Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

He defends J.Smith for years DAVEH: As Ronnie Reagan used to put it...There you go again Dean! Do you really remember me defending JS? DAVEH: That's a curious comment, Izzy. Dean made a false accusation about me, and you seem to want to blame me.! Like I saidyou've

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

DAVEH: I'm not trying to manipulate you, Izzy. Nor is it my intention to make you feel guilty. I feel exactly as you.I have only spoken truth to you. ShieldsFamily wrote: You can't manipulate me into feeling guilty, DaveH. (Why do mormons try to use that manipulation tool more

[TruthTalk] Heavy Posting

DAVEH: Yikes..I think there were nearly 200 TT posts today (Tuesday)! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

DAVEH: Thank you for taking the time to respond, DavidM. I know you are a busy guy, and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. As I see it, when one goes to extremes to harmonize numerous apparent discrepancies to fit one's belief paradigm, it reduces the credibility of the believer. If

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Are you living in some kind of delusion Bill? My understanding of that text remains the same as it was, so please let's deal with reality here rather than presumption. jt On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:51:25 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are correct about my point, as was

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:20:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you see the word "perfected,"as used in Heb 10:14, what does that mean to you. How are we to understandthat we "have been perfected for ever by Christ?"Secondly, with this verse in mind, how have we been

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Bill, you and your Gk Dictionary cohorts are putting yourselves into a very definite doctrinalcorner here. How do you know God is not using the word sanctified to mean "set apart and/or consecrated" as an "unbelieving" wife would be by nature? The more you write the more outlandish and

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Thanks David. As I suspected, no illustrations. L - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 22, 2005 18:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm Lance wrote: Other than when speaking with the religious leaders,

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Key expression 'The way I see it'. As to the truthfulness of that, I concur. L - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 22, 2005 17:43 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm Lance wrote: However misguided he is

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Amen! God says "Woe unto those who call evil good" We are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them; for it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light;

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

He chased the thieves and mercenary out of the temple with a whip Lance. Are you now using Jesus as your example rather than SNL? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:30:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks David. As I suspected, no illustrations. From: "David Miller" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/22/2005 11:09:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor No mud slinging here jd cd: Kevin I think I hit a nerve on that one:-) Hey JD this has been going both ways-I am every thing from a

[TruthTalk] Who are the 'non-mud slingers' on TT-Read them as a model

Bill Taylor, David Christine Miller, Dave Hansen, "G'. IMO, of course. Even such as these have, on occasion, fallen prey to impatience. My thanks to the above for, as it were, holding our feet to the fire by example.

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/23/2005 3:00:19 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere! He defends J.Smith for yearsDAVEH: As Ronnie Reagan used to put it...There you go again Dean! Do you really remember me

Re: [TruthTalk] There is just ONE Model who has nothing to do with mud slingers or non mud slingers

See Subject line..above On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:48:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who are the 'non-mud slingers' on TT-Read them as a model Bill Taylor, David Christine Miller, Dave Hansen, "G'. IMO, of course. Even such as these have, on occasion, fallen prey to

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller****

- Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/23/2005 2:19:21 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller cd: Because I don't have the stringer from 3 years ago does not prove me wrong-There is another way We can ask DavidMiller if this

[TruthTalk] Re:WHO ARE THE NON MUD SLINGERS ON TT??

Bill, David Christine Miller, 'G', Dave Hansen (with occasional and understandable expressions of impatience) - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 23, 2005 06:58 Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WHO ARE THE NON MUD SLINGERS ON TT??

Selected: "if you live in a glass house...well you know." On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 07:06:29 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, David Christine Miller, 'G', Dave Hansen (with occasional and understandable expressions of impatience) From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

So there is a grand total of about 20 of you who are right . Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kevin writes Soo too most translations translators ONLY Bill the NIV committee and the NKJV translators got it right. Any others you know of? Let's not go down the ad-hom route, Kevin.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

So there is a grand total of about 20 of you who are right . Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kevin writes Soo too most translations translators ONLY Bill the NIV committee and the NKJV translators got it right. Any others you know of? Let's not go down the ad-hom route, Kevin.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

No I agree the past tense "circumvents" ENTIRELY You agree that it does circumvent the meaning of the gk text ??? Maybe if you cut paste whole sentences you would understand what I saidPerhaps reading the whole sentence might improve comprehension. How do you see "ONE OFFERING"

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Fair enough. Do you accept the present passive thrust of this verb? My impression is that you do not. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:15 AM

[TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

This is like a dog chasing it's tail and doing it in Greek compounds the problem. What difference is there betweena mistake and an error? Mistake: To err in opinion or judgment; An error in opinion or judgment, a misconcption 2. A slip; a fault; an error. There is a mistake in the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Oh, how so? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor Bill, you and your Gk Dictionary cohorts are

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

I have no idea what you are talking about Bill. However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the word "sanctified" in this instance means "set apart" in the same way that an unbelieving wife is "set apart" in 1 Cor 7:14 which is "set apart in the sense that she is become the object of focus

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

That's fine, Judy, but who in this discussion has argued that to sanctify does not mean the same as to set apart? That is not even a point of contention. Do you agree that this participle in Heb 10.14 reflect asanctification which is passive (i.e., the action is being performed by someone

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

"Mistakes" is the word Dean and I agreed to discuss, Judy. That is what I point out below. Why escalate the rhetoric with loaded words like "error," when that is not necessary? How is that helpful? Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understanding the active part of sanctificationrequires the cooperation of the one being sanctified; the kind of cooperation an unbeliever would be unable to give. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:11:28 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

The world "error" is not any more loaded than the word "mistake" so far as the dictionary is concerned Bill. I think it is helpful to know this and I don't see how or why knowing this would escalate anything. Please explain. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:18:03 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

We've all 'engaged' one another sufficiently to have a handle on 'who' we are? One is rarely surprised at the response of (insert name). This is not a 'shot'. It is, insofar as I'm capable of making one, an objective statement. Example:People whom we judge as unnecessarily inflammatory in

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

You are probably right, Lance. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor We've all 'engaged' one another sufficiently to have a handle

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

Who we are or who they are? You know Lance it's not easy to try and sort out what Bill is sayinghere with Plato sitting in the RH corner ... On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:28:55 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've all 'engaged' one another sufficiently to have a handle on 'who'

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

Right? Wait a minute ... did he say something? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:40:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are probably right, Lance. From: Lance Muir We've all 'engaged' one another sufficiently to have a handle on 'who' we are? One is rarely surprised

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

So Bill are youdiscouraged by negative comments from the gallery? Do you accept Lance's evaluations at face value? Have you decided in the light of these comments notto explain how mistake and error mean two different things (to you)? On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:15:59 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

Actually, Ro 1: 18-25 is a statement ofcircumstances failed and , as such, find the sinner given over to his own creation.Homosexuality is only one of 26 sins listed -- a list that was NOT intended to bea complete list, no doubt. Verses 18-25 applies to back-talking parents just as much as it

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Nowhere in the Bible am I told to respect the belief of others. cd "Why do you judge the servant of another. to his own master does he stand or fall AND HE WILL BE MADE TO STAND FOR GOD IS ABLE TO MAKE HIM STAND. " ( Romans 14:4) Romans 14 is all about respecting the beliefs of another to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

He did give such an explanation.Because you disagreed with his statement does not mean that he did not answer clearly and specifically. Jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

JD why do you hang everything on meats which is what is under dispute in Romans 14. In other places believers are told not to even eat with a brother given over to certain sins such as fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind, thieves, drunkards,

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

Then produce his "explanation" for me JD, since you read it. I must have missed it. Maybe it didn't come to my computer. jt On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:01:17 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He did give such an explanation.Because you disagreed with his statement does not mean that he

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

"Mistakes" is the word Dean and I agreed to discuss, Judy. That is what I point out below. Why escalate the rhetoric with loaded words like "error," when that is not necessary? How is that helpful? Bill-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

first of all, "meats" is not theissue being discussed. Judging the servant of another is. The issues surrounding the eating of meats and observing holy days gave Paul the circustance to discussion the principle described in 14:4. You need to practice what you preach. Jd-Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

My question JD was the difference between the word "mistake" and the word "error". The dictionary says they are one and the same. Bill claims that "error" is a loaded word whereas "mistake" is not. I asked him to explain the difference to me and this is what I am asking for. Do you have it??

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Sanctified means set apart for holy use. When I was saved I was set apart for holy usethen, now and forever. I can either allow that to continue, or I can interfere by choosing to sin instead. Its just that simple; forget the Greek, and dont waste your time arguing about it. izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

Read it over again JD. Romans 14 - Verses 1,2,3 are what Vs 4 relates to and it is all about vegetarian vs non vegetarian and judging a weaker believer on these grounds. It doesnot give license for every kind of sin which is how you consistently use it. Context JD, context. On Wed, 23 Nov

RE: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

We are perfected through the Blood of Jesus, which washes away our sins and delivers us from the power of sinning anymore. We can also choose to remain in the state of perfection forever by faith, or we can choose to walk like the world again. This is not difficult, class. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

How about during sex, DaveH? Ive read that youre supposed to leave them on then, too. True or false? izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:31 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:WHO ARE THE NON MUD SLINGERS ON TT??

Lance if you think Gary is not a mud-slinger YOU have mud in your eyes. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:06 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:WHO ARE THE NON MUD SLINGERS

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:42:23 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Ro 1: 18-25 is a statement ofcircumstances failed and , as such, find the sinner given over to his own creation. Romans 1 speaks of what happens to people who hold the truth in unrighteousness. That

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Right On!! How hard is that? I note that being perfected by the Blood of Jesus requires repentance from 'dead works' Thanks Izzy On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:36:32 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are perfected through the Blood of Jesus, which washes away our sins and

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

biblically, the holy spirit is our god, not merely yours On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:08:25 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..I am waiting for the Holy Spirit to give me the answers-leave me alone.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

AMEN!!! :) \0/ On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:29:31 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sanctified means set apart for holy use. When I was saved I was set apart for holy usethen, now and forever. I can either allow that to continue, or I can interfere by choosing to sin

Re: [TruthTalk] Corrector/revisor

Bill views one word as more "laoded" than the other. He stated that clearly. Now, whether you argree or disagree does not alter the fact that he gave an explanation. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

Get back to me when you come to a fair analysis of what I believe this passage is all about, will you? I am certainly not using this passage for a license to commit all manner of sin. If you think that I have, please present the reference and I willbe glad to give it some meaningful context

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

I think she said she understands the English and in the English it says Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair enough. Do you accept the present passive thrust of this verb? My impression is that you do not.Bill- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Where there is smoke there is fire- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorBill, you and your Gk Dictionary cohorts are

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

Judy wrote: There is no such animal as a "believing sinner" - Sin is sin, and righteousness is righteous. Abraham believed and it was counted to him for righteousness. The just shall live by faith.Amen, Judy! While I know we have never addressed this issue on TT before, I suspect

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Perhabs that is why NO ONE will post any additional scriptures that back up their Private Interpretation of the "ONE OFFERING as an ON GOING EVENT" Theology!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about Bill. However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Lance believes in an EFFEMINATE CULTURALY RELEVANT JesusJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:He chased the thieves and mercenary out of the temple with a whip Lance. Are you now using Jesus as your example rather than SNL?On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:30:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

And this from the guy who can't see any in the BoM Bible.. vs . . BoM But he can strain at a gnat while swallowing a camelDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Thank you for taking the time to respond, DavidM. I know you are a busy guy, and I appreciate you sharing your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Amazing how the devil jumps in and shuts it down just when it starts getting good isn't it?? I've seen it happen in the past also. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:58:40 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhabs that is why NO ONE will post any additional scriptures that back

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Wholsome words Judy!DROSSBurn it NOWOR He will BURN it LATER!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:20:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you see the word "perfected,"as used in Heb 10:14, what does that mean to you. How are we to

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

You defend JS? Does a the POPE swing smoke Eat Jesus cookies?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He defends J.Smith for yearsDAVEH: As Ronnie Reagan used to put it...There you go again Dean! Do you really remember me defending JS?DAVEH: That's a curious comment, Izzy. Dean made a false

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Key _expression_ 'The way I see it'. As to the truthfulness of that, I concur.L- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: November 22, 2005 17:43Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

I was jokingWhen you stand before a Holy God who is about to cast you FOREVER from His Presence, as you are given one last word, you will sayI listened to IZZY and decided to stay in my False Religion Did you always blame your Brothers Sisters as a kid when Mom caught you in that cookie

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

Oh I agree Christine and I believe that some of the confusion is engendered by the many Bible translations but as you point out this can be overcome if one really sets their heart to know the Lord. Last week our BSF lesson was so good - in it they noted that "Though the actual language and

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Neither will heacknowledge that Jesus chased thieves out of the temple yet he castigates DavidM for chasing a thief at the University of Florida On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:12:37 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Kevin it looks as though things have changed today and those professing godliness don't need to be vexed by the filthy conversation of the wicked like just Lot, DavidM and others of you/us, because today it can be called "failed circumstances" and after allas JD writes "The point of the

[TruthTalk] Merry Christmas is NOT Offensive

Wise words again from Rabbi Lapin! Merry Christmas is NOT OffensiveJews Should Protect Religious Freedom for Everyone. Rabbi Daniel Lapin Toward Tradition Well, December is nearly here which means the dreaded C word is upon us. Put politely, the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

How about the sentence strucre and the meaning How does it interact with something that has occured ONCE for all Not as an ONGOING EVENT? In what waysis Jesus Christs ONE OFFERING (the subject) "NOT COMPLETE"?Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fine, Judy, but who in this

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Why don't you share with us some of the Urban legends LDS pass around, about how peole were saved when their Undergarments did not burn in a fire etc.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mormons have to leave them on even while taking a bath-They slide them to one side and wash one half of

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understanding the active part of sanctificationrequires the cooperation of the one being sanctified; the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Basically it is a question of do/done Cultists must DO Jesus Chrst has DONEWhich side are you on? RCC/JW/LDS/any other ism DO Christianity which is DONE at CalvalryThe Christian is DONE and the CULTISTis still trying to DO INCOMPLETE / ONGOING EVENT / EXALTATION / NOT YET

Re: [TruthTalk] DO/DONE

What is the difference between this RCC and a MORMON?A modern pilgrim fleeing from The City of Destruction came upon a brightly-lighted building with this bold title. Knowing the need of his heart was true religion, the pilgrim entered the store. Explaining his need of deliverance, the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Oh, then if this is so I don't agree with Bill on that point either. We've moved on from bulls and goats; the blood of the eternal sacrifice isonce and for all time. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:57:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

All true Kevin but ATST I know you will say Amen to "working out your/our own salvation with fear and trembling" because this too isGod's Word (Phil 2:12) though most assuredly not in the way the cults you list below teach. On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:18 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

And Dean is not a Servant of God doing what he believes God would hanve him to do? PREACH!Why do you Judge Dean? Why NOT Practice? We know you don't preach.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:first of all, "meats" is not theissue being discussed. Judging the servant of another is. The issues

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

I wonder if he would chase a THIEF out of his store?I bet he would do some PUBLIC PREACHING as he chased the THIEF down the street too!"STOP THIEF!""STOP THIEF!" "STOP THIEF!"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither will heacknowledge that Jesus chased thieves out

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

The other reason is that there are no such scriptures! Maybe that is the "DEEPER" meaning of the word PRIVATE as in Interpretation. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazing how the devil jumps in and shuts it down just when it starts getting good isn't it?? I've seen it happen in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.the truth which is after godliness Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

We are positionally perfected by the shed blood of the sacrifice made for our sins, John. The Father sees us as perfect as He sees the Son. We, however, are still playing catch up, trying to live up to our position. Obviously, everyone on this list is still a few steps behind and working to

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

What say ye Bill? Skip the GREEK just shine on us the EXPOSITION of the ENGLISH below:Do you agree that this participle in Heb 10.14 reflect asanctification which is passive (i.e., the action is being performed by someone other than the subject) and not yet complete? BillJudy Taylor [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Kinda shows whose side hes on, doesnt it? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:19 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Standing versus State see belowTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We are positionally perfected by the shed blood of the sacrifice made for our sins, John. The Father sees us as perfect as He sees the Son. (STANDING) We, however, are still playing catch up, trying to live up to our

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Lance wrote: Other than when speaking with the religious leaders, will you illustrate Jesus doing something comparable? David Miller wrote: Why are you exempting religious leaders? Are you not aware of the religious people of our day? The homosexuals are a religious people. Their culture

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

AFA a response to God's great love NOT as a attempt to Approach Him or make oneself acceptable to HimJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All true Kevin but ATST I know you will say Amen to "working out your/our own salvation with fear and trembling" because this too isGod's Word (Phil

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Actually, Bill, English does not have a middle voice, so your example below is only an approximation. I think this is important to keep in mind, less we beoverly dogmatic about how aparticular textshould read. Some homework for you: how would you be able to distinguish between middle and

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Bill wrote: That others followed the KJ lead in this instance is unfortunate, to say the least, but it does not exonerate them or the KJV. They too are mistaken in this instance. How can you be so dogmatic about them being mistaken? What convinces you that they are wrong to translate as are

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Bill wrote: The writer to the Hebrews uses the passive participle on numerous occasions (see, e.g., my post to Kevin). Sure, for other words, but I have searched the Scriptures and Papyri for hagiazomenous and I cannot find its usage in other sentences. Words often take on nuances and

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Aw, Bill, you know this passage is not the same. This is a perfectparticiple "hegiasmene" not a present passive, so I'm not sure what your point is. David M. - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005

Re: [TruthTalk] UF update

Good advice, Dave! David M. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] UF update DAVEH: Let me offer you some free advice, Dean. Pay the thief and sleep

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Hi Dave. I don't think you canimaginethe joy I get whenharmonizing somepassages. I agree that some peoplecarry it too far if they are not open to the idea that there might just be mistakes. Nevertheless, those who are too eager to accept mistakes miss out on some interesting study. When

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

JD wrote: I think Bill's point (correct me if I am wrong, Bill) is that the KJ translation gives us a past tense translation of a present tense participle. There is no good reason for doing such and in that context, it is a mistake. I did not understand Bill this way, but if that is what he

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

I heard a favorite campus preacher of mine once preach Romans 1 to a group of students. The title of his message was, "The 23 characteristics of a homosexual." Perhaps you should read Romans 1 again with this perspective in mind, that these 23 sins are exactly defining exactly what is wrong

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Well for the EDIFICATION of all on TT This is exactly the road we travel on when we enter into the greek game. Endless arguments about the sense of "being" versus the nuaances of "having been" Perhaps this explains why there are 27 editions of the "corrected" Greek text AND counting! Why the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Terry -- our disagreement over the place of "catch up" is the difference between "push" and "pull." I have preached and taught for years that what gets us saved, keeps us saved. I obey nothing because I have to. My obedience is Spirit filled and Spirit led -- I am constrained by love (as Paul

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So which is it, Kevin. the Greek text or the KJV? You are arguing with greek MSS , not with Bill. And all the MSS say exactly the same thing in thiscase. The problem, here, is that you do not understand how God can view us as perfected when, in fact, we have a long way to go

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond

Makes for good homily, I am sure. -Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:08:53 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 1:18-32 and beyond I heard a favorite campus preacher of mine once preach Romans 1 to a group

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:06:28 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor JD wrote: I think Bill's point (correct me if I am wrong, Bill) is that the KJ translation gives us a past tense

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ShieldsFamily wrote: We are perfected through the Blood of Jesus, which washes away our sins and delivers us from the power of sinning anymore. We can also choose to remain in the state of perfection forever by faith, or we can choose to walk like the world again. This is

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

There is no end to defending myself -- so I won't get started. If the context of my statements do not resolve the issues, nothing else I will say could possibly help. Please note, however, that nothing in what I said is untrue -- nothing in what I said is actually refuted. Elementary recess

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