Everyone but Jesus thought Judas was a follower of Christ
Turns out the Bible says he was a Devil
He just had a very good sheepskin.
Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some
men they follow after.
--- Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Izzy,
Allowing for the claim of "Christian" does not mean anything eternally.If I admonish you as a brother and you are a fraud, does that negate the admonition? And isn't II Thess 3:14-15 telling us that being a "brother" and being "saved" (potentially) two different things? the fact of the matter is
Certainly.
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Izzy,
Can you
Izzy,
If you believe one is not a Christian, then you are not compelled to take
him at his word, a la 1 Cor 13, right?
Perry
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I usually try to give anyone the benefit of a doubt or assume the best of
them, Christian or not, unless I have reason not to. So are you implying
that BT doesn't think Terry is a Christian? iz
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Izzy,
No, I was not implying that BT thinks Terry is not a Christian. I was
trying to find out if you really take 1 Cor 13 to heart, and point out that
if someone is indeed a Christian, but you do not think they are, that you
may not take them at their word, in which case you would not be
Perry, I do not make being a Christian a litmus test of whether or not I
believe a person. I take into account their history. Some claim to be
Christians and aren't, but are liars instead. Some claim not to be
Christians but I still assume they are telling the truth if I have never
known them
No problems, Izzy.
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Perry, I do not make being a Christian
Izzy, how do you know who is a believer to decide if you should take him at
his word? Some on this group say they are believers but you do not believe
that they are. If they are believers, regardless of whether you think they
are believers or not, aren't you breaking 1 Cor 13 if you do not take
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Izzy, how do you know who is a believer to decide if you should take
him at his word? Some on this group say they are believers but you do
not believe that they are. If they are believers, regardless of
whether you think they are believers or not, aren't you
I don't know of any reason to believe that Terry is not a follower of
Christ. Some folks claim to follow Christ but their fruit shows otherwise,
in which case Jesus said to judge by the fruit, not by the talk. Some folks
on TT state they don't know what it means to be born again, some claim to be
I don't know of any reason to believe that Terry is not a follower ofChrist. Linda Shileds
By Terry's own admission, none of us should assume he is a Christian. Did I miss something?
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Izzy,
Can you be wrong in your discernment about who is a Christian and who is
not, perhaps believing one who is indeed a Chrisian to not be so?
Perry
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I don't know of any reason to believe that Terry is not a follower of
Christ. Some folks claim to follow Christ but their fruit shows otherwise,
in which case Jesus said to judge by the fruit, not by the talk. Some folks
on TT state they don't know what it means to be
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