Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA:
Hi
On Sunday 7 June 2015 at 8:51:41 PM, in
mid:gt79naplejsrp1523d5sh3p7qkshfd6...@4ax.com, Luca wrote:
I know, and I can tell you: there is no browse button
to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only
pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in
the list of application to choose from.
Playing with my search engine for a while got me:-
https://superuser.com/questions/536849/how-to-associate-the-mailto-protocol-with-a-custom-exe.
The following saved as a .REG file, edited to specify my custom
EXE and imported into the registry works for me in Windows 7:
It works! That's great, thank you. I've been searching for a long time for a
trick like that.
For .eml files, problem is not to associate the
extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a
new message editor window with the file as an
attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a
message, showing its content.
So Windows is picking the right application but the wrong action. Is
there no way to edit the action?
With the registry, I think so. But there are a lot of keys related to .eml
extension, these are just some of them:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithList]
MRUList=ab
b=wlmail.exe
a=voyager.exe
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\OpenWithProgids]
Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail=hex(0):
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.eml\UserChoice]
Progid=Applications\\voyager.exe
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml]
Content Type=message/rfc822
CachedFilterIID={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
PersistentHandler={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
@=Microsoft Internet Mail Message WLMail
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\PersistentHandler]
@={0563DB41-F538-4B37-A92D-4659049B7766}
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.eml\shellex\{8895b1c6-b41f-4c1c-a562-0d564250836f}]
@={b9815375-5d7f-4ce2-9245-c9d4da436930}
If I choose Open with Windows Live Mail, WLM opens and shows the .eml file
like it's supposed to do, while Open with Voyager results in a new message
in Voyager with the .eml file as an attachment.
And I would have thought you wanted to also associate .msg files,
although these seem to be less common than a few years ago. I still
encounter them occasionally.
Right, same thing as .eml. I didn't think about .msg because it's been a while
since I saw the last one, AFAIR.
--
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it
Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Feli Wilcke: Hello Luca, On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 +0200GMT Luca wrote: That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? L Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no browse button to select a L program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to L choose from. This is the way for XP, in W7 you would use systems preferences | program standards (or similar). There are some options you could try I know, and I can tell you: there is no browse button to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in the list of application to choose from. L So, remaining problems: L - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide L - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager see above For .eml files, problem is not to associate the extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a new message editor window with the file as an attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a message, showing its content. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hello Luca, On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 +0200GMT Luca wrote: That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? L Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no browse button to select a L program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to L choose from. This is the way for XP, in W7 you would use systems preferences | program standards (or similar). There are some options you could try L So, remaining problems: L - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide L - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager see above -- Regards, Feli The Bat! Version 6.8.2.3 (BETA) (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 Reklame ist die Kunst auf den Kopf zu zielen, und die Brieftasche zu treffen [Vance Packard] Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Rick: The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry entries The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit and / or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit I think I tried that too, once, but I did't know what to insert in those keys. Maybe I should try and install The Bat, then substitute the path to TB executable with the path to Voyager? I'm a little reluctant to do that. Would you be so kind to export that registry key on your machine in a .reg file then paste here the content? Maybe I could try to adapt it. Anyway, I think a little external application would come handy for Voyager users, to build the right associations in the registry, if Ritlabs would like do it. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
MFPA: On Saturday 6 June 2015 at 3:17:33 PM, in mid:tkv5nad8vu7mnkrtkc0qimqc6v5ko8r...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. I would have thought not touching the host computer's settings was one of the points of a portable app. Yes, the main reason why I use portable apps is to be able to use my applications when traveling, when I can't carry my laptop with me, but when I come back home I'd like not to have limitations, particularly if I place the same application in the same place everytime, either a USB unit or a folder. Why not? It would be perfectly possible to install Voyager with proper registry settings, on demand or running some simple external configuration utility to write the right settings in the registry. That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? Because in my Windows 7 Home Premium there is no browse button to select a program for mailto: handler, and Voyager is not on the list of application to choose from. And in Firefox via Tools | Options | Applications? Wait, wait... Thank you very much, one problem solved! How did I miss that? So, remaining problems: - associate mailto: url and shortcuts to Voyager, system-wide - associate .eml file so that they open in Voyager Thanks for any hint. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hi On Sunday 7 June 2015 at 8:51:41 PM, in mid:gt79naplejsrp1523d5sh3p7qkshfd6...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: I know, and I can tell you: there is no browse button to select a program for mailto: handler, you can only pick applications from the list, and Voyager is not in the list of application to choose from. Playing with my search engine for a while got me:- https://superuser.com/questions/536849/how-to-associate-the-mailto-protocol-with-a-custom-exe. The following saved as a .REG file, edited to specify my custom EXE and imported into the registry works for me in Windows 7: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto] URL Protocol= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell\open] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\mailto\shell\open\command] @=C:\\Path\\to\\Program.exe [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto] URL Protocol= [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell\open] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\mailto\shell\open\command] @=C:\\Path\\to\\Program.exe Remember that your setting can always be overridden by the user via browser options. I am using XP and have not tried this at all. Use at your own risk, etc. For .eml files, problem is not to associate the extension to Voyager, but if I do that, Voyager opens a new message editor window with the file as an attachment, instead of opening the .eml file as a message, showing its content. So Windows is picking the right application but the wrong action. Is there no way to edit the action? And I would have thought you wanted to also associate .msg files, although these seem to be less common than a few years ago. I still encounter them occasionally. -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Trash: I have started to try Voyager. There is no documentation comparing it to the full version (apart from saying it includes all the features) I have two basic questions: a) Is there any disadvantage at all of using Voyager as my main software, i.e. as the main software on my desktop as well as USB, and discarding the installed version altogether -- what will I lose?? The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. Except for that, I think it's all the same. The installed version betas usually come out more frequently than Voyager updates but I can live with that. b) Does the E-mail data *have* to be encrypted on Voyager. I am mainly interested in portability, and take care of security in other ways. Encryption in Voyager would (possibly) make me more susceptible to data loss. I seem to remember that yes, the Voyager database must be encrypted. I'm not 100% sure, though. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. The problem comes because voyager is portable and doesn't make registry entries The keys you could BACKUP and then play with are HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit and / or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Clients\Mail\The Bat! Simple MAPI 32-bit Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager versus installed version
Hi On Saturday 6 June 2015 at 3:17:33 PM, in mid:tkv5nad8vu7mnkrtkc0qimqc6v5ko8r...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: The one thing I miss in Voyager is the chance to associate it to the mailto: protocol. I tried every hack I am capable of in the Windows registry but still I can't get mailto: urls to open in Voyager. I still guess it must be possible somehow. I searched around, I asked here twice (still asking) but nobody came out with a solution so far. I would have thought not touching the host computer's settings was one of the points of a portable app. That said, can't you edit the Mailto handler in Windows Explorer via Tools | Folder Options | Filetypes? And in Firefox via Tools | Options | Applications? -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
