Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
DAVID:We await your response to the specific post re:DM/SIN Was it not you whomade the christology/sin along with the ideaological/pragmatic distinction? DAVID:It may be that not unlike the cast in 'Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room' that though your Greek grammar, logic, vocabulary

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Addendum:"Christian theology is more immediately a practical than a speculative discipline, and such speculation as it harbors stands ultimately in the service of right worship, right confession of Christ, and right living. Right practice demands, of course, critical and constructive

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm glad for you Lance because if you did the only sign it would be isa sign of your ignorance. Thisshould read as follows: "BEHOLD DAVID MILLER, REDEEMED FROM THE CURSE, ONE WHO IS BOUGHT WITH A PRICE AND WHO IS PRESENTLYTHE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN CHRIST RESIDES AT THIS HOME". Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
EVERYONE IS, JUDY. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 07:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative I'm glad for you Lance because if you did the

[TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Plus..fill in your name if you do not/will not sin in thought/word/deed...I'd settle for today.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/18/2006 12:14:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Gary appears to be 'reading the same bible' as I am, Dean. Hm? I guess the obvious question would then

RE: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:03:38 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Plus..fill in your name if you do not/will not sin in thought/word/deed...I'd settle for today. cd: If I do sin then it will be

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:15:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. I am truly at a loss myself Dean, when I encounter those who do not agree with that which God has shown so clearly in

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Praise God for yesterday, Dean and, may the Lord deliver you from sin completely and utterly today, Dean. Do you ever go under the pseudonym of either Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
I don't know you as God knows you, Dean. However, from what I read it'd appear that your 'soul'' (have you actually got one of those?) is in no danger. You just disagree with me along with a multitude of other believers. No surprise there, Dean. - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:39:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. I don't know you as God knows you, Dean. However, from what I read it'd appear that your 'soul'' (have you actually got

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Just one (1) gospel, Dean. Mine. Seriously Dean, you've obviously read the Scriptures with some care and, developed from that 'reading' a pretty decent theology. It is but one (1) of a myriad of theologies extant throughout the believing communities worldwide. Relax Dean, I've no doubt that

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 8:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Praise God for yesterday, Dean and, may the Lord deliver you from sin completely and utterly today, Dean. Do you ever go under the

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Unbreakable was directed by someone who fascinates me (M. Night Shyamalan). Believers fall into the 'ordinary but redeemed' category, Dean.We can be and, are SH V. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 09:34

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 9:24:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. Just one (1) gospel, Dean. Mine. Seriously Dean, you've obviously read the Scriptures with some care and, developed from

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
You really don't know do you, Dean? Thanks for your concern, Dean. I'm confident to be found in that day in Him. When I read SOME of that 'theologizing' done by DM, CD, JT et al, I'm confident that not one but THAT ONE is without sin. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 9:53:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Unbreakable was directed by someone who fascinates me (M. Night Shyamalan). Believers fall into the 'ordinary but redeemed' category,

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
Born from above, born again, redeemed, converted, participants in the vicarious humanity of Jesus, believers, Christians etc. etc. Such are like those who participate on TT. Such are capable of greatness and the opposite. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:11:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. You really don't know do you, Dean? Thanks for your concern, Dean. I'm confident to be found in that day in Him. When I

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:27:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin Born from above, born again, redeemed, converted, participants in the vicarious humanity of Jesus, believers, Christians etc. etc.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
The remarkably brazen confidence shown by you, DM and JT with respect to your own abilities is quite astounding, CD. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 10:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H.

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Lance Muir
The moral and the immoral alike stand in equal need of redemption. IMO, you DM apply this to the 'immoral' only. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 19, 2006 10:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread David Miller
I'm saying he was comparing a hypothetical original (pre-Koine) with modern (post-Koine), so the answer is NO to all your questions. David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread David Miller
You do not care about translations, but you should. Translators attempt to use the word form that best conveys the meaning of the text. In contrast, sophists tell us what the Greek really says while ignoring the words that true translators end up using. I don't understand many of your

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:34:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. The remarkably brazen confidence shown by you, DM and JT with respect to your own abilities is quite astounding, CD.

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/19/2006 10:37:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus is without sin The moral and the immoral alike stand in equal need of redemption. IMO, you DM apply this to the 'immoral' only. cd: The moral have

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread David Miller
Lance, I am among those who keep the commandments of Jesus and walk in love. I have stated such many times. I believe the Lord is able to keep me from sin and transgressions for the rest of my life. Those who are born of God do not sin. This is reality. Deception comes from those who say

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Not true Lance; EVERYONE is not the righteousness of God in Christ On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:01:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: EVERYONE IS, JUDY. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

[TruthTalk] ***Moderator Comment***

2006-02-19 Thread Dean Moore
To all TT's-John will no longer be on this list-I gave him a fair opportunity to apologize for his behavior and he elected not to. As Moderator it is my duty to see that others are treated with some degree of respect. I am not responsible for events of Ad.Hom style attacks in the past but while

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
apparently amongthose completely misunderstandg the NT On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:30:15 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I am among those who keep the commandments of Jesus and walk in love.

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
..supplanting the NT withdoctrinal dualism administratedthrough force On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:45:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apparently amongthose completely misunderstandg the NT On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:30:15 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I am among

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
..A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
..the obedience in loveofthe Lamb,the saintly faithfulness adequate in itself for the Lord Godhimself, below,is loston *the legalist's(lack of) obedience to the letter of the law, whose cursory categories of law love,whilemating in the motion of themind,aremostly mutually exclusive,

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
"God's commandments": "Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength...the LORD loved you and..and redeemed you" Deuteronomy 6,7 NIV On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:56:37 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the obedience in loveofthe

Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Present Indicative

2006-02-19 Thread ttxpress
..yeh, like divorced On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:56:37 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..the obedience in loveofthe Lamb,the saintly faithfulness adequate in itself for the Lord Godhimself, below,is loston *the legalist's(lack of) obedience to the letter of the law, whose cursory