RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Of Caroline Wong Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:26 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell I'm no longer as involved due to time constraints. I help out a friend who hosts intercession seminars. My experiences are varied. Mostly it's intercessors from

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-16 Thread Caroline Wong
the times and knew what Israel should do. We need men like these for our times. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:07 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Wow

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Thanks Izzy. There are some amazing people working on both sides of the border to change the spiritual fabric over their cities and their countries. I once asked a Canadian theologian what did Christ's resurrection and ascension mean for all of mankind

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:48 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Jackson starts the book with anecdotes of people who went into spiritual warfare against Satan or territorial spirits and received major

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-15 Thread Caroline Wong
Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell That is really an interesting concept, Caroline. I admit I’m unsure about it, but it does

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
their authority when challenging Satan. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Caroline wrote: Are you saying that Christians do

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-14 Thread Caroline Wong
ense. It's impossible to compress years of training and experience into one post! Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell How does a Belie

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote concerning the third heaven: This scripture [2 Cor. 12:2] demonstrates nothing. I was just wondering why you used the label unbiblical when the Bible does mention a third heaven. Lance wrote: May I assume that you and Izzie are 'one' are the point of hell at the center of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: Consider all the people that Jesus cast demons out of. Were they happy go-lucky people? It is the chicken and the egg, thing. Do the demons cause pain and despair or do they find people who are in pain and despair and then feed off of that pain and despair? Some of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread Caroline Wong
Are you saying that Christians do not battle Satan or demons? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Caroline wrote: Consider all the people that Jesus cast

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 7:54:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I assume that you and Izzie are 'one' are the point of hell at the center of the earth? Yes, of course. That is what the Bible teaches us Well, I have always defended myself as a bibilical literalist.

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
John wrote: I am no biblical literalist, as of this post. I'm glad you are coming to know your true self, John. We have known this about you for a long time, and have tried sometimes to communicate that, but sometimes it takes an indirect statement to make one realize such things. :-) There

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: Are you saying that Christians do not battle Satan or demons? No. I don't know where you got that idea. I just shared about ministering deliverance to others. That is battling demons. I look for ways to kick the devil in the butt every day. :-) Jesus promised that the

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2005 10:02:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a lot of eisegesis in your writings. When confronted with certain passages that are rather clear, rather than hearing what they are teaching, you find ways to rationalize them away and keep your

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-13 Thread Caroline Wong
challenging Satan. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Caroline wrote: Are you saying that Christians do not battle Satan or demons? No. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Lance Muir
, 2005 21:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Lance wrote: The fabled (non-biblical) non-biblical? 2 Corinthians 12:2 (2) I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Judy Taylor
p? I guess that's your point. The 'sun also RISES.' May I assume that you and Izzie are 'one' are the point of hell at the center of the earth? - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 11, 2005 21:15 Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Lance Muir
rg Sent: April 11, 2005 21:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of HellLance wrote: The fabled (non-biblical) non-biblical? 2 Corinthians 12:2 (2) I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I canno

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Caroline Wong
the ordinary 9-5 job. No wonder you believe as you do about demons. Interesting. Blessings, Caroline - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Caroline wrote

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Duh!! What does CAUGHT UP to the THIRD HEAVEN mean Lance? To me this (2 Cor 12:2) tell usthat heaven is up rather than down and that there are three of them. judyt On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:37:04 -0400 Lance Muir [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Caroline Wong
and saying, what the? as they start reading it. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Judy, don’t fret; Lance probably

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:35 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell So, was Paul translated into another time-space within our universe? Did he enter

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2005 3:51:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Duh!! What does CAUGHT UP to the THIRD HEAVEN mean Lance? To me this (2 Cor 12:2) tell us that heaven is up rather than down and that there are three of them. judyt Shouting or emphasizing,

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-12 Thread ttxpress
and youand the founding fathers are one On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:39 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the pure to the Pure, the rebellious to the Rebellious

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell paying their taxes is an afterthought with some People on record here, not a priority..of course, you didn't say you are paying tax, yousaidare 'doing' taxes, below

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-11 Thread ttxpress
acc to the article**, below,thisis false: we are all getting done over by Uncle Sam [via Izzy] On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:07:23 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43730 ** those who pay nothing or less get more

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-11 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: The fabled (non-biblical) non-biblical? 2 Corinthians 12:2 (2) I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. Lance wrote: ... notion of a

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-11 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: This is speculation on my part too but I think demons feed off humans especially human pain, anger and despair. You might reconsider this.Christians often suffer. I don't think this attracts demons. Rather, I think demons are attracted to those who are in luxury and

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 5:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "As a communist I dont believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/9/2005 8:00:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I heard it on a radio program a few months back...it is a hoax. really !??

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Judy Taylor
People are still drilling out there though. Now it is the Ocean Floor; Art Bell is talking about it tonight. I don't know why they want to know what is down there any more than what is in space but apparently they do. jt On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:15:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
, 2005 3:40 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell People are still drilling out there though. Now it is the Ocean Floor; Art Bell is talking about it tonight. I don't know why they want to know what is down there any

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Who is Art Bell? BTW, I do believe that hell is in the center of the earth, and openings going to and from are in the ocean somewhere (Bermuda Triangle?) Any other opinions? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell I didn't see a smiley face. You did mean to put one in didn't you? Art Bell (Coast to Coast-Google it) is the second most listened to radio host in America (Rushbo is #1). The Show is on 7 nights per week. He (AB

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Muir
yes. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 10, 2005 09:27 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell No, sorry to be so ignorant, but I never heard of him. I don’t listen to evening radio, and certainly

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: No, sorry to be so ignorant, but I never heard of him. I dont listen to evening radio, and certainly not to programs about aliens or conspiracy theories. Do you? Izzy I have never heard of him either, Iz. Can't be anybody

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Caroline Wong
I'm very tempted to ask...and what is your biblical basis for believing this? Love Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Who

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Muir
When you're right..The fabled (non-biblical) notion of a three decker universe still prevails though false. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 10, 2005 10:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell We

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Will get back to you, Caroline, after the taxes are done! J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:44 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell I'm very tempted to ask

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ttxpress
while your at it, what'sthe theology for this besides your prioroty onfidelity with humans and humanism? On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:36:52 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: after the taxes are done!

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:44 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell I'm very tempted to ask...and what is your biblical basis for believing this? Love Caroline - Original

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell We most certainly don't but things like cosmonauts finding angels in space, Russian scientists drilling into hell, etc. are aired first on these shows and people forward these stories to one another. It takes time for them

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
, April 10, 2005 8:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell When you're right..The fabled (non-biblical) notion of a three decker universe still prevails though false. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Wishing I could understand your questionIzzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:50 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell while your at it, what'sthe theology

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Caroline Wong
I just did mine and I owe $14. Oh well, it could be worse. :-) - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Will get back to you, Caroline, after

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Caroline Wong
AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Caroline, it’s just speculation on my part due to the following verses: zech:911As for you also, because of the blood of My covenant with you,I have set your prisoners free from the waterless pit. Matt 12: 43"Now

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Muir
When you look up 'ex cathedra' in the dictionary you see my picture so. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 10, 2005 12:52 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell It would sure be nice if you

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Pope Lance??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:22 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell When you look up 'ex cathedra' in the dictionary you see my picture so

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:01 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Sounds like a desert. It might be metaphorical for places that are not hospitable to demons. This is speculation on my part too

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ttxpress
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell while you['re] at it, what'sthe theology for this besides your prior[i]ty onfidelity with humans and humanism? On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:36:52 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
It actually means we are all getting done over by Uncle Sam. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell paying

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-10 Thread ttxpress
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell paying their taxes is an afterthought with some People on record here, not a priority..of course, you didn't say you are paying tax, yousaid

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I heard it on a radio program a few months back...it is a hoax. From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:14:18 -0400 Anybody ever heard this tape recording of

RE: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
In fact, here is a site that claims to have traced it back to the originator. http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=21390 From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Sounds

Re: [TruthTalk] Sounds of Hell

2005-04-09 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.htm David Miller wrote: Anybody ever heard this tape recording of people screaming in hell? :-) http://www.av1611.org/sound/misc/dighell.ra "As a communist I dont believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now