Re: PW for v2alpha4?

2003-08-02 Thread Alexander
02-Aug-2003 01:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you guys shouldn't tempt us like that! It's like putting a nice piece of chocolate cake on the top shelf where it can't be reached! :-) But with Alpha versions you may find that this piece of chocolate actually contains a lot of curry pepper,

RE:PW for v2alpha4?

2003-08-02 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Alexander, Saturday, August 2, 2003, 9:39:19 AM, you wrote: 02-Aug-2003 01:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, you guys shouldn't tempt us like that! It's like putting a nice piece of chocolate cake on the top shelf where it can't be reached! chocolate with pepper tastes actually

Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @1-Aug-2003, 20:23 -0700 (04:23 UK time) Mark Wieder [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP TB can be driven using IPC (Inter Program Communications) via MDP a disk file called TheBat.IPC. Commands can be written to this MDP file by any

Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Razgo
R and can this function be turned off? Marck No. But then checking a file once every 10 seconds is not a Marck particularly heavy overhead. Unless you're running from a floppy Marck drive. R is it a needed function? Marck Yes. R i don't understand the purpose of it. Marck I hope that helps

Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Razgo, @2-Aug-2003, 21:02 +1000 (12:02 UK time) Razgo [R] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: R and can this function be turned off? Marck No. ... Marck I hope that helps clear it up a bit for you. R yes it is much clearer now, thanks. however it's

Re[2]: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Razgo
R yes it is much clearer now, thanks. however it's not about how R much cpu this function uses but rather it's a function in my R email client that i have no control over. Marck ... maybe, but it does no harm, takes no CPU and doesn't affect you Marck in any other way than in the back of your

TB freezing on exit

2003-08-02 Thread Deborah W
I've experienced this problem twice now, am wondering what's causing it. I've tried to shut down TB, it appears to shut down (purges the folders it's supposed to on exit) but is still on the screen, indeed I can still use it - though instead of a cursor, I have the little hourglass icon which

The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread myob
Hello list, As will be apparent from this message, I'm still using the 'Christmas edition', as that's the last one about which I received an individual notification. Seeing the editions used by other people on this list, I'm wondering whether or not it's time for me to do an update.

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, August 2, 2003, myob wrote: The other niggle is the way I sometimes suddenly get the Invalid HTML! Please forward this message to developers. screen. Moving around often cures that, but I sometimes need to close The Bat! and reopen it to cure the apparent

Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Thomas, On 06:55 02.08.2003, you [Thomas Fernandez] wrote... Ah - I stand corrected. Actually, it is not in my list of standard ports, but then, my list is a few years old. Where can I get an updated list? Usually, I'd say http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers but it's not

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread Alexander
02-Aug-2003 15:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. I would need step-by-step instructions about what to do. The last non-beta version is 1.62r, which I'm using it, too (I'm not too keen on trying beta versions just for the sake of having a newer version). 1. download it from the Ritlabs website

Re: TB freezing on exit

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Deborah, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:00:57 -0400 GMT (02/08/2003, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: I've tried to shut down TB, it appears to shut down (purges the folders it's supposed to on exit) but is still on the screen, indeed I can still use it - though instead of a cursor, I have

featurewish: not only Specials/Open reply, but also Open origin

2003-08-02 Thread daniel hahler
Hallo all, with the RMB menu of a mail you can go to a reply that you have written. That's nice! But I also would like to be able to go to the mail that the current one is the reply to. I thought about reporting this to RITLabs Bugtracking System (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/), but wanted to ask

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread myob
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:28:50 0200 GMT(02/08/2003, 3:28 PM GMT), Alexander wrote: A 02-Aug-2003 15:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. I would need step-by-step instructions about what to do. A I've done this from 1.62i on a couple of times and never A had any problems. As for the

Re: featurewish: not only Specials/Open reply,but also Open origin

2003-08-02 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, August 2, 2003, daniel hahler wrote: Hallo all, with the RMB menu of a mail you can go to a reply that you have written. That's nice! But I also would like to be able to go to the mail that the current one is the reply to. if You use this function on sent message,

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Myob, [M] wrote: M All seemed to go well - until I tried to connect, and was unable to M collect mail. The account logs say unable to connect to server, but M the properties look OK. M I'll try to send this to see if sending works. M It didn't go

Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Friday, August 1, 2003, 9:55:31 PM, you wrote: TF Ah - I stand corrected. Actually, it is not in my list of standard TF ports, but then, my list is a few years old. Where can I get an TF updated list? Well, I normally use http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, but I see it has

Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Johannes, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:01:03 +0200 GMT (02/08/2003, 21:01 +0700 GMT), Johannes Posel wrote: Usually, I'd say http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers but it's not included there anymore. Well, it was there. We'd better go to STARTTLS ;-) I downloaded it anyway, thanks. :-)

Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:47:34 -0700 GMT (02/08/2003, 23:47 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: Well, I normally use http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, but I see it has port 465 listed cryptically as URL Rendesvous Directory for SSM. You are right, but I think they have a

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread myob
Myob, [M] wrote: M All seemed to go well - until I tried to connect, and was unable to M collect mail. The account logs say unable to connect to server, but the properties look OK. That sounds like the classic case of a rules based firewall getting in your way. So, are you running a

Re: The Bat! - should I update?

2003-08-02 Thread myob
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:00:39 +0100 (BST) GMT(02/08/2003, 6:00 PM + GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myob, [M] wrote: That sounds like the classic case of a rules based firewall getting in your way. mbc I checked in Norton Internet Security, which showed The mbc Bat! as having 'automatic'

Re: file not found thebat.ipc

2003-08-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck- Saturday, August 2, 2003, 2:30:05 AM, you wrote: MW The help file doesn't have too much to say about this. Any clue MW about the format of the commands in the text file? Are these MW standard DOS commands? TB command line arguments? MDP - From the Help file: MDP ,--/ Section:About

Filtering after a first filter dont work

2003-08-02 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, I have setup a announce mailing list with TB, with a subscribe / unsubscribe filter. For that I created a separate account but did not specify a pop3 server, because the mail for it is received in my first account. what I do is when a mail arrives with [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Fri 1-Aug-03 1:07pm -0400, Mark Wieder wrote: Thursday, July 31, 2003, 5:43:10 PM, you wrote: BM What we could use is for Stefan to call GetTimeZoneInformation and BM give us access to a %Standard or %Daylight macro. GetTimeZoneInformation only returns information about the current system

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Bill, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:02:21 -0400 GMT (03/08/2003, 01:02 +0700 GMT), Bill McCarthy wrote: Perhaps, I should use 3 offsets: -500 for standard time, -400 for daylight time and -4or5 for that indeterminate hour :-) I'm not sure I read the beginning of this thread. But this is my

Re[2]: Problem with the keyboard

2003-08-02 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Peter, Thursday, July 31, 2003, 7:52:43 AM, you wrote: eei I do not know wich combination of keys I pushed, but all of a sudden eei and ONLY in TheBat, my keyword is not working like before. If a language setting was changed, you might be able to change it back with right shft+right ctrl.

Re: Filtering after a first filter dont work

2003-08-02 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, WM what I do is when a mail arrives with [EMAIL PROTECTED] then the some_name WM is filtered to the inbox of the new account. There the other filter should WM start (I was thinking so, but it is not). Is seems that if I set 'mark message as read', and I put the subscribe /

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Dan Grunberg
Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:43:10 [GMT -0400] (8:43 PM EDT here) Bill McCarthy wrote: On Thu 31-Jul-03 4:05pm -0400, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: @31-Jul-2003, 15:23 -0400 (20:23 UK time) Bill McCarthy [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: BM I would like to programmatically have my local offset

Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hi all, I posted something similar to this a few weeks back, but didn't see it on the list, so am posting again. Essentially, I'm wanting to synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. In examining the help file, I see two possible ways to do this, but am not sure which

Re[2]: Filtering after a first filter dont work

2003-08-02 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, Ok, I get it working, but I'm not sure I did it the right way. First of all, completely automaticle seems not working. I probably so something wrong or dont use right method. Any advice is welkome of course. I have now: in my normal account (the one that read the pop3 server) ar rule to

Preview pane does not display images

2003-08-02 Thread Pete B.
Hello TBUDL, I am having a problem with the mail preview pane in The Bat! Current version I am using is The Bat! 2.0 Alpha 4. AFAIK, I've had this happen in the older versions too before. It shows the text and everything quite good, but the images are not loaded. But if I open the

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread NetAddress
Essentially, I'm wanting to synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. Hi Steve, Exactly the basic problem that I was trying to solve for the past few weeks. I wnated to do significantly more thatn just mail. I have a peer to peer network between desktop and laptop. I

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS I posted something similar to this a few weeks back, but didn't see SMS it on the list, so am posting again. Essentially, I'm wanting to SMS synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. SMS In

Re: Preview pane does not display images

2003-08-02 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete, Saturday, August 2, 2003, 9:46:24 PM, you wrote: PB I am having a problem with the mail preview pane in The Bat! Current PB version I am using is The Bat! 2.0 Alpha 4. AFAIK, I've had this PB happen in the older versions too

Select F4 broken

2003-08-02 Thread Paul Wilson
Saturday, 8/2/2003, 3:06 PM Hi TBUDL Members, I am using a bets version. This is not a beta problem. This started way back with the 162 release version. I just haven't had time to deal with it. The highlight F4 to reply with quotes quit working. It works for List messages but not for Tbot.

Re: Select F4 broken

2003-08-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul, On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:28:14 -0700GMT (3-8-03, 0:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PW The highlight F4 to reply with quotes quit working. PW It works for List messages but not for Tbot. Actually, it worked for the two tbot messages I just sent. Maybe it is a beta issue... --

Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread zParticle
Within the message auto-view pane, I frequently need to switch between fixed-width and proportional fonts. It's a bit of a pain though, as I have to go to Preferences | Viewer and toggle the state of the first combo box--at least 6 clicks and no way to get there via keyboard. I expected to find

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zparticle, [Z] wrote: Z Within the message auto-view pane, I frequently need to switch Z between fixed-width and proportional fonts. It's a bit of a pain Z though, as I have to go to Preferences | Viewer and toggle the state Z of the first combo

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM Hmmm. Upon fiddling with v1.62r, I see what you mean. You can navigate AM to that option using the keyboard I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the keyboard. - -- -= allie_M =- | List

2 questions: re AVG Popfile

2003-08-02 Thread Deborah W
Question 1: Where can I find the Grisoft AVG plug-in for TB? I looked in the TBUDL archives, but the Grisoft page mentioned there is no longer on the Grisoft site. Question 2: While looking in the archives for this info, I came across a thread titled First email client with built in Popfile. In

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sat 2-Aug-03 10:42pm -0400, Allie Martin wrote: Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM Hmmm. Upon fiddling with v1.62r, I see what you mean. You can navigate AM to that option using the keyboard I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the keyboard. Try the following:

Re[2]: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Steve M. Sawczyn
Hello Allie, Saturday, August 2, 2003, 5:23:38 PM, you wrote: SMS synchronize my mail between my work notebook and my home desktop. SMS In examining the help file, I see two possible ways to do this, but SMS am not sure which might work best. My first thought was the SMS obvious synchronization

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Bill- Saturday, August 2, 2003, 11:02:21 AM, you wrote: BM You're right, it would be useful only if one accepts the wrong answer BM for a short time every six months. Since this happens only on BM replying to email, manually changing the result is not much of a BM burden. My point, though, is

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread zParticle
I actually meant there that you cannot navigate to the option using the keyboard. Alt-Oenter Hit the down key 9 times Hit the tab key 5 times Press P or R enter Does this refer to the beta? On my copy of 1.62r, this does: Alt-Oenter preferences menu Hit the down key 9 times [nothing] Hit the

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Mccarthy, [BM] wrote: BM Try the following: BM Alt-Oenter BM Hit the down key 9 times BM Hit the tab key 5 times BM Press P or R BM enter Though your message header says that you're using v1.62r, your keyboard navigation path is the one for

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve M. Sawczyn, [SMS] wrote: SMS OK, if I'm understanding this correctly, the data files need to be SMS generated on each machine each time the synchronization is to take SMS place? Oh yes. Let me put it another way. :) Machine A: Hey B,

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Steve, AM Sounds like it would be better to simply backup the notebook's AM installation and then restore it to the desktop's installation. Are you suggesting that this might be the way to go initially and then resourt to synchronization, or back up the files each time and don't bother

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sat 2-Aug-03 8:52pm -0400, Mark Wieder wrote: GetTimeZoneInformation only deals with the Right Now time and there's no way to plug any other date information into it. I understand. I rarely reply to email that isn't from today or yesterday. There would only be 2 days a year that my offset

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Strong, [GS] wrote: GS So from where I'm sitting starting with a backup, then follow up GS with synchronization afterward would be the way to go. I've only GS tried synchronization once or twice. It worked fine. Other may have GS a better way,

Re: origindate from header instead of %ODATE

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Bill, At any rate, methinks if you have to worry about whether a reply was created between 1AM and 2AM on a certain Sunday in October, you either have way too much time on your hands or you need to get out in the real world a bit more... g Ha! Normally, I wouldn't care - but for any

Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, Of course, the ideal solution to your situation would be IMAP accounts. :) TB!'s completely revamped IMAP support is currently in beta testing stages so stay tuned. I have to learn more about IMAP. -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP

Re: Quickly toggling fix-width fonts

2003-08-02 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 3-Aug-03 12:28am -0400, Allie Martin wrote: Though your message header says that you're using v1.62r, your keyboard navigation path is the one for the new options panel seen only in the betas. Yes, I accidentally tested that from the Beta. I also didn't see a way to get there in the