Re: [time-nuts] Multiple Voltage monitoring

2009-07-31 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
The $25 widget from Dataq. 4 channels, 10 bits, serial port http://www.dataq.com/products/startkit/di194rs.htm They have others. I've also used the Eval boards from Maxim or Nat Semi, but these day's they're usually USB. Sometimes, the protocol isn't published, but is trivially reverse

Re: [time-nuts] looking for good description/generalized model for time adjustments

2009-07-29 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:51 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] looking for good description/generalized model for

Re: [time-nuts] Posting style Was: looking for good description/generalized model for time adjustments

2009-07-29 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
ask, that at minimum, you don't put chevrons in front of your new reply lines when you respond to previous messages. -Rex Lux, James P (337C) wrote: -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Wednesday, July 29

Re: [time-nuts] Posting style Was: looking for good description/generalized model for time adjustments

2009-07-29 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
Test of quoting of responses.. This looks better, at least from here.. James Lux, P.E. Task Manager, SOMD Software Defined Radios Flight Communications Systems Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Mail Stop 161-213 Pasadena, CA, 91109 +1(818)354-2075 phone +1(818)393-6875 fax

Re: [time-nuts] What's the cleanest way to produce 1 and 5 MHz from10 MHz?

2009-07-28 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
On 7/28/09 4:47 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@worldnet.att.net wrote: If you want a 'vintage' solution, the HP 5087A can be configured to take a single 5 or 10 MHz and divide/multiply it to 10 MHz, 5 MHz, 1 MHz and even 0.1 MHz then feed that to various output amplifiers of 10, 5, 1 or 0.1 for

Re: [time-nuts] What's the cleanest way to produce 1 and 5 MHz from10 MHz?

2009-07-28 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard W. Solomon Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:21 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] What's the cleanest way to produce 1 and 5 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Position accuracy to improve Thunderbolt performance

2009-07-27 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:04 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Position accuracy to improve Thunderbolt performance Hi Warren: I've found Google

Re: [time-nuts] Phase shifter circuit for DTMD

2009-07-24 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
On 7/24/09 6:32 AM, Stephan Sandenbergh step...@rrsg.ee.uct.ac.za wrote: Hi, Many sources and papers refer to the actual DMTD mixer system (and zero-crossing detector etc.). But, I've seen very little on the phase shifter circuits, that are used in conjunction with this system. I was

[time-nuts] adjustable gain/offset amplifiers

2009-07-24 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
I'm looking for some amplifiers with adjustable gain (say from 0 to 5) and offset (say +/- 5V) for general benchtop use (e.g. you have some widget you want to test as a replacement, but the original device had different input ranges, and before you go redesign the rest of the circuit..) with at

Re: [time-nuts] adjustable gain/offset amplifiers

2009-07-24 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:35 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] adjustable gain/offset amplifiers Hi Jim, A couple of

Re: [time-nuts] adjustable gain/offset amplifiers

2009-07-24 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert Atkinson Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:55 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] adjustable gain/offset amplifiers I have an EGG

Re: [time-nuts] Tbolt not talking

2009-07-22 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
Hey Chuck, I just learnt a new word: Gonzo :-) I has a nice feel to it -- out of interest do you have the etymology? I assume of US/Mexican origin? Does it have any implied meaning other than that which I inferred: i.e. idiotic? See: Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas From

Re: [time-nuts] Where does 28V come from?

2009-07-21 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:45 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Where does 28V come from? In message

Re: [time-nuts] US ebay sellers who won't ship outside the US

2009-07-16 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
In message c6848687.91d9%james.p@jpl.nasa.gov, Lux, James P (337C) writ es: ITAR and EAR are complex and[...] Actually, the Vasenaar Convention made all that a lot simpler. --- Not that much simpler.. You still have the Basic List and Munitions list, and the terms on the list are vague enough

Re: [time-nuts] US ebay sellers who won't ship outside the US

2009-07-16 Thread Lux, James P (337C)
The issue of returning equipment for repair is a significant concern. Unless you have the appropriate licenses both ways.. Company A in Germany, say, ships a widget to company B in the US, all nicely approved by whoever in Germany (maybe they didn't even need a license). Widget breaks and Company

Re: [time-nuts] [Fwd: Accurate Thunderbolt position]

2009-07-15 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:54 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] [Fwd: Accurate Thunderbolt position] Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: My Ashtech

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate Thunderbolt position

2009-07-14 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:56 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Accurate Thunderbolt position Hi Mark: 0.1

Re: [time-nuts] surplus carrier phase measurement-capable receivers (was Thunderbolt firmware differences)

2009-07-13 Thread Lux, James P
On 7/13/09 1:59 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: What typically-available surplus receivers do carrier phase measurements[1]? I'm close to putting up a choke ring antenna I scored off of the surplus market on the roof -- I don't think the wife is going to let me

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix GPIB-USB vs. GPIB-LAN vs. NI was: AW: Prologix GPIB-USB vs. GPIB-LAN

2009-07-06 Thread Lux, James P
On 7/6/09 5:37 AM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: Of course, an alternative is to assign one USB or LAN GPIB unit to each instrument, but that gets expensive. Yes, if you're scrounging old test equipment for $100 a copy. If you have chunks of gear that cost $10K each, then

Re: [time-nuts] Broken Ovenaire OSC 85-50 - crystal failure ?

2009-07-04 Thread Lux, James P
On 7/4/09 1:49 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: I've not attempted to butcher a capsule open to determine the cause - this to my mind is bordering on the sacrilegious but if given absolution from another TimeNut, I may attempt it and photograph the results ... What have

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix GPIB-USB vs. GPIB-LAN

2009-07-04 Thread Lux, James P
On 7/4/09 7:43 PM, Chad Simpson analogaficion...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, this is my first post to the list... Like many of you, over time I've acquired enough test equipment with the GPIB interface that I'm wanting to make use of it. I have narrowed the choice down to one of the

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix GPIB-USB vs. GPIB-LAN

2009-07-04 Thread Lux, James P
On 7/4/09 8:36 PM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.com wrote: I have a GPIB-LAN, and it works. You basically telnet to it and issue commands either manually or via software. It works with EZ-GPIB without any trouble. It's extremely easy to use. That being said, it is not a

Re: [time-nuts] Google Patent Search is Broken

2009-07-01 Thread Lux, James P
http://www.uspto.gov has a pretty good search engine for US patents (with images, if you load the AlternaTiff plugin)   Try http://ep.espacenet.com/  It's an offical  european  site that   also searches  US and World Patents. Very flexible  search options   and no registration

Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject)

2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:40 AM To: les...@veenstras.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play

Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject)

2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:32 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject) Yes, you can just leave the unit running

Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject)

2009-06-30 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:48 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Plug and play GPSDOs was:(no subject) - Something like this by any

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-29 Thread Lux, James P
Isn¹t Inmarsat in a Clarke Orbit? If the propagation path for the solar eclipse shadow experiment runs through the eclipse with the path from Clarke orbit to you, then there's tons of signals available to look at. On 6/28/09 10:48 PM, Lester Veenstra m0...@veenstras.com wrote: INMARSATS

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-29 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: Lester Veenstra [mailto:m0...@veenstras.com] Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:22 AM To: Lux, James P; les...@veenstras.com; 'Discussion of precise timeand frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals James: I am afraid you lost me

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/28/09 2:59 AM, iov...@inwind.it iov...@inwind.it wrote: Thanks all. Let's explain why I would like to look at orbiting crystals. Making experiments during eclipses would almost always mean that a measuring instrument should be put in the eclipse path. This is not always possible,

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/28/09 3:23 PM, iov...@inwind.it iov...@inwind.it wrote: James Lux wrote: Ah.. That's easy.. Pretty much every satellite in orbit derives its transmit frequency from a crystal oscillator, either a TCXO or a OCXO. So all you have to do is pick a LEO satellite that is easy to receive

Re: [time-nuts] Orbiting crystals

2009-06-28 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/28/09 4:35 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: iov...@inwind.it wrote: James Lux wrote: Ah.. That's easy.. Pretty much every satellite in orbit derives its transmit frequency from a crystal oscillator, either a TCXO or a OCXO. So all you have to do is pick a LEO

Re: [time-nuts] Ideas for a long-wave receiver sought

2009-06-22 Thread Lux, James P
200kHz is a bit tricky for the top end.. That probably puts the standard music recording A/D out of the picture (although they have very high performance A/Ds in them, and because of large production volume, they're relatively inexpensive). Almost any PC these days has enough processor to take

Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite signal generator?

2009-06-19 Thread Lux, James P
How accurate? What frequency range? What spectral performance (harmonics, spurs)? One thing to watch out for on testing with very low level signals is leakage out of the signal generator and into the unit under test via a path other than the coax. When we test deep space transponders at work at

Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite signal generator?

2009-06-19 Thread Lux, James P
We use a lot of 3325As in the lab at JPL (they used to have dozens of them at the deep space network, so there are lots of them around). Some have the rear panel option that puts out a sine wave up to 60MHz, which is fairly convenient. The settability with lots o' digits is nice (that's why

Re: [time-nuts] OT favorite signal generator?

2009-06-19 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/19/09 6:38 AM, optoma...@rogers.com optoma...@rogers.com wrote: Hey Robert Great tip about the attenuator. I looked up some models on the internet and some look fairly expensive. I know that I will always be injecting low voltage signals, do you think it would be wise to buy a

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-16 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:05 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-16 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:20 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature In a message dated

Re: [time-nuts] Lifetime of glass containers

2009-06-15 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:57 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lifetime of glass containers Not to charge in,

[time-nuts] Pre-industrial timekeeping accuracy RE: Lifetime of glass containers

2009-06-15 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:34 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lifetime of glass containers Interestingly, I

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-13 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/13/09 10:16 AM, Thomas A. Frank ka2...@cox.net wrote: I just don't know what to say to that! Even a child can put a case of bottled water in a box, and not have it evaporate or leak. I would venture that said case of bottled water will still be full up when the child graduates from

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Lux, James P
On 6/10/09 1:15 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Nobody having a thermal inductive material around? That would be very usefull to handle temperature shifts. Let's see.. If heat flow (watts) is the analog of current (Amps), and delta T is the analog of voltage, what

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Lux, James P
I read somewhere the suggestion to take the cast iron block from an old automobile engine and put it in a heavy insulated wooden cabinet: ~250 Kg of iron in an insulated box. Cracked blocks are useless in an engine, and so are available in junkyards quite cheap. Joe Gwinn At

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature

2009-06-10 Thread Lux, James P
Vintage port is more traditional substance... -Original Message- From: Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: 6/10/09 16:45 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt stability and ambient temperature Joseph M Gwinn

Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz references

2009-06-02 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:08 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz references

2009-06-02 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rex Moncur Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:06 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz references

2009-06-01 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rex Moncur Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:00 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz references

Re: [time-nuts] PCI IRIG receiver card for AIX?

2009-05-27 Thread Lux, James P
Symmetricom bc635pci-V2 or -U? PCI-SG 2U (some of the old TrueTime products, I'm sure) It does IRIG... You'll have to call Symmetricom to see about drivers.. It has Win, Linux, and Solaris. On 5/27/09 7:26 PM, Joe Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody know of any PCI cards that will

Re: [time-nuts] Time Signals on TV signals

2009-05-25 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/25/09 9:52 AM, Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote: Aficionados of accurate time, I have two Panasonic DVD TV recorders, a DMR-EZ27 and 28. They were set to automatically sync time to a TV station. This worked fine until a few months ago. Now they are on manual time, but, of course,

Re: [time-nuts] Time Signals on TV signals

2009-05-25 Thread Lux, James P
I think you're talking about the VITC, which is on lines 19 and 20 (so you get it on both fields with interlacing). VITC carries hour/minute/second/frame (same as LTC), but I don't know if it's program time (since start of program) or real time). There's a bunch of flavors of vertical interval

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/24/09 8:32 AM, Bob Paddock bob.padd...@gmail.com wrote: A 33.31 format would buy us a century, still allow us to get nanoseconds right, but it be computationally inconvenient and looks messy, so people balk at it. Anything wrong with TAI64NA? http://cr.yp.to/libtai.html libtai

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-24 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/24/09 11:13 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Also, someone I was discussing this with at work reminded me of a common problem. We often run tests in a testbed where we need to have the entire testbed running at some time *not the actual time*.. E.g. If you're

[time-nuts] 8662 question Re: 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-22 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/22/09 10:39 AM, Rick Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote: Considering Other than that, there is really no way a transformer can fail. Another thing is that if any fan were used, it would raise the issue of microphonics in the 10811 oscillator, which is a serious issue in the

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-21 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard (Rick) Karlquist Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:26 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more (actually 5370A

Re: [time-nuts] 5070B once more.... (actually 5370A fans)

2009-05-20 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/20/09 9:18 AM, Roy Phillips phill...@btinternet.com wrote: Mark Thanks for your comments. I suspect that there was a period when the Papst fan was the de facto standard in many equipments, it has considerable depth and obviously moves a lot of air. There is no real correlation

Re: [time-nuts] Msg to N.Z. time nuts

2009-05-19 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/19/09 1:15 PM, Russell Rezaian rreza...@motorola.com wrote: At 12:58 PM -0700 2009/05/19, Hal Murray wrote: USB has a bad reputation, but I think it's way way overblown. Yes, it's polled, but that polling is done in hardware and the time scale is 1 ms. If you are satisfied with an

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-18 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/18/09 1:12 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com said: I need to go back and read what you are trying to measure with your clock. Is it internal to the computer or an external event ? I was thinking of a FPGA on a PCI bus. It has to be PCI

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-18 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/18/09 6:18 AM, Lux, James P james.p@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: On 5/18/09 1:12 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com said: I need to go back and read what you are trying to measure with your clock. Is it internal to the computer

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-17 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/16/09 10:00 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 20090517031525.292e7b...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net, Hal Murr ay writes: This is one of the reasons why I was looking for a low-cost FPGA on PCI board with some way to get a couple of external inputs.

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-17 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/17/09 9:24 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: In which case, if you're saddled with 32 bit (or 8 bit!) reads, you have to do multiple reads, so that by the end of the process, you can assure yourself it's consistent. E.g read high, read low, read high, read low So you

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/16/09 8:04 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Bob Paddock wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Why do you think Minix-III would be a good candidate for a time server? Minix-III is based on the microkernel approach of keeping

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/16/09 1:43 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I have no idea how the timing code is in minix3, but I do know how much time it took me and subsequently Warner to get it right and good in FreeBSD. Given that minix was written by a CS professor who

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/16/09 4:30 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Lux, James P wrote: I think there is more use of microkernels (eCos, RTEMS, Erlang, etc.) in the embedded world. The environment is more constrained, so reducing the footprint is useful. That's just it, it doesn't reduce

Re: [time-nuts] FreeBSD, NetBSD, or Minix-III?

2009-05-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/16/09 4:32 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Lux, James P wrote: I don't believe that will be happening in a message passing microkernel (like minix) anytime soon... unless you build all of the timekeeping software into the kernel, and then you are in the process

[time-nuts] GPS-audio interface

2009-05-10 Thread Lux, James P
I'm looking for a way to take GPS time and generate a signal that can be recorded on the audio track of a video recording to time stamp it. This is so it can be aligned with other data that's collected with GPS based time. It needs to be portable/small (i.e. Something you could attach to a

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-audio interface

2009-05-10 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/10/09 11:21 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Lux, James P skrev: I'm looking for a way to take GPS time and generate a signal that can be recorded on the audio track of a video recording to time stamp it. This is so it can be aligned with other data that's

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-audio interface

2009-05-10 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/10/09 12:10 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: As a model for what they're trying to do, say you were going to measure the acceleration due to gravity by videotaping a falling object against a scale in the background. Except that the motion is more complex.. Maybe

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-audio interface

2009-05-10 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/10/09 12:15 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi James: You might want to get a KIWI-OSD, Video overlay of GPS precision time stamp. It adds HH:MM:SS FF at the bottom of the image and so can be seen in every field. They have also developed a way to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-audio interface

2009-05-10 Thread Lux, James P
On 5/10/09 4:26 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Lux, James P skrev: On 5/10/09 12:15 PM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi James: You might want to get a KIWI-OSD, Video overlay of GPS precision time stamp. It adds HH:MM:SS FF

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Divider

2009-04-02 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Divider Hal Murray wrote: LVDS

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Divider

2009-04-02 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:00 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Divider Hal Murray wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Advanced Crystal Oscillator Design By Benjaminson

2009-03-26 Thread Lux, James P
Try http://www.dtic.mil/ rather than NTIS. James Lux, P.E. Task Manager, SOMD Software Defined Radios Flight Communications Systems Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Mail Stop 161-213 Pasadena, CA, 91109 +1(818)354-2075 phone +1(818)393-6875 fax -Original

Re: [time-nuts] GPS IIR-20 Launched

2009-03-24 Thread Lux, James P
I see that jargon and a combination of business and space 'speak' is still something that goes on. For instance is a unified Delta II and GPS team that sustained a laser focus on mission success just two groups who worked together to make sure that the 'stuff' worked? A manager I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS IIR-20 Launched

2009-03-24 Thread Lux, James P
Ah, stakeholders, what's the definition of a stakeholder? The dead vampire. Like you say, can I sign up for, and then only pay for, the bronze standard, if that is all I really need? I believe Galileo has a pay for performance model as part of their public/private partnership. For

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Lux, James P
On 3/17/09 10:35 PM, Rich and Marcia Putz rp...@bnin.net wrote: Thanks John, yes I'm real. The 1978 date is correct, I'm looking for the article to quote. Prior to the decree, France maintained a roughly twelve and a half minute offset. I always was struck by this as the BIPM is located in

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis Oneto Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:14 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset BIPM is an

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sokolov Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:56 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset Lux, James P james.p@jpl.nasa.gov wrote

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Lux, James P
Actually, there this paper: http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/seago.pdf says that the delta was 9 minutes and 20 seconds (see page 10) Historic Universal Time (GMT) in France. Warner 9 min 20 sec = 9.333 mins = 0.155 hours = 2.33 degrees of longitude = 2 deg 20 min longitude

Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset

2009-03-18 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:11 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] French Time offset Lux, James P skrev

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Lux, James P
On 3/17/09 5:58 AM, Arnold Tibus arnold.ti...@gmx.de wrote: Interesting facts: The GPS navigation system has GPS Time as its basis. Galileo will have TAI as its basis. GLONASS has UTC as its basis, Air traffic controllers are using UTC. The latter is probably because air traffic control

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Lux, James P
am, Lux, James P wrote: The latter is probably because air traffic control is basically done at a resolution of 1 minute (e.g. Hold at SADLE intersection, expect release at 32[minutes after the hour]) so the several second offset between UTC and GPS is immaterial. You're looking

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-16 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks According to

Re: [time-nuts] Shrinking Atomic Clocks

2009-03-15 Thread Lux, James P
On 3/15/09 2:46 PM, Thomas A. Frank ka2...@cox.net wrote: Time to shrink the atomic clock 14 March 2009 by Anil Ananthaswamy Magazine issue 2699. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. ATOMIC clocks, currently the size of fridges, could shrink to the microscale thanks to a new way of

Re: [time-nuts] Reverse isolation

2009-03-08 Thread Lux, James P
Actually, it depends on the distance from the hot carrier, the amplitude of the hot carrier and the particular VNA in question. My VNA allows me to change filters as well as integration time. And especially, where is the selectivity in the VNA's receiver? You might have a 10 Hz filter,

Re: [time-nuts] Reverse isolation

2009-03-08 Thread Lux, James P
PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Best isolation is via a piece of fiber optics. Don Bruce Griffiths Lux, James P wrote: Actually, it depends on the distance from the hot carrier, the amplitude of the hot carrier and the particular VNA in question. My VNA allows me to change filters

Re: [time-nuts] Big bang theory

2009-03-04 Thread Lux, James P
A professor of what? Medieval literaturegrin Well, you never know -Original Message- From: Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: 3/4/09 04:38 Subject: [time-nuts] Big bang theory Has anyone here watched

Re: [time-nuts] GPS disciplined mechanical clocks

2009-03-04 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rooke Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:44 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS disciplined mechanical clocks 2009/3/5

Re: [time-nuts] Different Thunderbolt versions

2009-02-21 Thread Lux, James P
On 2/21/09 5:20 PM, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: For observations at 1420MHz, and short integration times (~ 100sec) the phase error needs to be 100ps or less. For longer integration times (10,000 sec is desirable) and higher frequencies the timing

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt power supply open heart surgery

2009-02-17 Thread Lux, James P
On 2/17/09 2:38 AM, Neville Michie namic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, you may have a problem similar to mine. In Sydney, with a nominal supply voltage of 240 Volts, the supply at my place is above 250 volts. The supply authority says that is in the limits of their specification.

Re: [time-nuts] Canada's 5,000 year old calendar

2009-01-30 Thread Lux, James P
On 1/29/09 5:13 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: M. Warner Losh skrev: In message: 25630a120901291622l5cc165ecna06e01cc3de52...@mail.gmail.com michael taylor mct...@gmail.com writes: : An academic maverick is challenging conventional wisdom on Canada's :

Re: [time-nuts] Home made GPS disciplined atomic clock

2009-01-27 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Esa Heikkinen Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:46 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Home made GPS disciplined atomic clock Its

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Lux, James P
More realistically, the dangeris dust when something is physically overstressed (dropped, mounting overtightened, thermal shock). That, and if it gets ground up in trash disposal... Say someone throws it in the shredder. -Original Message- From: Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com To:

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 1/16/09 12:34 PM, M. Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: But what about the Beryllium Sphere? What happens when you activate that? Warner The sphere merely provides the power for the Omega 13. That's what gets activated. And now that you mention such things, the Omega 13 has effects

Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB

2009-01-14 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:58 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWV / WWVH / WWVB Kind of a shame they

Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards

2009-01-13 Thread Lux, James P
optical media, the latter being attractive in further isolating PC noise from any measurement setup. And of course, a manufacturer's evaluation board is much better documented and more suited to measurement-specific mods than a random sound card. The optical link commonly being used for

Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards

2009-01-13 Thread Lux, James P
The optical link commonly being used for S/P-DIF is TosLink and it seems like it can be the cause of many problems. It seems like some care in doing the optical link setup is needed. I have never digged into why the optical links have that problem. I can only guess, but bad optical

Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards

2009-01-13 Thread Lux, James P
Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:01 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards L Consumer audio optical links (TOSlink)

Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards

2009-01-13 Thread Lux, James P
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:24 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Sound cards I haven't worked with plastic fibers. I'd expect the

Re: [time-nuts] Standards sought for immunity of shielded cable links to power-frequency ground loops

2009-01-10 Thread Lux, James P
Or 1553, for that matter -Original Message- From: David C. Partridge david.partri...@dsl.pipex.com Get 'em to use twin-ax (twisted pair inside screen) like the IBM AS/400 terminals (5250?) send differential signal down the cable. Dave ___

Re: [time-nuts] Enrico Rubiola's new book

2009-01-09 Thread Lux, James P
I like how you can get *Used* copies from Amazon for more than twice the brand new price (even from the exact same seller!). Surely some sort of artifact of the used book sellers' pricing algorithms. (or, maybe, you're paying for someone to buy the book new, open it up, scuff the covers a

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant

2009-01-08 Thread Lux, James P
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:51 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO time constant Hi Brooke, So you

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