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From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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- Original Message - 
From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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[PBSS] Fw: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

- Original Message - 
From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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[SWR] Fw: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

- Original Message - 
From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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- Original Message - 
From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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- Original Message - 
From: Arburn Don 
To: Cavers TSA 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!

--- donarb...@mac.com

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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

2012-10-04 Thread Arburn Don

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!


--- donarb...@mac.com

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

2012-10-04 Thread Arburn Don

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!


--- donarb...@mac.com

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

2012-10-04 Thread Arburn Don

TCR is coming up fast!  As many may know, we have reserved the entire fabulous 
park of Paradise Canyon near Medina lake and I am excited! Today I picked up 
the door prizes and -man-o-man- some folks are gonna walk away with some cool 
stuff!! 

There are contests aplenty! Rope climbing, survey, etc. We will have projectors 
(slide and digital) so bring your pictures to share. The ubiquitous hot tub 
will set up and awaiting to sooth your caving aching muscles. The river is 
beautiful and flowing and the grass is green and waiting for your bare toes and 
tent pads. The park is bigger and better than ever and there was a rumor that 
the owner bought nearly 50 acres across the road for hiking and ridge walking. 
There are cabins as well for those who need more civilized accommodations (you 
need to contact the park directly and make these arrangements). Bring your well 
behaved dogs (clean up after them!), kayaks, canoes and floaties and bikes and 
camp chairs. We will have a do-dah parade with a Maya Apocalypse theme, so come 
prepared for it and costume contest! 

As usual we will have awesome food for those who eat and beer for those who are 
thirsty!

If your pet/child is well behaved and well socialized, it is welcome to attend. 
If it barks/screams incessantly or starts fights or bites or has mange, please 
leave it/them at home. We have had pretty good luck in the past, lets not ruin 
it now. No explosions/cannons/rockets/fireworks/dragons, please. Live 
chupacabras welcome as are genuine sasquatch. We will be checking.

Cavers, the park loves having us and we want to keep it that way, please clean 
up after your pets and pick up any trash you find. The park has always been 
impressed by how we leave the park cleaner than before we arrived, lets show 
them how environmentally conscious we are.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  We do what we can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

Please, come contribute your uniqueness and awesomeness to this annual event!!


--- donarb...@mac.com

Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Don Cooper

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Lyndon Tiu

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Don Cooper

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Lyndon Tiu

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Don Cooper

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-03 Thread Lyndon Tiu

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Don!
 Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
 Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
 accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
 Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
 have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
 amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
 Frank


 On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!

 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

 Paradise Canyon is the place.

 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
 a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Arburn Don

O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
Reunion 2012!!

October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

Paradise Canyon is the place.

For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and caver 
camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the camping 
extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional 
bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a 
bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River. The 
park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic 
tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub, 
Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This 
year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Amanda Scott

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

Sent from Amanda's iPhone

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
 get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
 Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
 added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
 Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
 course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Frank Binney

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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2012-06-01 Thread Arburn Don

O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
Reunion 2012!!

October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

Paradise Canyon is the place.

For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and caver 
camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the camping 
extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional 
bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a 
bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River. The 
park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic 
tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub, 
Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This 
year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Amanda Scott

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

Sent from Amanda's iPhone

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
 get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
 Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
 added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
 Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
 course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Frank Binney

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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2012-06-01 Thread Arburn Don

O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
Reunion 2012!!

October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.

Paradise Canyon is the place.

For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and caver 
camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the camping 
extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional 
bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a 
bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River. The 
park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic 
tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub, 
Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This 
year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!

Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Amanda Scott

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

Sent from Amanda's iPhone

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
 additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
 get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
 Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
 added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
 Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
 course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

2012-06-01 Thread Frank Binney

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, Arburn Don d...@oztotl.com wrote:

 O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
 Reunion 2012!!
 
 October 18, 19, 20  21, 2012 is the date.
 
 Paradise Canyon is the place.
 
 For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
 caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
 camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
 bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
 bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
 The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
 tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
 Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
 year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
 
 Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
 
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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan Cobb


Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be 
good for the weekend.


Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap 
of $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR 
affordable.  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me 
off-list and we can work something out. Registration will accept cash 
and checks but not credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it 
is easiest for us.


TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, 
after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  
The bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  
An important part of registration is the liability release to be on the 
property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going 
around and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is 
cover those who don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't 
register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.


I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We 
have some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey 
contest where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing 
contest and you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other 
contest too!


See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Linda Palit

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:

 Howdy y'all,

 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
 good for the weekend.

 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
 can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
 credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
 after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
 bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
 important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
 property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
 and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
 don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
 and everyone else paying for you.

 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

 See y'all there!
 Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 do I have to register the dogs?
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 Howdy y'all,
 
 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
 for the weekend.
 
 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
 If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
 work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
 cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
 
 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
 TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
 line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
 of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
 the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
 wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
 The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
 else paying for you.
 
 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
 
 See y'all there!
 Allan
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Stefan Creaser

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Linda Palit
linda.k.pa...@gmail.commailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb
mailto:a...@oztotl.coma...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR! It looks like the weather will be good
for the weekend.

Here is the breakdown for registration. Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80
for a family (adults and kids). I do what I can to keep TCR affordable. If
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers. Last year, after
TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering. The bottom line
is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register. An important part of
registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in the
police business and we will not be going around and checking for wristbands.
Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. The bottom line
is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.

I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
friendships. TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes. We have
some great contests lined up. You can try your hand at the survey contest
where you can win survey instruments! Win at the rope climbing contest and you
can get rope! We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

See y'all there!
Allan

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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan Cobb


Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be 
good for the weekend.


Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap 
of $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR 
affordable.  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me 
off-list and we can work something out. Registration will accept cash 
and checks but not credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it 
is easiest for us.


TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, 
after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  
The bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  
An important part of registration is the liability release to be on the 
property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going 
around and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is 
cover those who don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't 
register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.


I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We 
have some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey 
contest where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing 
contest and you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other 
contest too!


See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Linda Palit

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:

 Howdy y'all,

 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
 good for the weekend.

 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
 can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
 credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
 after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
 bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
 important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
 property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
 and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
 don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
 and everyone else paying for you.

 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

 See y'all there!
 Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 do I have to register the dogs?
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 Howdy y'all,
 
 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
 for the weekend.
 
 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
 If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
 work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
 cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
 
 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
 TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
 line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
 of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
 the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
 wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
 The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
 else paying for you.
 
 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
 
 See y'all there!
 Allan
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Stefan Creaser

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Linda Palit
linda.k.pa...@gmail.commailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb
mailto:a...@oztotl.coma...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR! It looks like the weather will be good
for the weekend.

See y'all there!
Allan

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan Cobb


Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be 
good for the weekend.


Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap 
of $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR 
affordable.  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me 
off-list and we can work something out. Registration will accept cash 
and checks but not credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it 
is easiest for us.


TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, 
after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  
The bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  
An important part of registration is the liability release to be on the 
property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going 
around and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is 
cover those who don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't 
register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.


I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We 
have some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey 
contest where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing 
contest and you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other 
contest too!


See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Linda Palit

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:

 Howdy y'all,

 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
 good for the weekend.

 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
 can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
 credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
 after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
 bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
 important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
 property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
 and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
 don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
 and everyone else paying for you.

 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

 See y'all there!
 Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 do I have to register the dogs?
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 Howdy y'all,
 
 It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
 for the weekend.
 
 Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
 $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
 If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
 work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
 cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
 
 TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
 TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
 line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
 of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
 the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
 wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
 The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
 else paying for you.
 
 I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
 friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
 some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
 where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
 you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
 
 See y'all there!
 Allan
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

2011-10-05 Thread Stefan Creaser

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Linda Palit
linda.k.pa...@gmail.commailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb
mailto:a...@oztotl.coma...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR! It looks like the weather will be good
for the weekend.

See y'all there!
Allan

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-09-23 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

It is only three short weeks until we all converge on Flat Creek near Johnson 
City for the 34th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion.

For more information and directions, visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

We have lots of fun and excitement on tap for the weekend.  We have contests 
organized and vendors scheduled.  We have LOTS of great prizes for the 
competitions and door prizes.  Everyone who comes out is a winner but some of 
the lucky ones will leave with some great prizes!

We’ve gotten a little rain but not nearly enough to alleviate the fire danger 
so we ask everyone to be very careful with fire.  TCR recommends that every car 
have at least one dry chemical fire extinguisher. The fire extinguisher should 
have an A in its rating.

This year, the Bexar Grotto has decided not to do a fundraising dinner on 
Friday night so y’all are on your own on that night. Saturday night we will 
have the Big Feed and Stephan and crew are planning some good eats for 
everyone.  Please bring your own plate, utensils, and a mug.  Sunday morning, 
from about 8 AM to 10 AM the TCMA will be hosting a fundraising breakfast.  We 
invite everyone to come and have breakfast while helping TCMA get more caves.

The TSA and TCMA will be having Members Meetings on Sunday morning.  The TSA 
meeting starts at 8 and will next to where TCMA is offering breakfast so you 
can have breakfast and coffee while you hear all the exciting news from the 
TSA.  Following the TSA meeting is the TCMA meeting at 9AM.  You will have a 
chance to hear all that TCMA is up to and have a chance to meet the directors.

See y’all there!
Allan and Ellie

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-09-23 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

It is only three short weeks until we all converge on Flat Creek near Johnson 
City for the 34th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion.

For more information and directions, visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

We have lots of fun and excitement on tap for the weekend.  We have contests 
organized and vendors scheduled.  We have LOTS of great prizes for the 
competitions and door prizes.  Everyone who comes out is a winner but some of 
the lucky ones will leave with some great prizes!

We’ve gotten a little rain but not nearly enough to alleviate the fire danger 
so we ask everyone to be very careful with fire.  TCR recommends that every car 
have at least one dry chemical fire extinguisher. The fire extinguisher should 
have an A in its rating.

This year, the Bexar Grotto has decided not to do a fundraising dinner on 
Friday night so y’all are on your own on that night. Saturday night we will 
have the Big Feed and Stephan and crew are planning some good eats for 
everyone.  Please bring your own plate, utensils, and a mug.  Sunday morning, 
from about 8 AM to 10 AM the TCMA will be hosting a fundraising breakfast.  We 
invite everyone to come and have breakfast while helping TCMA get more caves.

The TSA and TCMA will be having Members Meetings on Sunday morning.  The TSA 
meeting starts at 8 and will next to where TCMA is offering breakfast so you 
can have breakfast and coffee while you hear all the exciting news from the 
TSA.  Following the TSA meeting is the TCMA meeting at 9AM.  You will have a 
chance to hear all that TCMA is up to and have a chance to meet the directors.

See y’all there!
Allan and Ellie

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-09-23 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

It is only three short weeks until we all converge on Flat Creek near Johnson 
City for the 34th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion.

For more information and directions, visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

We have lots of fun and excitement on tap for the weekend.  We have contests 
organized and vendors scheduled.  We have LOTS of great prizes for the 
competitions and door prizes.  Everyone who comes out is a winner but some of 
the lucky ones will leave with some great prizes!

We’ve gotten a little rain but not nearly enough to alleviate the fire danger 
so we ask everyone to be very careful with fire.  TCR recommends that every car 
have at least one dry chemical fire extinguisher. The fire extinguisher should 
have an A in its rating.

This year, the Bexar Grotto has decided not to do a fundraising dinner on 
Friday night so y’all are on your own on that night. Saturday night we will 
have the Big Feed and Stephan and crew are planning some good eats for 
everyone.  Please bring your own plate, utensils, and a mug.  Sunday morning, 
from about 8 AM to 10 AM the TCMA will be hosting a fundraising breakfast.  We 
invite everyone to come and have breakfast while helping TCMA get more caves.

The TSA and TCMA will be having Members Meetings on Sunday morning.  The TSA 
meeting starts at 8 and will next to where TCMA is offering breakfast so you 
can have breakfast and coffee while you hear all the exciting news from the 
TSA.  Following the TSA meeting is the TCMA meeting at 9AM.  You will have a 
chance to hear all that TCMA is up to and have a chance to meet the directors.

See y’all there!
Allan and Ellie

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-08-02 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

Now that the NSS Convention in Colorado is over, it is time to think about the 
next big event—the Texas Cavers Reunion!

This year, we will be back at Flat Creek Ranch near Johnson City.  You can find 
more information and directions at www.oztotl.com/tcr. Mark the weekend of 
October 14-16 on your calendars and come on out for all the fun we have to 
offer.  We will have competitions, vendors, and all the usual fun.  We have 
even lined up the Terminal Syphons for music on Saturday night.

We are hoping for rain between now and TCR so that we have water to swim in. 
Also, it is usually much cooler in October.

I hope to see y’all there,

Allan

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-08-02 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

Now that the NSS Convention in Colorado is over, it is time to think about the 
next big event—the Texas Cavers Reunion!

This year, we will be back at Flat Creek Ranch near Johnson City.  You can find 
more information and directions at www.oztotl.com/tcr. Mark the weekend of 
October 14-16 on your calendars and come on out for all the fun we have to 
offer.  We will have competitions, vendors, and all the usual fun.  We have 
even lined up the Terminal Syphons for music on Saturday night.

We are hoping for rain between now and TCR so that we have water to swim in. 
Also, it is usually much cooler in October.

I hope to see y’all there,

Allan

[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

2011-08-02 Thread Allan B. Cobb

Howdy y’all!

Now that the NSS Convention in Colorado is over, it is time to think about the 
next big event—the Texas Cavers Reunion!

This year, we will be back at Flat Creek Ranch near Johnson City.  You can find 
more information and directions at www.oztotl.com/tcr. Mark the weekend of 
October 14-16 on your calendars and come on out for all the fun we have to 
offer.  We will have competitions, vendors, and all the usual fun.  We have 
even lined up the Terminal Syphons for music on Saturday night.

We are hoping for rain between now and TCR so that we have water to swim in. 
Also, it is usually much cooler in October.

I hope to see y’all there,

Allan

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-24 Thread Ron Miller

Someone still had to get the porta johns so we did not have 300+ folks 
defecating the land. Not entirely free.

Folks could have got in by just paying the parks per night camping fee of $15 
per car.
http://www.hiddenfallsadventurepark.com/camping.html



 Ron






From: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 8:31:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Rather than assume nefarious cheapskate-ism, remember that when we held TCRs on 
private land (no use fee) the main/only thing the registration fee paid for 
was the food. People who were not there for the Saturday dinner or did not want 
to eat the dinner didn't need to pay. (If this was not the policy this 
certainly 
was the misperception).

Reminding folks that That was then and this is now and things are different 
may very well take care of most of this issue. Jacqui 


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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

2010-10-22 Thread Denise P


And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread...
 
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! 
Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year? 
 
Cheers,
Denise

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

2010-10-22 Thread Don Cooper

PIRATES of the Caribbean!

Strictly rated: ARR!


-WaV

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote:

  And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread...

 Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot!
 Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year?

 Cheers,
 Denise

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

2010-10-22 Thread Fritz Holt

I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next Monday. 
It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce.

Fritz

From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Denise P
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

PIRATES of the Caribbean!

Strictly rated: ARR!

-WaV
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P 
pepabe...@hotmail.commailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com wrote:
And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread...

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! 
Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year?

Cheers,
Denise

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

2010-10-22 Thread Gill Edigar

It would be great if other Grottos or demented  groups would make
floats, etc and participate in the DooDah Parade next year.
--Ediger

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Fritz Holt
fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote:
 I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next
 Monday. It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce.

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-21 Thread Dale Barnard

The sound for the Syphons was great. I could hear all the instruments, 
lead singer, and backup singers. That's a lot to mix, and Rod had them 
sounding great.


Dale

On 10/20/2010 10:42 PM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
And thanks to Rod Goeke for all the AV support (he even came and 
chopped wood with Matt Zap at the pre TCR work day)


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[Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

2010-10-20 Thread Diana Tomchick

Thanks to all who helped with the event, including Roger Moore, who picked up 
the Shiner beer that was donated for this year's TCR. Shiner Beer, the Beer of 
Texas Cavers!

I like the sound of that.

Now no one needs to feel guilty about not paying for the event beer.

I particularly enjoyed the chance to go for a short mountain bike ride on one 
of the Level 4 4x4 roads on the property. I say ride as it was such a steep 
route I was pushing the bike as often as I was riding it. I now know that the 
wheelbase on my large Tundra is too long for those routes. Our dogs enjoy going 
for bike rides with us, and while trying to get a drink of water, they managed 
to find the muddiest spot on the property in a creekbed, so they earned a bath 
when they got home.

I missed seeing David Locklear show up for the event--I expected to see him 
right before/after Saturday night's dinner, but I don't know if he ever made it.

Diana

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-20 Thread J. LaRue Thomas

Rather than assume nefarious cheapskate-ism, remember that when we held TCRs 
on private land (no use fee) the main/only thing the registration fee paid 
for was the food. People who were not there for the Saturday dinner or did 
not want to eat the dinner didn't need to pay. (If this was not the policy 
this certainly was the misperception).


Reminding folks that That was then and this is now and things are 
different may very well take care of most of this issue. Jacqui 



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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-20 Thread Linda Palit

Most people pay.

That is a good thing, since we pay for them whether they pay or not. 

It would take a lot of volunteers to have people pay at every station and a
lot of money would have to be carried around all the time. 

 

Nice to hear all the different ideas, but things work pretty well and most
people are pretty honest, or I like to believe that about cavers. 

Things evolve as access to land and sites evolves.  

And it is always such a treat to see so many people.

 

From: SS [mailto:back2scool...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:24 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

 

How do you know they just didn't wear their wrist band.  I didn't don mine
until suppertime..  I can imagine there are some who just forgot or just
plain did not put their wrist bands on at all.  

 

If this is a problem the most surefire way to safeguard against this in the
future would be to charge for dinner at the dinner table, charge for entry
into caver camp at the entry to the Caver Camp, Charge for beer at the beer
table (or sell a wrist band for beer at the beer table and no refills w/o a
wrist band.)  

 

This way you get the money for everyone for everything without insulting
anyone.  Event 101.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:52 PM
To: Ron Miller
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

 

But the biggest cost is *not* the *food*.

 

Logistically having two organisations collecting fees *is* a nightmare, and
the fee the park would charge is unlikely the be the same as TCR charges for
the same. I'm not in the least bit involved with the organisation of TCR
(other than the food) but I could easily assume that TCR pays a flat fee to
the landowner which is then amortised over the TCR attendees to keep the
cost *down*; by extension the fee to not eat the Saturday meal at TCR could
be higher than eating it!

 

Stefan

 

From: Ron Miller [mailto:rons...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:03 PM
To: Carol Belski; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

 

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the
park office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then
have TCR collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.

 

Ron

 

 

  _  

From: Carol Belski bels...@valornet.com
To: Gill Edigar gi...@att.net
Cc: Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want to eat
the provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per family).  I
suspect this would be a bo! okkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius
could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the
costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

 If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
 probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
 found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
 to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
 it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
 about um.
 --Ediger
 
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.
 
 Allan
 
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-20 Thread Fritz Holt

OK, charge each individual entering the event a fee based on the cost for 
leasing the premises and the portapotties (even if they prefer to go in the 
woods). Charge separately for food and drink. I'm sure this is 
oversimplification as there are other costs involved that must be shared. Or, 
charge a fee for all costs except food and pay for that when you eat. The 
problem would be knowing how many would be partaking of the feast. I'm sure the 
board or organizers can come up with a satisfactory solution.

Geezer, and fortunate to be.


From: freddie poer [mailto:freddiepoe...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:16 PM
To: Carol Belski
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

So far, Carol Belski has been the only one on this list to make a suggestion 
that doesn't involve villianizing those that don't want to pay for the food and 
beer part of TCR. All other responses have basically been a police type 
response that isn't needed or probably wanted at events like TCR. Some people 
do want to attend TCR and cannot afford the full price, contrary to what some 
others might think. In the long ago past, when TCR was still called Texas Old 
Timers Reunion (the original name) people had an option to not have to pay for 
food they weren't going to eat. Some people don't want to stand in line for 
long periods of time, or do not drink the beer that is provided. There should 
be an option for those that want to attend but not partake of those activities. 
At events like these, you will always have a few who do not register for some 
reason. You may not like that, but it is a fact of any large event like TCR has 
become. I personally think there is a better approach than turning yourself 
into an impromptu cop, or harboring bad feelings about those that do not 
conduct themselves the same way you do. Where is your sense of caver comraderie 
or cohesion when you are ready to victimize fellow cavers who don't act the way 
you think they should? Maybe some of us should leave our better than thou 
attitudes behind when we attend these functions, and just let bygones be 
bygones.

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Carol Belski bels...@valornet.com wrote:

From: Carol Belski bels...@valornet.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010
To: Gill Edigar gi...@att.net
Cc: Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com, texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 2:31 PM
Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just 
a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

 If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
 probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
 found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
 to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
 it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
 about um.
 --Ediger

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb 
 a...@oztotl.comhttp://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=a...@oztotl.com
  wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.

 Allan

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-20 Thread Jay Jorden

On the TCR: A memorable event, as always. Put it in a swamp (we've been
there) and cavers will still find creative ways to have fun. Stefan and a
cast of dozens put on an excellent culinary show. Speleolympics-style
competition, mud wrestling, hot tubbing, tale-swapping and more -- provided
something for everyone. Many wonderful friends showed up to share the
weekend. The vendors delivered quite a few keepers, and the Si(y)phons led
us on a musical march through the big-hair days gone by to rock the house.

On the venue: It was what it was -- a big ol' dry ranch with lots of
dirt/gravel roads. We've seen worse. Allan did what he could. The weather
cooperated. Trees were a plus, the waterless scenery a minus. Oh, I know --
didn't offer an alternative, did I? We have some fine ones to the north --
but too far from the Center of the Caving Universe and its satellites. ...
Wouldn't want to start any jokes about the provinces.

On the dust: a bit of nay-saying here ... My left lung finally started
clearing out last night -- but still coughing it up. I suspect some former
asthmatics out there may have also experienced those familiar,
short-of-breath gasps -- accompanied by what feels like a stabbing backache.
The problem: too much dust of talcum-powder consistency was hanging in the
still air most of the time -- much of it resulting from how we were
outnumbered by the larger offroad crowd driving their Toyota FJs, ATVs, and
other knobby-tired 4x4 vehicles way too fast down the middle of these
unmanaged dirtbike trails.

On the dough: I have mixed emotions. The bottom line is just that for TCR:
it's a make-or-break every year. We can't have folks sneaking onto a
pay-per-visit site. So to prevent that, the options of banquet and
no-banquet could be revived: one price for TCR admission, another for TCR
plus the feed. I recall we did this in the past, with those opting for the
latter choice receiving a food and drink coupon. That said, those who
protest about the Saturday feed during registration should be shamed into
buying it -- it's a great thing!

Jay

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:

 What's a little dust between friends, anyway?  It all came off in the first
 shower.  (The truck is next.)

  Roger



 -Original Message-
 From: Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
 Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

  Howdy y'all,

 TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
 to all those who came out.

 Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

 I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
 TCR.

 I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
 registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
 rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
 behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
 everyone helped.

 This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
 to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

 See y'all next year,
 Allan
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-20 Thread ellie . thoene

And thanks to Rod Goeke for all the AV support (he even came and  
chopped wood with Matt Zap at the pre TCR work day)


On Oct 18, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:


Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people.  
Thanks to all those who came out.


Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a  
while.


I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole  
point of TCR.


I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who  
manned registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal  
Syphons for a rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all  
the people who worked behind the scenes doing all the things that  
make TCR happen.  Thank you to everyone helped.


This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have  
to come to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.


See y'all next year,
Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

The dust was minor compared to the camaraderie, visiting with friends, meeting 
new ones and the overall good time had by all.
Thanks Allan, Linda, Lyndon, Pete, Stefan and the many others who made it 
happen. Location is the least important part of this great event and I will 
never have a complaint except we should have it semi-annually.

Fritz


From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:05 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Dusty?
What dust?
Never noticed a thing.
Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
Had a great time!

Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this 
event possible!

===Carl Kunath



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To: texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Hi All,

I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.

I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who 
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)

Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello

Please thank them next time you see them!

I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us 
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were 
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they 
were *all* appreciated

Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).

(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)

Cheers,
Stefan

(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)

From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

It is difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully cheat 
the supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part  of the 
best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is not a 
member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed their 
reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can purchase 
related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the membership fees. 
If you arrived after hours and forgot to register later, you can still send a 
check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not belong in our 
group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next year and Gill and 
I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist band and ask them why 
they don't have one.

It was a great event and thanks again to all who worked to make it possible.

Fritz



-Original Message-
From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill 
Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.

 Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Yes, my Ford Exploder and ATV get their bath tonight after work.

Fritz

From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:58 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

What's a little dust between friends, anyway?  It all came off in the first 
shower.  (The truck is next.)

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010
Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks to 
all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned 
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a 
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked 
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to 
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come to 
TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Every year I forget one, and I *knew* I was missing someone...

Thanks also to Jim Kennedy for doing the pork fried rice, and of course to his 
helpers!

Cheers,
Stefan

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:58 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Hi All,

I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.

I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who 
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)

Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello

Please thank them next time you see them!

I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us 
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were 
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they 
were *all* appreciated

Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).

(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)

Cheers,
Stefan

(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)

From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-19 Thread Carol Belski

Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want  
to eat the provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per  
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some  
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more  
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.


Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:


If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:

The registration count was indeed 381 people.

Allan


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

It doesn't take a logistics genius to figure this out. Even I can do it. 
It primarily takes all event paying individuals to be observant and report 
those who they know have failed to pay. It ain't squealing, it's fair play.
We pay, why shouldn't they?

Fritz

-Original Message-
From: Carol Belski [mailto:bels...@valornet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:32 PM
To: Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want  
to eat the provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per  
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some  
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more  
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

 If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
 probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
 found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
 to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
 it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
 about um.
 --Ediger

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.

 Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

An essential part of TCR is the big feed on Saturday night; it's an 
opportunity for *everyone* to come together and meet their friends, or even new 
people, without having to go search them out or attend the same activities they 
are.

WRT  ...those who can't/don't want to eat...  then join up with the cooks and 
cook what you can/want to eat that perhaps other people will too!

We, the cooks, *do* make an effort to provide healthy, allergy and lifestyle 
aware foods. For instance, 2 of the 3 salad recipes required fish sauce which 
is not (according to my veggie contacts) vegetarian, so we substituted. The 
*normal* substitute for fish sauce contains wheat but that's not acceptable to 
those who need gluten free, so we substituted that. Did you notice... don't 
think so! Etc. etc.

The food is not the biggest part of the cost of a TCR but it's the only bit for 
which a wristband is checked. It should not be what gates you buying a 
wristband or not, that part is just your conscience.

Cheers,
Stefan


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From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:22 PM
To: 'Carol Belski'; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

It doesn't take a logistics genius to figure this out. Even I can do it.
It primarily takes all event paying individuals to be observant and report 
those who they know have failed to pay. It ain't squealing, it's fair play.
We pay, why shouldn't they?

Fritz

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From: Carol Belski [mailto:bels...@valornet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:32 PM
To: Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want
to eat the provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

 If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
 probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
 found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
 to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
 it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
 about um.
 --Ediger

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.

 Allan

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

2010-10-19 Thread Ron Miller

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the 
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the park 
office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then have TCR 
collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.


 Ron






From: Carol Belski bels...@valornet.com
To: Gill Edigar gi...@att.net
Cc: Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010

Maybe a different registration fee for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a  camping only fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it 
out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a 
thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

 If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
 probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
 found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
 to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
 it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
 about um.
 --Ediger
 
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
 The registration count was indeed 381 people.
 
 Allan
 
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Dust Bowl 2010