Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems

2018-02-14 Thread studio
> the quick updates feature That is not necessarily a good thing. I would rather say it may be risky (not tested well enough). > Plus the hardened packages are the cherry on top! What are these? > if you have a libreboot laptop I don't and I am not planning one for the moment. I just

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread studio
Own network = a network in which you can communicate without external interference, independent of company X, Y, Z.

[Trisquel-users] Kernel Panic Using Virt-Manager on Trisquel and libreboot

2018-02-14 Thread goodstuff9
I am attempting to install PureOS 8.0 (beta) on a libreboot Taurinus laptop running Trisquel 8 using virt-manager. Everytime I try to create the PureOS virtual machine, I get a black screen filled with a whole lot of meaningless stuff on it. The screen freezes so all I can do is restart

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread jason
ETS does too. The current ETS kernel is 4.4, and KPTI appeared in 4.4.110.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How will libreboot deal with Meltdown and Spectre?

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
I would guess that not executing proprietary code is a good solution, but I would also say, Leah probably will come up with something somewhere down the road if it is needed. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
Ah you misunderstand, I meant within the website itself. Kind of like posteo.de's method of doing so.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
Interesting, its worth looking up I am sure. I don't quite know the answer at this time.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
I have distro hopped between devuan, parabola and trisquel a few times. But I finally found what I was looking for in hyperbola. One of which being, the quick updates feature. The other being, the packages are updated way more often then devuan. And the last being, its all free software

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread sora
By 'Own network' are you referring to using Mesh Network?

[Trisquel-users] Re : ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
I am not sure about the extended-term support (ETS) version. I am certain that all other versions that jxself's repository currently propose have the KPTI patches.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
I still haven't figured out how to add a gpg key to it yet Have you tried following the steps on https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/index.html ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
Okay thanks. Which kernel has the meltdown patch?:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread studio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_ring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
You said a ways up that there is no perfect solution. This is true as humans, we make errors, and mistakes and are constantly improving our ways and techniques... But that last line about God, yes, if by that you are saying that because of the old testament I agree wholeheartedly. But

Re: [Trisquel-users] Voxware MetaSound works!

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
hmm... I suppose that makes sense. Yep it works for me too. Good ol Hyperbola!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread calmstorm
ring -2 and ring -3? hmm... I don't know much about ring, I just know for desktops its pretty freakin decent. I should also add 4gb cloud storage and also, it costs nothing unless you donate. Its copyleft and also, Oh, not that this helps you persay, but,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread studio
> Disroot.org is the best free one. Which others have you compared, on what criteria and how do they handle the ring -2 and -3 issues?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread sophoclestechnologies
What do you think of Autistici/Inventati? I've done some research, and they seem to be solid in terms of the security and privacy they offer.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
Why should the communication go through "your own network"? Those are your words. Isn't your interlocutor entitled to control the network carrying the communication as much as you are? Should you and your interlocutor build a network you administrate together? Good luck if an ocean

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread Mason Hock
Meltdown and Spectre are two recently discovered vulnerabilities that affect many computers. https://meltdownattack.com You have a Mac if I recall correctly, so you have an Intel chipset and are affect by both Meltdown and Spectre. Meltdown has been patched in recent versions of the Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
What?

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
Explain?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread msuzuqi
By the way, God is. In 1995, I was at a something called cardozo or cardoso's house in the Cuba. SanterĂ­a is a system of beliefs... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santer%C3%ADa

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread shiretoko
Did you even read my post? It almost feels as if you're replying to somebody else... you completely missed my point.

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread Mason Hock
The meltdown patch.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
> Yes. But MB likes to twist words and argue over the twist :) It seems so... > Encryption itself is safe but the endpoints are infected by proprietary software running at ring -2 and -3 which means the private keys are not protected. Read this post and watch the video linked inside it and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread studio
> You can set up a communicative network with more people than yourself and still be isolated from the Internet. I think that was what he meant. Yes. But MB likes to twist words and argue over the twist :) > How come there are people talking about encryption not being safe? And may I ask

[Trisquel-users] Re : Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
The email provider does NOT run only free software. NO computer in this world does that as of today. I wonder why it is so difficult for most people here to understand this. I wonder why it is so difficult for you to understand that it is *not* quantumgravity's point. He even started his

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
1. I don't think that was what he meant. You can set up a communicative network with more people than yourself and still be isolated from the Internet. I think that was what he meant. 2. You say: Free software end-to-end encryption, using good-enough cyphers and protocols, is the

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
With your own isolated network you would only communicate with yourself, i.e., not communicate. Free software end-to-end encryption, using good-enough cyphers and protocols, is the solution. It works on the Internet. That is for the data. For the meta-data, the best we have is Tor.

Re: [Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread mappack
Some of your hardware might have better support in a newer kernel. If this one is working fine I wouldn't update it as it could only cause problems you did not have before.

[Trisquel-users] ELI5 the advantages of updating the kernel

2018-02-14 Thread svenerik_vn
So when I install Trisquel with the generic (4.4.0-112-generic) kernel everything is working dandy. Could someone ELI5 the potentially advantages of updating the kernel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where to sell Libreboot devices

2018-02-14 Thread mappack
Yeah, I know, I know, I should have contacted eBay. I only got to a page where everything was so generic that I thought I'd check here if anyone knew. I'll try checking the "include description" box. Thank you for your answer!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread studio
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I hope it won't be a 1.April joke :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread member
> The question is: which online service provider runs on RYF hardware with FOSS firmware and software? Vikings [1] will soon lunch their librehosting service and I asked them at FOSDEM when they will be ready to deliver. They said that they would start in April 2018 with email hosting

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread studio
> 1.Is there a perfect method to guard our electrical communication against an attacks of peepers? Only if you create your own network, completely isolated from the Internet. For Internet: Abdullah's advice is perhaps the best compromise.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread msuzuqi
Ramazanoglu bey, I thought over what your suggestion. I am going to buy a libreboot laptop. I am desiring to touch a cleaner machine, and I think I should see those dirt. If they let he go to eat for playing safe, I will able to move it symmetrically as my usual tried and favorite

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software foundations problems

2018-02-14 Thread studio
I admire the passion you have for this distro :) I am definitely going to give it a try when I have time.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free email providers

2018-02-14 Thread studio
> It's not *your* computer but theirs, and so asking for an email provider that runs only free software on their servers is actually being concerned about *their* freedom. The email provider does NOT run only free software. NO computer in this world does that as of today. I wonder why it