Regarding voice/video conferencing options: I have no real-world experience
with jami/ring, except for setting up the client, which, as I recall, had
some accessibility with the Orca screen reader, though wasn't perfect. I
often use the non-free Zoom conferences with fine accessibility to
I decided to give the new Trisquel 9 graphical live system a spin, and found
that the orca screen reader will not start. First, I tried waiting about 10
minutes after boot, thinking it might start in the manner to which I'm
accustomed in Trisquel. When nothing seemed to happen, I ticked
Where would I find this Trisquel 9 live iso?
+1!
From personal experience: If one needs the accessibility in order to turn on
the accessibility, that's not acceptable.
Who's on Mastodon, What's on GNU Social, and I Don't Know's on Diaspora.
GNUSocial: daveh...@social.mayfirst.org
You can stop and disable screen reader in the Universal Access page on
Control Center, or just toggle it with 'alt+super+s'. You should also kill
all the speech-dispatcher processes that orca launches. When you mute
speech-dispatcher, it's still running. At any time, you can restart orca,
When there's no more captcha, I may try a diaspora instance.
Congrats, everyone!
Sent from T8 on a USB. :D
My concern is that Uruk may not get cirtified, it's Trisquel with a slightly
different ui.
Since my last post, I managed to get a bootable system by extracting the .iso
archive onto a formatted flash drive, having one FAT partition, taking up the
whole disk. Once I booted this version, I tried running the screen reader,
and got it started, only to have it turn off within 5
I downloaded the 64-bit version from Jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/RC/ and
wrote it to flash drive using the 'dd' command; resulting image is not
bootable. I used http in the browser, which works for all other distros'
live images but Trisquel.
What's new in the February ISO? Downloading it as we speak. I may have to
burn to USB drive with the archive mounter or something; sounds like the
standard 'dd' approach doesn't work?
I installed XFCE without dependency problems, but couldn't figure how to get
the session to load; no access to the session switcher in lightdm.
Thanks fot the direction to the htc firmware packge; I'll download it and
keep it handy. The machine with UEFY fcn't seem to install anyting
Trisquel-- 7 won't even boot, and 8/Uruk graphical installer gets stuck. My
old netbook runs everything Trisquelish perfectly.
Glad to hear the quick review; here's my first impression:
I started the live system, made using the DD command and a USB drive. Screen
reader and music cme up as expected; this is what I wanted. Mate desktop,
menus, and control center work nicely. My Think Penguin USB wifi adaptor is
not
I would not worry about the fact that the authors of Uruk from Iraq. This
being a fully-free system, I suppose you could audit the sources for
insecurities or mallice.
Thanks, but I won't be doing this; have sunk more than enough time into
trying the near-impossible.
Thanks for your help!
Following the installer crash, I mounted the volume that should have had
Trisquel on it, and found that my user had been created, and /usr/bin seemed
to be partially populated. I noticed that, when looking at /etc/default/grub,
I found the grub command field empty, and
Hi,
When trying to do this, the installer crshed at about the 45% point, in the
second installation phase. Following the crash, I did "lablk", and got the
output below. The crash report said somethign about grub-install script.
How do I get this to work? What other info may help?
Yes.
It has its own and uses the Trisquel repository.
How refreshing. Not really out-spoken advocacy, but it's a start. Maybe
somene will see that strange desktop and want to learn more about it?
I'm not sure what, if anything, of Ubuntu was shown, but, a lead character
mentioned it by name. Afaik, this has happened once in the entire series
called The Big Bang Theory. Otherwise, characters are shown using Skype and
their IThings. Oh, and I think Ubuntu got a brief mention in a Tom
All of those are preachers to the choir. What I think the op is after are
names of of celebrities who are known more for their work outside the free
software connunity, but who are allies. Hence my mentioning a well-known SF
author. On a related topic, who has seen product placement of a
Thesci-fi author, Cory Doctorow comes to mind. He addressed this spring's
Libreplanet conference and was a hit!
I like the Uruk control center and welcome screens. They give it a distinct
look and feel; thanks for making sure the accessibility works on those custom
screens. I would like to see the indicator applet replaced with the standard
Mate applets, namely NetworkManager and Sound Volume. A
I'm glad to learn of your experience, Ivan. Maybe I'll try, again, to
manually partition my USB. I tried this, but no joy last time.
The Trisquel 8 image, dated June 19, will not boot on 3 of my machines, only
one of which has uefi. Uruk 32-bit installs on one machine, but neither Uruk
image will install on my machine having uefi. It runs on all machines, from
the live environment. I've switched one machine to Debian,
Debian Stretch will install Mate, if you accept the defaults. I forget what
Jessie would do.
Am running Beta 2 on, perhaps, an under-powered machine. Thereare some
inconveniences, but The developers seem to have hit the targets mentioned in
their announcement of Beta 2.
I'll try this soon; thanks, Uruk Team! Glad to see you've fixed the 'talking
login' issue; want a look at the Uruk Control Center.
Running Uruk GNU, 2.0, Beta 1 on an Asus EEPC as we speak. Another of my
laptops has Trisquel 7. My other laptops have other distros. No
virtualization or multi-boot, here!
https://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/ no longer works for me. Error
404. To where have they been moved?
I like the way you do it now-- put the installation script right on the
desktop! Maybe the Uruk welcome page should have pointers to some
information about guix?
Thanks for Uruk!
-Dave
I'm running the beta on my little netbook; it looks nearly finished. Not
sure whether I can install onto my Thinkpad that has uefi; Trisquel won't
boot on the thing. Interested in learning more about this guix package
system the include in addition to the apt defaults.
Downloading the beta, now, and will have more to say avter I've had a look at
it. Glad you've decided to return to Mate de; accessibility in Cinnamon is
not ready.
But, that would be a closed curve, and we dont' want that. LOL
Mangy Dog: I didn't try Uruk on UEFI. I haven't tried legacy or csm; can't
do it, eyes-free. Or, maybe I can, using a live medium that will boot?
I cannot get the Trisquel image, published in June, to boot on anything. For
yesterday's post, I was ufing the image made in April, which does boot on
machines that do not have UEFI. In my testing of Uruk 2 Alpha, I find that
Orca screen reader will not work; I hear the welcome message but
The subject machine has an UEFI bios, and cannot seem to boot either Trisquel
7 or 8 from USB. Attempts to boot the live image result in a black screen.
Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, and Void live images boot fine. Is Trisquel not meant
to be bootable with UEFI?
Another happy user of Posteo here. Interested in other options, just in
case...
I'm another who cannot get the Trisquel 8 live iso, dated June 19, to boot on
any of three computers, all having legacy bios booting. I had done, as I
always do with iso, the 'dd' command, as root, putting the image onto a flash
drive. The Trisquel 8 images from January or April boot as
Wifi functionality is included; I've another machine, with a pci wifi card,
that works. Thanks for pointer to instructions.
I installed from the live image dated 10-April, having played with the
January release for a while. I'm glad to see icedove, synaptic, pidgin,
add/remove apps, and a few other things now included. I know that Orca
screen reader bothers some, but I like it. I did update orca to the next
I like it, too; using it on two of my boxes. Having trouble getting it to
detect and use USB wifi radio, that's perhaps, worth a call to Think Penguin.
What happened to Debian's fork called iceape? I'e used the monkey in other
distros, and like it.
I found it in the repository, nd am using it on two Trisquel 8 testing
mchines. I'd like to see icedove return, but can use this in the meantime.
The first of these is that I cannot connect to secure wifi networks that use
wpa2/psk. The second is that, on machines where I need it, my Think Penguin
usb wifi dongle is not recognized though it shows up when I use lsusb
command.
Any ideas?
Dave
Thanks for the update and announcement! The accessibility with orca is
working well, except with some focusing problems with the indicator applet;
Not sure Rubin can fix these.
When icedove and pidgin are in the repository, I may put 8 onto my main
machine. It's now on a testing machine,
I'd rather call it 'incomplete' than 'unstable'.
Sounds like you should keep it in virtual, on a flash drive, or on a machine
whose hard drive contains nothing important.
Accessibility support also seems to be missing. Glad to know the installer
is working for some, and may progress continue.
This is a default install, with Trisquel taking the entire disk. Thanks for
grub repair suggestion. If I can ever get a recovery disk to boot, I'll try
that and, maybe,
dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
Thanks,
Dave
On a fresh installation of Trisquel 7, I get this error when try8ing to boot
from the hard drive. What does it mean, and how can I fix it, short of
reinstalling?
Libreoffice suite and mate-dictionary should do it.
Two thumbs up to Alberto. I think we have to consider usability concerns like
availability of help, multi-lingual options, ease of setup and use, and
accessibility.
icedove/thunderbird for email, calendar, tasklists, etc... Thunderbird and
abrowser can both can handle rss. Thumbs up for deluge. Is electrum still a
reasonable default?
SimpleScan, tesseract-ocr.
mate-disk-utility
The tribe has spoken re: vlc. How about audacious for the library-based
audio player, and asunder for ripping cd? I have no suggestion for
conversion, but Audacity for recording and editing audio? For torrenting, I
suggest deluge.
simplescan is a good choice, as are the popler utilities for working with pdf
files. E. G. pdftohtml.
I use orca for speech feedback. maybe the brltty daemon should be included
for those with refreshable displays. Since Trisquel 8 is not using GNOME, we
need an alternative screen magnifier; compiz e-zoom plugin, maybe? I don't
know what we want to do for an accessible login greeter, since
The current alpha has no installer.
Audacity and vlc are good multimedia apps for the devfault. Icedove and
abrowser for web, and pidgin for messaging. I'll likely come up with more
app suggestions.
Thanks for releasing this testing live image! On a running instance, I added
the accessibility-dev ppa and installed Orca screen reader. To do this, I,
first, installed and started a service called espeakup; this gives console
speech and screen review. Once the accessibility packages were
I cannot ignore comments made by a community member of your status; Hahaha.
Oh, BTW, you passed the test. Now, is there anything else with which I can
help you today?
As I write this, I am using Uruk 32-bit edition on my laptop, having a Core 2
Duo processor and 3 gb ram; The running Mate desktop is very fast, and
applications seem to load more quickly than they would, even in the stock
Triisquel 7. I had trouble getting orca to run on my two older
For the live image, go with GNOME Shell; it works and is accessible; I just
don't like all that overhead. If you can get speech and braille into the net
install, as Debian has done, and offer all the desktops, with whatever
accessibility they support, I think everyone's covered.
I haven't tried xfce lately, but last time I did, the panel and file manager
weren't accessible, though all the apps I tried seemed to be so. Xfce's nice
and fast, however, and may be the best option, for the default de, if you're
planning to accommodate light-weight systems.
Maybe an accessible login greeter, such as the one used in Trisquel? How
about an accessible net installer, such as in Debian? I'd suggest sticking
to Mate 1.12, based on problem reports that latelyh come up on Sonar GNU
support forum. if you are sticking with Mate, how about including
@heather Am getting some of that placebo effect from my monthly donation to
the FSF; time to resume my monthly Trisquel donation.
How would I go about installing the parts that are ready?
Maybe the new live image should have that folder in Desktop instead of
Documents?
I've known the Debian netinstall for 7 and 8 to ask if I have a flashdrive
containing the firmware for my Intel wifi. The Debian site offers links to
unofficial net install images whose names contain "-firmware", though you
have to hunt for them. As long as these prompts for the firmware
Mate 1.12 with a single panel works well with the latest orca screen reader.
Thanks to Rubin and all for the continued progress on the next release! What
does the new desktop look like? Eager for version 8!
On the ring page, I chose Ubuntu 14.04 from the drop-down list; the page
showed me the instructions for Debian 8, which I followed. After adding the
repositories and updating my system, the attempt to install ring resulted in
the following.
dhunt@belenos:~$ sudo apt-get install ring
I'm back on Belenos and have trouble installing Ring; some dependencies not
available or are wrong versions. If you're using ring on Trisquel 7, perhaps
you can help?
Thanks,
Dave Hunt
stalk me on gnusocial: davehunt@2mb.social
I just built and installed the Ring Gnome client onto my Parabola setup. No
calls yet, so I dont' know how that part works, but startup was as easy as
would be with skype. My machine-generated number is:
ring:50ba038c8b3f0f1faa10a5ff6fbb379decc489f9
I refer to links and lynx as the chain and the cat, respectively. It's a
meme that started in the early 2000s, among some blind GNU/Linux users.
People who read with speech have an easier time distinguishing them.
What's more: when you use the installer with the accessibility turned on
(speech and/or braille), the installed system will have the accessibility
preconfigured and working from startup. I would advise those who want the
net installer experience and need the accessibility to use Debian,
Sadly, the net installer is not accessible with speech.
There are gnus, vm, and mh-e for mail in emacs. Last time I tried using vm,
I had trouble getting it to talk to my imap account, but gnus worked fine.
Org mode is great for structured documents.
From the rhythmbox main window, 'ctrl+q' will quit the program.
In the login greeter, use 'ctrl+s' to toggle the reader off. 'alt+super+s'
toggles it when in the desktop.
HTH,
Dave
Even when a program I want to run is in the menus, I find it quicker and
easier to use the run dialogue.
Welcome to Trisquel!
In Settings->keyboard, you can find the shortcuts tab; you seem to have done
this. You'll notice categories of shortcuts, including 'launchers', this for
your default email, media player, media player controls, etc. To activate a
shortcut, highlight it, then move
If Trisquel 8 is really going with Mate as default, that's great news! I'm
using Mate in another distro and liking it; have a layout that looks a lot
like Trisquel's default, having a single panel and column of menus.
I am interested, and thanks for sharing the links! Also am glad work on
Trisquel 8 has begun.
A Trisquel net install or Parabola are good options.
I usually partition myself, usinb the 'something else' option on the gui
installer, and have plenty of space. On this laptop, I made a 32-gb root
file system, a 3 gb swap space, and the rest for '/home/ it's plenty.
I tried the ecryptfs-unlock-passphrase command, and got an error after
entering my login password. The error message tells me to look in a log, but
not which file. /var/log/syslog seems not to have anything about libecryptfs.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Dave
david@belenos:~$
thanks for all these references! After posting my last reply, I booted the
live Trisquel image, and mounted my /home partition. When I changed to my
home folder, I was never prompted for passphrases, and I could read all the
files. This suggests a bug in ubiquity, with the effect that,
This shows the Libre JS extension to be truly cross-platform; LOL. Have you
considered the extension called Noscript instead? I use this; it lets me
white-list those few instances where I want script to run, blocking the rest.
Maybe someone, better-informed than I, can explain how
I find use of the TP usb wifi radio to be plug-and-play with Trisquel7, on a
Toshiba Satellite laptop, which also has the Intel wifi thing, known not to
be supported by software libre. One minor annoyance, though: If I boot or
awaken this machine, with the wifi switched on and the usb not
Good idea, and welcome to Trisquel.
I cleaned out my .mozilla directory and did a system upgrade. Now, I cannot
add extensions to ABrowser. Instead, I am using Icecat, but with LibreJS
replaced with NoScript. I now find that, e even with the scripts allowed, my
bank's site will not accept passwords when I use Icecat; It
Hi,
In a new installation of Belenos GNOME edition, I chose to encrypt my home
folder. In this installation, I partitioned manually. I was never prompted
for an encryption pass phrase. Does this mean my login password is also used
to unlock encryption, or did the install go as if I hadn't
Thanks! I'll try looking at the folder from elsewhere, maybe try mounting it
in /mnt on the live cd. If some other pass phrase were displayed at first
login, I didn't hear it. Also, if I change my login password, what will
happen to the encryption?
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