[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PREJust a comment - why does the Book of Mormon never mention the Passover?
DAVEH: Hmm...I don't know. I'm amazed that you would notice that from
reading the BofM! ;-)
This historical fact is something that can't be left out in either the history of
In a message dated 10/14/2002 2:15:33 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, why doesn't it mention Israel as a people or a nation?
The Bible mentions it 71 times and Christians and Jews alike
Israel wasn't established as a nation (the way we know it) until the 1940's. The
Blainer) To David. I deleted a whole bunch of stuff yesterday, and I
think your post on BH Roberts and the History of the LDS Church was one
of them. If you still have it, would you mind reposting it, please??
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:41:14 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:27:34 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Work Something we do to complete a task and it usually means
something
is received in return.I would say that doing good things as in
works are
a result of obedience to commands that Christ gave but they don't
save
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [TruthTalk] How should we examine Mormonism?
David Miller wrote:
For the record, I have never slandered Joe Smith.
To slander means to say something false
Following are my answers to the test:
True or False
1. Justification comes by Faith Alone (meaning only faith -- faith
without good works)
False
2. A person who says he has faith but not good works is justified
before God.
False
3. A person is condemned by works if his works are
Blainer) To my knowledge, JS never went looking for a fight. But if a
man wanted to get the best of him, he had to get some help, usually a
mob. I was actually saying more about the character of the men who
opposed him and distracted him, than about JS himself. The opposition
never acted out
Blainer) The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone through the
hands of the great and abominable church, it had been significantly
altered. Nothing is said against the original writers of the Bible.
They were clearly righteous men.
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:18:37 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Someone forwarded to me these url's. I thought some of you might be
interested.
Protestors to Church doctrine grow
http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/40183
LDS Church Set to Appeal Ruling
http://www.sltrib.com/10112002/utah/6086.htm
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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Let your speech
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:23:37 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David Miller wrote:
For
Michael D:
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] True or False Test
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:32:59 -0400
Following are my answers to the test:
True or False
1. Justification comes by Faith Alone
We need to consider the type of justification James is referring to here. The context is talking about the relationship between the Christian and his neighbor. In context James is saying that we are justified before man by our good works. Paul uses the same example in Romans 4 with Abraham. This
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:23:37 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [TruthTalk] How should we examine Mormonism?
David Miller wrote:
For
Blainer) Mormonism is not divided. There were only about 130 splinter
groups.None of them prospered. (Only a few left today) You call
that divided? (:)
The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS is the only one that gets up early in
the morning feeling excited about the day ahead and the many
Dear Blainer, you are a liar. Your definition of division is a lie hatched out of hell fire itself. I cannot believe anything liars say. Therefore anything you say in your posts to TT cannot be believed. If you tell the truth it will only be to mix a lie in with it.
I am repeating again. By
Blainer wrote:
To argue that the Bible in its present form is
as God intended it to be is a misnomer.
Why? Are you sure you are using the right word when you say misnomer?
Blainer wrote:
The men who had charge of the bible were often
unrighteous men.
So?
Blainer wrote:
God has always
David Miller wrote:
For the record, I have never slandered Joe Smith.
Blainer wrote:
But you just did, above--there WAS that dress as
evidence for Clinton's sinful behavior, but NO
EVIDENCE for JS! To draw a parallel between
the two makes no sense. You are just trying to link
the two
Blainer wrote:
The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone
through the hands of the great and abominable
church, it had been significantly altered.
Then why were you and Dave denying that the Book of Mormon said this? We
went round and round saying that the Book of Mormon claimed that the
PRESo Glenn, You are saying that faith alone is enough but that works are an
evicence of this faith - Right?? Laura
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do
Blainer wrote:
Why were Joseph Smith's enemies always such
a bunch of low-lifes?
This statement is completely irresponsible. Were there low-lifes that were
against Joseph Smith? Sure, but were all of his enemies low-lifes? Of
course not. Just one example: Alexander Campbell. Did Campbell
Glenn wrote:
We need to consider the type of justification James
is referring to here. The context is talking about the
relationship between the Christian and his neighbor.
Wrong.
I've heard this exegesis before my theologians who err on the side of grace.
Get your head out of their books
Blainer wrote:
Mormonism is not divided. There were only about
130 splinter groups.
ROTFL! Only 130? Of course that is divided!
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man.
Yes, However, one might need to define Biblical faith. Mormons seem to think intellectual belief is Biblical faith. It is not so.
I have faith (intellectual) that George Washington was Prez of the United States. This is the kind of faith the devil has. He believes in Jesus Christ, but he has not
Blainer) The BoM is a foreshortened history at best. As Mormon states,
Wherefore, it is an ABRIDGEMENT of the record of the people of Nephi.
There are many things pertaining to the law of Moses it does not mention.
It also states that the people of the BoM were more concerned with the
Blainer) For those doubting Brigham Roberts admiration of Joseph Smith
as a prophet of God, please read the following:
Finally, in a 1932 article, Joseph Smith: An Appreciation, the fire and
conviction of his youth came through as Roberts confessed his love and
respect for Joseph Smith, as an
Blainer) to DavidM. You wrote this about JS--
A man who drinks, cusses, enjoys a smoke, and regularly wrestles and
brawls
with people, well, that is not my idea of a man of God.
I found it unbelievable that you would go so far out on a limb--do you
have evidence that he did these things?, He
Blainer) I discussed my point of view extensively some time ago. I
refer you to that.
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:08:08 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Blainer wrote:
The BoM tells us that after the Bible had gone
through the hands of the great and abominable
church, it had
Blainer) I wrote a post about Joseph Smith having been commanded to
practice plural marriage (I do not accept your term womanizing )--it
had some good ideas in it. Did you read it? Here it is again, in case
you missed it.
DavidM wrote:
5. Do you agree that Joseph Smith lied to his wife
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