[tw] TW5 include external js/css in meta area
Hi, I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code. the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script link href=css/my.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / ... any ideas how to solve it? many thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area
Thanks, that did the job! Also thanks @stephan for the advice. felix On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:53:54 PM UTC+2, BJ wrote: to include code (ie your script references etc) in the header section, put the code into a tiddler and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup. cheers BJ On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56:09 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote: Hi, I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code. the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script link href=css/my.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / ... any ideas how to solve it? many thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] The $maketid and $setfield widgets
Hi Matabele, just want to say thanks! Your plugin solved my problem that I had with the $newtiddler widget, where I had to predefine placeholders for fields in order to set them. Now I have all the flexibility I need, by being able to set placeholders/tags/fields. so thank you once more for your work ;) On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:01:10 AM UTC+2, Matabele wrote: Hi I have been working on a couple of widget plugins which address problems I was having when developing TW5 applications -- they may be found here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com The $setfield widget was my response to the need to initiate more than one function with one button. Starting out with a mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget, I developed a pair of complementary widgets that could be assembled in a stack around a button widget -- the title of the target widget being passed through the stack with an event parameter. The $maketid widget was my response to the spurious javascript errors I was experiencing with the $newtiddler widget. My efforts to address the error by modifying the $newtiddler widget failed, and I resorted to rewriting the widget by adopting the mechanism borrowed from the linkcatcher widget. This appears to have cured the bad behaviour of the $newtiddler widget, at least in the context in which I was experiencing problems. I have constructed the widgets in such a way that they may be used together in the same stack. Other widgets could be developed using the same mechanism which could then be added to the widget stack (the $fieldmangler and $linkcatcher widgets are partially compatible.) I would welcome any feedback with respect the concept of the widgets, and any ideas with respect modifying the code to broaden the context of their application. regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Hello, I am currently working on my master thesis and organize myself via TW5. TW5 is truly a great program and it really supports my workflow, however I have a little problem. *My problem:* Structuring new thoughts is always a difficult process and consequently, I often rename the titles of the tiddlers, because I feel that a title became inappropriate or contains an error. This usually breaks all my links that reference the topic with the changed title. Never changing a title after it has been introduced is not a suitable solution for me. Masking the referencing links as in [[masked title|orignal title] doesn't help, as it is cumbersome and does not solve the problem of the wrong original title. Another bad solution (wikipedia-style): Creating a new tiddler with the corrected title that transcludes the tiddler with the old title and link to the new tiddler from now on. *My solution so far:* My solution to the problem would be to create tiddlers with a unique ID field which can be referenced via [[ id ]] and translates to the title of the tiddler. the id is never changed and serves as a proxy (as in SQL automatically generated primary keys). For now, I create an ID-field with a custom newtiddler button that generates a unique key via Math.random().toString(36).substr(2, 9); and I reference a tiddler with this id via the following link $list filter=[field:id[qqu99yie1]!has[draft.of]] / As this link code is hard to write everytime I want a reference, I added a link-info-button into each tiddlers heading, that produces the link-code when I click it. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TTIl-wy39vw/U4s4s9PwVPI/AAo/m22BXPT1Q_I/s1600/Selection_144.png Now everytime a change to the tiddler's title occurs, I don't have to modify any references. *My question:* Could a mechanism like this be integrated into TW5? This means: 1) adding a unique id automatically to each new tiddler. 2) linking to an article via [[ id ]] which translates into its title. Or has this issue been solved otherwise? Maybe I am missing something... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Hi Danielo, thanks for your hint, I didn't know this syntax exists, I will certainly use it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Hi Stephan, I checked out your alias system, it's a nice way if I want to provide alternative names but this is not the case for me. I don't want to create tags that contain titles just because I changed the original title. Wikipedia uses aliases to redirect to changed titles, but I don't like this approach as this would mess up my wiki. Changing the referencing links first before changing a title is, as I said above, to cumbersome. ... Well, if there does not exist any integrated TW5-solution for proxy-references via ids, I guess I have to stick to my own solution. Maybe this feature is introduced in a future TW version, as I think it is quite useful and does not break any existing mechanism. On Sunday, June 1, 2014 10:53:34 PM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote: P.S. Maybe Aliases will help you? http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/ search for Aliases. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Well, I know linking via ids is not readable in edit mode, however in a
non-edit mode, the id translates to a name, so that is ok for me.
As for semantic-alias (i.e. a real second title) vs. ids, I rather chose
ids as their purpose is only to allow exact references. same as in SQL
autoincrement primary keys...
And I rather place them inside a field because I like them to be more
invisible as they have no semantic meaning.
However I took a closer look at you example in your space and it is a
really nice workaround you are using, I mean exploiting the masking-title
of the link as a variable to use it in a local macro.
This way I could do something like
{{ 415241 | id }}
and put the filter in the macro instead of directly writing
{{{ [field:id[]!has[draft.of]first[]] }}}
that will make a nice shortcut...
On Monday, June 2, 2014 3:30:38 PM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:
I can't see a fundamental difference between my alias approach and using
IDs. Except that ID's tend to be unreadable.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Hi Jeremy,
I don't want to abolish titles replacing them entirely with mere ids :)
I only want to link via ids so nothing breaks when I change any title.
Therefore I will use a field to store a tiddler's id.
Making use of Stephan's suggestion I can now write {{ qqu99yie1 | id }}. So
I am quite satisfied for now.
However, thanks for pointing out the option to use the link and the view
widget together to be able to chose an alternate name based on a
field-value, that might come one handy at one point.
By the way, is there any reason, why the tiddlers do not get a unique id on
creation time as a field value per default?
This would support people to create unbreakable references via ids, without
the previous effort to give each tiddler a unique id or creating a custom
button.
Regards
Felix
On Monday, June 2, 2014 5:02:33 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
This question of whether tiddlers should be identified by title or by an
abstract GUID is a perennial one.
My aim is that users should be able to use GUIDs for tiddler titles if it
suits their use case. The missing piece is a way of linking to a tiddler by
it's GUID/title, but having a specified field displayed as the text of the
link. Here's an example of a macro to do that:
\define link(guid)
$tiddler tiddler=$guid$$link$view field=name//$link/$tiddler
\end
This is a link by guid link qqu99yie1
Of course, it would be more useful if one could arrange for that macro to
be automatically substituted for links.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Felix Küppers felixk...@hotmail.de
javascript: wrote:
Well, I know linking via ids is not readable in edit mode, however in a
non-edit mode, the id translates to a name, so that is ok for me.
As for semantic-alias (i.e. a real second title) vs. ids, I rather chose
ids as their purpose is only to allow exact references. same as in SQL
autoincrement primary keys...
And I rather place them inside a field because I like them to be more
invisible as they have no semantic meaning.
However I took a closer look at you example in your space and it is a
really nice workaround you are using, I mean exploiting the masking-title
of the link as a variable to use it in a local macro.
This way I could do something like
{{ 415241 | id }}
and put the filter in the macro instead of directly writing
{{{ [field:id[]!has[draft.of]first[]] }}}
that will make a nice shortcut...
On Monday, June 2, 2014 3:30:38 PM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:
I can't see a fundamental difference between my alias approach and using
IDs. Except that ID's tend to be unreadable.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles
Hi Jeremy,
thank you for this clarification. I understand and support your deliberate
choice in this matter.
I am new to TW and my overall understanding is still developing :)
That said, I apologize for bothering you with my newbie-opinions or
questions, but from my understanding
it is possible to have more than one unique-field that identifies a
tiddler. Similar to SQL
where I can have several unique attributes in a table that each could be
used to identify a row.
If a new tiddler is created, the system only needs to ensure that the title
AND the id is unique.
From this point on, it is the decision of the user to reference the tiddler
by id or by title.
As written above, I have introduced this mechanism in my wiki and it works
well.
Providing a build-in alternative to a reference-by-title concept for those
who want it would be a nice
feature because links wouldn't break. Maybe it's not a common issue but I
found a threat on stackexchange
where a user had the same problem:
http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/22850/changing-the-name-of-a-tiddler-in-tiddlywiki-and-retain-the-references-pointing
In any case, I fully support your choice to use the title as unique
identifier and if TW internals
do not allow the introduction of such a parallel-concept then it is totally
fine. I think TW is
great and offers much flexibility either way!
So thank you for your work and your previous answers.
Greetings
Felix
On Monday, June 2, 2014 6:46:26 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Hi Felix
By the way, is there any reason, why the tiddlers do not get a unique id
on creation time as a field value per default?
This would support people to create unbreakable references via ids,
without the previous effort to give each tiddler a unique id or creating a
custom button.
That's the unavoidable, perennial question referred to above. A simple
formulation is: do we use the title field as the identifier for a tiddler
the title field, or do we use a separate ID field. The two options
can't co-exist, we need to choose one. TiddlyWiki chooses the former on the
basis that is a more human formulation, and that it can trivially emulate
the ID approach. But that is done by using the title field as an ID, not by
introducing a new ID field. The reason is because of the need to enforce
uniqueness: we guarantee the uniqueness of titles, but not of other fields.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
Regards
Felix
On Monday, June 2, 2014 5:02:33 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
This question of whether tiddlers should be identified by title or by an
abstract GUID is a perennial one.
My aim is that users should be able to use GUIDs for tiddler titles if
it suits their use case. The missing piece is a way of linking to a tiddler
by it's GUID/title, but having a specified field displayed as the text of
the link. Here's an example of a macro to do that:
\define link(guid)
$tiddler tiddler=$guid$$link$view field=name//$link/$
tiddler
\end
This is a link by guid link qqu99yie1
Of course, it would be more useful if one could arrange for that macro
to be automatically substituted for links.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Felix Küppers felixk...@hotmail.de
wrote:
Well, I know linking via ids is not readable in edit mode, however in a
non-edit mode, the id translates to a name, so that is ok for me.
As for semantic-alias (i.e. a real second title) vs. ids, I rather
chose ids as their purpose is only to allow exact references. same as in
SQL autoincrement primary keys...
And I rather place them inside a field because I like them to be more
invisible as they have no semantic meaning.
However I took a closer look at you example in your space and it is a
really nice workaround you are using, I mean exploiting the masking-title
of the link as a variable to use it in a local macro.
This way I could do something like
{{ 415241 | id }}
and put the filter in the macro instead of directly writing
{{{ [field:id[]!has[draft.of]first[]] }}}
that will make a nice shortcut...
On Monday, June 2, 2014 3:30:38 PM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:
I can't see a fundamental difference between my alias approach and
using IDs. Except that ID's tend to be unreadable.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] New introductory video
Hi Jeremy, I think your video has a *good structure*, *clear language* and *covers some important points*. Maybe I can provide some information on what convinced me six months ago to become a tiddlywikian. 1. It began when I started searching for a note-taking tool. 2. I *didn't want to install* a wiki or some application on my desktop. 3. The program should be *portable on a usb-stick*... but how can I open my notes on *different OS*? Do I have to take a copy of the database or do I need to transport an installer (similar to truecrypt volumes you want to open on another machine?) 4. The note-taking tool I wanted should provide mechanisms to link notes - but in an organized and fast way. 5. *TiddlyWiki was perfect because it solved the above by* 1. Using the Browser as Middleware. I can put it on a stick and open it at a friends pc! Since it's html it can be but online for others to read! great! 2. Using HTML to store notes. This *also* means that in emergency situations I can always open the html file and my data is human readable! *Also* I feel that I am in control of my data! 3. Using Javascript to provide the dynamics. 6. Also it provides plugins and has a vivid community! I know nothing in the area of personal note-taking that can be compared to this software. It is indeed a futuristic diary or note-taking tool! Maybe if another video is made at one point, it could complement the first video by showing TW in action. This means showing how open the html from an usb stick opening it doing some note-taking and closing it again. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
Hi, consider the following: *Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the value out \define getVariable(field) $transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ / \end getVariable ref the above works: it prints out, which is the field value of the field ref $edit-text tiddler=getVariable ref field=text type=text tag= input default=/$edit-text the above does NOT work: while writing text it prints the text into a tiddler named $transclude tiddler=test field=out /. it should print into a tiddler named out, which is the return value of getVariable as shown above. on the other hand this would work. \define getVariable() out \end $edit-text tiddler=getVariable field=text type=text tag=input default=/$edit-text *Concluding Question:* Why isn't the transclusion parsed when used as input for edit-text? What am I missing? Thanks Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
An addition: Tried the following with the same setup, it also does not work. It even screws the gui up (see screenshot). *Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the value out \define getVariable(field) $transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ / \end \define display(outTiddler) $edit-text tiddler=$outTiddler$ field=text type=text default=/$edit -text \end $macrocall $name=display outTiddler=getVariable ref / Screenshot https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WsUdpMAbYtY/VFailp0W8dI/ACM/UDrx-1xc-yc/s1600/Selection_355.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
Hi Jeremy,
that was an ultra quick response :) Thanks for clarifying this
Ok, I just read your remark on my pull request. This kind of implementation
would solve my issue i'm trying to solve here.
*Anyhow:* I was trying to solve the issue that if I have access to a
currentTiddler variable in the modal, (as proposed by my pull request),
how could I then access the variables of the underlying tiddler. Well, I
would need to combine the *title* and the *fieldname* of the tiddler and
return the transclude. But from your comment I conclude now: I can't :(
Or maybe with the set widget creating variables that are accessible in the
inner?
Just out of curiosity, is there no way this could be done?
Regards felix
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:29:34 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Hi Felix
Concluding Question: Why isn't the transclusion parsed when used as
input for edit-text?
Transcluded attributes on HTML elements or widgets are not wikified; the
attribute gets the raw value of the transclusion. This holds true for
transclusion of variables with `attribute=variable` and transclusion of
tiddler fields with `attribute={{title!!field}}`.
The reason is that wikification is relatively slow, and would complicate
the dependency tracking for the refresh mechanism. I think that most of the
time the wikification would not be what we want anyhow.
Can you outline the problem you're trying to tackle?
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Felix Küppers felixk...@hotmail.de
javascript: wrote:
Hi,
consider the following:
*Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the
value out
\define getVariable(field)
$transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ /
\end
getVariable ref
the above works: it prints out, which is the field value of the field
ref
$edit-text tiddler=getVariable ref field=text type=text tag=
input default=/$edit-text
the above does NOT work: while writing text it prints the text into a
tiddler named $transclude tiddler=test field=out /. it should print
into a tiddler named out, which is the return value of getVariable as
shown above.
on the other hand this would work.
\define getVariable()
out
\end
$edit-text tiddler=getVariable field=text type=text tag=input
default=/$edit-text
*Concluding Question:* Why isn't the transclusion parsed when used as
input for edit-text?
What am I missing?
Thanks
Felix
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Re: [tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
Just out of curiosity, is there no way this could be done? I mean: a edit-text reading its destination from a fieldvalue of the current tiddler. I love the API, but it sometimes hard to draw the line between what is possible and what is not in TW. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
Hi Stephan,
If jeremy accepts my pull request (which is based on this suggestion) you
will be able to specify and access variables in the modal passed by the
event mechanism.
See:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1045
In my *fork* I already tested this.
Example js invocation:
var skeletontiddler = $tw.wiki.getTiddler(template); // e.g. has
fields title, and subtitle
var dialogTiddler = new $tw.Tiddler(skeletontiddler, { afield : hey,
another : ho });
this.dispatchEvent({
type: tm-modal, param: dialogTiddler.fields
});
in your modal you can now access
title
subtitle
afield
another
with macro call just pass different variables
regards felix
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[tw] [TW5] truly a minor issue. adding tags via fieldmangler, button and action-sendmessage doesn't work
Just if anyone is interested. This works: $fieldmangler tiddler=currentTiddler $button class= message=tm-add-tag param=tagnameadd tag/$button /$fieldmangler This doesn't $fieldmangler tiddler=currentTiddler $button add tag $action-sendmessage $message=tm-add-tag param=tagname / /$button /$fieldmangler Maybe someone knows why? Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] truly a minor issue. adding tags via fieldmangler, button and action-sendmessage doesn't work
Oh, that's the mistake! I had already given up :) Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
Hi Danielo, thanks for your answer. I described my setup in the post above and also in the post below (see the screenshot). How would you do the following. (I understood Jeremy's answer as that it cannot be done, but maybe you have an idea). I want to create a tiddler that (1) contains an edit-text widget that is (2) reading its destination (the tiddler to which it prints the output) from a fieldvalue of the current tiddler. Referring to my screenshot: edit-text should write to a tiddler named out. On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:08:00 PM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: How are you calling your modals? I use modals for user input and creating new Tiddlers and it works nicely. For those things that I need the modal can access I use temporary tiddlers. Then I call the modal with some actions widgets that sets those temporary tiddlers to the values I want. Regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] edit text does not accept macro output when macro contains transclude?
- - - Oh lord. now I totally confused two topics that I'm currently
involved.
My original problem was that I cannot reference a *modals* field. simply
because it doesn't possess the fields.
So I wanted to refer to the original tiddler via currentTiddler.
Something like this:
\define merged()
currentTiddler!!ref
\end
$edit-text tiddler={{merged}} /
Obviously you and Danielo are right! I was thinking too much about modals
where tiddler={{!!ref}} doesn't work.
I guess this is not my day. Maybe I need some sleep.
Thanks for the support
Felix
On Monday, November 3, 2014 8:17:03 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Hi Felix
It's quite simple I'm afraid:
$edit-text tiddler={{!!myfield}}/
It uses a transcluded attribute. The transclusion is specified as a text
reference, in this case with the tiddler title omitted, which means that it
defaults to the current tiddler.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Felix Küppers felixk...@hotmail.de
javascript: wrote:
Hi Danielo,
thanks for your answer.
I described my setup in the post above and also in the post below (see
the screenshot).
How would you do the following. (I understood Jeremy's answer as that it
cannot be done, but maybe you have an idea).
I want to create a tiddler that
(1) contains an edit-text widget that is
(2) reading its destination (the tiddler to which it prints the output)
from a fieldvalue of the current tiddler.
Referring to my screenshot: edit-text should write to a tiddler named
out.
On Monday, November 3, 2014 7:08:00 PM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
How are you calling your modals?
I use modals for user input and creating new Tiddlers and it works
nicely.
For those things that I need the modal can access I use temporary
tiddlers. Then I call the modal with some actions widgets that sets those
temporary tiddlers to the values I want.
Regards.
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[tw] [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi @all, I created a short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing. So now everybody knows what I am working on and why I ask so many questions in the forum :) I described the plugin partly here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/hwtX59tKsIk/qAGRJxK9_iAJ Note, that I did not show all the features and and I discovered a small bug during the presentation but if you are interested in * mindmaps * ticket systems and * connecting tiddlers visually you maybe want to check it out. http://youtu.be/nq4UijNWvQA Have fun Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Yes. Which generator do you use? Due to conveniance reasons I use the mechanism by the library that I also use for drawing the network (vis.js). Seems like they took a very simple approach generating the uuids (see https://github.com/almende/vis/blob/master/lib/util.js#L65). I created a new issue-ticket by copy pasting your message. I will wait for their response. I also suggested them your method from http://chat-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#UUIDPlugin. Regards Felix https://github.com/almende/vis/blob/master/lib/util.js#L65 You can use this code if you want: http://chat-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#UUIDPlugin Its from here: http://www.broofa.com/2008/09/javascript-uuid-function/ testpage: http://www.broofa.com/Tools/Math.uuid.htm There has been a collision report with the Math.uuidCompact() which calls the random generator only once. The above code uses a different mechanism. Regarding your question about my github. I currently have two TW pull requests that I am waiting for to be accepted. 1) Allowing to specify a template in the context of the new-tiddler event https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1059 2) Giving users of modal a chance to reference the underlying tiddler https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1045 Because my code depends on that, I wanted to wait with the upload to my repository till I get some clarity about these requests. I see. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Thx @Stephan and @Alex, feels good to get positive vibes :) Because my TW API differs, I will wait what Jeremy says about my pull requests before I publish the beta. But really nice to know that some people want to give it a try :) Its not done yet and I haven't shown everything. Also what's really nice is that you can right click on the canvas and can immediately save its current state as png. Jeremy also already implemented code for the next release that helps me too hook into the search mechanism. that way I can make it possible to only display searched tiddlers and their neighbours on the canvas. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi Ed Love it! I am curious why D3 which is already available in TW5 didn't fit the bill? Thank you very much :) I looked at several systems that are especially network oriented and thus provide more features than libraries that have a broader approach like D3. D3 is super awesome, I know, but the setup cost would have been too high. I compared http://visjs.org vs http://sigmajs.org/ vs http://cytoscape.github.io/cytoscape.js/ and vis.js won my comparison, altough cytoscape is crazy. IMHO this would be a game changer if the relationships could be generated through the already existing tagging system and allow to open the related tiddlers when clicked. Building a graphical representation of existing content in the wiki. Awesome work regardless, congrats! These days I will create a dropdown in the controls above the graph that allows you to display only tiddlers that possess a certain tag and their direct relations. I also want to allow a filter expression for that. Is that what you meant? Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi Hans, Very nice! This appears to go quite a way towards replacing several of the functions of TheBrain that I still depend on. It might also reduce my use of Microsoft's Project software Yes, its great for organizing. As for me, I program this plugin to be better organized with my master thesis :) Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Merci beaucoup :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi Danielo, really warm words, thank you Danielo! *Your question about Cytoscape:* Yes its great I admit it, but I had to make a choice. After comparing the APIs, I felt It doesn't focus on graph-manipulation at runtime by the enduser (vis.js does this out of the box). vis.js has many modes for calculating the motion of the graph when beeing dragged, you can specify gravity and all the physics - cytoscape doesn't have this. Also I liked that vis.js allows dot and json notation to describe the graph (which is not really relevant here). Cytoscape allows stuff like shortest path calculation and all that (which is also not really relevant here). Both are great... as I said I had to make a choice and in the end vis.js appeared more useful. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Ok, I have to trust you since I did not make any comparison. What I don like about vis.js is one of the things you consider a feature, the physics. I hate them. I want to place elements whatever I want, not where physics allows me. Will you give the option to deactivate them? I would like to see something like this: http://jsbin.com/gist/621d51ea7de19608127e?js,output Very good point. I just implemented this. Also I expose all options of vis.js in a tiddler so they can be changed. All power to the user, right? :) vis.js calculates the graph in the background and then gives the API user a chance to disable the physics. It all works exactly as in the example you linked. Technical stuff see here: https://github.com/almende/vis/issues/161 Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi Jeremy, your congratulations mean much to me, thank you. There is a lot more to come, I will post this in a second video soon. Then I will do some code-cleanup and hopefully I can upload my code next week. While I currently have two pull requests going, I absolutely depend on the modal patch. If you could take a look at it (the modal pull request) or tell me what else I need to fix to get it accepted, it would be great. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi guys, just did another video to complete the previous. http://youtu.be/0QFE54HAzH0 Don't worry, I'm not spamming the forum with videos, I just wanted to give a first impression. Hope you like the new features. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Danielo, thanks :) At the moment the menu is always on top, above the graph. but you can hide it. Also if you save the canvas as png it will be hidden. I still have to work on the static-graph mode (which was your idea). it has a little bug. I try my best to publish everything next week at some point. Regards Felix On Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:09:51 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Absolutely awesome. I cant want to try IT out !! The menú is with left or right click ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
You mean that you can create many different mindmap-instances and store them in separate tiddlers as adjustable-images? This is truly a great idea for a feature Danielo! I want it too :) I hope you understand that at the moment, I cannot implement everything. It took me already two weeks to build this plugin and I am short of time. But I will put it on my todo list, ok? - might take a while though. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Ok Danielo, you will love this: I just implemented your idea and its so cool man. http://youtu.be/8kk2FRIyf3o Until later :) Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
ok the video didn't work. I will upload it again when I am back from sports. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Sorry, I am back from sports now. The hype is justified :) It is cool, big promise: http://youtu.be/Z-pQ59f7zCc Regards felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
By the way. The philosophy here is that a snapshot will be a clone of the current filter used in the editor. So say you want to create a mindmap or graph exclusively for a group of tiddlers, then you would actually 1. create a group and call it graph xy and 2. then begin to tag tiddlers with graph xy so they are displayed in the graph 3. and then create relationships Note: the relationships are also displayed in other snapshots which share the same tiddlers (see minute 2:50 the edge is displayed in to snapshots embedded in the tiddlers you will like this and New Tiddler because both share the same tiddlers). if you don't want that, create tiddlers that are exclusive to a tag group. Also note: all manipulation of snapshots is done in the main window. I tried to cover all aspects with my plugin while keeping things easy :) Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
an addition to the workflow described in my previous post (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Nj885Ia8kGA/RKRlL9id9JQJ) because in my video (http://youtu.be/Z-pQ59f7zCc), i didn't really show a real workflow, this is how you would do it https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YX7hlWGoOJA/VF_PUWnEpVI/ACg/ZMREjITG4RM/s1600/Selection_360.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button
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[tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Here is a working demo: http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/ Scroll down to see two examples. The network works really smooth in Chrome. Firefox sometimes interrupts the motion of the graph if many nodes are display. Hope you like it :) Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi Stephan, This is what I noticed: When I add a new node and change its name, it hops away and I need to find it in the graph. Yes, I know. This will be fixed. Also, each view/graph will save the coordinates of the nodes it contains. At the moment everything changes after a repaint(). We have several hosts which interconnects. My idea is to have nodes for each computer. Each computer has one or more applications. Each application has some configuration files and in each file there is a configuration value which would point to another computer. I'd love to visualize this somehow, so that I could see the network of connections and being able to pinpoint the configuration endpoints of each connection. Well, you can represent everything that has a graph structure and you are able to create your own relationship types. In addition, i will soon enable a feature that you can store a http:// (or any other protocol) link in a node, so when you click on a title you switch to a desired webpage. Maybe this is what you want? Then you can connect wikis with permalinks and bridge the networks encapsulated in several independent wikis. Regards Felix Do you think this is feasible with your plugin? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi Daniel, thanks for the feedback. I think you might need to eat scroll events after your map sees them, when I scroll vertically on a map (using two-finger-scroll on my Mac trackpad), it zooms the map, but also scrolls the column of tiddlers. I have no touchpad but as soon as I get my hands on one, I will try to verify that and change the code. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi PMario, thanks. The link will follow this week. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hola Danielo, Thank you very much for this. I did not play enough with your plugin yet. I love the snapshot function. Thanks! As usual, I have a couple of suggestions: ...I expected it :) 1. As daniel said, the zoom thing is a problem. I used to scroll the page with the mouse in the middle, so wen I reach plugin window I start to zoom out until I realize what am I doing. I would prefer to use zoom buttons. May this can be an option? yes, I agree. 1. Could you please provide the hability to use caption or subtitle fields for the displayed name in the graph? This have many uses like giving short names to long title tiddlers and having tiddlers that I want to hide from the normal search with $:/ . This is very useful if you want to use your plugin just for creating graphs and you don't want to full your tiddler naming space with empty tiddlers. yes, I could make it possible to let the node title be read from a caption field. If it doesn't exist, I will use the Title as fallback. However it is not possible to give nodes different names in different views. that would be too complex to manage and to trace updates. regards felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Thanks ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi Alex Could each edge be a tiddler? The type of edge could be depends on etc. but the tiddler itself would detail the complexities of that dependancy. In a complex system the interweaving of dependancies is a key aspect - one which mind mapping software does not cater for. Because I am a huge fan of the semantic web, ontologies and rdf triples (where edges may be literals or nodes) I thought about it for a long time at the beginning. I decided to reject the idea and to store all edges of the same kind in a single tiddler to allow quick parsing and make it possible to rename all edges by simply renaming the tiddler. (try it by clicking on an edge, renaming the edgeStore and restart). I thought nobody would even care describing relations. Its the same case with tags in tiddlywiki. you don't bother to describe tags. It would add an extra level of complexity and I already implemented the other way. But I serously consider your input and I may change it in the future after I am done with the basics and have more time. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
You should also update the vis.js library, to the latest version, which has proper lizensing for TW plugins :) There should be no conflicts anymore :) Oh, thanks for paving the way :) Never thought about licensing issues. I blushed a bit when you were speaking so positively about my plugin in your last post at vis :) Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi Tobias thanks for the feedback one bug I noticed when deleting anything I get an *Internal Javascript Error: undefined is not a function*... in Chrome. this is on purpose to scare people off that want to delete their nodes. seriously: yeah I will fix that :) Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Tobias, thanks for the input. Let me answer some points because I think there is a misunderstanding here. In general: You have to think of nodes like tiddlers and views like tw-filters. It is almost exactly the same. To me, a graph displays relations between tiddlers and the overhead of having to use dedicated tags to relate tiddlers to a given view seems redundant, to some extend bloating a tiddlers metadata. No metadata at all is stored in any tiddler. Edges are stored in dedicated json-stores for each edge-type and views are merely filters that select all tiddlers that match them. A view here is the exact same thing as a view in SQL or a TW-Filter: it is a precalculated select statement. At the moment, only tags are possible as filter, but I will add more ways to filter the graph. Everytime you create a clone of a view it is a clone of the current filter used. So, my train of thought is... Why not keep those graph views as a self-contained entities that are independent from the tiddlers they represent, in terms of constraint requirements? Yes. This is already the way it works. Imagine a view as a tw-filter which will select the nodes it will contain. No tiddlers are actually linked to a view. They just match a pattern that is specified by a view. While being able to filter a view based on tags sure is a great feature, I would say that to actually model a view should not (necessarily) depend on a given tag-filter constraint. Why? Because, at some point you eventually may want a whole range of constraints, e.g. field constraints with tiddlers having field x of value y or some value = z, etc... or a modified date dadada. Makes sense? Yes. I totally agree and you will be able to do that. If you open the debug console of your browser and search the through the debug output you will see a line that says new filter string to accept or reject graph-nodes: [!is[system]!tag[tiddler-relation]tag[todo]!has[draft.of]. It is only at the moment, that the GUI is not done and every view filters by tags. *But theoretically I could also provide a textfield where you can manually enter a tw-filter.* Perhaps it's a question of how the workflow of modeling a graph is envisioned. For me it's this: - define view (name ...may at some point even require an additional category(tag) ) - add / create nodes (easily select existing tids) - add / define edges So, these questions may be interesting to perhaps (re)consider... - What defines the set of nodes that are represented in a graph? In its core: a tw-filter, as complex as you want it to be. - Are edges part of a dedicated view? no edges exist between nodes and are only shown if the view permits it. that means: when nodes match the filter or when not filtered by a special edge-filter. - In other words, do I want all edges in a view, just because some (tag)filter expression says the corresponding tiddlers match? You can create use an edge filter that is also stored by each view. Its visible in the gui but not working yet. - Or: How could I make differentent kinds of edges appear in different views with the same tiddlers? edge filter will be implemented next time :) Right now, I guess, it is all set up such that the nodes and actions are global, i.e. all views share the same underlying node-tree. No they don't. They just pick the nodes (tiddlers) they want to based on their filter. Hope that helped. Please wait with in depth discussions when I published the code. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] If any one is still online. Here is a Beta to play with (for drawing mindmaps and graphs)
Hi Danielo, *please wait till friday (or saturday)* for downloading. then it will all be bundled and put on github. At the moment the css and the vis library are not included as shadow tiddlers. (plus there are many bugs in the online version). Its just there for giving you a very simple idea. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Tobias I appreciate your thoughts. but it is not possible to change the underlying paradigm i am afraid. I just want to explain how it can easily be done with the functions I will provide. Consider your example: For example, let's say I have the tids... - Mum - Dad - Kiddo I may want one *graph* for general relationships showing... Mum = parent of = Kiddo Dad = parent of = Kiddo Mum = married to = Dad (btw. can an edge be bidirectional?) you create a view *(a node view) *which *filters all tiddlers tagged with family* and other filter components may be possible. additionally you will be able to* select all the edgetypes via checkboxes in the menubar you want to be displayed: parent of and married to (this is an edge view)* ...and another more task oriented *graph* that shows... Dad = brings to school = Kiddo Mum = brings to bed = Kiddo Dad = brings flowers for = Mum you create a view *(a node view) *which *filters all tiddlers tagged with family* and other filter components may be possible. Additionally you will be able to *select all the edgetypes via checkboxes in the menubar you want to be displayed*: brings to school and brings flowers for *(this is an edge view)* So it can be done, this is most important. Also this is the most convenient way for me to handle it in the code because it is all based on filters. In a DB you also operate on the same dataset only with different views. Because also in a SQL-DB you only get results via select statements which are views and the underlying pool of records is the same for all views (analog: no nodes belong exclusively to a graph). *Otherwise it would be a whole different paradigm that doesn't go well with the view idea.* The paradigm I follow is: if you want different results, you need different selects (=filters, views). However there will be at one point the possibility to add single nodes to a view, which works in the backend like this: filter:title[nodename] and may be represented on a gui level via checkboxes. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:00:04 AM UTC+1, James wrote: Hi Felix, This is really cool! How could I get it? Hi James. Thanks. Not yet, please wait till the end of the week. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Mario, Make *your core thing *work. Extensions can be made later. yes, I will do that! :) I hope it's all done by the weekend. I already locked my room and deliberately isolated myself from all my friends and family to finalize the plugin code ;) Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] tm-new-tiddler
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This is just crazy! :) I never thought about that
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Tobias, Thanks for taking the time to explain your concept in detail, much appreciated! No Problem, I even had similar thoughts when I designed the plugin two few weeks ago. But I had to stick to a design choice eventually. Everything has pros and cons as Mario already put it. It all sounds very reasonable, especially that... - it's entirely possible to (later) add individual tiddlers to a filter expression in order to define a view Yes, I will make sure you will get the chance. But at the moment I am foremost struggling with getting the first version published :) - one will be able to classify / select edge-types and thus model different representations on the same set of tiddlers, thus different graphs Yes, correct. eventually it is the same thing you are trying to achieve just with different means. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] set widget is over used while variable feature is rarely used.
Great info danielo! Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Tobias, just wanted to tell you that I thought about your remarks and I finally made a choice to allow binding edges exclusively to views. In contrast to nodes, which are regarded as universally unique subjects, which cannot exist twice, a new edge can now be decided to be a non-exclusive edge (displayed in every graph/view) or to be an exlusive-edge, displayed only in a certain view. That gives you all the freedom to create graphs/views with exclusive/private edges or to use global edges. Additionally, each view allows you with its filter (edge filter) to further filter edges you want to display. See screenshot for the creating-edge-dialog. Felix https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-poa9UkL3KV4/VG3AhdLxY6I/AC0/SRFSLb7VRKI/s1600/Selection_364.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
*graph,* *kraph*, *graf, *or *kraf* (k=küppers, f=felix ;-) kraf :) great metamorphosis of the word graph! ...but doesn't it sound kinda stereotypic, I mean a german (we are often called krauts) created a tool called kraf :) One more thing, it's probably a small thing for you but a big step for humanity, being able to create a tiddler for a view in which one can put some info about what we're seeing in the graph, which perhaps also provides a button to open the graph-viewer with the corresponding view. I put it on my list. Maybe not inside a node but I think I can allow a view to have a description or title that is displayed above and also a small button that contains a reference to edit the view. By the way I created a remember choice button (screenshot) so when you are working on a view/graph with only isolated edges you do not have to select your view all the time. Regards Felix https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--q0h7i0YM2o/VG35M6dDUoI/ADE/IW3f48J_5dc/s1600/Selection_367.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Danielo, I have problems with the graph being properly displayed at the moment (the nodes overlap at the beginning in the center) but you can see a demo here http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/ Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Another short video of my plugin. showing the filter mechanism
Hi Mario, I can create a default for the edgetype but I can never remove the dialog as you then have no other possibility to change the edgetype.. Regards Felix On Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:46:20 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote: On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:23:52 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote: By the way I created a remember choice button (screenshot) so when you are working on a view/graph with only isolated edges you do not have to select your view all the time. It would be nice, to have a default setting for the edge type, so it would remove the dialog, needed to specify the edge, and make the workflow faster. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi folks, after almost a month of intensive coding the code is online and the plugins are bundled. The demo url is now: http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/ (demo updates on every commit; the demo is also found on github) I am sorry to tell you that no real documentation exists at the moment (and no screenshots). Any help is appreciated. Please have a look at the *roadmap tiddler* to get an idea of what tw-taskgraph is capable of (especially 0.5.0 brings many improvements). I also try to make a video of 0.5.0 You can also go to github and checkout the code (for example have a look at adapter.js which is used as layer between taskgraph and tw; or taskgraph_graph.js which is the widget used to draw and manage the graph). Some issues that I could not solve yet: https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/1 https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-vis/issues/2 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1109 Have fun! Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo, yes they do. At least on a desktop. I never tried on a mobile device yet. The graphs in the tiddlers are not editable. you need to switch to the editor. Fellix Am Freitag, 21. November 2014 20:19:53 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez: Before commenting more further, does the edit controls on the task graph works? I tried I'm trying on my mobile and they did not work. Regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo, yes they do. At least on a desktop. I never tried on a mobile device yet. The graphs in the tiddlers are not editable. you need to switch to the editor. Ok I checked it now. On smartphnes there is a problem with the page resize mechanism I am using. The editor does not resize properly on smartphones. I will fix that at some point. Until then, please try the demo on a desktop as smartphones are not supported at the moment. :D Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo! I KNEW IT :) I expected that somebody would come and say that. So I created an option (see tw option tiddler) in which you can specify which field you want to use as id. You can also use the title as id or a field called danielo. If no value is found in that field, a random number is inserted. Hope that helps. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
If I move the whole graph and then move a node the graph is centred again. So the program works against the user :/ IMO there is no notification needed for: positions stored and graph centred message. https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/2 Yes I have to change that. The idea was if you drag a node in the widget mode far to the outside, then it tries to fit in the viewport again. But this is not intuitive and I will remove that behaviour. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hello Jeremy, Congratulations, great to see the plugin out, and it looks good. :) yay! I also used your buttons in the actions menu as the meanings are the same (helps the user to quickly grasp the meaning). I think the symbolic semantics should be consistent and only if no icon exist to convey a meaning or if meanings differ, one should create a new one. Hope that is ok with you. I'm sorry not to have responded yet to the coding issues you raised; I'll be on those over the weekend. I absolutely respect your choice on how to spend your limited time. I just would be very glad to have the one issue with inverted tags solved before 5.1.5 release. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Servus Mario, Both your issues are fixed now: https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/2 https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/3 Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button
Hi Jeremy, not sure if this was asked before, but could you name the exported tiddler according to the tiddlersname (minus slashes and all these symbols that would cause conflicts with the os pathname). Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button
Hi Danielo, I think is not possible because browser limitations. Maybe I'm wrong and it is possible. Hmm, it should be possible because at one point the download is named tiddler.tid. https: //github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/wiki/macros/export.tid reads the filename from a field called filename... Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button
https:// github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/wiki/macros/export.tid Ok I guess I misinterpreted the file but at some point it is decided how to name the download -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
I find too complicated to link two tiddlers. I second that. The command popup at one tiddler should directly provide the ability to select the target or source tiddler of the edge to link to, i.e. filter all tiddlers, click, done. Best wishes, Tobias. Ah ok now I get what Danielo meant. Yes this should be possible. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo, I'm playing around with your plugin on my desktop, so expect a couple of posts here making questions and proposals. ok, I try to collect them Regarding linking tiddlers, I saw that you can link tiddlers very easy on the thasgrap editor. Very cool,fast and easy. Why not add that easiness to other feature within the same editor? When I'm editing a graph I want to focus on that graph, so if I add a new node I just expect a popup asking for the name an that's all. But instead of this I have to navigate to a new tiddler and put the name there. I thought it would be convenient to open the newly created tiddler in edit mode ready to receive some information. This is how I use the plugin... Otherwise you would have to doubleclick on a tiddler and open it in edit mode after having created it. But maybe your idea is better. Regarding the UI, seems your plugin is totally focalized to a single workflow: having the editor on the sidebar and the tiddlers on the river. My screen is narrow (11) so I prefer to work with your plugin on full screen. Opening the editor plugin is a pain because the problem I explained about adding new nodes. Also the editor looks horrible if you expand the story river. I love your plugin, but this makes the usability very hard to me. I would like to focus on each thing, first editing the map, and then add rich information to the tiddlers. Did I forgot to mention it? Sorry. You just have to set editor=true on a widget to display the editor but the view cannot be changed as it is bound by attribute to a given view. so something like this: $taskgraph mode=graph height=YOUR SIZEpx editor=true view=DANIELOS VIEWNAME/$taskgraph I should also make sure the selectbox doesn't give you the options to change the view as it is simply ignored when a graph is bound to a view.. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
For every request it would be great if you could file an issue with a small message at github. That way I can organize them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hola Maybe an option? I think the best way is to pass to the widget a parameter like: navigate=false. Yes an option (but not via attribute, I will create an option tiddler where you have a gui to set options. it will be with ckeckboxes like the dropdown to hide edges) I think you forgot to mention that, yes. It's cool, really cool. Sorry I sometimes forget what I documented/posted and what not... I think your plugin has a problem with calculating its correct size. If I have the editor on a plugin, and then I expand the view to full screen look what happen: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WQmw1OaVFmg/VHC5AJPS0JI/LmM/VqfKZ68xK1s/s1600/Captura%2Bde%2Bpantalla%2B2014-11-22%2Ba%2Bla%28s%29%2B17.21.56.png Can you see the problem? the graph looks horrible. This is corrected if I edit the tiddler while the river is expanded. Look at the difference: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o7ama_gJO58/VHC5Xg8VQTI/LmU/jM_7oL0vtGM/s1600/Captura%2Bde%2Bpantalla%2B2014-11-22%2Ba%2Bla%28s%29%2B17.26.42.png Sorry for not opening a Github issue for this, but I wanted to show you the pictures. I know already. this will be fixed. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo, Did you noticed that is not possible to add fields? Hmm, it works fine for me. I mean, in the end, everything I create is a tiddler and my plugin does not prevent you from entering more fields. By the way. I frequently update the plugin at the moment. So for new features or bugfixes use the plugin provided at github or dragdrop it from the demo site. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Tobias Maybe this is already recorded on github, but... the inability to type on the tag field of the taskgraph is intended? Nope I am trying hard to solve that. Its on github already. Also, take a look on how looks like your plugin imported into my personal wiki: Notice those blue arrows? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_ws5GR2mVM/VHLioWIdfAI/Lmk/irj7-EDbKJ4/s1600/taskgraph.PNG I still did not find the time to look at the different browsers yet. Good that you paste screenshots.Would be great if you could just open an issue for these things, A one-liner as message or a screenshot is enough. Thanks for reporting Regards Felix El domingo, 23 de noviembre de 2014 17:46:58 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez escribió: Hello Félix I was trying on the online version. Now is working. Maybe is a problem on my Mac, on my mobile it's working. I'll check it out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:04:01 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Dam! Do you know what can be causing this? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6VM1Dsm-PtE/VHLmC4UZPcI/Lmw/wuLPFXrI-M4/s1600/error.PNG That was a tiddler with this content $taskgraph mode=graph height=300px view=tables editor=true/$taskgraph It was working normally. Then I edited it to make it bigger and when I saved I got this error. Now I'm getting this error all the times I try to create the tiddler with that view. Hmm yes, I see it looks like it tries to insert the graph many times not overriding the parent domnode but appending a new one. I have not had this error myself. Might be connected with the browsers we are using. but I will think about it. Please be patient :) Please just file an issue at github with a small message, your browser version and maybe copy the console debug you get in firebug. when debug is enabled. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
I will try to make most of the options available from the menubar above the graph. So you can set options for every graph independently. Takes time though. Please be patient. :) On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:46:32 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Hello Felix, I find the tiddler $:/plugins/felixhayashi/taskgraph/options/vis very interesting. Specially the configurePhysics option. I find it too detailed If I specify it to true, but I want to be able to specify those values at some point. It is a very cool control panel. I specially like the ability to specify the hierarchical view. I did not find any place to specify options via GUI. There is no such place right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Yes, I agree with Tobias. On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:52:00 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Well, you'd have to have individual tiddlers for that in your Wiki anyhow, no? - [[Transactions.ID]] - [[Sales.ID]] - [[Sales.Transaction_ID]] Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Hi Danielo One question: Is possible to make a node appear twice? Maybe allowing more than one ID. This could be useful to me because I'm creating a schema of my company DB, and there are a lot of properties with the same name. Having tables linked with properties that does not actually link them seems incorrect to me. Well, it is not possible to have a two nodes with different names representing the same tiddler. This would destroy my architecture. The philosophy is: A node is a unique entity representing a tiddler. Otherwise I would not know how to store the node or which caption to use in which context or how to handle cases when the title itself is the id. It would make the whole thing much more complicated than how it is already at the moment :) But anyhow, if you are talking about the same id in your relational db model, then link from the same id. if it is another id (another table's id) then you should create a new node table2.id and link from there. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Thinking about this I think the caption thing could be the solution. Then you can name the property with the name of the table also and specify just the property name on the caption. The only thing I can think of is to let you specify an alias for a node that is stored only in the view (graph). It could not be stored in the tiddler because the tiddler could be used in many graphs. Is this what you meant? Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Taskgraph BETA is out on github and nightly demo is available
Ah danielo. You cannot clone tiddlers! Did you do that? Because the id is then dublicated. Felix On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:04:01 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: Dam! Do you know what can be causing this? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6VM1Dsm-PtE/VHLmC4UZPcI/Lmw/wuLPFXrI-M4/s1600/error.PNG That was a tiddler with this content $taskgraph mode=graph height=300px view=tables editor=true/$taskgraph It was working normally. Then I edited it to make it bigger and when I saved I got this error. Now I'm getting this error all the times I try to create the tiddler with that view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
When you start searching it will show you your searched tiddlers and their neighbours: http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/ try searching for bread or tgm WARNING CODE IS NOT DONE YET. THIS IS JUST A SWEET DEMO :) Hope you like it Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
Hola amigo This is awesome!! Very useful, powerful... and a lot of full. Yay! How can apply this to a single view? It will make it one of the best tools to visualize data and see relations between them. Good idea, I am working on it! ;) BTW did you see my pull request? I'm not asking you to merge it, is just to know if you consider it. Ah no I didn't see it. Please write @felixhayashi so I get informed next time. Regards Felipe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button
The feature to export tiddlers is such a relieve! I am happy it exists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
Thanks Ton, yes that's right. Positions are not stored in this dynamic search scenario. The point is storing positions would create a mess when you change your search term and the node position is not the best anymore. Also at the moment I do a full graph refresh on every keypress. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
Here you have an example to show you that I'm taking seriously your plugin. Nice thanks for sharing, danielo I will look at your other pull requests to once I have the time. Its great that you paste screenshots, it gives me sense how you use it. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
Hi @Tobi @Mario, thanks guys. Still, it's really not done yet. I need to color the tiddlers that represent the search result red (or some other color). And do some optimization. There are also many features in the background that I haven't documented yet. I think I also need a feature moratorium :) Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?
Hi, Stephen, I posted this somewhere else, but this is how I decided to use tw. 1. It began when I started searching for a note-taking tool. 2. I *didn't want to install* a wiki or some application on my desktop. 3. The program should be *portable on a usb-stick*... but how can I open my notes on *different OS*? Do I have to take a copy of the database or do I need to transport an installer (similar to truecrypt volumes you want to open on another machine?) 4. The note-taking tool I wanted should provide mechanisms to link notes - but in an organized and fast way. 5. *TiddlyWiki was perfect because it solved the above by* 1. Using the Browser as Middleware. I can put it on a stick and open it at a friends pc! Since it's html it can be but online for others to read! great! 2. Using HTML to store notes. This *also* means that in emergency situations I can always open the html file and my data is human readable! *Also* I feel that I am in control of my data! 3. Using Javascript to provide the dynamics. 6. Also it provides plugins and has a vivid community! I know nothing in the area of personal note-taking that can be compared to this software. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out
What does the view shows exactly? The matched tiddler and its relations or only the matched tiddlers? If it is the first thing maybe you should give a different color to the matched tiddler. Hi Danielo, yes, this is what I meant in my post above -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: * Some perspecitve on TW in the world
Great Job Mat for this overview. I think we need to really focus on third party channels to interest new users that never heard of tw. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TiddlyDrive - Google Drive as store for tiddlywiki community documentation.
Hi Danielo, great idea man. Using google drive as webspace for tiddlers and making the accessible via ajax is such a cool idea! Really smooth design for upload and download with the cloud icon. great! I have a suggestion: The problem is, it is difficult to download tiddlers you created because you will certainly forget the titles. Maybe you could introduce a convention like this: 1. a user enters his/her email adress at some point 2. once the user did so, you send an ajax request to the directory /email/.tiddlers in google drive. 3. the file contains the names of all tiddlers the user created and uploaded in json 4. everytime a user uploades a file, you also update /email/.tiddlers. 5. this way the user can immediately recreate his/her environment. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyDrive - Google Drive as store for tiddlywiki community documentation.
Hi Danielo Maybe I express myself wit too much enthusiasm. This is really just a misunderstanding. Don't let yourself down, you did a nice job building such a prototype! Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TiddlyDrive - Google Drive as store for tiddlywiki community documentation.
Hi Danielo, the links all give a 404. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] A short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing
Hi Mario,
Yes. Which generator do you use?
now yours :)
/**
* An adopted version of pmario's version to create UUIDs.
*
* Shortened version pmario (1.0 - 2011.05.22):
* http://chat-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#UUIDPlugin
*
* Original verison:
* Math.uuid.js (v1.4)
* http://www.broofa.com
* mailto:rob...@broofa.com
*
* Copyright (c) 2010 Robert Kieffer
* Dual licensed under the MIT and GPL licenses.
*/
util.genuuid = (function() {
// Private array of chars to use
var CHARS =
'0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz'.split('');
return function () {
var chars = CHARS, uuid = new Array(36);
var rnd=0, r;
for (var i = 0; i 36; i++) {
if (i==8 || i==13 || i==18 || i==23) {
uuid[i] = '-';
} else if (i==14) {
uuid[i] = '4';
} else {
if (rnd = 0x02) rnd = 0x200 + (Math.random()*0x100)|0;
r = rnd 0xf;
rnd = rnd 4;
uuid[i] = chars[(i == 19) ? (r 0x3) | 0x8 : r];
}
} // else
return uuid.join('');
};
})();
Taskgraph is under heavy development at the moment and I felt this is the
right time to switch.
If you have any improvements on your uuid code, please let me know :)
Felix
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[tw] Re: TiddlyDrive4Community new sidebar tools.
Hi Danielo, Once I am not so busy anymore I will have a good look at it :) Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Highlight results of search term?
Hi Jon, Danielo wrote a great plugin that shows you the context of the search term occurence. Just look for context search. The search is normally used in advanced search mode but I think with Jeremies changes in 5.1.5 you can also make it your default search visualizer. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TW5 What is the meaning of foo, bar, baz?
Hi Birthe, it's just a convention to use these words as meaningless placeholders. This way people (mostly programmers) quickly understand that this is an example. Regards Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] Markdown as default for New Tiddler
Yes, good idea! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW
@David - Just wanted to say, I really like your text (and the word styling of the words links and tags is also a great idea). Its clean and simple, yet creates interest. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Downloading the Empty.html
I totally agree. The empty downloaded wiki should not be named randomly. I often searched for the download in my folders as I couldn't remember how it was named. When I started using TW, it also caused some irritation to me as a file like MMOFOzUq.html looks like an *error*. Felix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: $100 COMPETITION! - Make a poster for TW
Hi WiM, this is really a cool picture! Under which license did you publish it? Would you mind granting me the rights to use it as it I want to use it for my tw-taskgraph plugin :) Your graphical elements really look like the nodes in taskgraph. See the demo here: http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/ Felix Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2014 07:25:47 UTC+1 schrieb wimm: This is my attempt WiM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
