Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance: DDS noise effect on 10 MHz

2012-02-04 Thread Rex
On 2/4/2012 12:17 AM, John Miles wrote: In the current 5680A units, the 10 MHz output comes from the 60 MHz VCXO (divided by 6 in CPLD) and not direct from a DDS. If my architecture understanding is right, the DDS signal output is mixed with the VCXO output only at the 114th harmonic of 60

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A programming connector pinout

2012-02-02 Thread Rex
Thanks guys! Updated Elio's picture with the additional info John provided. Revised picture posted here... http://www.xertech.net/FE5680A/FE-5680A_annotated_2.jpg Let me know if I got anything wrong. Elio, feel free to update your original if you want to keep control of it. -Rex On 2/1

Re: [time-nuts] TM 5680-0211 for 5680A series Rubidiums

2012-02-01 Thread Rex
Chris, Pretty sure (I haven't downloaded it again to verify) that the version you found is TM0110-2 which has been available for quite a long time. Rob's and the Russian version seem to be TM 5680-0211 as stated in the title. As Bob points out, they are not the same, although the 0211

Re: [time-nuts] Things to look for when buying a few FE-5680A's?

2012-01-25 Thread Rex
On 1/22/2012 9:49 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: The current batch of (about) $40 units are different from what was available a year ago. These new ones require 5V DC input in addition to 15V and can only be programmed via RS232 a few Hz away from 10MHz. So they are only good for use as a 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] hijacking threads

2012-01-23 Thread Rex
On 1/23/2012 1:04 AM, gary wrote: On Thunderbird, it looks like a fresh thread. You mean Thunderbird the mail program or that you're on Thunderbird the cheap wine? I'm viewing the list in Thunderbird 3.xx as I reply, and your [time-nuts] ntpq output is quite clearly attached in the thread

[time-nuts] FE-5680A Board - heatsink

2012-01-18 Thread Rex
Back in 2005 I got one of the FE-5680A rubidiums. The one I got came on the full original circuit board. I thought I would make up a PDF to show what the original board looked like and the kind of heat sink they mounted it on. The board is large and has about 140 sq in of almost solid ground

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Board - heatsink

2012-01-18 Thread Rex
On 1/18/2012 7:35 PM, Peter Bell wrote: Just out of interest, did you remove the connector and the faceplate or was the board shipped to you like that? The board had no faceplate when I got it, and from the PDF, The connector was broken and has been removed for these pictures. The board I

Re: [time-nuts] Adding adjustment pot to 5680

2012-01-15 Thread Rex
I have read about the EFC mod for the 5680A by Bill Riches and adapted for external by Arthur Dent. Nice work. Maybe I missed a detail in all the recent messages -- Question: Has anyone measured or calculated the tuning sensitivity of the pin-5 EFC voltage? (Hz/V number)

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5650A Option CPOM Information

2012-01-13 Thread Rex
Here's a start: http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/fei5650a/ Then: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:rubidium_oscillators Then google: 5650A site:febo.com On 1/13/2012 5:41 PM, Rich (Buckeye) wrote: Looking for FE-5650A Rubidium Frequency Standard Information. I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Need datasheets on photomultiplier tubes

2012-01-12 Thread Rex
/industryscience/pdf/pmt/ doesn't work at all. I'm not saying your methods are wrong (site seems generally helpful) but google and phontonis seem not to be in sync on these docs. -Rex On 1/10/2012 7:49 PM, Rex wrote: You might want to join this Yahoo group where the question would be more on-topic

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A Mechanical Question

2012-01-12 Thread Rex
I think we really need a FAQ, particularly for the 5680A. Maybe Didier would provide a place. (Or is it already there?) How many times, just in the last month or so, have the same questions been thrashed over and over again? - Pinouts - versions - reverse engineering wheel reinvention -

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Need datasheets on photomultiplier tubes

2012-01-10 Thread Rex
that sticking a B on the end of some Lastek broken link names might work and found... XP3312B.pdf XP3212B.pdf XP5312B.pdf I couldn't find XP5212 but looking at the Lastek page, it may be similar to 5292 which I found as... XP5292B.pdf HTH -Rex, KK6MK On 1/10/2012 5:37 PM, ed breya wrote: I just

Re: [time-nuts] ancient OCXO info on HP 05110-6043 needed

2011-12-26 Thread Rex
The description sounds the same as the crystal oven in a 5245L counter. Part number for one I have is 5243A-69A. I suspect the operation may be the same if you can find docs for the 5245 counter. The crystal is 1 MHz and the oscillator circuit was external to the oven unit connected through

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Rex
FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is for consideration... http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759s=2 Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A. On

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb

2011-12-14 Thread Rex
I don't think the strange oscillator is part of the Rb board. I have a full board from a purchase a number of years back. There are no gold fingers; it has a big square multi-pin connector. The board is 20 inches long and has only a few interfacing chips on it and a LED. I'd say the board is

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb

2011-12-14 Thread Rex
On 12/14/2011 5:20 PM, Steve . wrote: Looks to me like 63.8976mhz (63,897,600hz) is divisible by two. Using a counter to make a clock distribution system etc. With that in mind i could use this in all sorts of projects. Steve Hmm... 63897600 = 0x3CF. Pretty clean hex number with those

Re: [time-nuts] Why these Crystal Frequencies?

2011-12-14 Thread Rex
Brooke, 14.31818 is 4x the analog color burst (~3.58) 18.432 divides cleanly for baud rates. I've used it as a PIC clock for that. I think some of the others may be too, but I didn't recognize or do the math to see. On 12/14/2011 7:13 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Pete: Maybe you can

Re: [time-nuts] FE 5680A Warning

2011-11-12 Thread Rex
On 11/12/2011 9:46 AM, Don Latham wrote: I just bought a couple of 5680A's that have the same FEI p/n. They are pop-riveted to a heavy double-sided board., obviously cut off from a longer board. I think those pop-rivets are actually screws with a small hex socket in the center. That's what

[time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-25 Thread Rex
Bob, You did the opposite of the thread splitting, just discussed; you tagged your message onto an unrelated thread. Manuals for the 5370 are not hard to find. From a service manual I found: 3-22. Error messages Error 2 - Data out of range (overrange).

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for a Counter

2011-10-07 Thread Rex
On 10/7/2011 8:26 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: I bought two HP 5334B on ebay for under $100 each (that was a couple of years ago). Nice counter, with GPIB. Didier KO4BB And no fans in the 5334, so quiet. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Averaging Location for Position Hold

2011-09-13 Thread Rex Moncur
or is the position defined solely on the position of the antenna? Rex VK7MO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Japan Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days, Moved Axis

2011-07-14 Thread Rex
On 7/14/2011 2:02 PM, Steve Rooke wrote: Well, if everyonel climbed Everest and we all jumped up and down together, perhaps we could achieve that :) Cheers, Steve I can't resist moving this off-topic thread by a giant leap. I have a 1969 R. Crumb comic book starring Fritz the Cat. In one

Re: [time-nuts] Any thoughts on best rubidium?

2011-07-10 Thread Rex
On the FE-5680A, there are quite a number of versions that have that number and look the same. Most run from one voltage input (+15V ? from memory) but some take that and a +5V to run. Most can be tuned with software, but the dual voltage one I got some years back -- I never found a way to

Re: [time-nuts] NERC/TEC test

2011-07-08 Thread Rex
On 7/8/2011 7:57 AM, Javier Herrero wrote: As a matter of curiosity... Am I the only time nut that does not wear a wrist watch? Or... perhaps I'm not a true time nut... :) Regards, Javier He he. Me too. Back when I used to wear a wrist watch, I found I would neurotically keep glancing at

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-09 Thread Rex
to work as I thought it should. Thanks for getting me to think about this again and finding a verification of my results with less random test equipment. On 6/9/2011 11:43 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 06/09/2011 07:30 PM, Peter Vince wrote: Hi Rex, You could try asking the guys

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-07 Thread Rex
- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Rex Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juni 2011 00:42 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering I forgot that I had a 50 ohm load on the scope end of my cable

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
further from playing with the nice new counter. Thanks for the feedback -- any more welcomed. -Rex On 6/5/2011 12:42 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: A Geiger Muller (GM) tube produces an output pulse as a result of an avalanche discharge in the gas filled tube initiated by the passage of ionising

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
an internal quenching gas (eg a halogen) or to use suitable circuitry to ensure the discharge terminates. Bruce Rex wrote: Bill and Bruce, Clearly, fixing the messed up signal is the proper approach. What you are missing is that I got a shiney new (for me) expensive hammer and I thought

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
it should be. There may well be a circuit fault. The circuit already includes a monostable. Bruce Rex wrote: We are getting pretty far afield of my original counter triggering question. As far as I know, any specific quenching is only necessary for achieving the highest counting rates which isn't

Re: [time-nuts] More on LightSquared

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
Someone in the industry said that it makes so little sense that there must be some other way for it (the proposal, not the technology) to work. The shorting financially is one way and the prime investor in L^2 is a major hedge fund. The other possibility I heard proposed by my friend is that

Re: [time-nuts] Clearest article yet on LightSquared's threat to GPS

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
Bill, Thanks for once again making one of the more useless and deluded posts I have seen recently. Keep up the consistent work. On 6/5/2011 8:05 AM, William H. Fite wrote: Thanks for a cleansing breath of fresh air, Charles. The paranoia and cynicism were reaching toxic levels. As

Re: [time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-05 Thread Rex
be a circuit fault. The circuit already includes a monostable. Bruce Rex wrote: We are getting pretty far afield of my original counter triggering question. As far as I know, any specific quenching is only necessary for achieving the highest counting rates which isn't involved in my measurements, so

[time-nuts] Fluke PM6681 triggering

2011-06-04 Thread Rex
I recently picked up a Fluke PM6681 counter (same as a Pendulum CNT-81). Looks like a sweet device. I was just trying to use it for a not-so-much-timing purpose and was hoping to find an expert here who might help me with a triggering question. I just set it up to count total pulses, over a

Re: [time-nuts] IEEE Spectrum Magazine interviews one of our own...

2011-05-24 Thread Rex
Let's see if my mail client wraps the looong link too... http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/at-work/innovation/does-anybody-really-know-what-time-it-is/?utm_source=techalertutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=051911 I was expecting a video, but it's still nice as an mp3 On 5/24/2011 7:00 PM, Tom

Re: [time-nuts] Darn you people....

2011-05-03 Thread Rex
On 5/3/2011 9:16 AM, Bob Bownes wrote: First it was building a VE2ZAZ GPSDO with an 10881 I happened across. ... I suspect the 10881. :( I think you are stuttering on the wrong digit. You must mean the venerable 10811. ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] OT: At the Flea

2011-04-19 Thread Rex
On 4/19/2011 9:50 AM, Philip Pemberton wrote: Or dihydrogen monoxide? A high-school student won first prize in his science fair by circulating a report on the dangers of DHMO, then asking his peers what action (if any) should be taken (i.e. should it be banned?). 46 students called for a

Re: [time-nuts] HP5370 board needed

2011-04-12 Thread Rex
I don't think there was any bad intent in the changed email, but the point is that if the OT message was posted this way it will probably happen again. Email message headers contain a thread-index number. Any decent email program groups the messages into threads using this (normally hidden)

[time-nuts] Thread hijacking, etc.

2011-04-12 Thread Rex
In a previous thread, that I and others were totally corrupting by posting how not to do exactly what we were doing, Mike S replied to me... On 4/12/2011 1:53 PM, Mike S wrote: At 04:03 PM 4/12/2011, Rex wrote... Email message headers contain a thread-index number. Any decent email program

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A word of caution

2011-04-07 Thread Rex
On 4/7/2011 8:09 AM, cook michael wrote: Le 07/04/2011 16:20, Jerry a écrit : The 10 MHz output is not close to the expected frequency tolerance. The first of the units that I received puts out a signal at 9,999,945 Hz. The vendor then sent a second unit which puts out a signal at 10,000,025

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PPS clock pulse ?

2011-03-28 Thread Rex
On 3/28/2011 9:46 AM, Lenny Story wrote: Greetings, Is there an accepted form for the PPS clock pulses that are produced by the various time equipment in use today ? Short answer -- No. Examples: HP GPSDOs like 3801A and 3816A have a positive-going square pulse that is 10's of

Re: [time-nuts] * * * BOB CAMP - YOUR POLLS * * *

2011-03-26 Thread Rex
Knowing that I somewhat contradict myself by posting, I agree with Bill. Anyone who is capable of contemplating projects with such high-tech parts ought to be able to find a way to conduct a poll that doesn't require hundreds of people seeing every response over a period of several days.

Re: [time-nuts] FE5860A CONNECTIONS

2011-03-15 Thread Rex
a command from an external source to initiate that programming, or whether it happens at power-on (perhaps with the clocking of the serial EPROM by the FE-5680A itself?). I read that Rex and Brian Kirby have figured out that the unit needs a +5V supply (or perhaps just a logic input) in addition

Re: [time-nuts] FE5860A CONNECTIONS

2011-03-14 Thread Rex
Not completely true. They are not invariably single supply. This subject seems to come up at least once a year. Usually, I provide this information and apparently some don't believe me. As you say, there are many 5680A variants. I had one I obtained several years back that definitely needed

Re: [time-nuts] Datum Handbook of Time Code Formats

2011-03-11 Thread Rex
On 3/11/2011 9:14 PM, J. Forster wrote: How big is the file? -John === It's about 25 MB. Took several minutes to get (after the delay) with my DSL connection. I think this was my first RapidShare download, but it worked for me. In case it matters, I'm running XP and Firefox

Re: [time-nuts] Partridge Divider Board

2011-02-28 Thread Rex
On the taiko-denki plugs/sockets, FWIW... I was just calibrating one of my ham receivers. One of the steps involved removing one of these taiko-denki 204 connector cables and measuring the frequency out of the socket. With calipers, I measured the plug dimensions and discovered that the

Re: [time-nuts] 2nd 5370B

2011-02-11 Thread Rex
On 2/11/2011 1:00 PM, paul swed wrote: Then soap and water with elbow grease and they look like new and work well. Regards Paul. I like automobile bug and tar remover for cleaning external panels on old equipment. It is a moderate solvent. I've never seen it damage paint but is strong

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A

2011-02-06 Thread Rex
On 2/6/2011 9:57 AM, Murray Greenman wrote: there should not be a 5V input required on the 5680A. There are MANY versions of 5680A. Some definitely do need 5 V input to work. From this thread, apparently on the ones that do need 5 V input, different versions even use different pins for this

Re: [time-nuts] Check out my photos on Facebook

2011-02-04 Thread Rex
On 2/4/2011 6:37 PM, Stanley Reynolds wrote: Hi Time-nuts, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Stanley

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: Lightsquared and a little math

2011-02-04 Thread Rex
On 2/4/2011 7:31 PM, William H. Fite wrote: Actually, Perrier, Bill On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Perry Sandeensandee...@yahoo.com wrote: List, Wrote: the stadium lights Janet Neapolitan liberals and conservatives Drudge Report Regards, Perrier PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP!!! NOT

Re: [time-nuts] From GPS World - Lightsquared has been given the goahead

2011-02-02 Thread Rex
On 2/2/2011 2:29 PM, bownes wrote: Of the 2 lc orgs I administer or am a member of, and the roughly 8 other lc orgs I interact with on a regular basis, only one uses lc certified gps equip. The others are all consumer grade or don't use gps. However, a slew of filings and letters from the lc

Re: [time-nuts] counter

2011-01-30 Thread Rex
On 1/30/2011 12:33 AM, cook michael wrote: as list members were indicating that 5370Bs were to be picked up for 200 bucks. Not so in France I am afraid. I have not been able to find anything under 5 times that over here. I questioned that, relative to my experience. Miracles do happen, but

Re: [time-nuts] An (unknown?) nasty feature of the DDS principle for time nuts applications

2011-01-25 Thread Rex
On 1/25/2011 1:26 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: Am 25.01.2011 15:35, schrieb Ulrich Bangert: see page 8.6ff of the service manual to see that the HP3325 is not DDS based but uses a Fractional N Synthesizer scheme which is something completely different and is not prone to the described effects.

Re: [time-nuts] New clock

2011-01-19 Thread Rex
On 1/19/2011 11:39 AM, lstosk...@cox.net wrote: Have an extra $1,500? http://www.symmetricom.com/products/frequency-references/chip-scale-atomic-clock-csac/SA.45s-CSAC/ N0UU Did you miss the many earlier messages on this list? They actually had a PR blurb about this on the local TV news

Re: [time-nuts] No State Of The Art Counter

2011-01-10 Thread Rex
this opportunity to thank these people and the many others who make their time, knowledge and resources available to support our time-nuttery. -Rex ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin

Re: [time-nuts] Rohde Schwarz Midget Crystal Clock / Frequency Standard XSZ

2010-12-28 Thread Rex
On 12/28/2010 4:57 PM, Graham / KE9H wrote: On 12/28/2010 5:59 PM, Adrian wrote: Now as we're talking wrist watches and other toys.. I'm wondering who might have acquired that ol' piece of time-nuttiness: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220713930052 Adrian == I would sure

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Frequency counter recommendation

2010-12-20 Thread Rex
Why worry, Just get Bob C to sell you one of his several $200 5370A/B's for a reasonable $100 profit (plus shipping) and you'll beat anything I've seen on eBay in the last year. Everyone should be happy. Bob can can take the profit then (soon) easily get another to replace it at his perceived

Re: [time-nuts] Compairing two GPSDOs Oscillators

2010-11-14 Thread Rex
It's not easy to find decent prices these days. I finally got an 8662A at a price I was willing to pay, but that was after watching listings for a year or more. In the rare case where a good unit gets listed at a reasonable price, the other guy who wants to sell it at X usually bids against

Re: [time-nuts] ADEV

2010-11-14 Thread Rex
On 11/14/2010 7:24 PM, David I. Emery wrote: 3. External reference LNBs with 10 MHz (pretty universal) going up the cable that also carries power and brings the L band signal down. I'm not entirely sure how many of these designs simply bandpass filter and then limit the 10 MHz and use that

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801 Life time

2010-11-03 Thread Rex
I never saw the original message because, apparently, it was off-topic posted in one of the noisy threads I was deleting. But anyway... From the similar GPS 58503B manual: :DIAGnostic:LIFetime:COUNt? RESPONSE Returns the lifetime count, indicating the total powered-on time. Range of the

[time-nuts] Group S/N

2010-11-01 Thread Rex
chaff to get to the wheat. Many times I'm not sure if I missed something good in that slash and burn. A couple of years ago that was less necessary, and (my opinion) I liked it better. -Rex ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/Dymec DY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-11 Thread Rex
The ability to easily do this kind of graphics stuff (scanning and printing) at an affordable price is one of the few recent innovations that I appreciate over the great design and longevity in older tech equipment. Meld the two = win-win. On 10/11/2010 5:22 PM, paul swed wrote: Thanks

Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

2010-10-08 Thread Rex
You mean near the intersection of 401 and 537? Close to 385 also. (I took the liberty of keeping up the code and adding 300 to everything.) -Rex On 10/8/2010 6:26 PM, J. Forster wrote: Where? Off 401 near the Blue Cube? -John = We had similar dome in Sunnyvale (Ca)Â until

Re: [time-nuts] Upgrading old Thunderbolt?

2010-09-24 Thread Rex
On 9/24/2010 5:15 PM, WarrenS wrote: David It would be worth while to first see what is wrong, if anything, with what you now have. Too logical. This could stall two country's economies. Why measure actual performance of your current model when you can take input from others to learn you

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about HP 5370B

2010-09-14 Thread Rex
On 9/14/2010 8:28 AM, Dan Rae wrote: I hate to disagree with John who knows a heck of lot more than I ever will, but in this case it will protect the oven from cooking up if the control circuit fails with the heater full on, which can happen. I did have a 5370B with a 10811 that had a bad

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone have a comparison of the Z3805A and a Tbolt?

2010-09-07 Thread Rex
to. My Z3805A is marked Samsung, as are all the ones I see coming from China. The current price seems to be more like $350 than $250 for the ones left. I think $350 is about what I paid for my Z3805A a bit over a year, or so, back. -Rex On 9/7/2010 4:34 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi The bad units

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone have a comparison of the Z3805A and a Tbolt?

2010-09-07 Thread Rex
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:56 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone have a comparison of the Z3805A and a Tbolt? Bob, I wonder if you are really talking about Z3805A's

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for High Q ceramic cylinders

2010-09-03 Thread Rex
(Ceramic resonators) Maybe Trans-Tech http://www.trans-techinc.com/products_detail.asp?ID=2 On 9/2/2010 5:54 PM, Peter Krengel wrote: Hello, I'm looking for manufactors/distributors of High Q (high Epsilon r) ceramic materials. Best would be cylindrical forms of ~ 10-30mm diameter. Has

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)

2010-08-02 Thread Rex
On 8/1/2010 11:08 PM, John Miles wrote: If you live in the US, you might consider writing to your legislators to try to educate them on the economic effects of software patents. You can also contribute your thoughts on post-'Bilski' patentability to the USPTO here:

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)

2010-08-02 Thread Rex
On 8/2/2010 1:55 AM, David C. Partridge wrote: At long last, an outbreak of sanity in an insane world. Regards, David Partridge I agree. For some reason I had the impression that the ruling had gone more the other way. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] 74AC175PC

2010-08-02 Thread Rex
On 8/2/2010 8:58 AM, Mike Feher wrote: Stanley - I know this has been a long thread, but, either I missed the beginning or forgot. What is it that the board you are selling actually does? Thanks - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)

2010-08-01 Thread Rex
I have a couple notebooks with PCMCIA (AKA PC Card) slots. A few years back I got an NI card on eBay. Probably harder to find than a PCI card and possibly more expensive, but it is one more option that should be compatible with all the software. Doesn't need a full sized PC too. It is one

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A Option 040

2010-07-28 Thread Rex
From a 1993 HP Catalog: HP5335A Option 40 Expanded HP-IB Control Adds remote selection of low-pass filter, ac/dc coupling, attenuator, dc triggering level, and input impedance for Channels A and B. On 7/28/2010 7:24 PM, Gordon Batey wrote: Greetings to the timekeepers. I have enjoyed

Re: [time-nuts] Handy iPhone app

2010-07-18 Thread Rex
Thomas A. Frank wrote: On Jul 16, 2010, at 4:08 AM, Peter Monta wrote: Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: I just eyeballed the minute turn-over but it was clearly within about a second. Well, apparently it is a phone issue and not a cell-tower issue. Searching the support forums yields

Re: [time-nuts] Handy iPhone app

2010-07-16 Thread Rex
. Good enough for me on my phone. So, at least here where I am, ATT time is not off by even a couple seconds. Maybe the issue is another iPhone problem. Do you have any friends on ATT with Motorola phones you can compare? -Rex Peter Monta wrote: Here in the Bay Area, ATT/iPhone time has gotten

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola GPS Z3801A

2010-06-01 Thread Rex
Robert Benward wrote: Hi, Does anyone have the pinouts for the Motorola GPS within the Z3801A? It's a ten pin header and I would like to intercept the data stream to see if it's working. Also, I read about some of the Motorolas putting out binary data, not NEMA protocol. Thanks, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola GPS Z3801A

2010-06-01 Thread Rex
between each other. The time order in which these references were produced (older to newer) is: 3801, 3816, 3805. That aligns with the different GPS receivers that were used inside. Robert Benward wrote: Hi Rex, One more question: I understand some of the Z3801A were equipped

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-24 Thread Rex
Robert Benward wrote: Checked wires, measured voltages, -0.5 and +2.0 on TX and RX. Bob That does sound very odd if it is RS232. Have you measured these voltages out of the Z38xx unit into just an open cable? That would take any driving or loading from the PC-end serial port out of the

Re: [time-nuts] Furno GPS Rcvr, Was: no subject)

2010-05-24 Thread Rex
be done here, but with completely different parsing. Steve Rooke wrote: Hi Rex, On 25 May 2010 08:32, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: Steve, If the Furuno pdf's , you have, are more than just the sales fluff, I'd suggest you upload the files to Didier's web pages http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-23 Thread Rex
found what I have used. -Rex Robert Benward wrote: Thank you all for these inputs! Most importantly, the big question is: Regardless of RS-232 or 422, will the unit do ANYTHING without communications? Do I need a computer to get anything beyond the power led? I bought this at the Dayton

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-05-21 Thread Rex
Robert Benward wrote: Hi, I just purchased a Z3805A at the Dayton hamfest this past weekend. How do I get it to work? Do I need software to run this, or can it run stand alone. I have turned it on, but only the power light comes on, the GPS lock, and more importantly, the enable light is

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-05-21 Thread Rex
documentation and command reference docs on the net. Hope that helps a bit. -Rex Robert Benward wrote: Hi, I just purchased a Z3805A at the Dayton hamfest this past weekend. How do I get it to work? Do I need software to run this, or can it run stand alone. I have turned it on, but only the power

Re: [time-nuts] oscillator choice question (ND100M)

2010-05-03 Thread Rex
Chris, your links don't work. ch...@yipyap.com wrote: just for show-and-tell: ... I have four rough pictures. www.yipyap.com/radio_stuff/ND100M/One.pdf is right (rear) end of the component side. www.yipyap.com/radio_stuff/ND100M/Four.pdf is the left (front) end of the component side.

Re: [time-nuts] Naval Jelly at home depot 25-35% Phosphoric acid

2010-04-11 Thread Rex
I mentioned in an earlier thread that I found Jasco Prep and Primer at Home Depot, but that was several years back. I don't know if it is still stocked. The stuff is a blue-green liquid and mostly phosphoric acid. The naval jelly that I have seen actually was a jelly so it would stick better

Re: [time-nuts] New Most Accurate Clock

2010-04-01 Thread Rex
I just realized that the recent big transfers of money from Washington DC to Wall Street must have been a large-scale test of the MANA system. -Rex... heading to Home Depot to find a large container I can adapt into a MANA antenna. Tom Van Baak wrote: I used the new google today and found

Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Rex
jimlux wrote: Scott Burris wrote: CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte: http://www.candhsurplus.com/ At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but they declined to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it out to movie studios.

Re: [time-nuts] What time is it anyway?

2010-03-28 Thread Rex
Steve Rooke wrote: What puzzles me is who is the keeper of legal time for the other 93.4% of land mass and 95.5% of population of the World other than the US. Just curious where you got those percentage numbers? A quick check says they are in the ball park, but wondering where you got

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A - phosphoric acid

2010-03-21 Thread Rex
paul swed wrote: Were do you obtain a small amount of phosphoric acid Also when I looked it up they said it was H3PO4. Doesn't sound like the same. Is there a common use for it? I bought a quart a while ago at Home Depot in the paint section. Jasco Prep and Primer for metal - a liquid.

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A

2010-03-10 Thread Rex
Bob Camp wrote: Hi Like pretty much every other rubidium on the planet - no, not as far as I know. Most of the test points and adjustments are of the even if we told you, you aren't set up to use it nature. Put another way, they would have to provide a lot of proprietary information to enable

Re: [time-nuts] Achieving maximum performance when driving 5370A/Binputs

2010-02-28 Thread Rex
Don Latham wrote: I've fixed shafts like this carefully with plastic swizzle sticks and super glue. Did I say carefully? a little dab'll do ya... Don It is a tricky business. The 5370A I got a while back, had what was left of the shaft glued into the bushing by an earlier repair attempt.

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS Receivers, ( V1.80)

2010-02-22 Thread Rex
listings. BTW, in the name fluke.l, the letter after the '.' is lower case L, not one (as has been mistyped on recent postings.) Unless you enjoy the challenge of reinventing this GPS-timing wheel, I'd suggest buying one of these reasonably priced units. -Rex ashle...@aol.com wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Injection locking

2010-02-11 Thread Rex
Kit Scally wrote: ... On a related topic, I found some while ago - and promptly lost - a graph/chart showing harmonic level variations with varying duty-cycle of an input waveform. This was to some degree a graphical representation of the Wenzel document referenced by Bruce recently. Has

Re: [time-nuts] Test Equipment

2010-01-23 Thread Rex
paul swed wrote: It also helps to simply clean the stuff. A bit of soap and water and scrubbing gets years of grunge off. I have found that Bug and Tar Remover, sold to clean cars, works well on front panels. It seems to be strong enough to soften label gunk, but not strong enough to mar

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HeyWhatsThat: January 15 Solar Eclipse

2010-01-15 Thread Rex
-in programs and anti-virus to see if I can find a conflict. Geraldo Lino de Campos wrote: It works fine for me. Windows XP SP2, Firefox 3.5.7, DELL Inspiron 1525. Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:50:15 -0800 From: Rex r...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FW: HeyWhatsThat: January 15

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HeyWhatsThat: January 15 Solar Eclipse

2010-01-15 Thread Rex
again, but I never saw the horrible hanging condition that I had before. So it is slightly puzzling why I never saw that again, but I did find a solution, so I won't worry about any fine points of problem explanation. -Rex John Allen wrote: Hi Rex - I suspect that you have a video driver bug

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HeyWhatsThat: January 15 Solar Eclipse

2010-01-14 Thread Rex
be running this tool. Do you have any connection to the page owner? Can you pass this report on? -Rex John Allen wrote: Hi Rex, sorry to hear that. Apparently the page uses a new Google Earth plugin (For Firefox). Google Earth is known for it's demands on hardware, particularly Graphics memory

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HeyWhatsThat: January 15 Solar Eclipse

2010-01-13 Thread Rex
The link doesn't play nice on my machine. The page opens in Firefox browser and shows some simple graphic of the earth with some clickable spots (I think). Then I see a message from my firewall that Google Earth is going out to the internet and all goes weird. The page gets new grainy overlays

Re: [time-nuts] I think I've become a Volt nut too.

2010-01-12 Thread Rex
Were you guys around (about a year back, I think) when this reference was mentioned? http://www.voltagestandard.com/ Seems like excellent price/performance to me. I see he has a more accurate, more expensive model too. paul swed wrote: Wow thats a nice chip indeed On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at

Re: [time-nuts] Digital Clock kit - no Integrated circuits!

2010-01-09 Thread Rex
Steve Rooke wrote: Bah humbug! Stupid modern day design, it'll never be any good, you need to use valves to make real gear :-) Steve Being an Amurkan myself, by valves, I assume you are talking about a hydraulic clock. Yep. That's pretty old school. But we could step back to sundials or

Re: [time-nuts] Help!! Utility for Z3801A control - Thanks!

2010-01-02 Thread Rex
Just for the record, here is a web page that may have helped: http://www.realhamradio.com/gps-satstat-software.htm I'd also recommend that you check out Ulrich's Z38XX program, as Brian recommended. dave powis wrote: Many thanks to those who've responded so quickly! Please don't waste any

Re: [time-nuts] Cheap Rubidium (heatpipe cooling for)

2009-12-25 Thread Rex
Bob Camp wrote: One tradeoff is weather heavy cooling of the water (5C) makes sense or not. I think weather cooling is much too unstable and unpredictable. Especially with global warming. :-) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

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