[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-28 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
El jueves, 27 de agosto de 2015, 10:29:00 (UTC+2), D John escribió: Do you mind if I clarify my concerns ? In order to clarify your concerns fully. Could you explain me what kind of arbitrary code do you want to run? An a small example would definitively help to understand. -- You

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-28 Thread D John
You learnt it in one year and found it is easy? Awesome. Good for You. Now move along with it please.. This is *plain Old English* !! Yet you don't seem to be intelligent enough to understand that. All you need to understand is that your help is unsolicited. -- Rainbow പട്ടി

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-28 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 9:14:50 AM UTC-7, D John wrote: You learnt it in one year and found it is easy? Awesome. Good for You. Now move along with it please.. This is *plain Old English* !! Yet you don't seem to be intelligent enough to understand that. All you need to

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-28 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Are you talking with me? If so I think you are the kind of person than can only do damage to any kind of project. We don't need your help neither. And as long as you are not smart enough to understand tiddlywiky I think I can use a similar sentence that the one you have thrown to me: no one

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
El miércoles, 26 de agosto de 2015, 8:26:08 (UTC+2), D John escribió: But tiddly on iOS is a greater idea. It is a lot of fun for programmers to RTFM and learn a new scripting language subset. [...] From a content creator's perspective, it is a handicap Tiddlywiki cannot run Plain old

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-27 Thread D John
Dude, Calm down. I was not bashing Tiddlywiki. And I still don't see the non-sense situation you saw. Not being able to run plain JS is a handicap. Having to learn a new language subset is good only for programmers who want brag about learning it in no time. Not for me. See the difference ?

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Just to clarify some of the background to TiddlyWiki's approach to JavaScript, the DOM etc. The way that TiddlyWiki works is very simple: it is a pipeline for processing wikitext into the DOM, and from there into static HTML. That's the single process at the heat of all the complexity one sees

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-26 Thread D John
The question was not a rhetoric. It was intended to make Tiddlywiki better than Filemaker and vice versa. Ecosystems improve only when there is competition. Otherwise they just keep advertising and believing they are 'awesomer' than other 'awesomes' in other.. Well. Ecosystems.. Filemaker

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-26 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
Your app would be deployed under iOS in the same way as any other app. I've never submitted one myself but apple say There are no hosting fees and Apple handles all payment processing. You receive 70% of sales revenue. (https://developer.apple.com/programs/). The process would be similar to

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-26 Thread D John
Like mentioned earlier, selling the Missing manual for tiddlywiki on iOS will help to 1. Show what can be done with Tiddlywiki. 2. show how to make interactive multimedia apps with Tiddlypip 3. It will help the developers earn money. I will gladly buy it using an iTunes card. 4. It will help us

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-25 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
I think the idea is for the Tiddlywiki manual to be given away for free. Jeremy seems to think that it will be fairly straightforward to put content in the app store using TW. It should be just as secure from 'pirates' as any other web-stack app ported to the native app format - which is to say

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-25 Thread Atul Grover
Hi, @Mario, reiterating your comments... We loose control over TW5 one the user downloads a copy. He is then free to use the same, anonymously, in any manner he wishes. The user will reestablish contact with the server when (and if) he wished to download a plugin. But since the plugin library

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-25 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 7:52:09 AM UTC+2, Atul Grover wrote: Dear all, Can we have a way of monetizing the content delivered via plugins? IMO. Not really. You can hide your plugins behind a pay wall. So users can only download them if they have access. The problem is: - As soon

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-25 Thread 'aint John
Hi I would love to be able to sell content on iOS using TiddlyWiki ecosystem. Not too long ago posted a suggestion to Eric. Then removed it cos I don't know how the implementation should be. Anyways, IMHO You can't expect everyone in the world to donate money to you for your projects using

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-25 Thread 'aint John
Hoping to see the Tiddly Wiki Missing Manual on iOS to prove the point that content can be protected from pirates and delivered on iOS as apps. It will work as a tool for demonstrating and learning Tiddlywiki on iOS. But then, What better can Tiddlywiki ecosystem be able to do than an indexed

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-08-24 Thread Atul Grover
Dear all, Can we have a way of monetizing the content delivered via plugins? The plugin management system can be used for delivering customized content for individuals/corporate. Can we monetize for educational/counseling services (via xAPI/LRD integration) for creating 'learning dashboards'

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-02-03 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Paris Excellent ! That is a great step forward ! There is a definite need to address the mobile tools, smarphones and tablets. Yes, this is something I've been itching to do ever since TiddlyWiki5 got out of beta. As you know, and upon your advice, I within the last three months worked

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-31 Thread Peter Miller
I'm not Apple-based and don't have anything substantive to offer other than goodwill. I am guessing you will need to differentiate from other platforms and I would suggest your USP should be to support some kind of recommendation engine that allows students and/or staff to build a text

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-31 Thread Ed Dixon
Another interesting approach might be something like this http://classroom-aid.com/mobile-learning-authoring/claro-pricing-vs-features/ where extended capabilities needed for comercial purposes are added as a premium feature and are not a part of the opensource effort if you wanted to go that

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-31 Thread ParisWiki
Jeremy, Excellent ! That is a great step forward ! There is a definite need to address the mobile tools, smarphones and tablets. As you know, and upon your advice, I within the last three months worked with Eric in order to run a mockup for Android by using the Phonegap/ Cordova service by

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-31 Thread HansWobbe
I have many of the resources needed to support the development of a set of Real Estate applications, particularly in Canada as an initial focus. Small incremental steps would be quite acceptable, especially if a working Pilot/Prototype could be available in time for the 2015-Spring market

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-31 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Detailed responses below. Mat: would these solutions then be proprietary outside of TW? Might such an endeavour actually hamper regular TW development? TiddlyPip would be a set of tools that work with TiddlyWiki to create these custom iOS applications. They

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo Im particually interested on this scenario. Specially the multy-device sync. I wrote one manual for my company L1 and I used TW for allow readers to make notes using the Alberto's plugins. Do you think L1 might be interesting in backing the development? :) # Create a full end-user

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Jed Carty
I would be very interested in helping out. Unfortunately I am not sure if I have anything significant to offer for a project like this. I am hoping to work with Richard on the textbook, and was looking into other similar texts that could be converted once the problems are worked out making this

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Ed Dixon
I think this is a fantastic idea that once running could be extended to other platforms such as android, and windows store ecosystems easily once established! We have a group of people on our xAPI cohort team from an educational company called IDS who might be very interested in leveraging

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Richard Smith
Hi Jeremy, This is very interesting. Did you see the maths textbook that I posted a link to recently? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/Tiddlywiki/math/tiddlywiki/ZwPkUCfDzqI/xWOCz0LrZ9QJ I am interested in the possibility of deploying content like this in the app store, but it's

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread RichShumaker
Side note / disclaimer I already own TWEdit https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twedit/id409607956?mt=8 and I would pay for a version by you that is TW5 based. I also own (it is free) As Noted http://asnoted.com/ which has roots in TW. Most of my efforts are 'not for profit' endeavors as that is

Re: [tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Alex Hough
Do you have an idea for TiddlyWiki content that you think people might pay for? I'll focus on the word might Soon I hope to start work on a tool for place managers. It will be based on the OMM I (with great help from Eric and Tobias and many others) developed a few years ago [1] OMM has a

[tw] Re: Invitation to TiddlyPip: an Apple App Store experiment

2015-01-30 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
# Support publishing custom, TiddlyWiki-based applications, such as tw5.scholars. It wouldn't appear to be a TiddlyWiki file: it would behave like a custom app for scholarly notetaking (including multi-device sync) Im particually interested on this scenario. Specially the multy-device