Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-30 Thread lists
But you’ve done nothing but calling me names nonstop, I owe you an apology then, and the developers and users who may have read my ramblings. then complaining when people do the same to you. You’re a hypocrite, but you clearly don’t realize that, because you keep saying that “you’re cool”

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-29 Thread lists
Are you proposing that the whole of FAQ 9 should be scrapped? May it be proposed to you that you further advise Carlos on improving his suggested patch or scrapping this knitting already. Whose idea was to stoke the binpatch theme anyway, somebody of commercial interest? No such thing is

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
I’ve recently discovered OpenBSD after using Linux for more than 15 years. Long time, no see? And you blogged and achieved your goal of... making yourself expressed, critically on your own controlled web space. I wrote a blog article with my impressions and some other users suggested me to

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
I understand that OpenBSD owes me nothing (and vice versa) and I was just trying to help. The decision to merge that information is not mine to do, however, I honestly thought it could help people looking for a more thorough comparison between Linux and the BSDs. Are you by chance being

Re: unwritable PKG_CACHE directory

2015-07-06 Thread lists
You're right, this most probably needs a fix. However, if pkg_add(1) does not have write permission to $PKG_CACHE, then unclear error messages are produced. So, there is an error which makes you think. You notice and consider something is not that right, then go to address the issue. In the

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
What do you mean? The author mentioned mtier.org both in his original blog post and the patch sent to this mailing list. Author? Exactly whose ground are you defending here, Adam? If it's going to be merged then it's probably worth to mention that if... and you're on top of each other

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
Lack of resources is about the only good reason there is for not providing binary updates. That's not true. Further, base + packages are updated frequently in snapshots, which is exactly a binary upgrade path for users without worry. This works exceedingly well and is well stated in the

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
Lack of resources is about the only good reason there is for not providing binary updates. That's not true. It must feel absolutely glorious to bask in your anonymity and make such a strong claim. There are no strong claims. The other good reasons are to manage the updates

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
Well, not near one, but I volunteer for binary errata patch on current for i386 and amd64 (the only archs I own for now). People are going to use binary patches from you? I was hoping to try help with testing at least. Who are you? What is your name? That's the first step to establish

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
I think you've already said enough nasty stuff Right. I personally am not going to spend a second working on binary updates until I know there are 20+ other developers also dedicated to making it happen, and once it starts happening -- keeps happening forever. Well, not near one, but I

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-29 Thread lists
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:58:19 -0400 Bryan Steele bry...@openbsd.org wrote: Carlos' patch may not be appropriate, but you're kind of a condecending jerk, especially for someone who's apparently never sent mail to the OpenBSD lists before. Who are you? On Mon, Jun 29, 2015

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-28 Thread lists
So, for newcomers from other systems the practical approach would be to follow snapshots to be able to upgrade all (packages on top of base). Install first (once) 1) download a snapshot set (or only bsd.rd for network install) 2) install latest snapshot base OS 3) install your packages with

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-29 Thread lists
Work on current is something that naturally occurs. It does not mean there are enough resources to *duplicate that work* and do the same on stable. Obvious facts make obvious points. The snapshots for current and the security errata is good enough for me. It's easy and allows me to run

Re: [Patch] New item to the Migrating to OpenBSD guide

2015-06-29 Thread lists
Lot of angry fuss over words on a web page. Indeed. https://youtube.com/watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s I have no wishes and the discontent with the proposed patch is gone now.

Re: softdep by default on AMD64

2015-07-31 Thread lists
Yeh, cutting edge.. I have system lock/freeze every time with bittorent (aria2 or rtorrent) when net bandwidth 5 mbit/s or more :) This is the point I am getting flak again, please don't pollute the env you're doing it wrong. (ffs+softdep on softraid crypto) Plus a person trying to post

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-22 Thread lists
Figured out one can use an alias if the name of the command is difficult to type to somebody, and the author of the software is the one deciding how is the utility called. I have to think more instead of posting. I don't think we need the wrapper, but a config-check mode like pfctl has could be

Re: OpenBSD::Tame perl wrapper for tame(2)

2015-07-22 Thread lists
If possible I would like to apologetically unsay the unpleasant words. The only concern was the wrapping code does not impede the development of the underlying framework or change it in some limiting way. Certainly this is most likely not happening so the comments were unnecessary on my part.

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-21 Thread lists
so, why not type su rather than doas? I will not type doas. Do you?

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-21 Thread lists
Your diff doesn't apply here, can you resend? You can kiss anybody's ass. Are you traditionally ridiculing your origin or the general state of software? Idiot. Quit the crapping and do some real thinking and work actually.

Re: OpenBSD::Tame perl wrapper for tame(2)

2015-07-21 Thread lists
Is it not too early to jump gun on this, stone carving gemologist procto international man of mystery and disguise?

Re: OpenBSD::Tame perl wrapper for tame(2)

2015-07-21 Thread lists
Wrant.. Go away. On my way out can I gently kick the usual ruby wrapper to death? Several times. I'd come for more. Your attitude is offensive to all of us who work on this project. Why is open speech offensive, we're not that old already?

Re: OpenBSD::Tame perl wrapper for tame(2)

2015-07-21 Thread lists
Your contributions to the lists are rants or useless noise. What's your motivation and do you really gain something by doing that? Like mentioning the ruby idiot is an idiot? Sure. Who the contributor are you?

Re: unwritable PKG_CACHE directory

2015-07-13 Thread lists
I object to the silent part... if you're trying to actually use PKG_CACHE then, having it fail silently and then discovering several GB later that oops, it didn't save anything anywhere looks like a huge mistake. But I'll try to make the error message be completely explicit.

Re: tcpdump -A: really printable characters

2015-07-13 Thread lists
Historic overview of OpenBSD across platforms has always been intriguing to say the least. I sent a mail to naddy mentioning that a long time ago (feels like 10 years ago) we talked about using vis, but this would have made our Ignore this if it wastes time, what is 'vis' and is it platform /

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-20 Thread lists
I'm a lowly user but I ++ this, when testing out doas I did this a few times. allow : deny, permit : forbid Is that you, Flynn?

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-20 Thread lists
I think the failsafe is run su. Visudo(8) style wrapper for doas(1) that would respect the editor preferences... is only a suggestion, no? We're 2015 here. Since it is possible to configure doas to even less than permit :wheel this would in some cases be a fail open. I'm not sure how much

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-20 Thread lists
I think the failsafe is run su. Visudo(8) style wrapper for doas(1) that would respect the editor preferences... is only a suggestion, no? We're 2015 here. and vipf after that? there are countless config files, even more dangerous than doas.conf, that you edit at your own peril.

Re: doas failsafe

2015-07-21 Thread lists
doas is extremely foul to type, compared to sudo or su stop inventing reasons not to make it right first time once again, please ignore this if you are emotional

Re: give cron a sensible default max load_avg for batch jobs

2015-11-14 Thread lists
> >>> This patch changes the default setting to 1.5 * > >>> (number_of_cpus_in_system) instead, which I find better matches modern > >>> behaviour. > >> > >> A larger number is sensible in this position. > >> > >> I would propose 8. I don't agree with a calculation like that; the > >> amount of

Re: Drop a distracting function from locate(1)

2015-09-21 Thread lists
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 07:47:55 +0200 Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 07:43:46AM -0400, Michael McConville wrote: > > > Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > I do not agree. You only have to remeber "that function does sensible > > > error checking" and you do not have to

Re: lighter sleep

2015-09-21 Thread lists
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:53:12 +0200 Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 02:29:03PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > On 2015-09-21, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > > > > The function that parses funny numbers is iswdigit() which gets a wchar_t. > >

Re: Make uftdi(4) support aftermarket FTDI devices

2016-02-22 Thread lists
Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:41:06 -0700 Theo de Raadt > As to the 0x entry, I'm wondering whether it should be named something > like the following, as a historical reminder: > > +product FTDI FT232_JERKS 0xSerial Others followed suit too, HL_340 bricked clones

Re: Firefox, malloc(3) and threads

2016-01-25 Thread lists
I haven't tried anything too scientific yet, but pages seem to load quicker and firefox seems to be more responsive under load for me. Before this patch, loading a page would have a tendency to lock the browser for a few seconds on complex pages. Nothing seems to have broken, so I'll try harder.

[patch] www faq/index.html - validation nitpick

2016-02-21 Thread lists
Sat, 20 Feb 2016 17:09:36 -0700 (MST) T.J. Townsend > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: t...@cvs.openbsd.org2016/02/20 17:09:36 > > Modified files: > faq: faq13.html index.html > > Log message: > - remove section 13.8 "tell me about

Re: Xorg stipple

2016-03-10 Thread lists
Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:40:35 -0600 joshua stein > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 at 03:32:53 +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Apparently all you guys use laptops with LVDS, but TFT/LCD panels on > > VGA are still widely common in use. You remember the automatic adjust > > functional button

Re: Xorg stipple

2016-03-10 Thread lists
Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:10:07 -0800 Michael McConville > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > > Is anyone seriously finding video/Xorg bugs through the default X > > > > stipple pattern anymore? Xorg changed the default to draw a black > > > > background a while ago (with stipple enabled

Re: Xorg stipple

2016-03-10 Thread lists
Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:37:50 +0100 Matthieu Herrb > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 05:09:13PM -0600, joshua stein wrote: > > Is anyone seriously finding video/Xorg bugs through the default X > > stipple pattern anymore? Xorg changed the default to draw a black > > background a while ago

Re: spamd - blacklists

2016-03-15 Thread lists
Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:52:06 -0400 Michael McConville <mm...@mykolab.com> > Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2016/03/15 12:55, Craig Skinner wrote: > > > There are a few more paid rsync lists here: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists

Re: head(1) -c

2016-03-10 Thread lists
> To repeat myself, the addition of this rather silly option is supposed > to reduce differences from other implementations so that we can stop > wasting time about it. It should be cool to be able to run scripts that are expected to run so fine on the other POSIX targeting systems. So, push

Re: Any reason there's no way to persist pledge(2) state across exec?

2016-04-11 Thread lists
Sun, 10 Apr 2016 14:23:02 -0700 Brennan Vincent > Got it. Thanks for the explanation. > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016, at 01:36 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2016/04/10 20:50, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > What's the use for this? What program could use

Re: bufcache KNF

2016-04-11 Thread lists
Mon, 11 Apr 2016 15:59:53 +0200 Mike Belopuhov > On 11 April 2016 at 15:51, Mark Kettenis wrote: > > > > And prototypes with names in public headers are still an issue. > > > > Interesting point. What's a public header though? > Are files that end

[patch] www faq13.html - add 13.5: record, audio monitor

2016-04-12 Thread lists
Hi tech@ Based on recommendation from ratchov@ to put his advice for recording an audio output monitor in the FAQ as 13.5: [http://marc.info/?m=146039522014603] Proposing the diffs to FAQ 13 here, and the FAQ index below [1]. Hope this goes mangle-free by the mail client, ready to resend if

Re: pledge in /bin/mv

2016-04-09 Thread lists
Sat, 9 Apr 2016 21:30:39 +0200 Theo Buehler > On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 03:45:58PM +, Héctor Luis Gimbatti wrote: > > Is ok? > > no, the ?chmod and ?chown calls would require "fattr" as well, but since > pledge restricts these calls substantially, pledging mv is currently

Re: ksh: \" inside double quoted `..`

2016-04-09 Thread lists
Thu, 7 Apr 2016 19:15:51 +0200 Christian Weisgerber > Let's illustrate the issue: > > $ sh -c 'echo "`echo \"hi\"`"' > hi > $ sh -o posix -c 'echo "`echo \"hi\"`"' > "hi" It is important this is consistently verified in evaluations, here strings, here docs, filters,

Re: New scheduler for OpenBSD

2016-03-19 Thread lists
Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:04:49 -0600 Theo de Raadt > > So I'm skeptical about this BFS scheduler. Don't get me wrong; I do > > think the scheduler needs attention. But I'm not sure a scheduler > > designed for interactive desktop use is the best option for OpenBSD. > > I'm

Re: www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi

2016-03-23 Thread lists
Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:07:10 + skin...@britvault.co.uk (Craig Skinner) > On 2016-03-22 Tue 22:49 PM |, Bob Beck wrote: > > > > A few years back, Ingo moved it to the new mandoc based man.cgi, and > > now we've actually moved this to a dedicated place - "man.openbsd.org" > > Superb. What's next?

[patch] www errata59.html - validation pass id rNNN - worthy?

2016-03-23 Thread lists
Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Theo de Raadt > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org 2016/03/15 07:10:12 > > Modified files: > . : errata57.html errata58.html errata59.html > > Log message: > release new

[patch] www faq/current.html - validation nitpick

2016-03-21 Thread lists
Sat, 19 Mar 2016 20:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Philip Guenther > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: guent...@cvs.openbsd.org2016/03/19 20:33:23 > > Modified files: > faq: current.html > > Log message: > Need to build ld.so first

Re: improve xterm(1) resilience against control code attacks

2016-03-08 Thread lists
> Christian Weisgerber wrote on Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 03:51:41PM +: > > On 2016-03-07, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > >> Consequently, in the interest of safe and sane defaults, i propose > >> switching our xterm(1) to enable UTF-8 mode by default. > > > Seconded. Please.

[patch] www faq/current.html - validation pass href and id rYYYYMMDD

2016-03-22 Thread lists
Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Theo Buehler <t...@openbsd.org> > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: t...@cvs.openbsd.org2016/03/21 07:49:47 > > Modified files: > faq: current.html > > Log message: > add missin

Re: [patch] www faq13.html - add 13.5: record, audio monitor

2016-04-13 Thread lists
Hi tech@ Based on the thread [http://marc.info/?t=14601536351] now following up with a much improved diff by valuable patient guidance and very fine feedback from ratchov@ tj@ tb@ that got accepted in as FAQ section 13.5 Learned a lot from the iterative process, thank you all & best regards,

Re: tmux(1): dealing with broken wcwidth(3)

2016-04-28 Thread lists
> stuff that works outside tmux to also work inside Some time ago I lost the capability of moving back and forth between words in tmux using control with left and right key. Excuse the interrupt, is this character width related at all?

Re: usb: cache vendor, product and serial

2016-05-20 Thread lists
Wed, 18 May 2016 19:08:29 +0200 Martin Pieuchot > On 18/05/16(Wed) 18:28, Patrick Wildt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I had the pleasure of debugging a USB mass storage device that showed > > interesting behaviour when used with our stack and in combination with > > the blink(1) usb

Re: sendbug subject

2016-05-16 Thread lists
Mon, 16 May 2016 00:01:59 +0200 Jeremie Courreges-Anglas > "trondd" writes: > > > On Sun, May 15, 2016 1:22 pm, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > >> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 06:43:16PM +0200, Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote: > >>> "Ted Unangst"

Re: Is loss of read-only /usr permanent?

2016-05-14 Thread lists
Fri, 13 May 2016 17:16:19 -0400 RD Thrush > On 05/13/16 11:07, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >> Since the anti-ROP mechanism in libc [2] was added in late April, -current > >> with read-only /usr produces something like the following message: > >> re-ordering libraries:install:

Re: Is loss of read-only /usr permanent?

2016-05-14 Thread lists
Fri, 13 May 2016 18:55:58 -0500 Chris Bennett > I think you are totally missing the point that Theo just made. You too. > Marking partitions as read-only is useful, when and only when > appropriate. Expand on a wrong idea does not make it right. Your

Re: Is loss of read-only /usr permanent?

2016-05-14 Thread lists
Sat, 14 May 2016 12:24:50 -0400 RD Thrush > On 05/13/16 23:34, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >> The report is fairly easy to reproduce. Make the /usr filesystem > >> read-only in /etc/fstab, go to single user mode and exit back to > >> multi-user. I've appended a transcript.

Re: Is loss of read-only /usr permanent?

2016-05-14 Thread lists
Sat, 14 May 2016 12:25:47 -0400 RD Thrush > On 05/14/16 04:34, Craig Skinner wrote: > > Hi RD/all, > > > > On 2016-05-13 Fri 17:16 PM |, RD Thrush wrote: > >> > >> # cp -p /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig > >> # sed -e 's,/usr ffs rw,/usr ffs ro,' /etc/fstab > >> #

Re: [ntpd] Simultaneously listen on IPv4 and IPv6

2016-05-18 Thread lists
Tue, 17 May 2016 08:27:42 -0500 Brent Cook > This patch came by way of the openntpd github. Linux (and possibly others) > will attempt to bind to 0.0.0.0 when binding to '::' and return an error if > it can't, unless IPV6_V6ONLY is set. See >

Re: Is loss of read-only /usr permanent?

2016-05-15 Thread lists
Sat, 14 May 2016 19:47:59 +0100 Kevin Chadwick > > Finally, the read only file systems on a writable medium susceptible > > to all sorts of failure modes is a silly silly useless trick. This > > does not provide any real technical benefit but your own discomfort. > > Pipe

Re: Improve error message in rcctl(8)

2016-09-06 Thread lists
Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:04:55 +0200 Antoine Jacoutot > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 09:01:08PM +0200, ludovic coues wrote: > > 2016-09-06 20:53 GMT+02:00 Antoine Jacoutot : > > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 12:29:58PM -0400, Anthony Coulter wrote: > > >>

Re: Improve error message in rcctl(8)

2016-09-06 Thread lists
Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:54:33 + Robert Peichaer > > Hi tech@, > > > > Daemon names historically match Antoine's alphanumeric proposal, and I > > think underscore is a bit too much, if it's present use minus instead. > > The logic behind this? Match this to word termination

Re: Improve error message in rcctl(8)

2016-09-06 Thread lists
Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:41:53 +0200 Jeremie Courreges-Anglas > li...@wrant.com writes: > > > Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:54:33 + Robert Peichaer > >> > Hi tech@, > >> > > >> > Daemon names historically match Antoine's alphanumeric proposal, and I > >> > think

[patch] www . plat.html - validation nitpick

2016-09-01 Thread lists
Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:15:29 -0600 (MDT) T.J. Townsend > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: t...@cvs.openbsd.org2016/09/01 09:15:29 > > Modified files: > . : plat.html sparc.html > faq: faq1.html > > Log message: >

Re: ifconfig baudrate

2016-08-31 Thread lists
Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:42:07 -0600 "Theo de Raadt" > > I'd rather have this as an extra rather than replacing the more > > specific information. > > I agree... > Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:17:26 +0200 Peter Hessler > On 2016 Aug 31 (Wed) at 17:04:38 +0200

Re: correct option listing in switchd(8)

2016-09-24 Thread lists
Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:12:03 +1000 Jonathan Gray > Sync the option list with reality. Don't document the internal > -I and -P options that set the instance number and title on > purpose. Hi Jonathan, I think undocumented and/or intentionally non synchronised options contradicts

Re: pkg_add mirror latency testing, setting program

2016-08-23 Thread lists
Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:09:38 + Luke Small [...] > It downloads the ANNOUNCEMENT file from each mirror, which is both small > and has the same name for every release. [...] Hi Luke, Two comments, first everyone knows their geographic location, time zone and respectively

Re: pkg_add mirror latency testing, setting program

2016-08-23 Thread lists
Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:32:48 + Luke Small > You can only tell the fastest latency for a download by testing it at your > location. It is very fast. > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:25 AM wrote: > > > Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:09:38 + Luke Small

Re: Spool contents (smtpd offline) owner/perm check?

2016-11-06 Thread lists
> > I don't think it is reasonable. > > > > First of all there shouldn't be a case where the permissions needs to be > > fixed in the first place, if something hits queue with wrong permissions > > there is something really worrying that shouldn't be fixed without admin > > deciding to do so. > >

Spool contents (smtpd offline) owner/perm check?

2016-11-05 Thread lists
Hi tech@, While investigating missing system mail, I found out the messages were in /var/spool/smtpd/offline One of them actually contains the explanation for why these were missing: == /etc/mtree/4.4BSD.dist diffs (-OLD +NEW) == --- /var/backups/etc_mtree_4.4BSD.dist.current Thu Sep

Re: cwm ptrmove keybindings

2016-11-11 Thread lists
Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:42 -0500 Okan Demirmen > Hi, > > mpi@ recently alerted me to the fact that cwm(1)'s default keybindings for > ptrmove actions conflict with emacs users' uses, namely all the > control-[arrow] > bindings that cwm(1) grabs. It has actually been like this

Re: cwm ptrmove keybindings

2016-11-21 Thread lists
Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:00:52 +0200 li...@wrant.com > Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:20:56 -0500 Okan Demirmen > > On Thu 2016.11.17 at 03:30 +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:47:49 +0200 li...@wrant.com > > > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:42 -0500 Okan Demirmen

Re: cwm ptrmove keybindings

2016-11-16 Thread lists
Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:47:49 +0200 li...@wrant.com > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:42 -0500 Okan Demirmen > > Hi, > > > > mpi@ recently alerted me to the fact that cwm(1)'s default keybindings for > > ptrmove actions conflict with emacs users' uses, namely all the > > control-[arrow] >

Re: cwm ptrmove keybindings

2016-11-17 Thread lists
Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:20:56 -0500 Okan Demirmen > On Thu 2016.11.17 at 03:30 +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:47:49 +0200 li...@wrant.com > > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:42 -0500 Okan Demirmen > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > mpi@ recently

Re: [patch] Enable support for Subpixel Antialiasing / LCD Filter

2017-01-15 Thread lists
Sun, 15 Jan 2017 14:04:01 + Stuart Henderson > > > There has been a privious discussion on this list on this topic [5] > > > where tedu@ mentions, that this issue is irrelevant once you get a > > > decent display with a higher DPI (or use bitmap fonts), which is of > > >

Re: newsyslog timestamp

2017-03-13 Thread lists
Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:16:01 +0100 Alexander Bluhm > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 04:31:35PM -0600, Todd C. Miller wrote: > > How about we just eliminate the "logfile turned over" message > > entirely? It's kind of bogus for newsyslog to be writing to the > > log files directly.

[patch] src etc/root/root.mail - adjust the Emacs package version

2017-03-04 Thread lists
Sat, 4 Mar 2017 14:40:45 -0700 (MST) Theo de Raadt > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: src > Changes by: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org 2017/03/04 14:40:45 > > Modified files: > etc/root : root.mail > > Log message: > fix date and mention installurl way of pkg_add

Re: doas: add confirm to prompt the user on what is to be executed

2017-06-08 Thread lists
Thu, 8 Jun 2017 20:17:02 +0200 Adam Wolk > This email is a request for comment, roughly I want to know if others > see this feature as valuable. Hi Adam, Simple shell wrapper functions can replicate the are you sure thing. Only a reminder to focus on implementing just

Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

2017-08-28 Thread lists
Mon, 28 Aug 2017 10:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Ted Unangst > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: src > Changes by: t...@cvs.openbsd.org2017/08/28 10:16:58 > > Modified files: > usr.sbin/apmd : apmd.8 apmd.c > > Log message: > add -z and -Z options to auto suspend or

Re: i386 zzz broken, Was: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

2017-08-31 Thread lists
Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:39:18 -0700 Mike Larkin > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:48:20AM -0700, Mike Larkin wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 04:32:04PM -0700, Mike Larkin wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:18:13PM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > > Mon, 28 Aug 2017

Re: i386 zzz broken, Was: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src

2017-08-29 Thread lists
Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:32:04 -0700 Mike Larkin > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:18:13PM +0300, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Mon, 28 Aug 2017 10:16:58 -0600 (MDT) Ted Unangst > > > CVSROOT: /cvs > > > Module name: src > > > Changes by:

Re: Include hostname in shell prompts by default

2017-12-09 Thread lists
Sat, 9 Dec 2017 18:44:44 +0100 Theo Buehler > This was discussed in a smaller circle and has been in snaps for two > days, but I'd like to show this to a wider audience. > > Theo asked me to make sure that all our shells print a prompt including > the hostname by default.

Re: Include hostname in shell prompts by default

2017-12-09 Thread lists
Sat, 09 Dec 2017 11:10:03 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > the default prompt works exactly because it doesn;t try to second guess > > what the user wants, or what is or isn;t good for them. the mechanism > > for changing the prompt is trivial. > > > > i don;t think it makes sense

Re: Include hostname in shell prompts by default

2017-12-09 Thread lists
Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:02:07 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > With all the respect and understanding what you're saying is true, yet > > I have the time to change my prompt, and it would still affect me. > > If you have changed it, it is irrelevant what the value was before > the

Re: Include hostname in shell prompts by default

2017-12-09 Thread lists
Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:33:30 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:02:07 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > > > With all the respect and understanding what you're saying is true, yet > > > > I have the time to change my prompt, and it would still affect

[patch] www faq/current.html - validation

2018-05-26 Thread lists
Tue, 22 May 2018 02:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Stuart Henderson > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: www > Changes by: st...@cvs.openbsd.org 2018/05/22 02:43:22 > > Modified files: > faq: current.html > > Log message: > mention php default version switch > Hi

Re: [markup] manual page HTML validation

2018-05-28 Thread lists
Mon, 28 May 2018 16:35:22 +0200 Ingo Schwarze > Hi Anton, > > li...@wrant.com wrote on Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:39:05PM +0300: > > > https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fman.openbsd.org%2Fpf.conf > >

[markup] manual page HTML validation

2018-05-28 Thread lists
Sat, 26 May 2018 14:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Ingo Schwarze > CVSROOT: /cvs > Module name: src > Changes by: schwa...@cvs.openbsd.org2018/05/26 14:04:38 > > Modified files: > usr.bin/mandoc : mandoc.css > > Log message: > Start with baby steps towards

Re: Basic SHA3 support

2018-01-10 Thread lists
Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:34:44 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > Another question raised by a SHA-3 import is whether this should > > also be added to LibreSSL and if we want to continue with having > > duplicate implementations of hash algorithms in libc and libcrypto. > > very good

Re: [bugfix] xterm(1) needs "cpath" pledge(2)

2018-07-29 Thread lists
Sun, 29 Jul 2018 15:46:20 +0300 (EEST) Leonid Bobrov > Lauri, Matthieu, thank you for saving me the trouble having to read and > understand the code of this big fat hippopotamus. > > So, that means somehow I actually accidentally pressed annoying touchpad > and was lucky enough to click

Re: Patch to add 2 words to share/dict/web2

2018-03-06 Thread lists
Tue, 6 Mar 2018 10:46:24 -0500 Kurt Mosiejczuk > On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 08:07:53PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > If we added the complete english language, /usr would be full. > > > (Already a few people having trouble with multiple upgrades + the > > new

Re: manpage text width

2018-03-30 Thread lists
Fri, 30 Mar 2018 08:23:12 -0700 Chris Bennett > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:57:43PM +, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > I *could* maybe teach man(1) to honour $COLUMN by default when > > starting up in interactive mode, but i did not do so for the following > >

Re: sbin/wsconsctl: show more data

2019-01-05 Thread lists
Hi Frederic, tech@, This 16x32 font looks both wasteful in screen estate, and difficult to read on both desktop and laptop screens of average 100 PPI (2010-2020) Can we actually (do better and) show more data, for example try using: 1) Default font size that is as close to minimum (and NOT

Re: sbin/wsconsctl: show more data

2019-01-05 Thread lists
Just need a manual page and a tunable at some point, didn't much before. Still needed more text lines on the console and utf8 options previously. Got less chars now, so console is a regression in data thus readability. Also, mention of direction in change log / commit message would be nice. On

Re: sbin/wsconsctl: show more data

2019-01-07 Thread lists
Mon, 07 Jan 2019 16:27:46 -0700 "Theo de Raadt" > > use stty -a > Also, probably complementary methods could be considered: $ tput co li $ wsfontload -l

Re: games/fortune translation fix

2019-02-04 Thread lists
Sat, 2 Feb 2019 18:10:21 +0100 Alessandro DE LAURENZIS > Dear developers, > > Currently the latin motto "Ad astra per aspera" is translated as "to the > stars by aspiration", which sounds weird. It is NOT weird, but improved upon. Your "improvements" reverted those. > The literal translation

Re: no output on glass console after switching to serial

2020-08-02 Thread lists
Sat, 1 Aug 2020 20:54:28 +0100 Stuart Henderson > I've just been building a machine with serial console to go to colo > tomorrow and have noticed that there's no output on glass console > after the "switching console to com0" message. Hello Stuart and all, This never worked for me for many

Re: top: Fill last character in process line

2020-06-04 Thread lists
Wed, 3 Jun 2020 20:25:27 +0200 Klemens Nanni > On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 05:33:24PM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > > Actually I've got them the wrong way round here, but others have already > > explained them anyway :-). > Yup, which is why I will simply drop the diff: way too much hassle for

Re: rm.1: remove extraneous word

2021-09-02 Thread lists
Thu, 02 Sep 2021 14:28:54 -0700 Evan Silberman > Speaking of the first sentence of rm(1): Where is that discussion happening, how is it concerning the rm(1) manual page? > Remove extraneous word from command description What is the rationale for this, is it entirely missing or undisclosed

Re: Unhibernation broken with boot.conf

2021-09-09 Thread lists
Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:19:23 + ha...@sdf.org > > The hibernate check does: > > > > bootdev_has_hibernate(void) > > { > > return ((bootdev_dip->bios_info.flags & BDI_HIBVALID)? 1 : 0); > > > > > > Someone could have a boot.conf that changes their default disk because > > they want to

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