Looks like neither of you have read the prophets,
or books in the Bible such as Lamentations where God's
own ppl are literally "judged by fire" Yes He is
merciful and longsuffering but even God haslimits; also we
are to adjust to His understanding gentlemen since we
are the ones in need ofa
Ah, the Good News -- and it is so different from the Old Law !! Wow!!
You have no idea which is Old Testament and which is New Testament. You do not see the Cross as that which ends the Law through fulfillmentand Begins the administration of Grace apart from Law (there has always been grace, of
As different as the old God is from your own
specialized new god JD
Why is His Law which is holy, just, and good, such a
threat to you? I find this a curiosity. Since
God's law reflects His nature and character. How
can one profess to love Him and ATST
reject His Word? You explain. The Words
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'inspections' rankamong prerequisites for Satan to 'appear' (lookin' like jt's God to you)
cd: Using wisdom in the inspection
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the grammarof the verse, below,is structured carefullyby a non-judgmental authorthrough the power of the HS--it follows the
To David Miller:
Shall we break this down into its component parts?
Shall we make an attempt at brevity?
1.Please define 'believer'
2. Can a 'believer' sin over an extended period of
time a. wilfully b. ignorantly?
3. Please outline the role of 'believing' women a.
within the 'believing'
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intrinsically, below,you've postured yourself to(be) Judge
cd: Then by your own standards you are judging Miller for being a
How and, in what way is this 'sounding
familiar'?
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Dean:As to the 'God/god' of the Bible:Why is it,
Dean, David, Judy, Perry, that all 'believers' don't, while inhabited by the
same Holy Spirit, come to the same conclusions re:The 'God/god' of the Bible?
through that selfsame Bible?Do some sin against that Spirit? IFF
'believers' then, how
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In the biblical concept of the church
I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not revelation,
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the Judge himself actually judges ppl with understanding, gentlemen--he engenders understanding with wisdom and righteousness as
Are you looking for a fortune teller
Lance?
My guess would be that some are inhabited by religious
spirits rather than the Holy One and that
doctrines of men have blinded their eyes while giving
them a false peace which tells them that walking
in God's ways and striving to enter the narrow
Dean:
'birth of a cult'?
'group thinking-no standards to point out
error'?
'see why your group don't like preaching such as
David (Miller) does'?
These are rather serious accusations, Dean. These
are certainly not borne out when reading the 'group' via TT.
I had a rather lengthy
.Amen Dean,
JD I figure you were thinkingofProverbs
11:14b when you wrote what you say below ie: "in the multitude of
counsellors there is safety" However the
"counsellors" referred to in Proverbs ARE those of God's Word or
the Biblical text as you call it. Theyall
say the same thing by the
BSF/Groupthink? Hmm
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Sent: February 14, 2006 07:27
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understanding
.Amen Dean,
JD I figure you were
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As different as the old God is from your own specialized new god JD
Why is His Law which is holy, just, and good, such a threat to you? I
find this a curiosity. Since
God's law reflects His nature and
JD wrote:
Yet, it is perfectly clear that some [bizarre]
doctrinal comments are not the result of the
direction of the Spirit and need no refutation.
Have you ever considered that you don't know everything and that you have in
some cases dismissed teachings of the Spirit coming through
NOW GARY ILLUSTRATES THE PROBLEM!
Some people on TruthTalk are playing a game and they are in competition
against others, while others are trying to work together on the same team.
Some are trying to trip up others, cause them to strike out with the best
pitch they can make, while others are
Gary, are you implying that the Holy Spirit only speaks in this pattern?
What is your judgment about Stephen in Acts 7? The Scriptures say that he
was full of the Holy Ghost when he said the following:
Acts 7:51-54
(51) Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist
Jesus fulfilled God's Law
and we are also to fulfill it through Him .. and this is not - He does it and we get the credit while
still in our mess. It is He gave us the example and we follow "in His steps" to do likewise. judyt
Really !! This will make no difference to you, I am sure, but it
If you are provoked by my questions about your posts, the responsibility is
not in my methods as much as it is in your lack of humility to explain. I
have only asked for explanation, not accused you of anything. Now you have
me wondering if there was a more sinister explanation than I had
DM says 'personally I don't see tt as a game'. Y'all seem to enjoy playing
'gotcha' from time to time, David. The correction you posted yesterday (?)
was an example. Your reference to invulnerability since age 8 was yet
another. Some, David, of that which you do little short of outstanding.
JD wrote:
It appears there are two judges --
The Judge and The Impostor. If judgment
has to do with bringing ppl into the relationship
[and such is the only judgment presented to the
modern day saint] , the judgment is easily assessed.
Drive them [the ppl] away and the judgment is not
of
'Last days'?? What do you mean, David?
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JD wrote:
It appears there are two judges --
The Judge and
'Mousey'? Synonyms please.
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If you are provoked by my questions about your posts, the responsibility
is
Amen, Judy! Very well said.
David Miller.
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Looks like neither of you have read the
prophets, or
I will ignore the ad hom lead-in and answer the only question of substance in your post: no.
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD wrote: Yet, it is perfectly clear that some [bizarre] doctrinal comments are not the result of the
Lance wrote:
1.Please define 'believer'
Someone who believes in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and has
experienced being born again from above, who thereafter receives the Holy
Spirit to lead and guide him into all truth. A believer is rigtheous and
walks as Jesus walked.
Lance
Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with who believes the following:
1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh being changed afterwards.
2. Christ is not the "eternal "
Your theology confuses the old with the new and has as its primise the fantasy that you must be about the same type of judgment as that of Christ. Nothing could be more false. It flies in the face of Romans 14:4 and denies that God in Christ and He alone is my judge and Master in matters of faith
My comment has to do with what we do as "judges." Your scripture has to do with what God does as judge. I would have thought you would have noted the difference with my comment. Obviously not. I have given you the scriptures that have to do with my point of view (I Cor 5:11-13 and Romans 14:4). I
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It ain't up to you Dean, to 'allow' a fool to continue in her/his folly. My goodness, just look at TT!
cd: That is not
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Dean:As to the 'God/god' of the Bible:Why is it, Dean, David, Judy, Perry, that all 'believers' don't, while inhabited by the same Holy Spirit,
cd: Judy the most concern that prompted my below reply to John was his earlier statement of the God is who the group decides He is-tie that to his lower statement and you have a cult.
John wrote:I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not revelation, certainly interpretation or
cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements that have been taken out of context-but you are incorrect.By the way who is the BSF?
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BSF/Groupthink? Hmm
cd; Group thinking come from psychology.People are prone to go with the direction of the overall
Dean !!! Would you p[lease slow down and proof read you comments. Read this out loud and you will see what I mean. .
cd: Judy the most concern that prompted my below reply to John was his earlier statement of the God is who the group decides He is-tie that to his lower statement and you have
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Dean:
'birth of a cult'?
'group thinking-no standards to point out error'?
'see why your group don't like preaching such as David
Aahhh --- from you two, mostly from Judy.
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cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements that have been taken out of context-but you are incorrect.By the way who is the BSF?
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Dean !!! Would you p[lease slow down and proof read you comments. Read this out loud and you will see what I
Secondly, I never said that the group defines God. Such is a lie and I am tired of it.
cd: Do you remember my replying "What if they decide He is a calf? Others do-I am not lying John-but I forgive you.
I do not care what you said. Do you understand that comment? I am talking about what I
John, are you getting paranoid? Nobody accused you of preaching the
occult. Also, I hope youunderstand the difference between 'cult' and
'occult.'
David Miller.
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When you talk about what we do as judges, do you mean in the resurrection
when we judge angels or now? I don't understand what you are trying to say
or why this would make any difference.
The passages for your point of view are not as direct as the ones that I
shared. The 1 Cor. 5 passage
John, if it is any consolation, I understood your post and appreciated it.
Dean has a valid point too, but it does not invalidate your point, which is
what I guess you are trying to say.
John, do you understand the value of having a standard (Scripture) and
anointed leaders within the body of
What does your question (the first one) have to do with anything I have written in this post? You lost me.
Certainly. Both words actually apply -- one leading to the other. I will leave it to your imagination as to what order I might place these two words asa resultof what I have witnessed on
My question was in reaction to:
Accusing me of preaching the occult is not going to
fly.
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Dean did prove his point with this passage. The passage teaches that
Scripture is profitable for these things. Your characterization that Dean
has authority to go out into the world pointing fingers of judgment is
false. It only exists in your mind.
The 1 Cor. 5 passage deals with how to
1. I believe that I Cor 5: 9-13 is plain enough for you. The problem lies in your predilection to [perhaps] a number of intersecting and personal teachings. Such teachings cannot be grafted into this passage and so you have problems. Such happens to all of us, of course. Your situation is far
John, if it is any consolation, I understood your post and appreciated it. Dean has a valid point too, but it does not invalidate your point, which is what I guess you are trying to say.John, do you understand the value of having a standard (Scripture) and anointed leaders within the body of
Occult has to do with esoteric and these areoften thebasis of much of what we call cults. As I said before, one gives rise to another. If we do not agree on this , fine. I did not agree with your definition of "believer" as presented to Lance,seeing in that defintion a confusion of terms. Gnats
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Jesus fulfilled God's Law
and we are also to fulfill it through Him .. and this
is not - He does it and we get the credit while
still in our mess. It is He gave us the example
and we follow "in His steps" to do
this has an NT ring
to it that has nothing to do with JC and
hisfollowers
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..street preachers tell others (lost people)
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