Re: [time-nuts] Another GPSDO

2014-12-09 Thread paul swed
Joe since the lucents are most likely NOS you will need to let it cook in 30 days. I now have two units and they do match up well to the 3801. But they did need to age. Just a heads up. It is nice to see them line up pretty well. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Joseph Gray jg

Re: [time-nuts] Nortel Trimble GPSDO

2014-12-09 Thread paul swed
Time-nuts miss an ebay opportunity? Can't imagine that. I suspect we are all very happy with the brand new lucents. I was lucky that a fellow Time-nut clued me in. I had seen the posts and ignored them as Just another GPSDO. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Joseph Gray jg

Re: [time-nuts] Another GPSDO

2014-12-09 Thread paul swed
Yes its pretty easy to get going especially with the details and help of fellow Time-nuts. Good luck. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Paul, Thanks for the info. I have been following most of the discussion on these units. I have even saved several posts

[time-nuts] Z38XX Ulrichs program question How do you restart the graphs.

2014-12-08 Thread paul swed
Boy I have dug through the program and can not seem to find a way to clear out the graphs. Tried exports and other things. Anyone know the secret please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX Ulrichs program question How do you restart the graphs.

2014-12-08 Thread paul swed
Thanks everyone. I thought I was missing the magical super secret ctl ... sequence. Regards Paul. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net wrote: Hi Paul, This puzzled me, too. Finally, I just deleted the txt file. Looking at, it, it looks like maybe it's a weekly file

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent / Z3810A log time offset.

2014-12-07 Thread Paul
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: They may have some odd setting deep in the scpi to get the log over to this or that time frame. I'd have thought that UTC would be the obvious choice. It also could just be a bug. Initially they were in sync. I hope this power

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent / Z3810A log time offset.

2014-12-07 Thread Paul
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Any time you have a power burp the clock will start back at what ever it thinks was the time was last. I understand this. I was referring to: Log 037:20141201.00:25:47: GPS reference valid at 20141202.01:47:41 Log

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent / Z3810A log time offset.

2014-12-07 Thread Paul
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: If the magic write the time to flash routine runs once every 2 hours, then that would explain the log. Numbers like 4 or 8 times a day are not uncommon for this sort of thing. I'm being unclear. If you look at a Z3811 log you'll

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent / Z3810A log time offset.

2014-12-07 Thread Paul
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: The local time is updated *after* the GPS Valid hits the log. Put another way, the time used for the log is *not* corrected to GPS time until after the valid message is logged. And I completely agree with you. My point is the

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread paul swed
Not aware of any testing plus it makes no sense these days. LORAN long ago abandoned and was in that range and Loran C in the US dead. UrsaNav has been quite for quite a while. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi 120 Hz sub structure suggests

[time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
frequency be off? I had read a tech note for the airforce that seems to indicate its pretty easy to get on to the wrong peak. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
can also set them on the wrong transition … (gulp). Peak wise, the one you want is the highest Q / best SNR. Set it to one of the others and your ADEV degrades. Transition wise … not a good idea at all. Bob On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:11 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I have

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
about 30 years since I dug into that, so I could easily be a bit confused there …. Bob On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:15 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Bob Thanks but can you actually see that on the frequency out at 5 Mhz. If on the wrong transition or peak shouldn't that translate

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
is the real issue the tube has always been so weak that you simply can't look at the i meter and see humps. What I had done a long time ago was add in another meter that was very sensitive and then use a magnifying glass to see the peaks. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
that was wrong. What I am looking at may be a drift thats far smaller the 1 LSD. I can't really tell. Regards On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Paul, On 12/06/2014 04:51 PM, paul swed wrote: Magnus Great but I am looking for very specific detail

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
Well a bad tube is a bad tube and thats been my story. Though for $125 how can I complain. But for $999 plus $79 shipping no interest at all. When the tubes used up its used up. Generally. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi If you toss a Rb

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
side peaks what would that make the offset at 5 MHz be?. I think something like 1 Khz divided by 9192631770. I am sure 5 MHz comes into the calculation. Pretty small. But may guess thats what I see. Its 44ns slow over 27 minutes as of yesterday. The systems been on 4 days. Paul, 40 kHz

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
All good answers with a good tube and enough current to read on the meter. But I am working at the very limit of the Cs fumes. There is current, about .5 to 1 tick mark on the meter of a 5061 using a 5060 tube. Thats the challenge on a very eol tube. Regards Paul. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:56 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
a lot of the physics and math. Now for $125, thats a pretty good education. Good luck and may the CS fumes be with you. Regards Paul WB8TSL/1 On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: On 6 December 2014 at 17:58, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
On 12/06/2014 08:16 PM, paul swed wrote: All good answers with a good tube and enough current to read on the meter. But I am working at the very limit of the Cs fumes. There is current, about .5 to 1 tick mark on the meter of a 5061 using a 5060 tube. Thats the challenge on a very eol tube

[time-nuts] Lucent / Z3810A log time offset.

2014-12-06 Thread Paul
I was curious about the six second difference between GPS valid on the two boxes. Is that likely just due to (message) processing overhead? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Did a member of time-nuts buy this?

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
Used to be quite a bit available at reasonable costs. But Ebay ended that ages ago. Even for bad stuff the dollars are very high. Granted some venders will take back items that do not work such as this one. But not always. And yes its not for business at all. Regards Paul On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 4

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
Slow by 44 ns in 27 minutes. -2.7 e-11 Regards Paul On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Yes, but what's the offset? Cheers, Magnus On 12/06/2014 10:12 PM, paul swed wrote: The system does consistently come to lock with a constant offset

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061Cs reference question

2014-12-06 Thread paul swed
and control takes over etc. I have tinkered with the c field. Maybe I need to get more aggressive. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Pete, Paul, You can always try increasing the Cs oven temperature. I'm told +10 C will double the beam

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite

2014-12-05 Thread paul swed
pipe and fiber optics are two different terms. Yes they both pass light. But a fiber optic is a precision glass or plastic waveguide. A light pipe is a bulk piece of plastic that is not a wave guide in respect to the accuracy of the walls. Oh I am so doomed now that I said that. Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-04 Thread paul swed
Ulrich, I think my threads been taken over again. I keep writing about modifications to the KS-24361 and the thread takes off in wild directions about other things like Morion oscillators and TBolts. I believe your question is to Bob perhaps on 1/f noise? Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Dec 4, 2014

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite

2014-12-04 Thread paul swed
it will do a re-survey. Frankly my units racked and stacked with dividers filters and line drivers for various frequencies I am using and its running very very smoothly. By the way at a huge power consumption of 1-3 watts. The power mete doesn't read well at this level. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Dec 4

Re: [time-nuts] Convert Stanford Research SR620 time-interval counter to SR625 ???

2014-12-03 Thread Paul
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Neil Schroeder gign...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't really ever been able to talk to my prs10 via serial I took the easy way out and bought the interface board (directly from SRS). ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] 10 MHz oscillators vs 100 MHZ

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
Ulrich Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Neil Schroeder gign...@gmail.com wrote: Wenz will happily well you anything in stock. I just picked up my first original owner OCXO - a 100mhz onyx. On Wednesday, December 3, 2014, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@gmail.com wrote: I think

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
. Mounting it and the power supply into a rack panel. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Convert Stanford Research SR620 time-interval counter to SR625 ???

2014-12-03 Thread Paul
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:54 PM, David I. Emery d...@dieconsulting.com wrote: Do you have any rough number as to what they charged you for this ? The price at the SRS store is $150. A great deal compared to $100 for a manual or heatsink. Granted the board is a bit more complex than a DE-9 and

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
Bob I agree with your comments. For the test gear on the bench this will be very fine. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Be careful when you do this. A signal with harmonics 20 db down and sub-harmonics 30 db down will make a fine

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann dk...@arcor.de wrote: Am 04.12.2014 um 00:04 schrieb paul swed: Have successfully tapped into the clean 10 MHz of the the Lucent and using a EL2020 50 Mhz current opamp have a very nice 10 Mhz sine wave out. Any spurs are down

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
J8 its unpopulated right next to the oven. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Doug Ronald d...@dougronald.com wrote: I may have missed this info in a previous post, but I am interested in tapping off the 5 MHz signal. I have my REF-1 apart, but don't have it powered. I

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
I have a pix of the point to tap. Its on the bottom of the board. Not sure I can skinny it down to fit Time Nuts has to be sub 100K. I will tinker tomorrow night and see if I can get it down. Regards On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:40 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: J8 its unpopulated right

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 10 Mhz out success.

2014-12-03 Thread paul swed
. The red coax feeds the old 15 MHz output after cutting the old trace on the bottom. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:42 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I have a pix of the point to tap. Its on the bottom of the board. Not sure I can skinny it down to fit Time Nuts has

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 15 Mhz and 10 Mhz

2014-12-01 Thread paul swed
the magical X+Y= 15 Mhz. So what are folks doing that just have ref 1s? Is this the discussion on buffering the 5 Mhz and doubling? Regards Paul​ On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Given the level of phase noise on the Ref-0 10 MHz output, I would not *want* to use

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, curious observation

2014-12-01 Thread Paul
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Graham planoph...@aei.ca wrote: It has been less than 18 hours since I powered them up so I am not yet wondering why the the REF-0 LED's are in the state they are as I have seen reports of others having to wait 24 hours or so before every locks in. There are

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 15 Mhz and 10 Mhz

2014-12-01 Thread paul swed
and then buffer and isolate it. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Yes, one of the “great unanswered questions” about the KS boxes is how to quickly and easily switch them from a nice clean (useless) 15 MHz output to a nice clean (useful) 10 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 15 Mhz and 10 Mhz

2014-12-01 Thread paul swed
the output system is just beyond that point. Sort of. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi My *guess* from looking at roughly how the circuit runs from the OCXO to the 15 MHz power amp and then over to the output connector: 1) There is a fairly

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 RS-422 interface pinout

2014-12-01 Thread Paul
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Graham planoph...@aei.ca wrote: I thought I would be lucky and would just be able to plug and play with the ICUSB422 directly to the J8 Diagnostic port but it isn't so; I will need to make up an additional adapter to get the right pins going to the right pins.

[time-nuts] Yellow fin tuna. Maybe not

2014-11-30 Thread paul swed
Oerry Been a bit. I read yur post and have to say I have no clue to what the yellow fin is. Must be a label or something on the Lucent? Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Yellow fin tuna. Maybe not

2014-11-30 Thread paul swed
OK I think I have those RB with a xtal oscillator set On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: paulsw...@gmail.com said: Been a bit. I read yur post and have to say I have no clue to what the yellow fin is. The packaging for the previous generation of

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 15 Mhz and 10 Mhz

2014-11-30 Thread paul swed
version. Pin 1 goes off to several transistors. Also I have not looked at the rest of u206. So good or bad a tracking 10 Mhz exists. Not so easy to get to frankly. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

[time-nuts] Lucent 24361 15 Mhz

2014-11-30 Thread paul swed
. Not looking forward to that task. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime GPS-DC-416 specs ?

2014-11-29 Thread paul swed
here. At $ 200 with shipping its a heck of a more modern unit and it just works. I loved the $75 and was in the process of ordering a second when I realized they went to $150. Darn to slow. Not as much fun as tinkering, but not at $600. Best regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:28 PM

[time-nuts] LTE Lite installation comments

2014-11-29 Thread paul swed
and occasionally loose lock. OK another project on the list. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime GPS-DC-416 specs ?

2014-11-28 Thread paul swed
up the real trick is how do you even tell it to do that. Pretty sure it would be an rs232 interface and 9600 8n1. But thats aguess from other truetime products. Good luck. Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Tim t...@skybase.net wrote: Hi all, Googling around I cant find much info

Re: [time-nuts] eBay seller has Z3801A upgraded to 58503A

2014-11-28 Thread Paul
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Said Jackson via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Plus the Z3801A seems to just work. On the Lucent boxes we had to suffer through many 100's of posts over the last month... To be fair there doesn't seem to be a 3810 manual so some details needed

Re: [time-nuts] LTE Lite SkyTraq chip info

2014-11-26 Thread paul swed
it supports all of the satellites. But have to say thats a project for another day wa down the list. But at least you can have some further technical details for the system. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

Re: [time-nuts] CentOS 7, Motorola GPS receiver and NTP

2014-11-26 Thread Paul
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:49 AM, xaos x...@darksmile.net wrote: Question: How do I setup NTP with a 1 PPS from serial port and the Motorola receiver hooked up? You'll want to review the documents at ntp.org and the list http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions. The folks there will be happy

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
Looks simple but trying to order 1 piece seems a challenge. Minicircuits wants 10 or $59. Not bad but don't need 10 :-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Mike Seguin n1...@burlingtontelecom.net wrote: Paul, W1GHZ has put together a simple doubler for the 5 MHz OCXO

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Simple Doubler

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
Dave call?? I don't see a #. I have skype so easy enough. Happy to. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net wrote: Give them a call... they are more than willing to sell single pieces of almost any of their products, at the listed lowest quantity

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-Lite Plans

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: I have one of the LTE-Lite 20Mhz units and plan to use it as a frequency reference for my ham radio gear. My planned setup is as follows: I'm putting it in the recommended Hammond enclosure powered by a USB

[time-nuts] LTE Lite SkyTraq chip info

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
the board tindie sells because it supports all of the satellites. But have to say thats a project for another day wa down the list. But at least you can have some further technical details for the system. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] LTE Lite SkyTraq chip info

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
thing I noticed. On ublox the update to the C/N updates every other second same with other screens. Then blanks the screen and repeats. A bit annoying. PUTTY isn't pretty but has what I care about. The offset. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:12 PM, S. Jackson via time-nuts time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] LTR-Lite GPS

2014-11-25 Thread Paul
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Yes, I know that NMEA is standard. I assumed that your board was also putting out proprietary messages Yes there are two such messages. PSTI and PJLTS. STI is emitted with the other NMEA messages and JLTS is emitted when

Re: [time-nuts] LTR-Lite GPS

2014-11-25 Thread paul swed
Hey Paul thats what I look at in PUTTY. Works for me. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Yes, I know that NMEA is standard. I assumed that your board was also putting out proprietary

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361

2014-11-25 Thread Paul
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: All of the pairs that I have received have been in the pink foam. I have a 2005 pair that came in blue foam and mylar. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

Re: [time-nuts] MIT 2 inch cesium fountain, optically pumped

2014-11-24 Thread paul swed
That is a good paper. I can't understand much of it. There you go thats the measure. :-) Thanks Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Mark Kahrs mark.ka...@gmail.com wrote: For those who are interested, a relevant dissertation can be found here: http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle

Re: [time-nuts] Practical considerations making a lab standard with an LTE lite

2014-11-24 Thread paul swed
pin. Maybe I'll try that. But not at first. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Jim Sanford wb4...@wb4gcs.org wrote: Said: I'm seeing C/No numbers between 50.0 and 41.0 for the green birds. I'm seeing 27.0 to 42 on the blue birds. Not quite sure what the difference between

Re: [time-nuts] rs-422 rs-232 to fast ethernet converter

2014-11-24 Thread Paul Alfille
There is a protocol for ending serial commands over telnet (tcp): RFC2217 See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2217 A number of command line tools, like ser2net and netcat use the protocol. Some of the small serial servers support it and it can make using serial remotely tunneled over tcp seamless.

Re: [time-nuts] Practical considerations making a lab standard with an LTE lite

2014-11-23 Thread paul swed
be it would not help allot. The top of the thread is excellant about checking the TCXO output Z. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: In message 20141123174632.kvk4s...@smtp18.mail.yandex.net, Charles Steinmetz writes

[time-nuts] LTE-lite pigtails

2014-11-23 Thread Paul
My unit didn't come with right-angle pigtails as shown in the doc (and Tom's photos). Did anyone else get straight connectors? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] LTE-lite pigtails

2014-11-23 Thread paul swed
Paul Mine came with right angles. It does make for a nicer arrangement. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Jim Sanford wb4...@wb4gcs.org wrote: My first unit came with straight connectors. I can manage. On 11/23/2014 1:50 PM, Paul wrote: My unit didn't come with right

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz LTE-Lite

2014-11-22 Thread paul swed
supermarkets. Ask for cardboard. So there you have it my 10 cents worth of musings on the direction I am headed. Reagards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Jim Sanford wb4...@wb4gcs.org wrote: Said: Just ordered a second 10 MHz board for my rover station 73, Jim wb4

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Ref1 burnin after 1.8 weeks

2014-11-22 Thread paul swed
been looking at for TI is messed up due to a software bug. Checking things with a terminal program, the status screen corresponds pretty well to the data I ??ve measured. Bob On Nov 20, 2014, at 4:40 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I have been snapping pix so can compare now

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Ref1 burnin after 1.8 weeks

2014-11-22 Thread paul swed
a division. It does move but you can not see it. Only over great deals of time. Then the question. Who is actually moving? The real challenge. Not for me at least. Oh yes fire up the TBolt and have one more confusing answer. Think I will skip that. Regards Paul. On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB format

2014-11-21 Thread paul swed
believe that the various electronic lights that are becoming pervasive is seriously deteriorating the ability to detect the signal. I am near Boston so thats fringe. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Glenn Little glennmaill...@bellsouth.net wrote: Are there any atomic clocks

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document - older KS boxes

2014-11-21 Thread paul swed
with the dirty bulb. The darkened window cause a loss in signal and ultimately loss of lock. The heat gun clears both up. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Alex Pummer a...@pcscons.com wrote: but there was a description; how to rejuvenate the rubidium bulb by cautiously warning

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread paul swed
because at least there is some chance to find parts if needed. As I say not a great answer. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document - older KS boxes

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi So far, I have not found any of the Rb’s that came out of the KS boxes with troubles. The ones I got and pulled from boxes myself all have worked fine. The units that got pulled on the other side of an ocean

Re: [time-nuts] MIT 2 inch cesium fountain, optically pumped

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
This is simply great. I now know what to look for at the MIT flea next spring (If its around? Pure speculation on my part) No more GPS, CS, or RBs for me and to heck with LORAN C and WWVB also. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Peter Torry peter.to...@talktalk.net wrote: Hi

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 Ref1 burnin after 1.8 weeks

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
. Also ultimately it will look like an example Antony sent me. Simply noisy. The 3801 is fairly smooth. So I sense my earlier concern of a Bad box is wrong. Pretty happy about that. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz LTE-Lite

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
Simply a reflection of our lazy ebay response. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, S. Jackson via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Hello everyone, after what must have been the longest thread in T-nuts history its almost all quiet today. I am going to take advantage

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz LTE-Lite

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
may step up to a cardboard box real soon now. I am using Putty it works absolutely as well as anything else. Especially since you can only listen to the LTE. Nothing else in the ublox works but the debug screen. Hope that helps. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, S. Jackson via

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz LTE-Lite

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
Said Thanks missed that. Regards Paul On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:17 PM, S. Jackson via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Paul, if you set the serial switch on the LTE-Lite over to the NMEA side then the uBlox application will give you all sorts of bar graphs for signal strengths

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document - older KS boxes

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
can't swear thats EOL. But its some place close to that. As such I installed the Rb winkOmeter on my unit. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi So far, I have yet to have one of the Rb’s die (of the ones that worked when new to me). The magic “lamp

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document - older KS boxes

2014-11-20 Thread paul swed
I do agree its subjective. But my gut says bad is 2-3V I know they seem to run above 3. But whatever. When the blinkOmeter counts I am screwed. :-) Time to get the heatgun. Regards Paul. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi I normally keep a watch on the lamp

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent Rubidium Schematics

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
Perrier I also requested them offline. Did not receive them. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Jan Boutsen jan.bout...@telenet.be wrote: Dear Perry: I would be pleased to receive the PDF and schematics, Many thanks for your efforts in this matter. Boutsen Jan PhD

[time-nuts] QEX article please

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
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[time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
Was doing a search for Lucent RFTGm-II-XO looking for alternates to the $150 solution. A 10 Mhz mod popped up. http://telcodata.us/~myself/Lucent-RFTGm-Modification.pdf Looks simple enough and I have not validated anything. Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
I just saw the picture of the units front panel and it looked the same. Oh well. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi This is a branch thread that never got it’s title changed to drop the KS-24361 part of it. More or less it’s “compare

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 10 Mhz mod interesting document

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:53 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw the picture of the units front panel and it looked the same. Oh well. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi This is a branch thread that never got it’s

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
I know I have some numbers of chroma demod chips as I recall. Picked up in a flea market special along with other more useful chips. I absolutely have the LH033 buffers. Fet input and like lots of power. Have used them as frequency buffers. Super easy to use. Real chips Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-19 Thread paul swed
My fonts are going amuck On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:09 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I know I have some numbers of chroma demod chips as I recall. Picked up in a flea market special along with other more useful chips. I absolutely have the LH033 buffers. Fet input and like lots

Re: [time-nuts] Si570 question

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
you watch the LSB order and setup times. I see there are various ebay class boards to connect to usb for a few $ and also boards that let you program in Windows studio as an example. Or as you want to do straight out of a micro. Regards Paul On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jim Lux jim

Re: [time-nuts] Si570 question

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
Clue-less. As to the good code I have only found maybe 1 site. I thought there would be more. I think it was hackaday. Regards On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 11/18/14, 8:04 AM, paul swed wrote: I just picked up the si5351a and the thing that jumps out

Re: [time-nuts] STUPID QUESTION: Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
In the picture its the top unit ref1 and its the left hand TNC and it does power the antenna. If no antenna you need to tie a resistor to ground on the tnc to fake it out. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Anthony Roby ar...@antamy.com wrote: If you search through the recent

[time-nuts] z3816 what happened?

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
Wonder if the ole lightning gods visited since you are in 4 land. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] z3816 what happened?

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
teh cap. Since it has not been moved in 20 years you can be sure its going to go noisey on you. Then you have to adjust to get the DAC back to mid range. Patience. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Hi Paul

[time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
that it ages in. ASI will refund your money if bad. But only in 30 days. I do like what I see from the KS-... Can never remember the number. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] ks... answers The emails are getting long

2014-11-18 Thread paul swed
I also use the same method though I am partial to IFR 510 FETs as I recall. Heck it just works and has for about 10 years. But that said this is Time-nuts and folks get pretty touchy about lots of things. So though these methods work I do wonder about noise and such. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay KS-24361 may be gone. I emailed ASI to confirm.

2014-11-17 Thread paul swed
dick Here is the $150 pair http://www.ebay.com/itm/LUCENT-SYMMETRICOM-Z3810AS-KS24361-L101-L102-HP-KIO-OEM-GPSDO-TIMING-SYSTEM-/321560316836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ade7d0ba4 Watch out there are several people selling the ref 0 for less. These do noit have the gps module. Regards Paul

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay KS-24361 may be gone. I emailed ASI to confirm.

2014-11-17 Thread paul swed
Lost me Dave. How do you manipulate the buy number? Also make sure its not just the oscillator, though in yourcase you have what you need for $75 Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Timestep informat...@time-step.com wrote: From: Dave Cawley Dartmouth United Kingdom

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay KS-24361 may be gone. I emailed ASI to confirm.

2014-11-17 Thread paul swed
Thanks everyone. By the way my typo the company is AECI. And I will wait in the weeds for $75 ref1s. :-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi It’s pretty simple. Put X pieces in your cart and see what happens. At the point you can’t put any

[time-nuts] LTE LITE comments

2014-11-17 Thread paul swed
-36421. Looks pretty good. Compared to the power consumption those others use amazing. Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Ebay KS-24361 may be gone. I emailed ASI to confirm.

2014-11-17 Thread paul swed
Wow they are turning to gold right before our eyes. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Frederick Bray fwb...@mminternet.com wrote: Looks like the price has now gone back up to $200. It will be interesting to watch to see how many sell at that price and whether they go back

[time-nuts] AEC did confirm they are no more $75 GPSDOs only the $150 sets.

2014-11-15 Thread paul swed
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[time-nuts] Z3801 question on EFC at 81000 but stable

2014-11-15 Thread paul swed
a coarse cap to get things back in order. I also seem to recall pix of the Z3801 oscillator and there were not any adjustments. I sure hope I missed something. Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

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