A reading from 1.1, Dogmatics, Word of God, p107 got me to thinking :
If we attach our understanding of scripture to scripture, if we, then, canonize "scripture," we make scripture tradition instead of what God intended it to be -- His self-revelation to man. If our understanding does not pass
John quoted Barth as saying:
More than anything else placed in the church,
the biblical record is the successor to the apostles.
Fair points about Barth's respect for the Bible, but he did miss it a little
with this statement, in my opinion. The apostles were and are the
successors to the
His reference is to the 12 and with that in mind, would you not agree?
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] John quoted Barth as saying: More than anything else placed in the church, the biblical record is the successor to the apostles.
John wrote:
His reference is to the 12 and with that
in mind, would you not agree?
No, I still think it puts the emphasis in the wrong place. Apostles are
basically doers of the Bible. The twelve would never had been if the
Biblical record had not come first. We have added some of their
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ithink I agree with this.
I hope you do because it is Jesus who said "I am the Way, the Truth the Life, no man comes to the Father BUT by Me" (John 14:6)
Hi Dean:
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the conclusion of
this debate.
The light is now giving to ALL men and Gods laws are written in the hearts
of ALL men
therefore they will have no excuse for rejection of Christ nor breaking the
Law-
I don't think I
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From: Judy Taylor
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Hi Dean:
cd: Hi Sis:-)
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help
This (the citations below) are Judy's choices oF
Scriptures which elucidate Judy's apprehension of what God has to say about
these matters. UNLESS YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR
FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you?) THEN, IT WILL ALWAYS BE THUS.
This response is to your saying
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out
loud
This (the citations below) are Judy's choices oF
Scriptures which elucidate Judy's apprehension of what God has to say about
these matters. UNLESS YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR
FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you
Well Lance, the only alternative I see is to use the
verses in Romans that you like and interpret them to fit your
extra Biblical doctrine - then cut the rest out.
Facts are "You must be born again" to inherit God's Kingdom.
If you don't think that what I wrote is God's Word then
you will
s issue so that we might move on.
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Well Lance, the only alternative I see
You are saying that the scriptures I cite below reflect
my apprehension of what God says rather than His and that if
I claim to know the mind of God on this matter then I
am claiming something that is above and beyond others on
TT who you call my "fellow believers"
Of course I disagree with
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loud
You are saying that the scriptures I cite below
reflect my apprehension of what God says rather than His and that
if
I claim to know the mind of God on this matter then I
am claiming something
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.
Judy Taylor wrote:
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in
agreement.Judy
Taylor wrote:
It is quite obvious, Judy. Never on TT before have two people been so
compatible. Must be the Qwanza, xmas, winter break spirit. :)
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We can
sue so that we might move on.
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From: Judy Taylor
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Well Lance, the only alternative I see is to use the verses in Romans that yo
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well. I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
When I write something like that, it is me thinking out loud, really !! I am reading scripture, looking up stuff, going over and over my post -- LETTING GOD WORK IN ME as I
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to
will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about
God. We can either attach
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:29:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy -- regarding being born again: do you think this is
something tht happens to a person from outside the person? Or, is new
birth the experience we have when our person is aligned with the God
within? jd
There is
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I don't read Terri's comment in a
positiveway, I think he is addressing something
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I don't
whileJC the
shepard-kinginformsus'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informsthe sheep going only to the Father, goingonly
through him
your idea of one
way? no such thing: arrogantly misrepresenting
JC,youpresenttwo antithetical 'ways', below--like oil and
water, another
Don't have any idea why this thing is changing colors on me.
Terry
Any way.Let me suggest
that at some point in everyone's life, God reveals Himself and offers
salvation to every individual. I say that because God is not willing
that any be lost, and if it is not His
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter
1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work
within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It
is all about God. We can either attach
I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The
dualism is all in your own head along with all the other isms.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:00:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
whileJC the
shepard-kinginformsus'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informsthe sheep going
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I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The dualism is all in your own head along with all
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will and
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6:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking
out loud
Close but, no cigar, Are you claiming, through your
citations pertaining to whatever issue is being discussed. to ALWAYS know the
mind of God on EVERY matter
maybe current
conservativeculture's root level dualistic tendencyalters the word
'word' in Jamesto 'Word'--apparently your dualism requires it, too,
butitain't written that way, M'am, e.g.,:
James 1:21(King James Version)
..receive with meekness the engrafted
word..
your innovative
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude whilethere is division in your own theology
fromyour own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined at
the hip todaycommunicate divergent theories
of'Christ')
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:34:50 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ithink I agree with
this.
I hope you do because it is Jesus
who said "I am the Way, the Truth the Life, no man comes to
Gary do you ever get weary from all this
psychobabble?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:14:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude whilethere is division in your own theology
fromyour own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined
at the hip
In addition to the following and previously posted comments - I was reading some scripture this evening that has associated value:
1. The fatherhood of God is implicit in old testament scriptures as He relates to the chosen people -- Exodus 4:22 “Then you will say to Pharaoh: This is what the
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