properly except.. the mail tbbeta approx 1/4 goes into the spam folder instead of the tbbeta folder. When I run the REFILTER from the Folder menu, it will find all the tbbeta mail and move it to the proper location. I tried all kinds of sorting as shown on the screen saved attachment but somehow 3-4 mail goes there every time I collect mail. What is wrong with my filtering? Thanks for the advise. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP Service Pack 2 ===8===End of original message text=== since the attachment was rejected, I try to describe here: Header contains - thebat.dutaint.com or Header field - List-Id contains - tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.comor Recipient -contains - thebat.dutaint.com or recipient -contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] when it did not work I added another criteria, but still not working. properly. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
Hallo rich, On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:21:12 -0500GMT (31-12-2007, 4:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG I suppose some template hierarchy exists where one template will RG over-ride another template in a predictable order? Is this so? I guess RG it must be in the order in which they are executed... What would that RG be? The order of preference is AB template, AB group template, folder template, account template. Note that when you've got multiple entries in your AB with the same address the preference can get mixed up. RG If I understand external text file template, any executed are nested RG within another more powerful template... Yes? QTs and external text files can be called by other templates, doesn't matter whether the parent templates are account templates, AB templates, filter templates or even quick templates. When you're sending a message via command line parameters, you can tell TB to use a text file as template. You can use any macro in all kind of templates. RG Also, to my understanding QTs differ in that they just dump text into RG the body of an email being composed. No? Not necessarily. With a QT it's also possible to set a header. QTs can contain any macro. Just as an example I'll create a QT called test, it'll contain this macro: %Comment=The subject of this message is %Subject%- I can call the QT from the editor by typing its name followed by Ctrl-Space I´ve done so and you´ll see that when you view the message headers of this message that it contains a Comments: header with rather redundant cpntents. :-) RG Thank yet again (for the great lessons I should have learned years ago) RG and, again, best wishes to all for the new year! You're welcome. And be carefull with fireworks. -- Groetjes, Roelof Why experiment on animals, when there are so many Windows users around http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp07ATL93gsJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
RO The order of preference is AB template, AB group template, folder RO template, account template. Note that when you've got multiple RO entries in your AB with the same address the preference can get RO mixed up. RO QTs and external text files can be called by other templates, doesn't RO matter whether the parent templates are account templates, AB RO templates, filter templates or even quick templates. RO You can use any macro in all kind of templates. RO ... be carefull with fireworks! Thanks for that... Then just to be sure I understand... 1- AB contact template will overwrite ANY template 2- Folder templates ONLY overwrite account templates 3- QTs or external text files share the hierarchical order of the template from which it is executed P.S. I won't think about sending a message via command line parameters! -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history. -- Aldous Huxley Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
Hallo rich, On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:41:39 -0500GMT (31-12-2007, 20:41 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG Thanks for that... Then just to be sure I understand... RG 1- AB contact template will overwrite ANY template RG 2- Folder templates ONLY overwrite account templates That's about it, yes. RG 3- QTs or external text files share the hierarchical order of the RG template from which it is executed That's not as I'd call it. They're outside the preference sequence as they've got to be called specifically. RG P.S. I won't think about sending a message via command line parameters! As soon as you get messages that need to be sent (semi) automatically it's a usefull feature. -- Groetjes, Roelof Taglines: bumper stickers for computer nerds. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp1fCuETa1wN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
RG ... 2 new filters in v2.12 TB [that] forward based on a RG matching SUBJECT string. I'd like to have these filters RG automatically also change the FROM address for me. RO You can alter the From: header of the created messages by using the RO the %From=newaddress%- macro in the template used by the filter. RO You can access that template on the actions tab of the filter. Next RO to the field with the destination address for the message there's an RO icon for accessing the address book en next to that there's an icon RO for accessing the template. I hope this helps. Works like a dream! Thank you! I never knew about that template button in that page of the filter front-end... Now THAT'S is useful!! I'd seen templates mentioned before in filters but assumed (duh) that they must be folder or account profile templates. Wow. This is great! Thank you very very much! Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings; they did it by killing all those who opposed them. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
Hallo rich, On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:06:33 -0500GMT (30-12-2007, 19:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG I'd seen templates mentioned before in filters but assumed (duh) that RG they must be folder or account profile templates. TB offers templates on lots of places. You found the account and folder templates and now you experienced filter templates. But TB also has address book templates, there are two kinds of AB templates, those bound to individual AB entries and those that belong to AB groups. Other templates are Quick Templates, you can call QTs from other templates, but also straight from the editor. And finally TB offers the option to use external text files as templates -- Groetjes, Roelof WYSIWYG: see Optical illusion http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdLkYw2WJcm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
RG I'd seen templates mentioned before in filters but assumed (duh) that RG they must be folder or account profile templates. [EDITED] RO TB offers templates on lots of places. RO Account, folder, filter, address book (entry), address book (group), RO external text file. Also see Quick Templates. I suppose some template hierarchy exists where one template will over-ride another template in a predictable order? Is this so? I guess it must be in the order in which they are executed... What would that be? If I understand external text file template, any executed are nested within another more powerful template... Yes? Also, to my understanding QTs differ in that they just dump text into the body of an email being composed. No? Thank yet again (for the great lessons I should have learned years ago) and, again, best wishes to all for the new year! Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
Hallo rich, On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:15:57 -0500GMT (29-12-2007, 8:15 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG I have set up 2 new filters in sorting office of v2.12 TB! RG Both forward based on a matching SUBJECT string. RG I'd like to have these filters automatically also change the FROM RG address for me. You can alter the From: header of the created messages by using the the %From=newaddress%- macro in the template used by the filter. You can access that template on the actions tab of the filter. Next to the field with the destination address for the message there's an icon for accessing the address book en next to that there's an icon for accessing the template. I hope this helps. -- Groetjes, Roelof Hey, I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpK9FDw9CnzE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v2.12 forward filter change FROM address
Hello Bat-Folk! I have set up 2 new filters in sorting office of v2.12 TB! Both forward based on a matching SUBJECT string. I'd like to have these filters automatically also change the FROM address for me. I do not see any field in the filter interface that'll do this... Any pointers? Thx much, RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter
Hi, I have a filter that moves emails from a certain email address to a folder. How do I add an exception to it? Specifically, I want the rule to only move the emails from the inbox to this other folder if they don't contain the letters re: or RE: or Re: (so in other words, if it is a reply, put the email in the inbox, otherwise put it into this other folder). -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP :flag-australia: Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Secret, On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:37:32 +1100 GMT (11/12/2007, 19:37 +0700 GMT), Secret Squirrel wrote: SS I have a filter that moves emails from a certain email address to SS a folder. How do I add an exception to it? Specifically, SS I want the rule to only move the emails from the inbox to this SS other folder if they don't contain the letters re: or SS RE: or Re: (so in other words, if it is a reply, put the SS email in the inbox, otherwise put it into this other folder). Add a condition to the filter: Subject does not start with Re: I think it is even case-insensitive, so it should cover all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Woran erkennen Sie, das Sie als Bedienung nichts taugen? Sie halten Caipirinha fur einen fleischfressenden Fisch. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Secret, A reminder of what Secret Squirrel typed on: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 23:37:32 GMT +1100 SS I have a filter that moves emails from a certain email address to a SS folder. How do I add an exception to it? Specifically, I want the rule SS to only move the emails from the inbox to this other folder if they SS don't contain the letters re: or RE: or Re: (so in other words, SS if it is a reply, put the email in the inbox, otherwise put it into SS this other folder). Add a condition that says AND Subject does not contain re: -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.29 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: re-filter
Hello Thomas, Not sure I understand what you mean... To clarify, when I run re-filter manually for my inbox TB appears to have captured the last counts from the previous manual re-filter, so right now it's showing 6 messages in my inbox as being processed and 1 filtered. Instead of clearing the number field to zero, TB appears to remember the last number count until the auto filters miss something in my inbox and I run the re-filter again to catch what TB leaves behind. The auto filter works a good 95% of the time leaving about 5% of the messages having not been filtered for some reason. -- Best regards, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, November 16, 2007, 6:47:56 PM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:06:45 -0700 GMT (17/11/2007, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TH TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single TH time. Does anyone have a solution to this? You have a filter that either has no action or filters messages into the Inbox. Two messages are caught by this filter. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter by characters sets
Hello tbudl, I get a lot of messages probably all spams written in Cyril character. Since I cannot read them anyway, I would like to consider all of them as spam and move them directly to the JUNK-MAIL folder, or even better directly to TRASH folder. Is there any way of doing this by using the BAT filters or the antispam plug-in Antispam-Sniper. Thank you for the help. -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
re-filter
Hello TBUDL, Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single time. Does anyone have a solution to this? -- Best regards, Tim The Bat! v3.99.29 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re-filter
Hello Tim, On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:06:45 -0700 GMT (17/11/2007, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TH TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single TH time. Does anyone have a solution to this? You have a filter that either has no action or filters messages into the Inbox. Two messages are caught by this filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Reality is a crutch for people who can't face drugs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to configure filter/s to work with all/any account/s
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:46:46 +0100 GMT (31/10/2007, 22:46 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: M I there a way for the filters to work with all the accounts? M Under 'sorting office - account' there is 'common filter'. what does M this do? RO Yep, that's the way, you create common filters and set those to filter RO all accounts. It's indeed the way to go, I have over 100 Common Filters in the office. The caveat is that if you create a new filter, it is not associated to any account. So, make sure you hit the shared with tab and click on the appropriate accounts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Don't wear your glasses on a blind date. You'll look better, and he will too. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how to configure filter/s to work with all/any account/s
Hallo Vernon, On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:48:21 +0530GMT (31-10-2007, 6:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M I there a way for the filters to work with all the accounts? M Under 'sorting office - account' there is 'common filter'. what does M this do? Yep, that's the way, you create common filters and set those to filter all accounts. M Is there any way to transfer the filters to this 'common filter'? i M guess that this 'common filter' will work for all accounts? Select a filter, copy it with Ctrl-C, paste it (Ctr-C) into the common filters. M Will be pleased to hear from you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Newsbytes - Microsoft announce EDLIN for Windows. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.27.2 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpFlzRSoBpgl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: email trigger filter string
Hallo rich, On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:18:41 -0400GMT (30-10-2007, 6:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG The filter does a redirect. I see that MY email address is inserted as RG they REPLY-TO. How can I clear that? RG SORRY... That's RETURN-PATH is inserted and I want to strip that out. You can't. TB doesn't include a return-path, that's done by the smtp-server -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.27 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDKNZ2tluQa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to configure filter/s to work with all/any account/s
Hello Members, I have set up about 20 filter folders for a particular account. I am presently running about 3 to 4 accounts. I there a way for the filters to work with all the accounts? Under 'sorting office - account' there is 'common filter'. what does this do? Is there any way to transfer the filters to this 'common filter'? i guess that this 'common filter' will work for all accounts? Will be pleased to hear from you. -- Best Regards Vernon Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: email trigger filter string
RG If I try to put the username on one line and the domain on RG another line as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. RO Do you mean as an extra condition on the 'alternatives' tab? To RO use two conditions on the primary rule will require both RO condition to match in order to trigger the filter. RG Not on another tab... Right on that first page of the filter I had RG enter 2 conditions but it was then triggering on either one, not RG only both. RO Are you sure about that? It shouldn't do that. No other filter that RO could have interfered? RG I am not sure! Having found a work-around though I cannot spend time RG figuring it out! RG HOWEVER - I did see something else curious in the resulting emails RG messages created by the filter: RG The filter does a redirect. I see that MY email address is inserted as RG they REPLY-TO. How can I clear that? SORRY... That's RETURN-PATH is inserted and I want to strip that out. Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: I have always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific. - Lily Tomlin Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: email trigger filter string
RG If I try to put the username on one line and the domain on another RG line as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. RO Do you mean as an extra condition on the 'alternatives' tab? To use RO two conditions on the primary rule will require both condition to RO match in order to trigger the filter. RG Not on another tab... Right on that first page of the filter I had RG enter 2 conditions but it was then triggering on either one, not only RG both. RO Are you sure about that? It shouldn't do that. No other filter that RO could have interfered? I am not sure! Having found a work-around though I cannot spend time figuring it out! HOWEVER - I did see something else curious in the resulting emails messages created by the filter: The filter does a redirect. I see that MY email address is inserted as they REPLY-TO. How can I clear that? Thx RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: Make sure you have finished speaking before your audience has finished listening. -- Dorothy Sarnoff Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: email trigger filter string
Hallo rich, On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:53:49 -0400GMT (28-10-2007, 2:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RG I f I try to put the username on one line and the domain on another RG line as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. RO Do you mean as an extra condition on the 'alternatives' tab? To use RO two conditions on the primary rule will require both condition to RO match in order to trigger the filter. RG Not on another tab... Right on that first page of the filter I had RG enter 2 conditions but it was then triggering on either one, not only RG both. Are you sure about that? It shouldn't do that. No other filter that could have interfered? -- Groetjes, Roelof Hey, I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp6BZP210Lsj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: email trigger filter string
Hallo rich, On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:41:33 -0400GMT (27-10-2007, 4:41 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG I tried to make a (ver 2.12) filter to trigger on an incoming email RG address but it seems like when I have the @ sign in the string the RG filter does not trigger. It should be possible to filter on complete addresses. Back in the days I was using v1 or v2, I could filter on complete addresses. Are you sure that your complete condition doesn't include a space or something like that? RG I f I try to put the username on one line and the domain on another line RG as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. Do you mean as an extra condition on the 'alternatives' tab? To use two conditions on the primary rule will require both condition to match in order to trigger the filter. RG How can I either use one string with the email address or AND the 2 RG strings requiring them both to be present? What you propose to do, should pose no problems at all. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpofHPBWXWTC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: email trigger filter string
RG I tried to make a (ver 2.12) filter to trigger on an incoming email RG address but it seems like when I have the @ sign in the string the RG filter does not trigger. RO It should be possible to filter on complete addresses. Back in the RO days I was using v1 or v2, I could filter on complete addresses. Are RO you sure that your complete condition doesn't include a space or RO something like that? I was only guessing that it was the @ sign that caused the filter to not trigger. (Yup, no spaces or other characters.) I have since found a header string that will work for me so I do not need to find out why that didn't work. I don't like not knowing and this may come up again, but as long as it's working now I'm not going to try to fix it! RG I f I try to put the username on one line and the domain on another RG line as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. RO Do you mean as an extra condition on the 'alternatives' tab? To use RO two conditions on the primary rule will require both condition to RO match in order to trigger the filter. Not on another tab... Right on that first page of the filter I had enter 2 conditions but it was then triggering on either one, not only both. RG How can I either use one string with the email address or AND the 2 RG strings requiring them both to be present? RO What you propose to do, should pose no problems at all. Where would I *AND* 2 conditions, should this come up in the future? Thx mch! RG -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
email trigger filter string
Hello Bat-Folk! I tried to make a (ver 2.12) filter to trigger on an incoming email address but it seems like when I have the @ sign in the string the filter does not trigger. I f I try to put the username on one line and the domain on another line as strings then EITHER string triggers the filter. How can I either use one string with the email address or AND the 2 strings requiring them both to be present? Thx Rich -- Beautiful Butterfly Displays http://FramedButterflyArt.com Random tagline: I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. -- Thomas Jefferson Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Hello Neal, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 8:23:51 PM, among other things, you wrote: NL I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to NL work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an NL external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? If you go into the Sorting Office (Shft+Ctrl+S) and Right Click on the Selective Download title and then choose New Filter, you will find that at the bottom of the right hand panel is an item 'Load strings from the file' and a place to enter or choose the file. It is some years since I tried to use this feature and at that time it was not always functional! You could use plain text strings or Regex. I am not sure what format is now acceptable but as far as I can remember the items were separated by the pipe symbol (|). A WORD OF WARNING! Don't under any circumstances set the filter to 'Delete' until you have tested it well with the 'Ignore' function, because if it cannot find the file, it is liable to match *EVERY* message in your mailbox. It was this kind of difficulty which made me give up trying to use it, I found it was more reliable to make the multiple entries in the filter itself. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.25 with AntiSpamSniper 2.6.1.2, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Hi Roger, Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 12:17:12 AM, you wrote: NL I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to NL work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an NL external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? If you go into the Sorting Office (Shft+Ctrl+S) and Right Click on the Selective Download title and then choose New Filter, you will find that at the bottom of the right hand panel is an item 'Load strings from the file' and a place to enter or choose the file. No problem - I'm there - but the filter does not seem to pick up the file. I have one word per line (CR/LF) and it just will not look at the file./ I've tried referencing the file with the %PUT macro in a condition field but to no avail. It is some years since I tried to use this feature and at that time it was not always functional! Oh yes, I remember. v2 was different in that you could clipboard copy the text and paste it in the filter text field. My spam is so out of control I have to take more aggressive measures. -- Thanks, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter signal strings
Hello Neal, Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 5:08:56 PM, among other things, you wrote: If you go into the Sorting Office (Shft+Ctrl+S) and Right Click on the Selective Download title and then choose New Filter, you will find that at the bottom of the right hand panel is an item 'Load strings from the file' and a place to enter or choose the file. NL No problem - I'm there - but the filter does not seem to pick up the NL file. That is what I meant about often being not functional. It seems things have not changed. NL My spam is so out of control I have to take more aggressive measures. Why don't you use AntSpamSniper? It works very well and does delete some of the spam at the server, especially if you prepare a suitable Blacklist. It is a very safe programme in that one can fairly easily load in a Whitelist from one's address book, and it can be continuously be updated to include all addresses that are not marked as spam. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.25 with AntiSpamSniper 2.6.1.2, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Roger, NL No problem - I'm there - but the filter does not seem to pick up the NL file. That is what I meant about often being not functional. It seems things have not changed. I looked to see it there was a bug report on it, but I guess not. Maybe I'll make one. NL My spam is so out of control I have to take more aggressive measures. Why don't you use AntSpamSniper? It works very well and does delete some of the spam at the server, especially if you prepare a suitable Blacklist. It is a very safe programme in that one can fairly easily load in a Whitelist from one's address book, and it can be continuously be updated to include all addresses that are not marked as spam. I've been using the Agava plug-in with mixed results. I need to knock some of the more obvious one off one the server, but the H-Sphere CP I use in my websites only will blacklist URLs. I'll take a look at AntiSpam Sniper. Thanks much! -- Regards, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter signal strings
Hello listers, I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? -- Regards, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP Filter Weirdness
I am in the process of moving one of my accounts from POP to IMAP. Everything seems to be going fine (so far). I've started to move my filters over. I ran into a weird problem though. I am on a high traffic announcements mailing list. I have a filter that moves these messages into their own folder. There is also an archive folder. I have configured the main folder to move the messages to the archive folder when I delete them. That appears to work. However, the filter is reapplied, and the messages end up back in the main folder. What am I doing wrong? -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Minds are like parachutes: they only function when open. pgpGkHkNf9TP7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:
RO The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are
RO collected in group related folders.
Thanks again for your help on this. I eventually plumped for:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and checked 'automatically create if necessary and it is working a treat.
Folders are automatically created when someone from the address book list
group contacts me. Man alive, I've been doing the long way around up until
now. What a time saver!
--
Slán,
SI{mon}
*
W2K Pro SP5 + TB! 3.99.24
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
On Monday, September 10, 2007 at 18:00 Roelof Otten wrote: Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like %ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV. I actually changed the 'Known' filter a bit to do what I want with this. Everyone I regularly communicate with is in my addressbook. I like to keep conversations with people in my AB together, so after all the filters that handle lists, newsletters and whatmore, I have the 'Known' filter at the bottom that splits out all remaining incoming mails to folders named after the full name of the person as it is registered in my AB. Because this list would get too large, I've also made it to create an intermediate level of folders based on the first letter. \\HyperCube Maurice\Bekenden\%SETPATTREGEXP((.))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%ABFROMNAME)%SUBPATT(1)\5C%ABFROMNAME Where 'HyperCube Maurice' is my account name, and 'Bekenden' is the mail folder under which I want these user-linked folders to be created. A similar filter exists in my outgoing filters list, which of course uses %ABTONAME to make outgoing mails to contacts in my AB also go to their personal folder. The folders are set to have a threaded so I can easily follow conversations there too, just like with mailing lists. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.99.24; ; AJS v18.59432; MyMacros 1.11a; Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello TBUDL:
Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is
possible to create 'filter groups'?
I can't find a definitive answer to this question (and I have looked) so
please forgive me if this question has been asked to death and answered
over and over:
If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I
need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be
processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you
can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried
that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed
(actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders).
Thankyou.
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:28:29 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 15:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is IT possible to create 'filter groups'? No. IT If I create a main filter in the Sorting Office and call it 'Lists', do I IT need to add any specific conditions for sub filters below it to be IT processed? I noticed that there after adding a condtion to the filter you IT can select 'any message, which I imagined allowed for this, but I tried IT that and sub filters below the main 'Lists' filter still aren't processed IT (actions for all subfolders are simply filtering to folders). That's exactly as it's supposed to be. A filter processes the messages that match its condition and filters below that filter won't be checked anymore, subfilters will be processed though. However, when you set the option 'continue processing with other filters' for the parent filter, then the messages will be processed by the other filters too. (Until they trigger the next filter.) But I don't know what the consequences are for the messages that have been processed by the subfilters. IT -- IT Slán, Your cutsign doesn't function as it should, it's missing the trailing space. -- Groetjes, Roelof I've got all this emotional baggage and no claim check. - SLR http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpP64n6PDGXi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:35:31 +0200 your time, you said:
IT Please forgive my ignorance, but could someone please tell me if it is
IT possible to create 'filter groups'?
RO No.
Hmm, great. I was hoping that wasn't going ot be the case...still.
So just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then,
if I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I
can only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each
individual's emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders'
I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing?
[...snip...]
IT --
IT Slán,
RO Your cutsign doesn't function as it should, it's missing the trailing
RO space.
Oops! New QT. Didn't check it, sorry. Fixed.
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:02:14 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 17:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT So just to make absolutely clear, so I'm left in no doubt, this means then, IT if I have 45 people belonging to a private group/list/forum whatever, and I IT can only filter against their individual aliases, to be able to filter each IT individual's emails (and my replies to each of them) to 'their own folders' IT I _still_ have to create 90 separate filters, 45 incoming and 45 outgoing? Of course not, but that wasn't what you were asking. You asked about groups of filters. Or to say it differently: You merely asked whether you could create two groups of 45 filters each. What you're asking now is whether you can filter a lot of addresses each to their own folder with a single filter and that answer is: 'Yes' Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it. It doesn't matter whether you've got them in different AB group too. Create a filter that checks whether the sender belongs to 'filter contacts' Now you've got two choices, either you want all of them moved to the same folder or you want to move each message to a folder matching your contact. The first case is rather straightforward, the second case needs a macro. I tested it with a single address (didn't want to mess up my filtering system) I added a 'phone number' to an address book entry (I used the rather random letters lcs) and the action for my filter was to move the message \\Roelof\%ABFromPhone (With roelof being the account name) I re-filtered the folder and all messages from that contact were filtered to \\Roelof\lcs Apart from %ABFromPhone you can use any address book macro, like %ABFromE-mail, I just used the Phone entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with email addresses, but YMMV. Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly, one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter. And before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary' with the move to action. Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your address book (like %ABFromPhone in stead of %ABFromName) you need to enter that field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way. Confused? Me too. -- Groetjes, Roelof ERROR: 001 Windows loaded. System in danger. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgph38EKK3IAA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:00:36 +0200 your time, you said:
[...snip...]
RO Create an AB group 'filter contacts' and add those 45 people to it.
[...snip...]
RO Now you've got two choices, either you want all of them moved to the
RO same folder or you want to move each message to a folder matching your
RO contact.
Yes, it was most definitely the latter option I was after.
RO The first case is rather straightforward, the second case needs a macro.
Yeah, well, I thought as much; many addresses to one folder would have been
a doddle of course.
RO I tested it with a single address [...snip...] I just used the Phone
RO entry, because I don't use that and I wouldn't like folder names with
RO email addresses, but YMMV.
Nor me. I'll give that a go though, and experiment, thankyou for you help.
RO Of course you'll still need two filters for this to function properly,
RO one incoming filter and one outgoing filter, note that you'd need
RO something like %ABToPhone for the outgoing filter.
Yes, I thought as much. IOW it's still a PITA to set up, but 'needs must' as
the expression goes!
RO And before I forget it, you'll need to check 'create if necessary' with
RO the move to action.
Okay.
RO Also when you don't use something that you've been using in your address
RO book (like %ABFromPhone in stead of %ABFromName) you need to enter that
RO field for all of the contacts you want to sort this way.
RO Confused? Me too.
Surprisingly, I'm following everything. However, after setting that lot up I
doubt whether I'll be as chirpy ;-)
Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of
the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and
filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting
up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting
Office. It's just that the filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB
way...and instinctively we like to group things.
Anyway, thanks for your help and I'll go away and playfor a while and then
decide which way I prefer :-)
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Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2007-9-10 11:42:15 AM Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting Office. It's just that the filters list won't be as long if you do it the AB way...and instinctively we like to group things. And, if you need to change the filter later, you only have to change it in one place. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him. -Robert Benchley pgpSOEhvxpfDG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hallo Simon, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:42:15 +0100GMT (10-9-2007, 18:42 +0200, where I live), you wrote: IT Really, I suppose it boils down to cosmetics and preference at the end of IT the day. I mean that organising particular contacts into a 'group' in AB and IT filtering against the AB group will still mean just as much effort setting IT up as creating indiviudal filters for each email address under the Sorting IT Office. There are two major differences. You'll only need to add them once to your AB group, whereas you'd need to create every filter twice. When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses) you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you don't need to adjust your filters. The latter is why I love filtering on AB groups, though my groups are collected in group related folders. -- Groetjes, Roelof I prefer to call it: The Prime Suggestion - Kirk http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgphZLpOJmVGr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sub Filters: can I create 'filter groups'?
Hello Roelof,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:08:12 +0200 your time, you said:
RO When your contacts change their addresses (or use multiple addresses)
RO you can easily add them to your AB (you'd do that anyway), but you don't
RO need to adjust your filters. The latter is why I love filtering on AB
RO groups, though my groups are collected in group related folders.
Yes, indeed, after thinking about it, and reading these last replies from
you and Chrisopher, I do see that AB filtering must be the best way forward
for me. And I actually already have most of my contacts in various AB groups
already, as is my habit, so I do believe I'll be following the good advice
provided here and filtering against the AB groups in future.
Thanks for all your advice.
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Filter questions
Fellow Bat! Fans. Any easy way to move (or copy) a whole bunch of filters from one account to another, or to make existing filters common filters? BTW, am I to understand that a common filter will apply to all ticked accounts? I presume this is the case but feel I may be getting (not a scientific feel mind you) some strange results. -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hallo John, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:12:40 +1000GMT (5-9-2007, 7:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Any easy way to move (or copy) a whole bunch of filters from one JP account to another, or to make existing filters common filters? The filters are stored in the account.srb file (account.erb for OTFE) in the account directory. (Mail directory for common filters) Closing TB and copying/moving the file to the new location used to work during the early stages of v3, but it hasn't been discussed on list for quite a long now, so that might have been changed. Create a backup and try it. Note that this means that your old filters in the target account will be lost. JP BTW, am I to understand that a common filter will apply to all JP ticked accounts? I presume this is the case but feel I may be getting JP (not a scientific feel mind you) some strange results. I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTc5v5ltXQc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Roelof, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, at 12:41:09 [GMT +0200] (20:41:09 05/09/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. snip, etc. Thanks for the help. -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help with filter
John Phillips @ 2007-8-04 5:15:03 PM Need help with filter mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have three isp accounts. Looks like when you have more than one isp, the Spam folder must be a common folder. I don't have that problem and I have 5 accounts. What version of The Bat! are you using? What anti-spam plugin (and version)? -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Spotted in a safari park: ELEPHANTS PLEASE STAY IN YOUR CAR pgpxW0sqWc5pM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help with filter
Hello Roelof, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 8:50:39 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Gene, RO On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 16:18:53 -0400GMT (4-8-2007, 22:18 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: G I'm beginning to notice this sort of behavior, too. I am finding G filters, that have been successful for a long time, that just seem to G stop working. RO That would be odd. Never happens to me. G I believe I have narrowed down the cause to the following conditions: G a) the order in which the filters are called, and/or G b) whether or not the Continue processing with other filters is checked. RO The order of the filters is important. Every message is compared to RO the filter conditions in the order of the filters in the sorting RO office. TB starts with matching the common filters and after that it RO continues with the account filters. RO As soon as TB has a match the comparing is stopped and the filter is RO executed. RO There are two cases TB will continue matching filters: RO 1) The triggered filter has subfilters, in this case TB will match the RO message against the subfilters OK uh, then, if one (of several) of the subfilters is matched, is the comparing stopped with the first matching subfilter or does it test *all* subfilters. Once a subfilter is matched, is *all* matching stopped... and we move on to the next message? It is beginning to look like I am 'improving' one subfilter and screwing up my anticipated order of business RO 2) The triggered filter has the option 'continue processing with RO other filters' set, in this case the triggered filter will be RO executed, but the matching will be continued like no match has been RO found. G Could the behavior of either item have changed with one of the latest G versions of The Bat!? RO Both the filter order and the 'continue processing...' option have RO been the same since forever. -- Best regards, Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000763-5, 08/05/2007 Tested on: 8/5/2007 2:33:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help with filter
Hallo Gene, On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:33:52 -0400GMT (5-8-2007, 20:33 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G OK uh, then, if one (of several) of the subfilters is matched, is G the comparing stopped with the first matching subfilter or does it G test *all* subfilters. It stops after the first matched subfilter, unless the matched subfilter has continue... set and filtering will continue until the next matching subfilters. Though no filtering of normal filters will occur. Unless the parent filter had continue... checked, of course. G Once a subfilter is matched, is *all* matching stopped... and we move G on to the next message? Yep. G It is beginning to look like I am 'improving' one subfilter and G screwing up my anticipated order of business That's possible. To be honest I rarely use subfilters, they don't add much to my filtering efficiency. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, you must be using Windows. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQ05JDsr1oH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help with filter
Hello Chris, Monday, August 6, 2007, 2:54:04 AM, you wrote: I have three isp accounts. Looks like when you have more than one isp, the Spam folder must be a common folder. I don't have that problem and I have 5 accounts. What version of The Bat! are you using? What anti-spam plugin (and version)? I am using 3.99.3, and not a plug in, but K9. Further investigation reveals that I have a common filter for Spam as well, and this was probably conflicting with the other filters. BTW a nice feature to see in Bat! would possibly be in Properties a list of all filters applying to a particular folder, or is this already available? -- John Phillips Sydney, Australia Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
