+1 for foobar
(And its preamp with and without RG info function, still not available
in squeezebox :'( )
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Fahzz wrote:
> Check out this thread:
>
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112796-replay-gain-recommendations>
>
>
> Foobar used to be free - maybe still is.
yes, foobar2000 is free (at least the windows version I use)
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Foobar used to be free - maybe still is.
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KTSq wrote:
> I have started to tag my library with replaygain tags. This is a process
> that will take me some time.
>
> In the meantime l have the same problem, that (local) tracks without
> replaygain play much louder.
I use DBpoweramp which includes a batch converter so you could do your
zoltanplangar wrote:
> use XRECODE it can do that in batch (but is 10$ for the replay gain
> function)
>
> anyway if you are concerned with sound quality , unfortunately
> replaygain creates jitter.
>
> my solution was a preamp
Don't bother replying to this post.
See Michael's response
zoltanplangar wrote:
>
> anyway if you are concerned with sound quality , unfortunately
> replaygain creates jitter.
>
Sorry, this is incorrect in so many ways.
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KTSq wrote:
> I have started to tag my library with replaygain tags. This is a process
> that will take me some time.
>
> In the meantime l have the same problem, that (local) tracks without
> replaygain play much louder.
use XRECODE it can do that in batch (but is 10$ for the replay gain
It seems to me to be a real problem with a "simple" solution.
I'm not a programmer, but why not "just" activate the same gain
adjustment that exist for internet streaming, for local streaming with
replaygain and local streaming without replaygain ?
JII wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Sorry for the "awaking" of this (very) old subject that I just discover,
> but as 808htfan suggested and I more recently (
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?116572-Replay-Gain-Preamp-and-Clipping-prevention
> ), adding exactly the same function for
aubuti wrote:
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the Synology family. How do you
normally update LMS? Is it through a Synology firmware update? If so,
then it's probably not available now because 7.8 is still beta software.
I have no idea what Synology will do about updating to 7.8,
Yes, unfortunately that's a major downside to having to depend on the
NAS manufacturer for updates. They generally don't update their firmware
for beta versions of things like LMS.
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touchmatt wrote:
I've tried updating the firmware, but I can't do it automatically. Is
there a update available for the Synology server do you have advice how
I can update it?
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the Synology family. How do you
normally update LMS? Is it through a Synology
aubuti wrote:
I believe the setting for getting Smart Gain with a external sources
(internet radio, Pandora, etc) is only in LMS 7.8, and you are running
7.7.2.
I've tried updating the firmware, but I can't do it automatically. Is
there a update available for the Synology server do you have
I'm very sorry for the dumb question, but I can't find this setting on
my server which is installed on a Synology NAS. Can you please explain
where I can set it?
I'm using Logitech Media Server Versie: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14
06:37:22 MDT 2012
touchmatt wrote:
I'm very sorry for the dumb question, but I can't find this setting on
my server which is installed on a Synology NAS. Can you please explain
where I can set it?
I'm using Logitech Media Server Versie: 7.7.2 - r33893 @ Wed Mar 14
06:37:22 MDT 2012
I believe the setting
I don't listen to a mix of local and internet tracks often, if ever, but
I also wanted to thank Michael and everyone else for continuing to
improve LMS.
I wonder, does this new gain adjustment apply to local tracks/files that
don't have replaygain info? Can it be made to?
I want NBC's *-Ed-*
I also updated from 7.7.2 to the latest 7.8 nightly.
Now also radio streams are at the same level as my local music, great!
Thanks a lot for implementing this feature!
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mherger wrote:
Will this only work with TOUCH or RADIO? I'm not seeing any options
for
setting in settingsplayersaudio for SQUEEZEPLAY running as player
on
my PC.
It should work on all players which support replay gain. And I do see
this
option for a squeezeplay running on my
I'd also like to thank Michael for this update. I've been waiting a long
time for something like this, so thanks for continuing to make my
Squeezebox systems get better and better.
Richard
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mherger wrote:
I assume it's not yet in the 7.8 unstable release for Debian yet?
What should I do if I want to try it?
Hmm... upload to the debian repositories is failing. Let me see if I can
figure this one out...
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Surely it is available. I installed it last night
I assume it's not yet in the 7.8 unstable release for Debian yet?
What should I do if I want to try it?
Hmm... upload to the debian repositories is failing. Let me see if I can
figure this one out...
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Surely it is available. I installed it last night and there is another
new build today
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.8/sc/e258b12/logitechmediaserver_7.8.0~1371193145_all.deb
Yeah, direct download was fine. But the debian repository was stuck at a
build from almost a week ago.
Thank you, Michael, for doing this and providing this useful change for
those of us that like to have mixed playlists. After having lived with
the volume changes between tracks for years, it's really wonderful to be
finally be able to have some control over that issue!!!
I have a number of
mherger wrote:
This sounds good. How about a debian version :-)
Now that I've got some thumbs up I'll merge it to 7.8. Stay tuned.
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Michael-
I assume it's not yet in the 7.8 unstable release for Debian yet?
What should I do if I want to try it?
Thanks, Michael... This is a fantastic enhancement!
(Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. Please pardon any typos!)
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Should this
# only support track gain for remote streams
if ($track-remote) {
return preventClipping( $track-replay_gain() ||
$prefs-client($client)-get('remoteReplayGain'), $track-replay_peak()
);
}
be
if ($track-remote client($client)-get('remoteReplayGain'))
To avoid the
I've settled on -8dB. For me this gave the best all round result between
Napster, internet radio and local replay gain tagged files.
For those that listen to music from a variety of sources this is a
killer feature. For any users that have not upgraded to 7.8 yet it is
worth doing just for this
It works well! I would like to set the internet gain a little lower than
it is currently - Napster still sounds louder for example but even as it
is it achieves a much nicer transition between local and internet music
though so thank you!
Could there be a user variable user defined setting or
Will this only work with TOUCH or RADIO? I'm not seeing any options for
setting in settingsplayersaudio for SQUEEZEPLAY running as player on
my PC.
It should work on all players which support replay gain. And I do see this
option for a squeezeplay running on my Mac.
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HeadBanger wrote:
It works well! I would like to set the internet gain a little lower than
it is currently - Napster still sounds louder for example but even as it
is it achieves a much nicer transition between local and internet music
though so thank you!
Could there be a user variable
Have a look in the player audio settings. There IS a user defined
variable that can be set beetween -20dB and +20dB, in one dB increments.
The slider as always is a bit more restrictive than the text input field:
using the latter you should be able to enter any decimal number between
-20
My bad, I thought that was checked in to 7.8. At the moment I'm running
from nightlies.
Ok, here's a build off of the internet-replaygain branch:
http://www.herger.net/slim/LogitechMediaServer-7.8.0-1370948181.exe
It's the same as the latest in public/7.8 plus the changes for the
replaygain
mherger wrote:
My bad, I thought that was checked in to 7.8. At the moment I'm
running
from nightlies.
Ok, here's a build off of the internet-replaygain branch:
http://www.herger.net/slim/LogitechMediaServer-7.8.0-1370948181.exe
It's the same as the latest in public/7.8 plus the
mherger wrote:
My bad, I thought that was checked in to 7.8. At the moment I'm
running
from nightlies.
Ok, here's a build off of the internet-replaygain branch:
http://www.herger.net/slim/LogitechMediaServer-7.8.0-1370948181.exe
It's the same as the latest in public/7.8 plus the
Will gladly give it a try - are you able to provide a BSD version?
http://www.herger.net/slim/logitechmediaserver-7.8.0-1370948181-FreeBSD.tgz
What else? :-)
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Ok. It appears to work well. Tested with both online radio and MOG.
Cool! What value did you use?
Someone who uses a service that does include ReplayGain metadata
(Pandora?) should verify that those values are used instead of the
default.
Pandora and Slacker are the only services I know
mherger wrote:
Ok. It appears to work well. Tested with both online radio and MOG.
Cool! What value did you use?
-6. Not sure if that's settled, but it seems to be working well so far.
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What else? :-)
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This sounds good. How about a debian version :-)
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Michael, is your checkin for the remote ReplayGain option in the current
build, or do we need to wait until tomorrow? I'd like to try it and give
you some feedback.
I haven't checked anything in yet, as I wanted someone to validate the
approach first. I added a more complete diff to bug 2431
mherger wrote:
Michael, is your checkin for the remote ReplayGain option in the
current
build, or do we need to wait until tomorrow? I'd like to try it and
give
you some feedback.
I haven't checked anything in yet, as I wanted someone to validate the
approach first. I added a more
mherger wrote:
I don't think you can rely on similarity. I know of certain artists or
albums which seem to have a much lower level than most others. Eg.
Sting,
in particular his Bring on the Night and other 80s albums.
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Hi Michael. I know that these is no real LMS
If somebody is willing to edit some code, you might give the following
change try:
Code:
diff --git a/Slim/Player/ReplayGain.pm b/Slim/Player/ReplayGain.pm
index 5fe5710..60e7692 100644
--- a/Slim/Player/ReplayGain.pm
+++ b/Slim/Player/ReplayGain.pm
@@ -40,10
Mnyb wrote:
I use smart mix and no replay gain works very good, I ever felt the
need for replay gain in the direct place.
mherger wrote:
Heh... I was wondering whether I was the last one not to use any gain
correction.
You're not alone!
I find I either tend to listen to albums or
I also like the idea of smartgain.
For my music, most of the replaygain differences is also in the date of
the recorded music, not in the style.
Older music (80's) has no big negative gain, but actual music has up
to -10db.
Streaming content (for me only radio stations) is similar to actual
mherger wrote:
I use smart mix and no replay gain works very good, I ever felt the
need for replay gain in the direct place.
Heh... I was wondering whether I was the last one not to use any gain
correction.
similar music tend to have similar volume in my case ? must be a bit
I use smart mix and no replay gain works very good, I ever felt the
need for replay gain in the direct place.
Heh... I was wondering whether I was the last one not to use any gain
correction.
similar music tend to have similar volume in my case ? must be a bit
dependent on your library,
Keep in mind what mnyb pointed out above: your audio files must have the
appropriate replay gain tags. If they don't, then Smart Gain won't do
anything, as it will have no guide to how the levels should be adjusted.
There are pros and cons to using ReplayGain.
First, to my ear it does a mediocre job of volume leveling. I still use
the volume control to adjust, far more than I would expect.
Another big disadvantage is that if you also listen to streaming radio
or services like MOG, then having ReplayGain
JJZolx wrote:
There are pros and cons to using ReplayGain.
First, to my ear it does a mediocre job of volume leveling. I still use
the volume control to adjust, far more than I would expect.
Another big disadvantage is that if you also listen to streaming radio
or services like MOG,
Yeah, I think I filed a request years ago that Squeezebox Server give us
a simple option to enter a constant volume adjustment for all streaming
content. It would at least get it to where both are in the same
ballpark.
JJZolx wrote:
Yeah, I think I filed a request years ago that Squeezebox Server give us
a simple option to enter a constant volume adjustment for all streaming
content. It would at least get it to where both are in the same
ballpark.
Yep. I loved the Smart Mix plugin when I first tried it,
I use smart mix and no replay gain works very good, I ever felt the
need for replay gain in the direct place.
similar music tend to have similar volume in my case ? must be a bit
dependent on your library, and my cassoulet listening is not very loud
I've been a SBT/VBA user for 2.5 years and have never experimented with
Volume Adjustment/Replay Gain. I have had this set to No Volume
Adjustment. Does using Smart Gain or the other settings have any affect
on SQ? What are the pros and cons if any?
Your files must have the corresponding replay gain tags .
It functions by actually adjusting the volume on the squeezebox to a
target volume so everything sours equally loud.
By the nature of most modern recordings , the volume gets lower on
average.
Potentially the sn ratio gets a bit lower
The squeezebox volume operates in 24 bit FYI
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Yes 24 bit. And as a result very good handling of digital volume. I keep
my volume at 75% or above. Really like smartgain.
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I'll keep Smart Gain on for now. I have a few playlists with old and new
music that have dramatic volume differences. Once again guys thanks for
the quick response.
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Hi all merry Christmas
I dont know if some internet FM. station send some information for
replay-gains, but I could recognize some differences in sound qualities
by setting smart-gain on off and that for mostly all stations, at
least those with min. 128 kbs streams.
By setting smart gain on,
On Dec 25, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Jacky wrote:
Hi all merry Christmas
I dont know if some internet FM. station send some information for
replay-gains, but I could recognize some differences in sound qualities
by setting smart-gain on off and that for mostly all stations, at
least those
andyg;597062 Wrote:
The effect you are hearing is the placebo effect. ;) Any gain setting
has no effect on radio streams.
What do you mean with placebo effect in this case?
Maybe you need a more resolving system, but I can hear clearly the
differences despite they are subtible, or
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