Hi,
I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save TW,
it overrides my script reference in the html code.
the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag
script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script
script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script
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Hi,
I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save
TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code.
the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag
script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript
Hi Matabele,
just want to say thanks! Your plugin solved my problem that I had with the
$newtiddler widget, where I had to predefine placeholders for fields in
order to set them.
Now I have all the flexibility I need, by being able to set
placeholders/tags/fields.
so thank you once more for
Hello,
I am currently working on my master thesis and organize myself via TW5.
TW5 is truly a great program and it really supports my workflow, however I
have a little problem.
*My problem:*
Structuring new thoughts is always a difficult process and consequently,
I often rename the titles of
Hi Danielo,
thanks for your hint, I didn't know this syntax exists, I will certainly
use it.
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Hi Stephan,
I checked out your alias system, it's a nice way if I want to provide
alternative names but this is not the case for me.
I don't want to create tags that contain titles just because I changed the
original title.
Wikipedia uses aliases to redirect to changed titles, but I don't like
Well, I know linking via ids is not readable in edit mode, however in a
non-edit mode, the id translates to a name, so that is ok for me.
As for semantic-alias (i.e. a real second title) vs. ids, I rather chose
ids as their purpose is only to allow exact references. same as in SQL
substituted for links.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
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Well, I know linking via ids is not readable in edit mode, however in a
non-edit mode, the id translates to a name, so that is ok for me.
As for semantic-alias
/$
tiddler
\end
This is a link by guid link qqu99yie1
Of course, it would be more useful if one could arrange for that macro
to be automatically substituted for links.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
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Well, I know linking
Hi Jeremy,
I think your video has a *good structure*, *clear language* and *covers
some important points*.
Maybe I can provide some information on what convinced me six months ago to
become a tiddlywikian.
1. It began when I started searching for a note-taking tool.
2. I *didn't want to
Hi,
consider the following:
*Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the value
out
\define getVariable(field)
$transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ /
\end
getVariable ref
the above works: it prints out, which is the field value of the field
ref
$edit-text
An addition: Tried the following with the same setup, it also does not
work. It even screws the gui up (see screenshot).
*Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the value
out
\define getVariable(field)
$transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ /
\end
\define
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Hi,
consider the following:
*Setup:* A tiddler named test with a field ref that contains the
value out
\define getVariable(field)
$transclude tiddler=currentTiddler field=$field$ /
\end
getVariable ref
the above works
Just out of curiosity, is there no way this could be done?
I mean: a edit-text reading its destination from a fieldvalue of the
current tiddler.
I love the API, but it sometimes hard to draw the line between what is
possible and what is not in TW.
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Hi Stephan,
If jeremy accepts my pull request (which is based on this suggestion) you
will be able to specify and access variables in the modal passed by the
event mechanism.
See:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/1045
In my *fork* I already tested this.
Example js invocation:
Just if anyone is interested.
This works:
$fieldmangler tiddler=currentTiddler
$button class= message=tm-add-tag param=tagnameadd tag/$button
/$fieldmangler
This doesn't
$fieldmangler tiddler=currentTiddler
$button
add tag
$action-sendmessage $message=tm-add-tag param=tagname /
Oh, that's the mistake! I had already given up :)
Thanks!
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Hi Danielo,
thanks for your answer.
I described my setup in the post above and also in the post below (see the
screenshot).
How would you do the following. (I understood Jeremy's answer as that it
cannot be done, but maybe you have an idea).
I want to create a tiddler that
(1) contains an
wishes
Jeremy.
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Hi Danielo,
thanks for your answer.
I described my setup in the post above and also in the post below (see
the screenshot).
How would you do the following. (I understood Jeremy's answer
Hi @all,
I created a short video to present a plugin that I'm currently developing.
So now everybody knows what I am working on and why I ask so many
questions in the forum :)
I described the plugin partly here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywikidev/hwtX59tKsIk/qAGRJxK9_iAJ
Note,
Yes. Which generator do you use?
Due to conveniance reasons I use the mechanism by the library that I also
use for drawing the network (vis.js).
Seems like they took a very simple approach generating the uuids (see
https://github.com/almende/vis/blob/master/lib/util.js#L65).
I created a
Thx @Stephan and @Alex, feels good to get positive vibes :)
Because my TW API differs, I will wait what Jeremy says about my pull
requests before I publish the beta.
But really nice to know that some people want to give it a try :)
Its not done yet and I haven't shown everything.
Also what's
Hi Ed
Love it! I am curious why D3 which is already available in TW5 didn't fit
the bill?
Thank you very much :) I looked at several systems that are especially
network oriented and thus provide more features than libraries that have a
broader approach like D3. D3 is super awesome, I know,
Hi Hans,
Very nice! This appears to go quite a way towards replacing several of the
functions of TheBrain that I still depend on. It might also reduce my use
of Microsoft's Project software
Yes, its great for organizing. As for me, I program this plugin to be
better organized with my
Merci beaucoup :)
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Hi Danielo,
really warm words, thank you Danielo!
*Your question about Cytoscape:* Yes its great I admit it, but I had to
make a choice. After comparing the APIs, I felt It doesn't focus on
graph-manipulation at runtime by the enduser (vis.js does this out of the
box). vis.js has many modes
Ok, I have to trust you since I did not make any comparison. What I don
like about vis.js is one of the things you consider a feature, the
physics. I hate them. I want to place elements whatever I want, not where
physics allows me. Will you give the option to deactivate them? I would
Hi Jeremy,
your congratulations mean much to me, thank you.
There is a lot more to come, I will post this in a second video soon. Then
I will do some code-cleanup and hopefully I can upload my code next week.
While I currently have two pull requests going, I absolutely depend on the
modal
Hi guys,
just did another video to complete the previous.
http://youtu.be/0QFE54HAzH0
Don't worry, I'm not spamming the forum with videos, I just wanted to give
a first impression.
Hope you like the new features.
Regards
Felix
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Hi Danielo,
thanks :) At the moment the menu is always on top, above the graph. but you
can hide it. Also if you save the canvas as png it will be hidden.
I still have to work on the static-graph mode (which was your idea). it has
a little bug.
I try my best to publish everything next week at
You mean that you can create many different mindmap-instances and store
them in separate tiddlers as adjustable-images?
This is truly a great idea for a feature Danielo! I want it too :)
I hope you understand that at the moment, I cannot implement everything. It
took me already two weeks to
Ok Danielo, you will love this: I just implemented your idea and its so
cool man.
http://youtu.be/8kk2FRIyf3o
Until later :)
Felix
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ok the video didn't work. I will upload it again when I am back from sports.
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Sorry, I am back from sports now.
The hype is justified :) It is cool, big promise:
http://youtu.be/Z-pQ59f7zCc
Regards felix
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By the way. The philosophy here is that a snapshot will be a clone of the
current filter used in the editor.
So say you want to create a mindmap or graph exclusively for a group of
tiddlers, then you would actually
1. create a group and call it graph xy and
2. then begin to tag tiddlers
an addition to the workflow described in my previous post
(https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Nj885Ia8kGA/RKRlL9id9JQJ)
because in my video (http://youtu.be/Z-pQ59f7zCc), i didn't really show a
real workflow, this is how you would do it
Looks great!
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Here is a working demo:
http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/
Scroll down to see two examples.
The network works really smooth in Chrome.
Firefox sometimes interrupts the motion of the graph if many nodes are
display.
Hope you like it :)
Felix
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Hi Stephan,
This is what I noticed: When I add a new node and change its name, it
hops away and I need to find it in the graph.
Yes, I know. This will be fixed. Also, each view/graph will save the
coordinates of the nodes it contains. At the moment everything changes
after a repaint().
Hi Daniel,
thanks for the feedback.
I think you might need to eat scroll events after your map sees them, when
I scroll vertically on a map (using two-finger-scroll on my Mac trackpad),
it zooms the map, but also scrolls the column of tiddlers.
I have no touchpad but as soon as I get my
Hi PMario,
thanks.
The link will follow this week.
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Hola Danielo,
Thank you very much for this. I did not play enough with your plugin yet. I
love the snapshot function.
Thanks!
As usual, I have a couple of suggestions:
...I expected it :)
1. As daniel said, the zoom thing is a problem. I used to scroll the
page with the
Thanks ton
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Hi Alex
Could each edge be a tiddler?
The type of edge could be depends on etc. but the tiddler itself would
detail the complexities of that dependancy. In a complex system the
interweaving of dependancies is a key aspect - one which mind mapping
software does not cater for.
Because
You should also update the vis.js library, to the latest version, which
has proper lizensing for TW plugins :)
There should be no conflicts anymore :)
Oh, thanks for paving the way :) Never thought about licensing issues.
I blushed a bit when you were speaking so positively about my
Hi Tobias
thanks for the feedback
one bug I noticed when deleting anything I get an *Internal Javascript
Error: undefined is not a function*... in Chrome.
this is on purpose to scare people off that want to delete their nodes.
seriously: yeah I will fix that :)
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Hi Tobias,
thanks for the input. Let me answer some points because I think there is a
misunderstanding here.
In general: You have to think of nodes like tiddlers and views like
tw-filters. It is almost exactly the same.
To me, a graph displays relations between tiddlers and the overhead
Hi Danielo,
*please wait till friday (or saturday)* for downloading. then it will all
be bundled and put on github. At the moment the css and the vis library are
not included as shadow tiddlers. (plus there are many bugs in the online
version). Its just there for giving you a very simple idea.
Hi Tobias
I appreciate your thoughts. but it is not possible to change the underlying
paradigm i am afraid.
I just want to explain how it can easily be done with the functions I will
provide. Consider your example:
For example, let's say I have the tids...
- Mum
- Dad
- Kiddo
I
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:00:04 AM UTC+1, James wrote:
Hi Felix,
This is really cool! How could I get it?
Hi James. Thanks. Not yet, please wait till the end of the week.
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Hi Mario,
Make *your core thing *work. Extensions can be made later.
yes, I will do that! :)
I hope it's all done by the weekend. I already locked my room and
deliberately isolated myself from all my friends and family to finalize the
plugin code ;)
Regards
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This is just crazy! :) I never thought about that
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Hi Tobias,
Thanks for taking the time to explain your concept in detail, much
appreciated!
No Problem, I even had similar thoughts when I designed the plugin two few
weeks ago. But I had to stick to a design choice eventually. Everything has
pros and cons as Mario already put it.
Great info danielo!
Thanks
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Hi Tobias,
just wanted to tell you that I thought about your remarks and I finally
made a choice to allow binding edges exclusively to views. In contrast to
nodes, which are regarded as universally unique subjects, which cannot
exist twice, a new edge can now be decided to be a non-exclusive
*graph,* *kraph*, *graf, *or *kraf* (k=küppers, f=felix ;-)
kraf :) great metamorphosis of the word graph! ...but doesn't it sound
kinda stereotypic, I mean a german (we are often called krauts) created a
tool called kraf :)
One more thing, it's probably a small thing for you but a
Hi Danielo,
I have problems with the graph being properly displayed at the moment (the
nodes overlap at the beginning in the center) but you can see a demo here
http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/
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Hi Mario,
I can create a default for the edgetype but I can never remove the dialog
as you then have no other possibility to change the edgetype..
Regards Felix
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:46:20 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:23:52 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote
Hi folks,
after almost a month of intensive coding the code is online and the plugins
are bundled.
The demo url is now:
http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/
(demo updates on every commit; the demo is also found on github)
I am sorry to tell you that no real documentation exists at the
Hi Danielo,
yes they do. At least on a desktop. I never tried on a mobile device yet.
The graphs in the tiddlers are not editable. you need to switch to the
editor.
Fellix
Am Freitag, 21. November 2014 20:19:53 UTC+1 schrieb Danielo Rodríguez:
Before commenting more further, does the edit
Hi Danielo,
yes they do. At least on a desktop. I never tried on a mobile device yet.
The graphs in the tiddlers are not editable. you need to switch to the
editor.
Ok I checked it now. On smartphnes there is a problem with the page resize
mechanism I am using. The editor does not
Hi Danielo!
I KNEW IT :) I expected that somebody would come and say that. So I created
an option (see tw option tiddler) in which you can specify which field you
want to use as id. You can also use the title as id or a field called
danielo. If no value is found in that field, a random number
If I move the whole graph and then move a node the graph is centred again.
So the program works against the user :/
IMO there is no notification needed for: positions stored and graph
centred message.
https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/2
Yes I have to change that. The
Hello Jeremy,
Congratulations, great to see the plugin out, and it looks good.
:) yay! I also used your buttons in the actions menu as the meanings are
the same (helps the user to quickly grasp the meaning). I think the
symbolic semantics should be consistent and only if no icon exist to
Servus Mario,
Both your issues are fixed now:
https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/2
https://github.com/felixhayashi/tw-taskgraph/issues/3
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Hi Jeremy,
not sure if this was asked before, but could you name the exported tiddler
according to the tiddlersname (minus slashes and all these symbols that
would cause conflicts with the os pathname).
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Hi Danielo,
I think is not possible because browser limitations. Maybe I'm wrong and it
is possible.
Hmm, it should be possible because at one point the download is named
tiddler.tid.
https:
//github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/wiki/macros/export.tid
reads the filename from
https://
github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/wiki/macros/export.tid
Ok I guess I misinterpreted the file but at some point it is decided how
to name the download
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I find too complicated to link two tiddlers.
I second that. The command popup at one tiddler should directly provide
the ability to select the target or source tiddler of the edge to link to,
i.e. filter all tiddlers, click, done.
Best wishes, Tobias.
Ah ok now I get what Danielo
Hi Danielo,
I'm playing around with your plugin on my desktop, so expect a couple of
posts here making questions and proposals.
ok, I try to collect them
Regarding linking tiddlers, I saw that you can link tiddlers very easy on
the thasgrap editor. Very cool,fast and easy. Why not add
For every request it would be great if you could file an issue with a small
message at github.
That way I can organize them
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Hola
Maybe an option? I think the best way is to pass to the widget a parameter
like: navigate=false.
Yes an option (but not via attribute, I will create an option tiddler where
you have a gui to set options. it will be with ckeckboxes like the dropdown
to hide edges)
I think you forgot
Hi Danielo,
Did you noticed that is not possible to add fields?
Hmm, it works fine for me. I mean, in the end, everything I create is a
tiddler and my plugin does not prevent you from entering more fields.
By the way. I frequently update the plugin at the moment. So for new
features or
Hi Tobias
Maybe this is already recorded on github, but... the inability to type on
the tag field of the taskgraph is intended?
Nope I am trying hard to solve that. Its on github already.
Also, take a look on how looks like your plugin imported into my personal
wiki:
Notice those
On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:04:01 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
Dam!
Do you know what can be causing this?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6VM1Dsm-PtE/VHLmC4UZPcI/Lmw/wuLPFXrI-M4/s1600/error.PNG
That was a tiddler with this content
$taskgraph mode=graph height=300px
I will try to make most of the options available from the menubar above the
graph. So you can set options for every graph independently.
Takes time though.
Please be patient. :)
On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:46:32 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
Hello Felix,
I find the tiddler
Yes, I agree with Tobias.
On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:52:00 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
Well, you'd have to have individual tiddlers for that in your Wiki anyhow,
no?
- [[Transactions.ID]]
- [[Sales.ID]]
- [[Sales.Transaction_ID]]
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Hi Danielo
One question: Is possible to make a node appear twice? Maybe allowing more
than one ID. This could be useful to me because I'm creating a schema of my
company DB, and there are a lot of properties with the same name. Having
tables linked with properties that does not actually
Thinking about this I think the caption thing could be the solution. Then
you can name the property with the name of the table also and specify just
the property name on the caption.
The only thing I can think of is to let you specify an alias for a node
that is stored only in the view
Ah danielo.
You cannot clone tiddlers! Did you do that? Because the id is then
dublicated.
Felix
On Monday, November 24, 2014 9:04:01 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
Dam!
Do you know what can be causing this?
When you start searching it will show you your searched tiddlers and their
neighbours:
http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/
try searching for bread or tgm
WARNING CODE IS NOT DONE YET. THIS IS JUST A SWEET DEMO :)
Hope you like it
Felix
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Hola amigo
This is awesome!! Very useful, powerful... and a lot of full.
Yay!
How can apply this to a single view? It will make it one of the best tools
to visualize data and see relations between them.
Good idea, I am working on it! ;)
BTW did you see my pull request? I'm not
The feature to export tiddlers is such a relieve! I am happy it exists.
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Thanks Ton,
yes that's right. Positions are not stored in this dynamic search scenario.
The point is storing positions would create a mess when you change your
search term and the node position is not the best anymore.
Also at the moment I do a full graph refresh on every keypress.
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plugin.
Nice thanks for sharing, danielo
I will look at your other pull requests to once I have the time.
Its great that you paste screenshots, it gives me sense how you use it.
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Hi @Tobi @Mario,
thanks guys. Still, it's really not done yet. I need to color the tiddlers
that represent the search result red (or some other color). And do some
optimization.
There are also many features in the background that I haven't documented
yet. I think I also need a feature
Hi, Stephen,
I posted this somewhere else, but this is how I decided to use tw.
1. It began when I started searching for a note-taking tool.
2. I *didn't want to install* a wiki or some application on my desktop.
3. The program should be *portable on a usb-stick*... but how can I
What does the view shows exactly? The matched tiddler and its relations or
only the matched tiddlers?
If it is the first thing maybe you should give a different color to the
matched tiddler.
Hi Danielo, yes, this is what I meant in my post above
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Great Job Mat for this overview.
I think we need to really focus on third party channels to interest new
users that never heard of tw.
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Hi Danielo,
great idea man. Using google drive as webspace for tiddlers and making the
accessible via ajax is such a cool idea!
Really smooth design for upload and download with the cloud icon. great!
I have a suggestion:
The problem is, it is difficult to download tiddlers you created because
Hi Danielo
Maybe I express myself wit too much enthusiasm.
This is really just a misunderstanding. Don't let yourself down, you did a
nice job building such a prototype!
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Hi Danielo,
the links all give a 404.
Felix
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Hi Mario,
Yes. Which generator do you use?
now yours :)
/**
* An adopted version of pmario's version to create UUIDs.
*
* Shortened version pmario (1.0 - 2011.05.22):
* http://chat-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/#UUIDPlugin
*
* Original verison:
* Math.uuid.js (v1.4)
* http://www.broofa.com
Hi Danielo,
Once I am not so busy anymore I will have a good look at it :)
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Hi Jon,
Danielo wrote a great plugin that shows you the context of the search term
occurence.
Just look for context search.
The search is normally used in advanced search mode but I think with
Jeremies changes in 5.1.5 you can also make it your default search
visualizer.
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Hi Birthe,
it's just a convention to use these words as meaningless placeholders. This
way people (mostly programmers) quickly understand that this is an example.
Regards
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@David - Just wanted to say, I really like your text (and the word styling
of the words links and tags is also a great idea). Its clean and
simple, yet creates interest.
Felix
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I totally agree. The empty downloaded wiki should not be named randomly. I
often searched for the download in my folders as I couldn't remember how it
was named. When I started using TW, it also caused some irritation to me as
a file like MMOFOzUq.html looks like an *error*.
Felix
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Hi WiM,
this is really a cool picture!
Under which license did you publish it? Would you mind granting me the
rights to use it as it I want to use it for my tw-taskgraph plugin :)
Your graphical elements really look like the nodes in taskgraph.
See the demo here:
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