cd; Thank you for this post Bill.
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It may be "dualism," but it is notsymetrical, the evil having equal power
It may be helpful to distinguish between duality
and dualism.
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Taylor
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It may be "du
;Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may be helpful to distinguish between duality and dualism.
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It may be "dualism," but it is
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From: Lance Muir
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Sent: 2/3/2006 7:38:16 AM
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It may be helpful to distinguish between duality and dualism.
cd; Yeah what he said:-)
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NT evidence
suggests that one dayGodhimselfbecamea rebellious 12
year old
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wholly God and wholly fallen man
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Wow. This was great. Amen and amen.
D
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Guess again, Judy. Just because you can count to two is no evidence
that "dualism" has occurred. Dualism, when applied to human
nature, is not a characteristic count. That Christ is wholly God
and wholly Man is not a
Wholly good and ATST wholly evil is dualism JD - judyt
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And now that Christ has reconciled all things unto Himself --
what do we now suppose?? Further, Gal 3:26-27 speaks
of us being into Christ. Jesus speaks of You in me, I
What makes you think that Jesus was in control of the timing of his own
death JD? Scripture teaches that the times and seasons are in
the hands of the Father. Are you now saying that Jesus is the
Father? Manipulation is using devious means to get another to do
your
will without their consent
What makes you think that Jesus was in control of the timing of his own death JD? Scripture teaches that the times and seasons are in
the hands of the Father.Your scripture reference is ??And are you saying that the knowledge of the Father is not shared with the Son? And are you saying that
I am speaking of the nature of Christ.In Him, man and God work together as they should.Oneness, my dear. But, it you think it important to insist on otherwise, be my guest.
jd
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Wholly good and ATST wholly
Judy wrote:
... two opposite natures in the one person is just that.
It makes him doubleminded and a doubleminded man
is unstable in all of his ways. schizophrenic even.
No it does not. I have two natures in one person. My flesh is contrary to
my spirit. However, because I have received
pes of dualism which are
problematic.
Bill
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Wholly good and ATST wholly evil is dualism JD - j
as a person will
not change.
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Judy, your very style
David writes
I affirm [Judy's] position about Christ's
Divinity as much as I affirm Bill's position
about his humanity. I'm just patient that she
will, in time, understand.
Bill wrote:
David, I know you did not intend by your statement
to imply that I affirm only Christ's humanity while
'Home is the sailor, home from the sea. Yikes DM! Ya gonna trot this one
out again? Don't kick a dead horse, DM.
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David writes
I affirm [Judy's] position about Christ's
Divinity as much as I affirm Bill's position
about his humanity. I'm just patient that she
Bill are you aware that manipulation is sin? Backing a person into a corner with a "repent or fight" attitude has never been God's modus operandi although I do see it in the Crusades and Islam. You are wrong! My prayer for you is that you will eventually receive understanding from God, lay down
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Judy, your very style of response is that of the scornful. It is what you are about
Bill wrote:
... I agree with your critique of my (our)
approach. I backed Judy into a corner and
presented her with only two options: either
repent or FIGHT. My hope was that she would
choose the former; of course, she did not. Hence the
likelihood that I will be able to reach her at all is
IMHO DM is quite correct on this point. (Spoken as a frequent offender) LM
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Bill wrote:
... I agree
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Judy, your very style of response is that of the scornful. It is what you are about. But be that as it may.
What we believe is one thing, Jud
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Judy, your very style of response is that of the scornful. It is what you are about. But be that as it may.
What we believe is one thing, Judy. What we teach others
And are you aware that this is not the only reason for Bill's passion.? It is not sin to oppose a false doctrine. In fact, just the opposite is true.
Nothing innately sinful about manipulation, Judy. You have no scripture on this and will never have. The fact is this - Jesus used manipulation
JD wrote:
What does this mean: Your ideas will
change. You as a person will not change?
What I mean is that you, your identity, who you are, will not change.
However, your ideas will change. You are growing and maturing in your
thoughts and viewpoints. Therefore, any challenge I might
: Re: [TruthTalk] 'i DON'T UNDERSTAND' -David Miller'
JD wrote:
What does this mean: Your ideas will
change. You as a person will not change?
What I mean is that you, your identity, who you are, will not change.
However, your ideas will change. You are growing and maturing in your
thoughts
Two things.
1. Your manner of speech tells me what you think of me.
2. You are a dualist and I am not.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD wrote: What does this mean: Your ideas will change. You as a person will not change? What
JD anyone who states that Jesus Christ is wholly God and wholly man is a
dualist.
and this is you. judyt
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Two things.
1. Your manner of speech tells me what you think of me.
2. You are a dualist and I am not.
jd
Manipulation is sin JD. It is deception, working another person for
your own ends.
What's more it is not God's way. He gives his creation choices -
always. It is the adversary who is the
anger and control freak. You choose each day who you will
serve. judyt
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:59:55
myth (acc to Moses,
God Man are originally family, not categorically polar
opposites)
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:01:29 -0500 Judith H Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
wholly God and wholly man is a dualis[m]
..same with male
female--'made He them' says Moses
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:12:53 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (acc to
Moses, God Man are originally family, not categorically polar
opposites)
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:01:29 -0500 Judith H Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
And now that Christ has reconciled all things unto Himself -- what do we now suppose?? Further, Gal 3:26-27 speaks of us being into Christ. Jesus speaks of You in me, I in you and they in us. Kiss off dualism.
jd
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..same
Guess again, Judy. Just because you can count to two is no evidence that "dualism" has occurred. Dualism, when applied to human nature, is not a characteristic count. That Christ is wholly God and wholly Man is not a dualism. It is a statement of who Christ Incarnateis (He is still the Incarnate
If you mean to imply that "deception" is always sinfully wrong, then manipulation is not deception. You use manipulation often. "We're waiting, Bill !! Where is your anser Bill? Or , is this just another example of you taking your ball (gosh, I hope this is not another reference to King Dav
Lance wrote:
Judy preaches a 'Zirchon' (looks real but
isn't) Jesus and, you are not offended.
You are mischaracterizing Judy. Judy believes that Jesus is real.
Lance wrote:
You and yours appear comfortable in giving offence
(other than that given by the preaching of the GENUINE
JESUS) but
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: January 31, 2006 12:15
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Lance wrote:
Judy preaches a 'Zirchon' (looks real but
isn't) Jesus and, you are not offended.
You are mischaracterizing Judy. Judy
Lance wrote:
Which Jesus is 'real', David? I have every confidence
that who Jesis is matters to you. To the extent that Judy
influences others with her 'Jesus' she is not an influence
for good (teaching.)
Is Judy a teacher in the body of Christ?
Judy, would you clarify what you perceive to
The teaching of anti-Christ doctrine is not deserving of patience. It is far to dangerous a theology to be allowed without proper recognition. This forum is not a church. Judy's attendance, then, is "welcomed" on that basis. You, David, see "prophet(ess), apostle, bishop, evangelist and teacher "
JD wrote:
She has preached against the deity of
the incarnate Christ for a good long while
-- over a year.
This is not a proper characterization of what Judy believes. It is
difficult to discuss truth when one side constantly misrepresents what the
other side believes. Judy has never
The reasons for her difficulty and the history lesson constitute information that is more than obvious, David. Unnecessary.
She most definitely hasdenied that Jesus is God in the flesh.But you, of course, seem to think there are other matters that are more important, so maybe you missed it.
I
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Lance wrote:
Which Jesus is 'real', David? I have every confidence
that who Jesis is matters to you. To the extent that Judy
influences others
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:47:08 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:What was
revolutionary for them was..that he was [both] a man,[and] that he
was the Son of God..
JD you are too full of your own importance and you exaggerate everything out of all proportion; we are all just sheep - plain old professing believers and you say as many outrageous and outlandish things as the next person. I would not be found sitting in the seat of the scornful if I were you.
Judy, your very style of response is that of the scornful. It is what you are about. But be that as it may.
What we believe is one thing, Judy. What we teach others is another matter altogether. James' advice is "be not many [of you] teachers." Why? Because words shared can make a difference in
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