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2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Deegan
And so it is that God will tell you one thing and tell me something very different Right He tells me thou shalt not lie.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to tell my children, "Never cross the street without me or Mom!!" I don't tell them that. In fact, I tell them much the opposite.Growth is a

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2005-04-28 Thread Lance Muir
Amen to Caroline and, to David on this. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 27, 2005 22:44 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell No error, Kevin, but only the complexities

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2005-04-28 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Theologian=Rational discourse concerning [God]. I did not realize that theologians had to be rational. There was a discussion some time back in which I thought you and another person objected to logic. Furthermore, I think of study of God and religion when I think of the word

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2005-04-28 Thread Lance Muir
) It matters much Who we say The Father is, Jesus is and, The Spirit is. tcould - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 28, 2005 06:38 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Lance wrote

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2005-04-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Most holiness churches teach that women should wear dresses only. It's based on the idea that women should not wear men clothing. The Amish probably follow Paul's teaching best. Of course, there are Amish who are proud or who like to gossip. I know

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2005-04-28 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Do any TTers believe that some things in the Bible such as this are merely the opinions of the authors, and do not reflect the Lord's doctrines? ShieldsFamily wrote: I agree that dresses are easiest and prettiest. However, my point was that if you are really going

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2005-04-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
and gentle/quiet spirit (the exact opposite of Jezebel), without which the others are useless. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:38 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk

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2005-04-28 Thread knpraise
I used to tell my children, "Never cross the street without me or Mom!!" I don't tell them that. In fact, I tell them much the opposite.Growth is a dynamic that demands differing advice as time goes on. And so it is that God will tell you one thing and tell me something very different --

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2005-04-27 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: 3)In your opinion, why do bright and sincere Christians believe different doctrines? How do you decide who is right? Is it by how well they match your thinking? === BINGO! That

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2005-04-27 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: 1) How many of you guys believe - that you have 100% correct theology - that you have 100% truth - that this is easy for anyone I would say nobody on this list. Caroline wrote: 2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology? No, but I

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2005-04-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology? The ApostlesDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caroline wrote: 1) How many of you guys believe - that you have 100% correct theology - that you have 100% truth - that this is easy for anyoneI would say nobody

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2005-04-27 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: 2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology? Kevin wrote: The Apostles The Apostles were theologians? Maybe the apostle Paul was, but were the Twelve Apostles theologians? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be

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2005-04-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
, April 26, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell We talked about how can we know when we're worshipping a false god. When we consider history from Augustine to today, it's not easy. It is VERY easy, this is exactly why God WROTE it down in Black White. We have a

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2005-04-27 Thread Kevin Deegan
Point is please show me the ERROR in Pauls theology!David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caroline wrote: 2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology?Kevin wrote: The ApostlesThe Apostles were theologians?Maybe the apostle Paul was, but were the Twelve

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2005-04-27 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 27, 2005 13:12 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Caroline wrote: 2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology? Kevin wrote: The Apostles The Apostles were theologians? Maybe the apostle Paul

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2005-04-27 Thread Lance Muir
] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Theologian=Rational discourse concerning. Excluding myself, doesn't that include all of the Apostles and all TTers?? (I knew the use of the word 'rational' would 'cause' you to agree with me, David) - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL

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2005-04-27 Thread Caroline Wong
2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Point is please show me the ERROR in Pauls theology!David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caroline wrote: 2) Can you name other theologians whom you believe have no error in their theology?K

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2005-04-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
But the Amish women do wear dresses. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Only the Amish do better because they also don't wear jewellery, perfume or make-up.

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2005-04-27 Thread caroline
: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell But the Amish women do wear dresses. Izzy _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Only the Amish do better because they also don't wear jewellery, perfume or make-up. -- Let your

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2005-04-26 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Lance Muir To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell What i

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2005-04-26 Thread caroline
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell It's all through the OT whenever God's ppl strayed by getting too tight with the nations around them He spoke through the prophets calling them adultresses and harlots. In the NT we can see it clearly in Romans 7

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2005-04-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
to reflect whom he really believes himself to be "What you are shouts so loud in my ears, I cannot hear what you say." Ralph Waldo Emerson Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk]

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2005-04-26 Thread Caroline Wong
: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell We talked about how can we know when we're worshipping a false god. When we consider history from Augustine to today, it's not easy. It is VERY easy, this is exactly why God WROTE it down in Black White. We have a MORE SURE WORD 1Peter ya know

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2005-04-25 Thread Lance Muir
What if one is actually not angry but, one is so perceived by others? - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 24, 2005 18:18 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell James 1:19-20 My dear

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2005-04-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Then that one must be an Illiterate FundieLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if one is actually not angry but, one is so perceived by others? - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 24, 2005 18:18 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:

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2005-04-25 Thread Lance Muir
Does the following 'sound' angry? There was an earlier post sent to you alone. Did you respond? Did you agree? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 25, 2005 04:37 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk

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2005-04-25 Thread Caroline Wong
loud in my ears, I cannot hear what you say." Ralph Waldo Emerson Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell W

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2005-04-25 Thread Judy Taylor
quot; Ralph Waldo Emerson Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell What if one i

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2005-04-25 Thread Lance Muir
rg Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell What if one is actually not angry but, one is so perceived by others? - Original Message - From: Caro

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2005-04-25 Thread Caroline Wong
Truth without love is noise. The Apostle Paul - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell

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2005-04-25 Thread Lance Muir
: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell If the person does not feel he is angry but everyone else says it sure feels like it, then that person could a) continue as he is because what other people think does not matter or b) change communication style to reflect whom he

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2005-04-25 Thread Judy Taylor
ve, Caroline - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell

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2005-04-25 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell What if one is actually not angry but, one is so perceived by others?

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2005-04-25 Thread Lance Muir
OK - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 25, 2005 10:23 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Myth! Lance. It is possible for things

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2005-04-25 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: It is possible for things to be true and not God's Truth - there are two kinds of wisdom you know. I would like you to elaborate a little more on this concept, Judy. Is the concept of gravity God's truth or another kind of truth? If an atheist who is married thinks it would be

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2005-04-25 Thread Caroline Wong
That's a new one for me. What biblical reference is that? Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk

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2005-04-25 Thread Caroline Wong
David wrote to Judy: I seem to remember a post way back there that I meant to reply to but did not have time. You said something about sin being a spirit being. I don't think I have ever heard that concept before. Can you elaborate on this too? Are there any passages of Scripture where you

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2005-04-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell David wrote to Judy: I seem to remember a post way back there that I meant to reply to but did not have time. You said something about sin being a spirit being. I don't think I have ever heard that concept before. Can you elaborate on this too? Are there any

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2005-04-25 Thread Caroline Wong
I did once. The cat won. I have the scar to prove it. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Hell Caroline, just try

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2005-04-24 Thread Lance Muir
They most assuredly are not. That's why the likes of you, Linda and David cause me to fear for your nation. The Decline and Fall of .you know what! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 24, 2005 08:25