[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-02-17 Thread Joshua Fontany
And I found the Bob config tab & related docs. Cool, no worries on that. It would be great to resolve the tiddlyweb plugin errors, as I would like to sync my local Bob wiki folder to github, but can't be sure others pulling it are using Bob. Best, Joshua Fontany On Sunday, February 17, 2019

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-02-17 Thread Jed Carty
The tiddlyweb error is probably because there is a .tid version of the tiddlyweb plugin in the tiddlers folder. It happens sometimes and I haven't gotten around to publishing the changes I made to keep that from being a problem. The save button no longer saves a single file copy because people

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-02-17 Thread Joshua Fontany
Hmmm. I have also run into the "syncer-browser-tiddlyweb" errors. I also noted that at some point I stopped being able to save local single-file copies of the wiki by clicking normal checkmark/save button. But if I don't have `tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb` in my tiddlywiki.info file, I can't just use

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-28 Thread Joshua Fontany
Jed, this is excellent work. I just realized that the TW releases had broken my JsonMangler code in the latest version. I had been developing on tiddlyserver (& it doesn't like the latest) & needed to refactor. Just got up and running with Bob, and the SLACK it has given me! ( ; ) ) Bravo.

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-16 Thread Matthew Lauber
Hey Jed, Since the update, I'm having difficulty using the <$action-websocketmessage> "internalFetch". I was trying to populate my rootWiki with the $:/SiteTitle from the various other wikis, and had this working in 1.1.0. Now, the call to internalFetch results in "Couldn't parse

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-15 Thread Ste Wilson
Hello! Finally ssh'd into my pi and updated both Bob and tiddlywiki. All went mostly well. All $:/ tiddlers seem to have vanished as had JD's mobile theme. Fortunately I'd a backup! Only snag so far is the 'download as single file' button reports an error and doesn't download. Will try to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread TonyM
Jed, For the latest and prior versions of BobExe running on Windows and in FireFox when I go to close FireFox most tabs containing a BobWiki generate the following prompt regardless of if the WIki has already saved updates; **This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread Dave
Ha ha, well you know what they say: "Beggers (me) can't be choosers" I'm just thankful you've brought Bob into the TW community. I've been waiting for years to be able to have a file-per-tiddler system. Now that I've taken the steps to figure out Bob I suppose I could have figured out

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread Jed Carty
The error was due to a fix for something else breaking relative paths for the root wiki, so it wasn't anything you did wrong. I just need to make a more robust test suite than 'whatever things I think of to test at the time'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread Dave
Thank you - my Bob is up and running again :) I had the same error that the fellow above using Termux had, and I'd originally done a git pull in Tiddlywiki5 folder that broke my install. I wonder if that's why. (don't forget you're dealing with amateurs here :D ) -- You received this

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread Jed Carty
You have to go into the Bob plugin folder. If you followed the instructions in the readme without changing anything than from the TiddlyWiki5 folder you would type: cd plugins/OokTech/Bob git pull the Bob repo is inside the TiddlyWiki5 repo, if you are not inside the Bob folder than it will

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-13 Thread Dave
Is there something I'm missing to get the recent fixes? I was under the impression that I should just go to the Tiddlywiki5 folder and enter "git pull", but when I do that it says "Already up to date." I'm (obviously) not really knowledgable about git, so, is there some obvious thing I'm

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Rizwan Ishak
Thank you, can confirm that the bug is fixed now. >  So you may be the only person other than me who is using the plugin version > of Bob because the second error isn't related to termux. I am sure there are others. People are usually little behind in update cycles. >  I will spend a few

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
I have not had a chance to look at the editing javascript issue, but I did find the source of the termux errors. I have been using absolute paths to the root wiki on all of my tests and the error only appears when using relative paths. So you may be the only person other than me who is using

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Riz
Jed, Glad you could replicate it. If it helps, this is an issue with new release. Previous release worked well in termux. Also, since I don't have a working Bob to verify (don't have access to my desktop now, only termux), I hope you looked into the the editing JavaScript issue. I had

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
Riz, I think I found the source of the problem, I am testing it now. It looks like for some reason on termux the browser is trying to load the favicon before the RootWiki is loaded. I am not sure if this is a problem specific to termux or if it is because phones generally have less power than

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
Riz, I finally got everything installed on the phone and I am getting the same error as you. I am not sure why it is happening but I have some ideas, I will let you know if I get a fix. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
I have absolutely no idea where the losing focus error came from, and if it is fixed now (I don't think it was last time I tested it on my computer) I also have no idea why. It may be a mystery of the computer gnomes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed. Quick note. I will test over next couple of days on details. But please note that on Windows *I no longer have the issue on keystroke focus*. It was maybe a side-effect of some error you fixed? Anyway, its working for me now fine. Josiah On Friday, 11 January 2019 19:07:15 UTC+1, Jed

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-12 Thread Jed Carty
Riz, I will try to install termux on my phone and see how it goes. I couldn't find any reason in the code for that error so there is probably something I am overlooking. Mark, Those errors are from the tiddlyweb plugin. If you have it listed in the tiddlywiki.info file and don't have the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Linux. Bob Timey Wimey. When I try to run one of my existing data folders I get a series of yellow 404 messages similar to: syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 21:38:31 11 1 2019 XMLHttpRequest error code: 404 syncer-browser-tiddlyweb - 21:38:33 11 1

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread Riz
Hi Jed, If you have an android phone, can you test it on termux? I need to make sure that it is not an issue of my setup. I did a fresh install from scratch with the following commands git clone --depth=1 --branch v5.1.18 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.git git clone --depth=1

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-11 Thread Jed Carty
I just put out a bug fix release, so 1.2.1 is up. The changes are just fixing bugs. Thanks to mklauber for contributing to this release. It is marked as a prerelease to see what sort of horrible bugs pop up next. It should fix the bugs mentioned here except for the one where changing the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread TonyM
Jed, Fact is I am keen to support your effort, and will. Thanks for all your contributions. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
Tony, I didn't mean to be soliciting donations by my comments. I was just pointing out that trying to leverage money against me on this wouldn't be very effective. I am very grateful for the donations that I do get but they are far from enough to be the main motivation for any of this. For

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread TonyM
Jed, I desperately want to donate to you, but I am just starting in business, and not earning enough yet. Hang in there if possible. Since my $ are low, I plan to help you with Windows as soon as possible, but I still need to get to know Bob well enough, to be confident I can help correctly.

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:55:39 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote: > > > Also I don't respond very well to coercion. > Are you feeling coerced? Then give it up. I'm certainly not coercing you. Moving on to Linux. Attempting to connect to a setup I used last time I beta-tested Bob,

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
As far as patronage goes, I do support windows now and each month I get enough to cover about 15 minutes of my time at normal contracting rates. And I have spent about 40 to 50 hours trying to track down weird things from windows. So from a financial point of view I have lost many times the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Jed It could be every desktop using windows and it wouldn't mean that I get > anything more for supporting windows than not supporting windows. If you're hoping for patronage, then your odds are 5x better if you include the windows world at little extra cost (or at least so it appears from

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
It could be every desktop using windows and it wouldn't mean that I get anything more for supporting windows than not supporting windows. I think I found the source of the problem and I will get a fix for it eventually. And no, Bob doesn't serve single file wikis, what it does is it makes it

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > You don't know off hand if Bob can serve single file TWs ? I'm assuming > not. > I'm not fully sure as it not my need to do that. But Bob can convert single file to Bob using an action widget, if that is any use? See: $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ActionConvertWiki J. -- You

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark S. wrote: > > Where do you change the virtual "file" path (like to make it "images", for > instance). > There is a good overview of configuring the various pathings here ... https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/blob/master/Configuration.md And in the latest Bob.EXE Jed's helpfully included

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
@TiddlyTweeter You don't know off hand if Bob can serve single file TWs ? I'm assuming not. @TiddlyTweeter and/or Jed Can you set lazy loading in the settings? Where do you change the virtual "file" path (like to make it "images", for instance). Thanks! -- Mark On Thursday, January 10,

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed & Mark I can't add much constructive to Mark's comments ... but thought it worth emphasising ... -- manual settings entries are losing focus on edit character by character. NB: previous versions of bob.EXE Windows did not have that issue on settings. -- I tried updating or adding several

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Additional note about odd behavior. When I'm in the Settings Tab and refresh the screen, it will ask me if I want to leave the page (even though I haven't changed anything on the page). When I say "yes" and it refreshes, Bob closes itself out. Don't know if that's intended. -- Mark On

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I can create a path using a text editor. Apparently windows paths need to have the backslash escaped, like C:\\mypath\\to\\tiddlywiki.info\\dir When I view this in the manual settings tab, the double \\ are reduced to single \. When I attempt to edit in the Manual Settings tab, everything is

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Not "a lot of desktops" -- 80% of desktops. *Most *desktops. Ok. Rebooted. I also turned off my add blocker and privacy badger. Was able to create an empty edition. Hurrah! But then I tried entering a path to an existing data folder, and got the 2 byte settings file again. The main problem

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
A lot of desktops use it but that doesn't get me anything. The windows exe file is also two levels of things that I don't use, windows and BobEXE, which means I put a lot of time and effort into debugging something that I can't test and that I don't use. I probably won't actually drop support,

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm rebooting my computer to see if there were any memory problems (typing from a Linux machine, while waiting for infernal Windows updates to complete). Dropping support for windows? 80% of desktops/laptops are running windows. On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 7:46:36 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
Ok, then it sounds like the windows build is somehow corrupted if it is missing documentation tiddlers. There may also be some problems with windows and its weird pathing. If I remember correctly I had trouble before because windows doesn't understand cwd the same way as every other system so

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Yes, IndexWiki works. On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 7:25:35 AM UTC-8, Jed Carty wrote: > > It sounds like either the window executable didn't compile correctly or > there are some very strange interactions between my code and windows paths. > The path you mentioned a few post ago was to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
It sounds like either the window executable didn't compile correctly or there are some very strange interactions between my code and windows paths. The path you mentioned a few post ago was to the tiddlers folder, not where the tiddlywiki.info file is which is why I mentioned it. Does the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I was using BobExe on windows 7, home 64. Yes, I was using the path to the folder with tiddlywiki.info. The tiddlywiki.info path was part of a data tiddler used previously by tiddlyserver. I also tried it with a path to the empty editions tiddlywiki.info folder of tiddlywiki from the TW

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-10 Thread Jed Carty
Mark, Are you using BobEXE or the plugin? How did you install the plugin if that is what you are using? I haven't been able to replicate anything you have mentioned on linux or osx using BobEXE or Bob as a plugin. I don't have access to a windows computer to test on. And the path isn't to the

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
If I take the 92 byte file and manually restart Bob, Bob still ignores the new settings -- they don't show up in the editor and the new wiki doesn't appear in the wiki listing. -- Mark On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 8:57:05 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > Deleted the artifacts Bob had made, and

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Deleted the artifacts Bob had made, and started again. When Bob first starts, Bob has settings.json with about 92 bytes of data. After you attempt to make changes, it generates a 2 byte file. -- Mark On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 8:40:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > I take it back. When I

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I take it back. When I restart Bob, the wiki settings I had previously inserted are gone. On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 8:15:44 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > Looking in the settings directory, settings.json only has 2 bytes: {} > > So, where is it saving settings? They seem to save, though

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Looking in the settings directory, settings.json only has 2 bytes: {} So, where is it saving settings? They seem to save, though they don't do anything. -- Mark On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 7:53:15 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > Are you running out of names for bread products, BTW? > > Win

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Are you running out of names for bread products, BTW? Win 64, Firefox 64 Not much luck. Attempted to create "test" wiki. After pressing button, Bob will erase the contents of the name field. No wiki appears in the listing. In the help text there is a missing link "see exporting wikis"

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Riz
No. I am testing it on a fresh install of everything including tiddlywiki. The problem happens from the get go. Slow hardware could be the culprit here. Although, as I said, previous version worked well in termux. Let me know if any other info I can provide. -- You received this message

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
I updated BobEXE so it should have the correct version now. Let me know if there are more problems. Mark, There is a lot of documentation in the Bob Settings tab, including about how to serve external files. I am sure there are a lot of holes in it but it is there. I am not sure where else to

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I feel there must be a page I'm missing somewhere with additional documentation. Or maybe it appears when it is installed? I don't see anything about external files, for instance. Thanks ! -- Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
Riz, After looking at it a bit more I think that the only way that you would get that error is if you have autoUnloadWikis set to true. Now that I am looking closer I see that there could be times on slower hardware when the root wiki could be unloaded before you can load it. So if you have

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
Riz, It looks like the only way to get that error in the screenshot is if the root wiki doesn't exist. This may be because of the changes to how the pathing works between the old and new version. If you have the root wiki in the Wikis folder and listed as a relative path in settings.js try

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread TonyM
I did not want To impose. I will give more feedback, the features mean a lot to me. I will try the rerelease. I am also about to identify a plugin that appears to abend bob just on import. Thanks Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
TonyM wrote: > > I Will review what Josiah/TiddlyTweeter documented, but I imagine it is > changing rapidly. > I'm not sure those notes I wrote are fully current now. However there are two issues on setup that they cover that are. These are both issues I would not expect Jed to have to deal

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
Argh, somehow I managed to upload a version that doesn't have the updated version of Bob and I was doing testing with a version that did have it. I will update it when I get home in a few hours. Sorry about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed Carty wrote: > > ... as it is I get very little feedback about the development and I have > no idea which features people care about and which ones they have trouble > using > I do think its important you get feedback. Bob is rich software. I'll use the new version a few days then

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
Tony, We are working on more documentation, but as it is I get very little feedback about the development and I have no idea which features people care about and which ones they have trouble using. Also if you don't see the button than something strange is going on. Are you looking at the tab

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-09 Thread Jed Carty
if you are using absolute paths to wikis instead of creating them through the interface in the control panel or they are not in the wikis folder it should work fine without any changes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-08 Thread TonyM
Jed, I upgraded bobEXE but "*Auto-populate list from Wikis folder"* does not appear, however the existing ones are all there and *the links to existing wikis work.* *BIG IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are updating from a previous version you must go into the Available Wikis tab under Bob Settings in

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.2.0 Wibbly Wobbly

2019-01-08 Thread TonyM
Jed, Thanks you so much for developing this fantastic tool further. I am excited about all the features you put in, I currently use Bob exe to manage a number of Wikis, but Without shared or inter-wiki features. To be honest I still have trouble translating how to achieve things you say it