[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
Jed, Thanks for your work, I will be donating as soon as my own finances are in order. I use windows 10, and happy to provide testing and feedback for you there. I replaced an older version with the latest and of course I no longer saw the hello. WHich means I did not see the new set the host

[tw] rest[0] problem

2018-03-23 Thread David Allen
I have about five hundred tiddlers that all display a decently-sized image. To reduce the impact on my machine, I've implemented a slider system that keeps track of a slider index using two simple buttons, then displays a list of five items starting at the slider index. Filter code is as

[tw] Re: rest[0] problem

2018-03-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
Yes, there is a bug! var count = parseInt(operator.operand) || 1, I think this would fix it var count = parseInt(operator.operand), results = []; if( isNaN(count) ) { count= 1; } -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

Re: [tw] rest[0] problem

2018-03-23 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi David The implementation of the rest filter (and most of the other “list-ops” filters) uses the default parameter value of one if the provided parameter value is zero. The code was written that way on purpose, but I think it’s probably a bug. You may be able to work around it for the

Re: [tw] rest[0] problem

2018-03-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
Am Freitag, 23. März 2018 10:41:32 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston: > > but I think it’s probably a bug. > It is and I just created a pull request to fix it. I also adjusted the x-listops, I hope that's okay. They had the same piece of code in I once introduced.

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
One issue in Windows for naive users will be that they don't inadvertently close the console Window. Once you up and running its probably better that its minimised to the tray, or that the over-easy close button is disabled. That can be done via Windows but I'm yet not sure if there is a

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Teething issues. Test 1 - So having set up as explained at: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/I3naFCl37kc/nU75sR4iBAAJ I copied the whole install to J:\twMU\ (USB pen drive). Started the server. Clicked on one of the wikis (relative paths that in theory should work). The *server

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
I wouldnt have tagged the illustration tiddlers at all. After all: They are already named "Illustration X" so a simple "prefix[Illustration ]" filter would do. Unfortunately automatic sorting of the tiddlers isn't possible yet. There is a plugin which could do that

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jed with your revised easier wiki creation schema I have managed to create wikis. Concerning portability. After creating them I went to Control Panel > Node Settings > Manual Settings and adjusted them to be Windows relative paths. Like this ... Where "." = current directory

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
Hmm. Let me try again: At http://tombofhorrors.tiddlyspot.com/#Illustrations:Illustrations%20Description the author uses <> to present images tagged with "Illustrations". This is ok, but not super ideal. I suggested he create a new tiddler called "Show the Illustrations" that made use of a

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
What was the problem with the <> approach? If it was just the sort order, add a field "sortby" to each illustration with a double buffered illustration number ("01", "02" ... "31" ) Then <> should work. -- Mark On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 10:51:27 AM UTC-7, Steven Schneider wrote: >

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed Since things are going well I thought to make some minor points. IMO adding a starting line on the console ... That says something like ... " -- DON'T CLOSE THIS WINDOW UNTIL DONE -- It is running TiddlyWiki in your browser" I'm sure there could be a better way to phrase it.

[tw] Store.php Server Settings.

2018-03-23 Thread Jan
Hi, I am trying to host a wiki on the webspace included with my domain... and so far I am stuck I am not quite certain with the serversettings. I tried a lot of possibilities...could this be correct? (With the slashes and everything) The adress is: ds.telekinese.net *Erweiterte

[tw] Re: Possible? Buttons to hide/show activate/deactivate some things on Wiki

2018-03-23 Thread Mat
Yes, that is very doable. You can use the ButtonWidget together with a few SetFieldWidgets to set the various states for those toggling things. I also made http://toggle.tiddlyspot.com/ some time ago but it is made for toggling one thing - but you can remake it to include SetFieldWidgets.

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
I updated the stand-alone executables so they use the file location as the basis for relative paths now. I was able to put the three executables (for windows, linux and osx) on a thumb drive and then make a wiki on my linux desktop, then plug it into the MacBook and use the same wiki there and

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey Stephan, Just letting you know that sortan is now part of the core (currently in prerelease): https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#sortan%20Operator On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 1:25:51 PM UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote: > > I wouldnt have tagged the illustration tiddlers at all. After all:

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Brilliant. Solves the problem. J. On Friday, 23 March 2018 21:18:44 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote: > > I updated the stand-alone executables so they use the file location as the > basis for relative paths now. I was able to put the three executables (for > windows, linux and osx) on a thumb drive and

[tw] Re: Making a copy of a wiki hosted on tiddlyspot

2018-03-23 Thread Mat
Hi Steve! How flattering to hear this. (I should update it to the latest version of TW.) One question: Mat, what is the username associated with these wikis created > on TiddlySpot? When I go to xxx.tiddlyspot.com/controlpanel, I can't seem > to login (I want to delete my test wikis...). >

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
Not a technical problem, a visual problem. He wanted to be able to leaf through illustrations without shifting tiddlers, and the tabs approach wasn't really doing it for him. Mostly: I'm interested here in understanding how list field differs from tag field, and how they can be used to

[tw] Re: [TW5] Edit Tiddly Wiki files straight on Google Drive

2018-03-23 Thread Mat
On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 5:35:10 PM UTC+2, Joshua Stubbs wrote: > > Hi, all. > > I made an app that lets one edit TiddlyWiki files saved in your Google > drive and then saving them back automagically. The page is here >

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed Footnote. I didn't mention your app. not because I think it isn't good. *I think its brilliant. *Rather because its not quite finished. And I'm unclear on some aspects of how to run it on Windows portably. That is most about me playing with the Windows path syntax till I get something that

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
If what you are saying is true than you are running into errors on windows that I can't see because I can't test on windows. So knowing about them would be really nice for me. Also, something that is probably relevant is that I redid how you make new wikis so it doesn't use shell scripts

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
A new release candidate is here! This time it has a new way of making new wikis without using shell scripts because that seemed to be the biggest source of problems for people. So now you go to the tab in the control panel, select the edition you want to use, give it a name and then click a

[tw] Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
One of the upsides of the emergence of so many well thought through responses to the Firefox Apocalypse is we are closer to being able to deliver TW in "packages" that resemble the installation of normal applications. This is something I'd like to explore more. In particular ... 1 -- What

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
How is this different than what I did packaging the multiuser plugin? It does what tiddlyserver does (serves multiple wikis), and when you open it you get a fully working tiddlywiki without any installation. Is there some difference or have I just been bad at showing what is there? -- You

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I get your point. In theory it is. But at naive user level its not quite what you think. Because users don't know what you know. For instance, if you just click on the .exe that starts it on on Windows from outside of the directory it is in (say from some file browsers) it can create

[tw] Re: Possible? Buttons to hide/show activate/deactivate some things on Wiki

2018-03-23 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Tony, I can give more detailed answer in a few hours. But only for short now: I think you missunderstood me a little bit. For the mentioned 2. Button: I meant to have only ONE Button. With that I could (I want) to hide /show the mentioned things with only one click. Why do I want this:

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed I'll explain in more detail later. But the basic issue in Windows is that to execute a file from another directory than the one it is in means that writes are relative to the directory run from, not relative to the directory the executable is in. A way round this is to use environment

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Måns Mårtensson
Wauv!! Please setup a PayPal account - I wan't to pay for this ;-) Great work @Jed Just ran it on Win 10 and everything seems to work out of the box :-) Also: *What a great way to showcase editions*. Nice touch with the 0.0.0.0. button ;-) Is there a way to point to a folder with your own

[tw] Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
Hi, I wrote this code the other day, and it got me thinking about different ways to use the tag field wondering how useful it might be to others. The challenge was to populate a list field, to give access to certain filters that use list. So what it does is basically creates a list field in a

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed Carty wrote: > > > Also, what do you mean by 'not portable'? It should be at least as > portable as the options you mentioned. > I'm pretty sure that your tool can be used portably. I'll try again on your latest version and let you know when I get extra wikis working. FYI, to be decently

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
As Jeremy has said many times, the people here aren't the target audience when asking for donations and support. I like tiddlywiki and the things I make are normally just the toys that I make in my spare time. This specific plugin I made to fit my companies internal needs so there is a bit more

[tw] Re: Possible? Buttons to hide/show activate/deactivate some things on Wiki

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
Surya, As mat says you can set the tiddler states using a list of action widgets inside a button, but first of course you need to know which state tiddlers or tags to add/remove and I have provided the details for each of these. Except the items you raised, and added them to a custom menu (did

[tw] Re: Possible? Buttons to hide/show activate/deactivate some things on Wiki

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
Post Script, The Checkbox widget actions New in 5.1.14 A string containing ActionWidgets to be triggered when the checkbox is clicked. Perhaps you could use this to trigger the aforementioned actions and the reverse, thus have a single checkbox.

[tw] Re: Possible? Buttons to hide/show activate/deactivate some things on Wiki

2018-03-23 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Tony & Mat, both are looking very interesting to me!! :-) I am too tired for now, but will have a detailed look and play around with it tomorrow afternoon, when I am back home. hihi- means giggling- I have now a button in another wiki called by me :-) -- You received this message

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
I love to hear all this talk, I am looking for the same holly-grail. Here are some additions to the discussion. TiddleyMultiUser single executable (Jeds is brilliant, and with the improvements mentioned hear is very cool) this is even before I have exploited the MultiUser features) As jed

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
Post Script To Spawn a new instance of TiddlyWin use Spawn {{$:/info/url/full}} Tony On Saturday, 24 March 2018 11:29:44 UTC+11, TonyM wrote: > > I love to hear all this talk, I am looking for the same holly-grail. > > Here are some additions to the discussion. > > TiddleyMultiUser single

[tw] Re: Can't Save TiddlyWiki 5 on Chrome 65/Windows 10

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
I am still on Chrome 64 (windows 10) so have not seen this problem however please share more details on your use, what saver are you normally using? Are you accessing it as a single file or through TiddlyServer etc...? Regards Tony On Saturday, 24 March 2018 09:28:09 UTC+11, Prescott Indigo

[tw] Can't Save TiddlyWiki 5 on Chrome 65/Windows 10

2018-03-23 Thread Prescott Indigo
I'm not sure why, but as of today Google Chrome isn't letting me save TiddlyWiki locally. When I click the Save Changes icon, it wants to open a new tab with an address like "blob:null/f68bac16-8632- ..." which puts me back at the logon screen. I'm using Windows 10 and Chrome 65.0.3325.181.

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread BurningTreeC
> We can also make a desktop file that launches it, so that no terminal is > needed > > ... Or one could simply make it a keyboard shortcut -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Mat
I'm probably doing a lot of naive mistakes but here's what I did and get: I downloaded the latest file and simply started it. I'm unsure if I had node.js installed previously (I did have it at one time but I may have uninstalled it) but currently when I look, I do have it which might be from

[tw] Re: Seeking Thoughts: Packaging A TiddlyWiki as A Single Application Helps Marketing?

2018-03-23 Thread BurningTreeC
As I'm a fan of pm2 - one can use it to start the single executable and close the terminal afterwards, pm2 keeps it running pm2 start --name multiuser /path/to/executable to stop it afterwards: pm2 stop multiuser to start it again: pm2 start multiuser reloading:

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread TonyM
Steven, I suppose the importance of the tag field is its supporting tools like tag pills, filters and tags as tiddlers. Personally I have started to reduce my use of tags in favour of reserving them for adhoc or hierarchical relationships. The list fields is a special case of using a field as

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
That is everything working. All the things failing is just it saying that the default wiki doesn't exist yet so it creates one. I should change what all the messages say to something less dire sounding. The next time you start it it should find all the configuration files and it will say it is

[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-03-23 Thread Stephan Hradek
To me it's absolutely unclear a) What you're trying to achieve b) What's your question Really sorry for that. Do you think there are filters the student can't use becaue he used tags and he could have used, had he used lists? So can you give an example? Maybe publish an example somewhere for

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread Jed Carty
As a quick update, I fixed a bug (at least on osx and linux, I can't test on windows at the moment) that only appears when you don't start from the command line. Under some circumstances the wiki folders would be created in unexpected places instead of wherever the executable is. If anyone can

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of multi-user tiddlywiki, release candidate

2018-03-23 Thread BurningTreeC
@Jed Your single executable is Great, nuff said. I'm a poor student but to support this I'm gonna look forward scratching some pennies together! Question: do you need help for documentation, or would you welcome PRs on your repository for the layout stuff? Simon -- You received this

[tw] Re: [TW5] Edit Tiddly Wiki files straight on Google Drive

2018-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
sorry: https://updog.co On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 6:45:04 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote: > > Steven, > > What you propose does not fit withing my expierence of TiddlyWiki hosting > and When I go to the URL given my Nortons says. > > BLOCKED BY > Dangerous Web Page BlockedYou attempted to

[tw] Making a copy of a wiki hosted on tiddlyspot

2018-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
Hi everyone, I have my students use Mat's very excellent http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ -- to be honest, I don't know what I'd do in my DesignWriteStudio class without it. Several students are building projects that they are hopeful others could use, and

[tw] Re: [TW5] Music Notation and Midi Playback

2018-03-23 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Piano Mk 2. I tried it on ... Desktop FF 52, 64 bit Win 7 -- Somewhat muffled sound. With clicks. Desktop Chrome latest, 64 bit Win 7 -- Cleaner sound but still not quite a piano. With clicks Tablet FF 53, 64 bit Win 10 -- Notes only play once for a long time. Pressing key again nothing