[tw5] Drag and Drop and specified deserializer for string data

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Recently Saq has extended the dropzone functionality to support specified deserializer for string data! This gives huge flexibility for drag and drop contents. One use case is to drop the bibtex entry copied from another site like Google Scholar! e.g drag and drop the below text to create a bibte

[tw5] Re: bug? getindex failing retrieve json with $:/temp/... named tiddlers

2021-05-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière
Thank you Josh! You're right. I've just made my test on a new wiki and I can't replicate it. I apologize for the inconvenience. I was pretty sure it was of the correct type but surely I've not been able to spot that. Le jeudi 6 mai 2021 à 00:14:34 UTC+2, joshua@gmail.com a écrit : > I coul

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Tones, Very good stuff! Thank you These are worth curating for official documentation! Best wishes Mohammad On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 7:52 AM TW Tones wrote: > Also in relation to a reference on drag and drop > Control Panel > Tiddler Titles >

[tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Mario, You say $:/temp/ .. - Is a namespace for temporary variables, which don't trigger an automatic save. If I can do without periodical saves, on a particular large tiddler, should I be importing large files or tiddlers (data plugin) and renaming them with the $:/temp/ prefix so as I make c

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Cj, If you want to try that you can create a view template that tests if the tiddler is missing. If it is it will display the missing message and you can interrogate the URL used to get there and propose the users click a search button to find the tiddlers new title, if by no other method than

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Wait there is more... (not steak knives), If you open a plugin tiddler, then export it as a json file. You can drag the file to any wiki to install the plugin, or use my suggested windows workflow *Another big one not in this thread yet. "iFrames and drag and drop!".* - If you *open a wiki

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Also in relation to a reference on drag and drop Control Panel > Tiddler Titles >Optionally display tiddler titles as links Display tiddler title

[tw5] Re: Searching in TW

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Poop. Just the first double-quote. On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:48:30 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > Search instead for "is operator" (with the double-quotes) > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:34:10 PM UTC-3 dieg...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I was searching for documentation on the "is operat

[tw5] Re: Searching in TW

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Search instead for "is operator" (with the double-quotes) On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:34:10 PM UTC-3 dieg...@gmail.com wrote: > I was searching for documentation on the "is operator": > > [image: Kapture 2021-05-05 at 21.30.28.gif] > > I think TW search can be muched improved! > > > -- You

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
That is some good stuff. Only one of those I'd dare fuss about: - Using URL's containing search and reference to a unique ID is superior to permanent links. That one I'd say "it depends" on a whole bunch of things. Every solution is superior to every other one depending on the trad

Re: [tw5] [Discussion] Additional Tag handling feature(s)

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Mohammad, I want to be able to apply a filter when ever referencing tags, in view and edit templates, and other tag templates. Not necessarily globally. An example may be a tag pill that only appears if the tag is itself a member found by the filter. An example may be a tag line that only disp

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
There is a lot of water under the bridge in this thread so here are a few points that may or may have not being covered; - In summary it is not difficult to generate stable permalinks. This is based on 100's of hours of my time considering these issues and dozens of prior conversations.

[tw5] A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
What the heck, I ask for forgiveness rather than for permission. I'm thinking this may be worth a distinct thread in case it generates loads of questions/comments. YouTube video based on the conversation in Relink vs Permalinks : TiddlyWik

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
YouTube video: TiddlyWiki: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:34:24 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote: > The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data > integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my qu

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Wiktowy
This sounds like symbolic links vs hard links in file systems. If you change the name of the file that a symbolic link (or shortcut in Windows) points to, it breaks. If you change the name of a file that a hard link points to it doesn't break . The reason for this is that the hardlink doesn't p

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
uups. Here's the link to the github discussion: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5668 On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 12:07:37 AM UTC+2 PMario wrote: > I did create a Discussion at github. So it should be longer visible for > the devs. > > Title: New Idea about Permalinks and

[tw5] Re: bug? getindex failing retrieve json with $:/temp/... named tiddlers

2021-05-05 Thread Joshua Fontany
I could not recreate this in my JsonMangler demo wiki. If `$:/temp/project` is being created with an action/programatcially, then most likely the `type` field is not being set to `application/json`. Best, Joshua Fontany On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 1:41:21 AM UTC-7 jn.pierr...@gmail.com wrote:

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
Hi Walt, Yes, link-rot is a problem. If we could improve it, we should definitely think about it. I think the relink-plugin is very popular. It is one of the first plugins I import into my own wikis. ... It makes it easy and safe to change tiddler titles, without messing up the wiki. So the

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
I did create a Discussion at github. So it should be longer visible for the devs. Title: New Idea about Permalinks and link-rot using tiddler titles #5668 With the popularity of the relink-plugin, it is much easier for users to change tiddler titles, without messing up the wiki itself. The

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 6:12:15 PM UTC+2 Anjar wrote: Here is a demo for a new permalink button. It creates a new field called > permalink and inserts -. Since the title is > unique at creation, this string should be unique (?). Further, it copies > the appropriate link to the clipboard;

[tw5] Re: A tour through my Zettelkasten

2021-05-05 Thread Jack Baty
I ended up just repeatedly bisecting the tiddler files until it broke. The error was thrown because there was one empty (zero-byte) tiddler. I thought I'd checked for that originally but must have missed it. I was using the empty file that Soren provided earlier in this thread. Now I have to de

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 1:43 AM PMario wrote: > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:42:39 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > > Yes, this is such a powerful feature! Many do not know about it! >> I have a bundle of utility tiddlers packed as JSON and stored in a >> bookmark (Chrome, FF) and when I visit a Tiddl

[tw5] Re: Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Version II This is a more polished version of 'prefix:term' or Google like search box. What is new: - search like created:2020 title:operator which returns results to meet both criteria - search filter is displayed - search tips can be displayed on demand using details element - s

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 7:42:39 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: Yes, this is such a powerful feature! Many do not know about it! > I have a bundle of utility tiddlers packed as JSON and stored in a > bookmark (Chrome, FF) and when I visit a Tiddlywiki quickly drop the > bookmark and then > I can l

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Anjar
Hi Walt, I am glad it solved the first problem. Ad #2: You are right, permalinks created *earlier *are not affected by this solution. However, if you *now *rename the SolutionToProblemOfLinkRot tiddler to ProblemOfLinkRot and click the permalink button, then both #:[contains:permalink[*solutio

[tw5] Re: Stroll - navigating to text field with TAB key

2021-05-05 Thread 'girrodocus' via TiddlyWiki
Thanks a lot for trying David - I'm very grateful. -g :) On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:51:35 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote: > Hi girrodocus, > > I tried a bunch of stuff, and it still doesn't work. So apparently > editor-autolist is not the problem. Hopefully someone else here can figure > ou

[tw5] Re: A tour through my Zettelkasten

2021-05-05 Thread Jack Baty
This looks to have nothing to do with Soren's script. It fails simply doing this... tiddlywiki rl-wiki --savewikifolder public-wiki/wiki 1680 of 2200 tiddlers are exported. Still don't know how to find the offending tiddler(s) though :) On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:57:56 PM UTC-4 Jack Baty w

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
Correction to my last: dunno what caused the phenom i reported as #1 above, but i can no longer replicate that error; the new URL works fine. However: problem #2 reported above persists -and so my question about a potentially simpler solution to this two-headed problem stands. /walt On Wednesda

[tw5] Re: A tour through my Zettelkasten

2021-05-05 Thread Jack Baty
Thanks for this, Soren. I was practically hyperventilating while watching the video as I watched you address one thing after another that I struggle with. Namely, the public vs private distinction. Your approach is exactly what I would like to use. Your script works great on a test subset of my

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
Your spec ticks all the boxes, Anders... So i installed it, but not getting the hoped-for result, alas. *What i did:* Changed URL on the "ProblemOfLinkRot" tiddler to "SolutionToProblemOfLinkRot"; selected (modified) Permalink button in pulldown tiddler menu -and it copied the composite URL, co

Re: [tw5] Re: Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Lovely! very handy! On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:16 PM Stobot wrote: > I've thought about the concept myself a lot over the years, and ended up > deciding that if I was going to go that far, I might as well just use > filter notation. So rather than do something special for tags:myTerm I'd > ju

[tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote: > I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the > Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this? > >- variable name > - by $set > - by $vars > - by $list > - by

[tw5] Re: Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Stobot
I've thought about the concept myself a lot over the years, and ended up deciding that if I was going to go that far, I might as well just use filter notation. So rather than do something special for tags:myTerm I'd just do [tag[myTerm]]. Now you can't do that in the normal, main search box, bu

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:50 PM PMario wrote: > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:42:07 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > >> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:36 PM David Gifford wrote: >> >>> But who is going to pick up all these dragon droppings? >>> >> >> Dave, may be for doing the same job we can ask what is t

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:47 PM PMario wrote: > On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 9:53:55 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > > 6. drag a tiddler to browser bookmark and later drag into another wiki >> > Hi Mario, > > Thanks, to bring this to my attention again. ... I completely forgot about > it! > Yes, this i

[tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote: ... > I am not sure but I assume Tiddlywiki does not have support for namespace! > but I see TW honors scope of variables! > We do use the term: "namespace" .. but probably in a different context as you mention here. eg: $:/temp/

[tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote: > I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the > Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this? > >- field name > > There are some restrictions for tiddler field-names. "Field n

[tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote: I see from TW official docs and codes, it uses > > tv- prefix for variable > tc- prefix for some CSS selectors > tv- ... tiddlywiki variable tc- ... tiddlywiki class tm- ... tiddlywiki message These prefixes are reserved for "the cor

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:42:07 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:36 PM David Gifford wrote: > >> But who is going to pick up all these dragon droppings? >> > > Dave, may be for doing the same job we can ask what is the best practice? > But I love this drag and drop featur

[tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 9:53:55 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: 6. drag a tiddler to browser bookmark and later drag into another wiki > Thanks, to bring this to my attention again. ... I completely forgot about it! In normal cases I go the "export to json" import route, because I do have a "backu

[tw5] Re: Very random Javascript errors

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 8:28:54 PM UTC+2 Ste wrote: > Red Screen of Death. Sometimes also called RSOE Red Screen of > Embarrassment. > Thx, ... Did forget to explain it :) -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe fr

[tw5] Re: action-delefield et json

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:24:15 PM UTC+2 jn.pierr...@gmail.com wrote: > well, the current way of deljeting an index is not very satisfying from > the readability point of view. so yes, an $action-deleteindex is as > justified as $action-deletefield. and if not, then $action-deletefield > sho

[tw5] Re: action-delefield et json

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:24:15 PM UTC+2 jn.pierr...@gmail.com wrote: > well, the current way of deljeting an index is not very satisfying from > the readability point of view. so yes, an $action-deleteindex is as > justified as $action-deletefield. and if not, then $action-deletefield > sho

[tw5] Re: Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Note: in prefix:term space is not allowed! Best wishes Mohammad On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 8:53 PM Mohammad Rahmani wrote: > This is a partial solution! > >1. In tiddlywiki.com create a new tiddler and paste the below wikitext >2. Save and enter in the search box a prefix:term like title:

[tw5] Re: Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
This is a partial solution! 1. In tiddlywiki.com create a new tiddler and paste the below wikitext 2. Save and enter in the search box a prefix:term like title:operator or tags:learnings \define tidTemp() xx$:/temp/kookma/search \define doSearch(field:"", term:"") <$list filter="[all[t

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Anjar
Hi, Here is a demo for a new permalink button. It creates a new field called permalink and inserts -. Since the title is unique at creation, this string should be unique (?). Further, it copies the appropriate link to the clipboard; https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[contains:permalink[new-tiddler-202

[tw5] Search box using symbol and search prefix

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Is there any plugin or wikitext to let search using search prefix and symbols? I mean like Google or GitHub using something like below title:myTiddler keywords:myKeywords tags:myTerm Here title and keywords and tags are search prefixes! In Tiddlywiki they are fields The symbol is colon(:) So a

Re: [tw5] Re: [Announcement] "TW Icons" - A large collection of icons for TiddlyWiki

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao cari, I have started a discussion thread on usage of TW Icons here: https://github.com/morosanuae/tw-icons/discussions/2 I think it will be useful for real usage. Take a look at least. Do comment if you can. Best wishes TT On Friday, 30 April 2021 at 21:53:42 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread dieg...@gmail.com
Here are some related threads where I also shared some thoughts along this topic: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/pvc-qqoWHdI/m/TcX3FPNaAgAJ https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/WtNz2X10jIA/m/9VaQHBjUCwAJ I also would love to have built in support for uniqueIDs (created serves g

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Oh, and also a button to give a tiddler a uid field with an auto-generated uid value. Something like that ... On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 12:07:59 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > Anders, you sweet and huggable you. > > That way of getting tiddlers is new to me, and just gave me a fantastic >

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Anders, you sweet and huggable you. That way of getting tiddlers is new to me, and just gave me a fantastic idea. Now knowing that URL's like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[title[Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot]] and https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[delivery[Service]] Then having auto-generated/auto-created uid

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Anjar & David Nice one! I agree with David. Without a clear, one button, method to get the "PERSISTENT DATE STAMP REAL PERMALINK" like that it is too obscure a method for daily use. When you open the tiddler "created" field is, of course, not visible. *SO how do you quickly, one click,

Re: [tw5] Re: Change the title of a tiddler from the tiddler itself?

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:11 PM PMario wrote: > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:22:04 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > >> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Saq Imtiaz wrote: >> >>> True for all fields. A field is changed by creating a new Tiddler with >>> the same fields (including title) and updating the

Re: [tw5] [Discussion] Additional Tag handling feature(s)

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:45 PM TW Tones wrote: > Mohammad, > > If you are referring to this > from > eric > > Here's a customization that does what you want: > > 1) edit $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags > 2) in the <$list> widget,

[tw5] Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

2021-05-05 Thread Atronoush Parsi
I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this? - tiddler name - field name - macro name - variable name - by $set - by $vars - by $list - by $wikify - css selector

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:36 PM David Gifford wrote: > But who is going to pick up all these dragon droppings? > Dave, may be for doing the same job we can ask what is the best practice? But I love this drag and drop feature ;-) > > On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 2:50:01 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:02 AM Joshua Fontany wrote: > Drag and Drop a whole wiki into another wiki (a more recent TW version) to > automatically import all user-created tiddlers into the new wiki. > Ah yes, this is a great one on manual upgrading! > > On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 2:00:09 AM UT

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:35 PM TW Tones wrote: > Or this; > > <$list filter="[[ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget]] [[ActionListopsWidget]] > +[!sort[modified]]"> ><$link/> {{!!modified}} > > > ;Newer test > <$list filter="[[ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget]] [[ActionListopsWidget]] > +[sort[modified]] +[la

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:47 PM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > @Mohammad: > > >> Great! So, we can use the new named prefix :sort? >> Is it possible to have multiple steps filter like below >> >> filter1 :filter[step2] :filter[step3] >> >> > Yes multiple filter runs can be combined just as before (with +, ~

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Josiah, On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:28 PM TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Mohammad wrote: > >> Back to winter 2019, when we were working on the Commander plugin ... >> > > I like how you used the "Royal WE" :-) ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we) > I laughed a lot on this! Very nice! But this

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
I forget to mention that ProjectForum is defunct since 2016, just in case anybody's curiosity got the best of them. If curiosity is still getting the best of you: https://web.archive.org/web/20160528045948/http://www.projectforum.com/pf/pfuserguide.pdf On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:43:16 AM

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
TiddlyWiki's Tiddler Template could be modified to show something other than the title field in the "title area" of a tiddler. Not sure how much fiddling it would take to get that working. Using createdate is a really quick way to go, It can only be a little bit lousy on a day in which a whol

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Another solution: when one wants a link to a tiddler that will never change: create a "URL-safe" tiddler (i.e. a name that will never change) with the only purpose of transcluding a tiddler with a title that could be subject to change at any time. So, if you have "Tiddler XYZ", have an auto-ge

Re: [tw5] Streams 0.21 is now available

2021-05-05 Thread si
Thanks Saq - sorry I had not seen that setting. On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 12:25:17 UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: > @Si > > @Saq - Totally unrelated question. Is there a way to save and exit a node >> while on mobile? I.e. the equivalent of Ctrl+Enter on a normal keyboard. >> > > Enable the s

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread David Gifford
> I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just sharing > links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[2014090408570]] > Anjar, I like this idea. Is there a way to hijack the permalink button so that it displays this? -- You received this message because you are subs

[tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-05 Thread David Gifford
But who is going to pick up all these dragon droppings? On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 2:50:01 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote: > Drag and drop contents into Tiddlywiki for importing and exporting > contents is one of the amazing features of Tiddlywiki, it is not known as > it deserved. > > To bring the po

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
That's a new one on me, Anders; will give that plugin a try -thanks! /w On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:59:09 PM UTC+1 Anjar wrote: > Hi Walt, > > It should be trivial to modify the permalink button to produce links as > https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[2014090408570]] but the creation > t

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
Right-click on the link, copy and paste ? Kind of like this: https://tifoist.neocities.org/CJ_TIFOIST_PROJECT.html#Fact-01 Because, say, "Tid-123" is a little hard to identify, one would need to customize TiddlyWiki a little to have links that display maybe the caption field's text (o

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
I've been following your forms development w/ interest, Charlie -and this makes it all the more interesting- but i really think this idea of permalinks using createdate is much simpler, if indeed that attribute satisfies the 2 aforementioned criteria. There is so much goodness in a TW instance

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Anjar
Hi Walt, It should be trivial to modify the permalink button to produce links as https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[2014090408570]] but the creation time is not guaranteed to be unique (the link will then open both tiddlers, so no harm is done), although in practice it usually will be An al

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
Yes, TT: PERMAlink should be just that -which is why i advocate for tying it to something that is both guaranteed unique AND immutable by its very nature -not by convention (i.e. best practice). In fact one should be free to change Title of a tiddler, as it is the right thing to do under certai

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao cj.v..., Interesting! Functionally that is working like a SURROGATE permanent REDIRECT. *It is a clever solution!* but requires the logic of the Wiki to change considerably and its owner to know what to do. :-) HOW, for instance, do you quickly generate a PERMALINK you can quickly post

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Charlie Veniot
G'day walt, That is a huge pain point for me. In my previous career, I relied heavily on the ProjectForum Wiki to keep track of everything. It did not use page names in URL links, but rather used auto-generated unique identifiers. So I could change page titles to my heart's content, knowing

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
Hey @Anjar -that's cool! Could be the makings of a viable solution. Question: Create-date is both immutable, even if the tiddler name is modified, and guaranteed unique -is that right? If so, then this would satisfy the conditions of a UID -and then i can still change the tiddler's Title (whic

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao walt, I feel your pain. BUT a PERMAlink is as its name suggests. All the gizmoidology we have in TW now to CHANGE the Titles of tiddlers and correctly RELINK them will NOT address the PERMAurl issue if the clickee ONLY has your previous version of the link. This leads me to think you are

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread Anjar
Hi, I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just sharing links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[2014090408570]] Best, Anders onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 14:15:43 UTC+2 skrev ludwa6: > OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then i'd > better

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then i'd better explain myself better. Here's a meta-example i've just documented: 1. Create a tiddler on this topic, and give it a permalink: https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#AvoidingLinkRot. Share link with friends, to

[tw5] Re: "Filter Expression" doc

2021-05-05 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Joshua's reply is the best way to work with docs. However, if you aren't already using node and just want to make a PR for a single tiddler, you can do so via the Github web interface. - Find the tiddler you want to make a PR for at TiddlyWiki.com - From the tiddler toolbar choose the more

Re: [tw5] Streams 0.21 is now available

2021-05-05 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@Si @Saq - Totally unrelated question. Is there a way to save and exit a node > while on mobile? I.e. the equivalent of Ctrl+Enter on a normal keyboard. > Enable the setting called "Exit editing on saving an empty node

Re: [tw5] Streams 0.21 is now available

2021-05-05 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@joshua > I like the idea that Streams would store its relational data NOT on the > parent tiddler, but in some other (system prefixed?). That is worth > exploring. :) > > This is top of my list when I next get a solid chunk of time to work on Streams. -- You received this message because

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread Saq Imtiaz
@Mohammad: > Great! So, we can use the new named prefix :sort? > Is it possible to have multiple steps filter like below > > filter1 :filter[step2] :filter[step3] > > Yes multiple filter runs can be combined just as before (with +, ~ etc). Note that the input to each filter run is the output f

[tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mohammad wrote: > Back to winter 2019, when we were working on the Commander plugin ... > I like how you used the "Royal WE" :-) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we) Commander is brilliant! And basically YOU :-) Best wishes TT > -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Or this; <$list filter="[[ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget]] [[ActionListopsWidget]] +[!sort[modified]]"> <$link/> {{!!modified}} ;Newer test <$list filter="[[ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget]] [[ActionListopsWidget]] +[sort[modified]] +[last[]]"> ;Older test <$list filter="[[ActionDeleteTiddlerWidget]

Re: [tw5] [Discussion] Additional Tag handling feature(s)

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
I think like this; <$set name=tag-filter value=<> emptyValue="[all[]]"> <$list filter="[tags[]] +[subfilter] +[sort[title]]"> Now I now need to find where I may wish to add this. eg; <$set name=tag-filter value=<> emptyValue="[tag[Filter Operators]]"> <$list filter="[tags[]] +[subfilter] +[s

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao walt, Right. Tiddler PERMALINK-ability posted as URLs elsewhere is intimately tied to NOT changing Titles. Personally I can't get in a hot sweat over that. That is no different than any other web page. SURE you could get into REDIRECTS on a server or up the complexity within TW of self-R

[tw5] Re: "Filter Expression" doc

2021-05-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière
Thank You Josh. I still have a question re "Fork the TW5 repository to your own GitHub user account, and then clone it locally." I thought I only had to clone the TW5 repository directly onto my system and have done my work here, and then present a pull request from here? I have to say, that I

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Walt, As I understand it your concern is when using permalinks. In this case you are externalising a tiddler with a URL. I think there is an argument that if you use a permalink it should be for something permanent. Now if you would like the ability to generate a link that will return to the s

[tw5] Re: bug? getindex failing retrieve json with $:/temp/... named tiddlers

2021-05-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière
further investigation has lead to finding the problem is not with the name. My original tiddler was created by a filter + action widget process. If I craft by hand a #:/temp/project tiddler with tho contents given and the json type, then there is no bug. This problem lays with the metadata of t

Re: [tw5] [Discussion] Additional Tag handling feature(s)

2021-05-05 Thread TW Tones
Mohammad, If you are referring to this from eric Here's a customization that does what you want: 1) edit $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags 2) in the <$list> widget, change this: <$list filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]".../

Re: [tw5] Re: Change the title of a tiddler from the tiddler itself?

2021-05-05 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:22:04 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote: > On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > >> True for all fields. A field is changed by creating a new Tiddler with >> the same fields (including title) and updating the necessary field when >> creating that new Tiddler.

[tw5] bug? getindex failing retrieve json with $:/temp/... named tiddlers

2021-05-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Rivière
Be a tiddler of json type whose content is { "pleiade": { "name": "Pléiade v2", "project": "pleiade", "url": "https://pleiade.test.acmeserver.com"; } } and now put it in two tiddlers. one is "project" and the othes is "$:/temp/project". create a tw5 tiddler with this code: $:/temp/project: {{

[tw5] Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-05 Thread ludwa6
The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, without compromising the integrity of Permalinks? This feels like a deep problem

Re: [tw5] Re: Change the title of a tiddler from the tiddler itself?

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Saq, On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > True for all fields. A field is changed by creating a new Tiddler with the > same fields (including title) and updating the necessary field when > creating that new Tiddler. I did not know this! So, tiddlers are immutable is a correct

Re: [tw5] Re: filter question: which tiddler is newer

2021-05-05 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Saq, Very clever! Both works! On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:08 AM Saq Imtiaz wrote: > Does this do what you need? > > Aa Bb +[nsort[modified]limit[1]] > > I am wondering why we did not try this which was available from 2015? ;-) > Or try something like this in 5.1.24 pre-release: > > Aa Bb :s