Hi Josiah,
It's done by pummelling a spreadsheet ~ it's supposed to be automated but
in practise, it takes a lot of trial and error to get the macros right. If
you had a hundred of them to do, it'd be fairly automated but you'd still
be cleaning up the input by hand.
This is the spreadsheet I
Hi,
As Hegart points out, the tension derives from the fact that the title is
the primary key in the data-store.
How would you differentiate between your three tweets if they have the same
title and tags?
The best/simplest way to do this, in my experience, is to give them all
names that
I agree it's interesting to consider mass conversion of texts from
Gutenberg - at least, it would be good to imagine a tool that lets someone
easily choose a standard e-text, import it and then clean it up.
If you are just looking for clean versions of the texts, you can search
for, eg;
Hi Mark,
getVariable is defined in widget.js
If you search the whole project using an editor such as Atom or Brackets,
you get a list of all the lines containing the string and you can look
through to find the definition or you can try searching for "getVariable ="
and it should find the
It's true that the file gets bigger, obviously, but the main point of my
test was to assess how much it slows down by with a large structured text
and the answer is 'not much' - the document I compiled had around 23,000
tiddlers and was quite useable. There are some exceptions to that.
Part of
Hi Jed,
Do you use an integrated editor to do your coding? I use ATOM and find it
quite easy to search for functions across a whole project folder (ie; the
TW repo)
The idea of rebuilding the code so that each function //is// a tiddler is
very interesting.
Regards,
Richard
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I think magictabs are part of Alberto's Scholars edition - there's a site
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I'm afraid I've never used it, so I'm not sure how it works.
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Hi Alex,
I did the same and it does work, but not if you set the tiddler type to SVG
- which is confusing to me.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s3YE_g5Q_NQ/VY42ElmwnsI/BdU/VuApLhmjniE/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-06-27%2Bat%2B3.34.25%2Bpm.png
@Andrew - SVG graphics are really cool,
Hi Alex,
The point of using something like disqus is that people must have
credentials to leave a comment, which stops a lot of spam.
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Just adding my two cents - I don't think I would use this very much but it
could be achieved by adding the option to maintain hierarchy - the effect
would be that opening every tiddler would eventually leave you with them
all open in a prescribed order. This might be useful for something like a
Hi Mario,
I think you should only have one vertical bar in the pretty link? ie;
[[github issue: Allow saver to be specified for
download|https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1755]]
I supposed that Mat intended to use it something like this;
github issue: Allow saver to be specified
Yes github has an api, but it would create a network request everytime the
code is rendered, which may be every keystroke.
For me, it would be ok, to ping Wikipedia, if I open a tiddler.
Hi Mario - I found the github api and was just reading up on it. I thought
it might be a good way
Hi Mat,
I applaud your vigour in attempting to stretch wikitext to it's limits but
I think we might be at it's limit here (Jeremy?)
Like you, I am 'not a coder', but I think it might be easier for us to
figure out the necessary javascript (and start to become coders!) than to
look for a
Hi Alex,
If you're really keen on this, you could try altering the text
of $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title
In all likelihood I've broken something horribly, but I was able to add
$link/$link (in two places) and it *appears* to do what you describe
(but please, please don't use it on your real
I hope this isn't annoying - it is *very* off-topic, but I know some of
you, like me, are non-coders with an interest in code, and I found this
article to be an exceptionally interesting (long)
read. http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-paul-ford-what-is-code/
As far as I understand it, our
Hi again Mat,
I suspect this might be a version issue, and/or there may be abetter way to
do it - see this tiddler - http://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Parameter
I think I need to refresh my understanding of the software in it's current
state - I suspect it can do a few things I don't know about
Hi,
I hadn't tried this until today but it appears that BJ's $taglist plugin is
broken under 5.1.8
This might have been discussed already and I missed it. I'm not asking for
a fix per se, just bringing it to your attention.
Did something change that would break it? Possibly a change to the
Hi Evan,
I understand now - you want to be able to compose the svg 'path' using a
filter and so wish to transclude the output of the filter into an
attribute. After some playing just now, I would concur that this doesn't
seem possible on the face of things.
Jed or someone else who has the
Hi Crash,
Personally, I use dropbox to store any TWs that I want to keep in sync
across multiple devices. That way I don't have to remember to save/sync
anything manually. I use a mac and a windows machine and not android.
If I want to run the node.js version on both of my machines, I can
Hi Danielo,
Thankyou for the explanation. I understand much better now and agree that
it's potentially very useful. I look forward to seeing it.
I will read some more about pouchdb and how it gets synced to remote server
- it would be great to have a reliable, roll-your-own dropbox/evernote
Hi Danielo,
It seems to me like the database tiddler should be deleted - because it
will be re-created if the process is repeated, right? And it's useless
while the wiki's open.
Do you mean that pouchdb will contain all of the tiddlers, or a separate db
of some kind?
What would happen if
Hi Jed,
I want to build an English-Swahili dictionary that can test me on
vocabulary, flashcard/lietner style - do you think your dictionary plugin
is a good way to go? I was going to use a tiddler for each pair-entry but
it might be easier to put them all into a data tiddler. Is it easy to
That's fantastic!
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Richard
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Hi Pieter-Michiel,
You can include the tags in the same way you include the other fields -
{{!!tags}}
is that what you mean? Are you adding dates as tags? You can extract the
created date from the hidden field like this:
$view field=created format=date template=DDD DDth MMM /
Regards,
Hi,
I think an expandable table of contents might give you what you want?
See tiddler:- Example Table of Contents: Selectively Expandable
div class=tc-table-of-contents
toc-selective-expandable Contents
/div
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Sounds good to me :)
I hope you'll share if you get it working - very interesting
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Hi Mans,
Starting with a spreadsheet - data in colums, no headers - put a blank
column inbetween each, starting at the beginning and, in the top cell, add
little snippets like this...
{ text:
so that, as a whole, a single line of the spreadsheet reads as a valid json
entry, with a comma
Hi Michele,
The tag-tiddlers are treated the same as other tiddlers, so they can
contain their own content, so putting your filter into the text field of a
tag-tiddler will render the list correctly there, but it won't have any
effect on the filter expression inside the tag-template. As you
Download it at home and take it to work on a thumb-drive? Try it with a
proper browser (can you email it home to yourself?) Try running portable
firefox http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
Try the stable release instead of the pre-release?
Can you save files that are emailed
Hi Jon,
I get it now, thanks - so the issue is how to keep track of which tags
belong to which set-of-tags. You can use tags for that too, by tagging the
tag-tiddlers. So the tiddlers mammal, reptile etc. are tags themselves and
their corresponding tag-tiddlers are each tagged with 'class' to
Hi Mat,
You can do it like this $link to={{!!field}}text/$link or put that in a
macro (pl = pretty-link)
\define pl(text)
$link to={{!!field}}$text$/$link
\end
and use if like this pl some text
or like this
\define pl(text field)
$link to={{!!$field$}}$text$/$link
\end
and use it like
Hi Jon,
I agree - that's weird - if I leave out the name of a tag altogether from
the brackets,
$list filter=[tags[]!is[system]![]sort[title]]
$transclude tiddler=$:/core/ui/TagTemplate/
/$list
there are still tiddlers removed from the list.
You can achieve your goal like this
$list
Hi Jeremy,
I agree it was a very interesting article. I've always felt slightly
ashamed of not having learned another language properly, but now I feel
quite proud of myself for just being able to make sense out this gibberish.
Everything the writer says rings true, and it's a very well
Hi Jed,
Thanks from me also for the explanation. I wasn't paying attention when I
tried it - sorry James.
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Hi Michael,
There is a widget here http://eucaly-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/ called match
filter that lets you extract pieces of fields. At first I thought I could
use it to solve your problem but once you've extracted the pieces and
sorted them, there's no way to relate them to the original
I think you *can* combine those two lines, like this
$action-setfield $tiddler=MyTemplate
title=MyNewTitle firstname=FirstName lastname=LastName/
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Hi,
I suspect you have something like this - note the space between the quotes
tabs [tag[About]] tc-vertical
This namesas the tiddler in which state should be stored and so you
get your *--1202157337 *when the qualifier is added.
The issue with pdfs not being displayed inline on your
I know you've probably already got one, but in case you don't, here's a
copy of the old-testament, built using filters from the individual verses.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/kjv.html
I think I found the easiest way to get stuff out of a spreadsheet into TW.
I'm sure we can all agree that the real tragedy of Macbeth is that it's
never before been published in wikitext.
This oversight is now remedied :) - http://macbeth.didaxy.net/
I have been playing with re-building texts from their constituent
micro-content and it occurred to me that plays are
Hi Scrutiny,
The class needs to be the fourth parameter. Try this;
tabs [tag[About]]tc-vertical
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us whether the limitation in FF
can potentially be worked around or whether it's permanent.
Regards,
Richard
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 10:33:00 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 4:06:08 AM UTC+1, Richard Smith wrote:
So, I was wondering if we could work together
Hi All,
1. I love TiddlyClip by BJ. I think it's a great extension and a real
selling point for TiddlyWiki as a whole.
2. We have a great community here and I think we should work together to
help Jeremy promote TiddlyWiki to the wider world if only because, by doing
so, we ensure it's
Hi Chris,
I downloaded a sample from here http://soundbible.com/1778-Cow-Moo.html and
was able to drag it into TW (chrome, mac-os) with no problem.
If keyboards are more your thing, you can also get it in there using the
import button in the tools menu of the sidebar.
The unsaved-wiki warning
Hi Jed,
Thanks so much for everything you've been doing lately. When 5.1.8 comes
out I'm going to take a full day to explore all of your threads and find
out what great new things I can do.
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I am trying to do similar things with LaTeX documents and am exploring
Pandoc scripting (http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/scripting.html), which
seems quite powerful in the kinds of conversions it can make. I think I
should be able to write a filter that augments one of the existing
This is great, thanks very much for sharing. The list of things I have to
learn about is growing so quickly!
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richard
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Hi Jon,
Sorry. I moved it into a sub-directory along with some others, the direct
link is
now
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/Books/Active_Calculus_v0.1.html.
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March 2015 03:10:02 UTC, Handoko Suwono wrote:
Hi Richard,
Yes I am using the latest v5.17 and still working on how to include
the punch theme. And also want to make the fonts larger or it might
have included in the punch theme.
Handoko -
On 3/10/15, Richard
Hi Alex,
It depends quite what you're after. This;
$list filter=[!is[system]!sort[modified]first[5]]
/$list
lists the last 5 modified tiddlers
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@Peter - I feel like there were actually a bunch of tools around 5 years
ago that never got the attention that they deserved. I haven't played with
TiddlyMap yet but it looks great. The ability to move backwards and
forwards between a mind-map and a wiki of the same information is very
Hi Alex,
I just played with this and it seems the output is not quite as expected -
it seems to list the last 'n' tiddlers AND any other tiddlers with the same
date as the last one.
If you have been editing your wiki often, it will list everything from at
least the last day. You can see this
Hi Handoko,
You should be able to start from this http://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky/
Regards,
Richard
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 3:49:04 PM UTC+11, Handoko Suwono wrote:
Sorry not to browse through because of my net.
Is there any theme or included for TW5 that is ready for presentation?
Peter,
Thanks for the suggestions - I've added Daniel Riggins' site to the list
and will check out Scalar in more detail - sounds very interesting.
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Hi All,
At Jeremy's invitation, I am putting together materials for a tiddlywiki
in education portal, to eventually be hosted under the main site and
addressing the particular use-cases found in education.
I'd really appreciate any feedback or input you might have about the site
itself or the
guidance?
Thanks for your help it's very much appreciated.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:25 AM, Richard Smith richardwil...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:
Hi Gabriel,
I'll help you do this, if I can. Take a look at this for starters:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414
Oh dear! That's no fun. Hope you feel better soon!
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Hi Gabriel,
I'll help you do this, if I can. Take a look at this for
starters: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/forGabriel.html
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It seems like you can just do this at tw.com to list all the fields that
are being used.
$list filter=[fields[]]
/$list
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Hi Jon,
I think the easiest thing to do seems to be to right click the rendered
image and 'save as' - you'll probably need to rename them - and then delete
the tiddlers. I agree the export options are confusing - there may be an
easier way to get multiple images out and, if not, maybe there
Hi Jon,
I hope you understand that I'm not trying to 'defend' TW, but just to help
you/us see if there is a problem of some kind that needs fixing.
The same file I mentioned has 727 svg images but only 5 jpg, so certain
file types could be an issue, I suppose.
You can get a copy of the file
I haven't tried this myself yet but it seems to offer an interesting
alternative to other file-hosting services for those wanting to move their
files around from machine to machine or share them with other
people:
Hi Nicola,
I'm not a developer but I think PMario's answer
here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/monspaced%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/PUqv7MrUOiU/4f81KUB3dX8J
may be relevant - I think you need to define your own code style so that
wikitext doesn't get suppressed, as it is
Hi Jeremy,
This is very interesting.
Did you see the maths textbook that I posted a link to
recently?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/Tiddlywiki/math/tiddlywiki/ZwPkUCfDzqI/xWOCz0LrZ9QJ
I am interested in the possibility of deploying content like this in the
app store, but it's
Hi @PMario
OK. I see. ... but imo I've seen some tiddlers, that only contained half a
sentence or a headline. ... So imo half a sentence without context looses
its meaning. ... So may be in the second step .. some mergers would be
helpful. .. but that's just my opinion.
At the
Hi Mat,
One side-question that pops up (literally) is the automatic opening of a
parallel tab in my browser after a while, showing spam. Could this somehow
be from your wiki or dropbox???
I have no idea, I'm afraid. I don't seem to be able to replicate it. Is it
dropbox-related spam?
The first response that pops off my synapses reading such a proposal is:
*Why?* and again: *Why?*
Hi Tobias,
My goal is to package information to be accessible completely offline (in
an environment where there is no possibility of an internet connection). I
would like to curate a
Hi All. I'm wondering if anybody has tried importing (largish amounts of)
wikipedia data into TiddlyWiki?
I can use BJ's excellent TiddlyClip to import individual pages but I wonder
if there's a way to get larger chunks of wikipedia?
It's possible to download offline dumps of various Wikipedia
OK. That was a bit lazy. I searched after I posted and found a similar
recent thread.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/wikipedia/tiddlywiki/BefZrA4BpqQ/-XLsXOaav5wJ
I'll contextualise my question a little better.
I have recently been corresponding with someone who works
Hi,
In addition to Birthe's suggestion, if you look at the tiddler
http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro you can see specifically how
the table of contents is actually generated. You'll see it has the tag
$:/tags/SideBar which is what makes it appear in the sidebar.
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One way to do it is to import your wiki to a node.js (TW) instance. Then
you can browse the tiddlers in your filesystem.
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I read that - but it doesn't make sense when you look at the behaviour of
the negated example.
Why is there a way to AND the tag-filter with NOT the list but there isn't
a way to AND it with the list.
Also, I don't really understand why it would be useful to replace the whole
list as part of
Hi all,
With regards the Philosophy of Tiddlers
http://tiddlywiki.com/#:%5B%5BPhilosophy%20of%20Tiddlers%5D%5D.
I read some of Tobias' and Jeremy's recent conversations about sections in
Tiddlers. Although I don't understand some of the complexities, I do think
the goal of 'smallest
Hi Stephan,
I'm sorry if you genuinely don't understand that the language construction
you used can be interpreted as confrontational. Perhaps you could have a
think about why that might be the case.
WHY I expected different behaviour was pretty clear in the difference
between the examples
Hmmm
That isn't what I expected either
If I go to Tiddlywiki.com and put this in a tiddler
$list filter=[list[]]
/$list
and give it a 'list' field 'A B A C' - not only is the second A not
rendered, but when the edit is saved, it gets removed from the list
altogether.
And also... it
Thanks Alex, That's really interesting.
Widening the bandwidth carries both risks and opportunities, and only you
can decide if it's something you might want to pursue.
Part of the risk is this: Possibly what has kept this community so civil
is the narrowness of its focus. It's hard to get
+1
@PMario
... as long as also every other non programming and programming community
member contributes to the documentation improvement.
Hi Mario,
Is there any chance we could coordinate this effort somehow? I am happy to
lend my time to the project but I'm a bit unsure as to where to
Hi Mat,
Thanks for coming back with humour and good grace. I've not been involved
in the hangouts before now, fearing also to make a fool of myself live on
air :) Perhaps now would be a good time to start (though the time
difference to Australia probably means I'll need a lot of coffee to
Hi Mat. I'm not a developer, but I am a daily user of TW. I really think
it's amazing stuff and I think it's awesome that Jeremy has given it away
for free to the world whilst devoting so much of his time to developing it.
I'm sure you don't mean to sound harsh in pointing out it's flaws,
In response to Mat's suggestion on another thread
(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/_rScP9Lscdg) I thought
it might be helpful to share the plugins that I am using and what I am
using them for and thought maybe you would like to do the same.
I am using:
1)
Hi Danielo,
Thanks very much for posting this.
In my list I transclude the body of each tiddler like this
{{!!text}}
This works because currentTiddler is being set. If I change the list
statement to include
variable=item
how do I refer to the correct tiddler?
{{??!!text}} or some other
Hi Tobias,
Thank you very much for your thoughts.
I believe Khan Academy provides an excellent example of this type of
integrated learning environment with much of the features as discussed by
Danny
Hillis in this talk. Of course, he seems to go a few steps further, talking
of
I didn't say it was pretty :)
I was using it to break up text as I read it, in pretty much the way Alex
described and then the bits I wanted to edit further, I would grab the text
from the view and paste it over all the garbage in the edit window. It
would only work for plain text. I know it's
This is really great. Well done!
Regards,
Richard
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Hi TWers,
As you may know, I am very interested in educational (micro) content. I
just came across this excellent talk by Danny Hillis which pretty much
crystalises my own opinion about the kind of learning system that we need
to build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKcZ8ozCah0
I think
Hi Jed,
It's an idea I've also been playing with for some time now. I've approached
it lots of different ways and ended up with dozens and dozens of TWs that
approach the problem in slightly different ways.
This is
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/Linear%20Functions.html what
I'm
I cut and pasted a document into my TW. I then refactored it into tiddlers.
Hi Alex,
I have been doing similar things to this. I love the TiddlyClip plugin that
BJ made (thanks BJ!). With it I can make 3 kinds of clips from wikipedia
pages (for example) - I can clip text, pictures or
Hi Andrew,
Did you start with the 'empty' TW5 file, as downloadable from the
'GettingStarted' tiddler? (http://tiddlywiki.com/#:GettingStarted)
I just downloaded a copy and it shows as being 1.2MB in size whereas the
'full' version with the docs etc. is about 3MB.
Any tiddlers that appear to
I've noticed that the green bar seems to persist regardless of clicking
escape. It used to be intermittent and now it seems to never go away
(Firefox, standalone).
Regards,
Richard
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This is great! I'd really like to help out with documentation. I guess the
right way to do that is through Github? Is there a brief explanation of how
to do so somewhere? I'm not 'put off' by Github but it takes a bit of
figuring out. I guess I fork the documentation, edit it and the do a 'pull
A little bit off topic.
Agreed. Apologies.
the server side backend seems to be closed source. At least I didn't find
any open source repositories.
Tin-Can is an open reference standard. Although I don't have much
experience of such things, I don't think it is too difficult to
Hi @PMario,
It's brainstorming what imo will be needed, to be allowed to base a
students grade on TW content.
And for students it would be possible to proof, that they did the manual
work to create the content.
This sounds interesting. I have also been thinking about things like this,
from
In my opinion, it's relatively simple to set up a web-server for anyone who
is comfortable with a bit of tinkering and figuring things out. Then
anything with a browser connected to the same network can access them. The
pirate box is basically just a router and a disk for serving files. The
Hi Atul,
The easiest way I have found to import images is to drag them into the wiki
and drop them (on the green drop-zone). You can import multiple images at
once in this way.
If necessary, you can put a 'browse' button where you want
it: http://tiddlywiki.com/#:BrowseWidget
Regards,
Because the 'edit-text' widget can't edit fields of the tiddler where it
resides, I'm trying to generate pairs of tiddlers with logically-related
names from a single button click.
Specifically, what I'm trying to do is have the user enter text in a box -
sometiddlertitle and then create two
Hi Jeremy and Thanks, as always
Why do you have to use a different template editor for each tiddler? Could
they share the same editor?
The idea was to subsequently display each pair of tiddler/editor alongside
each other. They are questions in Moodle's GIFT format and there will be
A million Thankyous.
Regards,
Richard
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Hello again, I posted this from the wrong account.
Just replying to myself so I can follow any replies.
Richard.
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Hi Uwe,
One place to start would be to have a look at:
http://tiddlywiki.com/talkytalky
It sets the height of all it's tiddlers the same in CSS
body.tc-body .tc-tiddler-frame { border: 0; margin-bottom: 0; min-height:
1000px; }
You can do this on a per-tiddler basis in the following way.
Regards,
Richard
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Hi Hans,
I'm no expert at all but have been playing with different set-ups.
Hosting your tiddlywiki as a website is spectacularly easy. If you have a
Dropbox public folder or similar, you can put your tw in there, point a URL
at it and you've got a website. (I have a demonstration of this at
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