Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-13 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/12/2005 12:10:32 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE I think the twelve tribes did each have one of the zodiac signs as its symbol-- Joseph was Taurus (each horn of the bull representing one of his sons

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-12 Thread Dean Moore
cd: How old was J.Smith when he did these great feats? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/11/2005 10:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Else how could joe have moved them According to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon

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2005-12-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AEElse how could joe have moved them According to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon was “engraven on plates which had the appearance of gold, each plate was six inches wide and eight inches long and not quite so thick as common tin The volume

RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:42 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Sounds like a tough neighborhood. Joe must have been as full of grit as bad bad Leroy Brown

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2005-12-12 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks for that, Iz. Very discerning! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 12, 2005 09:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE JSmith’s story is typical of the type of stories told by sociopaths. I

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2005-12-12 Thread Blainerb473
feats? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/11/2005 10:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Else how could joe have moved them According to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine writes: The Book of Mormon is the word of God I'm sure you know already that I don't buy that Blaine; God's Words never contradict themselves, he is not confused. Thanks for your concern but to the contraryI am content, I enjoy my life, God has always been faithful so I'm not

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
of material that I'd not recommend to everyone. Who wouldn't? - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 00:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Lance, post a link to your bookstore so we can check out

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
See my response to CPL. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 22:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE That's interesting Lance!! If I do not soon find my copy I may buy another from

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
So Satan told the Truth as far as "ye shall be as" But God left this info out, and did not tell them the "WHOLE TRUTH"?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/9/2005 8:15:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lie that Satan perpetrated in the garden

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2005-12-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Who's he?Apparentlt the guy who designed the stars on your TEMPLES! No wonder there is the sign of Baphomet all over your temples as Joe was a Freemason.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/10/2005 12:24:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Iheard

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2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
How amazing - This situation completely reverses everything Woe until them that call evil goodandgoodevil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!! (Isa 5:20) On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:34:04 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/11/2005 8:34:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE So Satan told the Truth as far as "ye shall be as" But God left this info out, and did not tell them the "WHOLE TRUTH&quo

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2005-12-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, I was not asking for recommendations, just asking you to post a link to your bookstore so we can check out your wares. From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005

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2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
Charles Perry Locke!! I KNEW what you were asking! Let go this anti-thingy Charles. - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 09:35 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Lance, I was not asking

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2005-12-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
is an anti-thingy? From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:44:47 -0500 Charles Perry Locke!! I KNEW what you were asking! Let go this anti-thingy Charles

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
mode'. PS:I don't have a link. - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 09:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE But you see, lance, it is almost impossible to have a straight conversation

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2005-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
You are not, therefore, culturally relevant. iz -Original Message- PS:I don't have a link. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
-- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 09:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AEBut you see, lance, it is almost impossible to have a straight conversation with you. I ask a quaestio

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2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
Like this is just us..eh? We in the 'Great White North' , hosers all, salute you. with our beer and back bacon. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 10:21 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE You

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2005-12-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:15:00 -0500 I believe you mean to use the word ABSTRUSE instead of OBTUSE do you not, Charles? How are you able to MODERATE when you misperceive so regularly

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2005-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Mozel Tov! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 9:33 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Like this is just us..eh? We in the 'Great White North' , hosers all

RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 12/11/2005 10:21:58 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE You are not, therefore, culturally relevant. iz cd: Did he say link or clue? -Original Message- PS:I don't have

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
I said the former but meant both, Dean. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 11:58 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE [Original Message] From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk

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2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
YIKES!!! Ya know I never thunk of THAT!! No wonder income is so small. Thanks Dean. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 11:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE [Original Message] From: Lance Muir

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 12/11/2005 12:01:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE YIKES!!! Ya know I never thunk of THAT!! No wonder income is so small. Thanks Dean. cd: Just write All Canadians Welcome on a sign

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Muir
PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 11, 2005 12:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE [Original Message] From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 12/11/2005 12:01:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE YIKES!!! Ya know I never

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Blainerb473
The Book of Mormon was translated to English from a set of gold plates by Joseph Smith Jr. The plateswere an abridgement of more extensive records by a Nephite named Mormon,and his son, Moroni. In a message dated 12/10/2005 9:19:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
ject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AEDate: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:04 -0500I SELL this book. It's excellent! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 13:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE As you should know by now, I do

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2005-12-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Else how could joe have moved them According to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon was “engraven on plates which had the appearance of gold, each plate was six inches wide and eight inches long and not quite so thick as common tin The volume was something near six inches in

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2005-12-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Sounds like a tough neighborhood. Joe must have been as full of grit as bad bad Leroy Brown. Kevin Deegan wrote: The plates were secreted about three miles from home... Joseph, on coming to them, took them from their secret place, and, wrapping them in his linen frock, placed them under his

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Blainerb473
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:50 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Judy you're just too fixed on a one bible only theme. You would enjoy your life more

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread ttxpress
you dohave a certainquality of faith--how would you describe its characteristics? On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:22:17 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Book of Mormon was translated to English from a set of gold plates by Joseph Smith Jr. The plateswere an abridgement of more

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: "and ye shall be as the gods, knowing good and evil," was actually the truth--the lie was that they would not die. Satan often pairs the truth with a lie so as to give the lie credibility--politicians often do the same thing, as do Street Preachers :)

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE--Dave's clarifying explanation

2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
Nice explication, Dave--I should have it printed off and give it out next time I teach a SS class-- Blainerb In a message dated 12/9/2005 12:35:10 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Sorry to take so long getting back to you on this, Lance. While I can give you

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
"Ready and Able?" Yeah, I heard about them two. In a message dated 12/9/2005 5:55:41 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They had another brother called Ready[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make

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2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: It sounds good and true to me. Why are you even asking a question like that? In a message dated 12/9/2005 5:58:18 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin: Are you willing to BET your Life on this? They did not seem to be aware of their nakedness

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
As you should know by now, I do not believe the Bible to be the only source of spiritual enlightenment! :) I have a book titled Lost Books of the Bible, in which there are accounts that are written as being true, but were not accepted by those who made the final decisions of what should

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Lance Muir
I SELL this book. It's excellent! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 13:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE As you should know by now, I do not believe the Bible to be the only

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Because your ETERNAL DESTINY depends on it![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: It sounds good and true to me. Why are you even asking a question like that?In a message dated 12/9/2005 5:58:18 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Kevin: Are you willing to BET your

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE--Dave's clarifying explanation

2005-12-10 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thanx Blaine. However, I am curious whether or not you disagree on any of the details, or if you would add anything to it? (And I am aware that there is much that could be added, however for the purposes of explaining the basic outline to Lance, I didn't think it would serve any purpose

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Iheard that there was abook explaining how the earth is the center of the UniverseIt probably has as much truth as your book. If I give you chapter verse out of this book? so what!Are Anton Laveys books good for your "spiritual Enlightenment"? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As you should

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 13:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE As you should know by now, I do not believe the Bible to be the only source of spir

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2005-12-10 Thread Dave Hansen
t of thing I was looking for. YES I'd like for you to post the 'newer' material. thanks, Lance - Original Message ----- From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 09, 2005 02:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

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2005-12-10 Thread Terry Clifton
Just more speculation/ human logic. == Dave Hansen wrote: YES I'd like for you to post the 'newer' material DAVEH: I'm not fond of borrowing material from another forum to post in its entirety, but I find Court Watch's

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2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/9/2005 8:15:44 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lie that Satan perpetrated in the garden of Eden to deceive Eve is still alive today in some cults..."and ye shall be as gods".Perry Blainerb: "and ye shall be as the gods, knowing good

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 13:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE As you should know by now, I do not believe the Bible to be the only source of spiritual enlightenment! :) I have a book

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2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/10/2005 12:24:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Iheard that there was abook explaining how the earth is the center of the UniverseIt probably has as much truth as your book. If I give you chapter verse out of this book? so what! Are

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Blainerb473
04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I SELL this book. It's excellent! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 10, 2005 13:34 Subject: Re: [Tr

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2005-12-10 Thread ttxpress
who are its authors? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:49:39 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. The Book of Mormon is the word of God ||

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2005-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:50 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Judy you're just too fixed on a one bible only theme. You would enjoy your life more if you would loosen up on that point

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2005-12-10 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, post a link to your bookstore so we can check out your wares. From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:04 -0500 I SELL this book. It's excellent

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Life , in the garden. jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:27:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE So Cain and Abel were children # 1 and #2. and when Cain killed Able -- who was he

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:45:44 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: being over protective through fear is one thingDAVEH: That seems to be a tactic of some Christians. For instance, the whole commonly believed scenario about hell being a literal punitive torturous form of

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:04:35 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: It is not that I disagree with what you said below, Judy.But, I think you've gone off topic. We are discussing AE's transgression, not our own. As soon as they were cast out of the Garden for their

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Taylor
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE So Cain and Abel were children # 1 and #2. and when Cain killed Able -- who was he afraid of -- I mean, where did those people come from? I personally believe that Adam

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2005-12-09 Thread Taylor
Agreed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
What is the evidence? On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:20:21 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal,"

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2005-12-09 Thread Taylor
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE JD your dylexia has kicked in again. We who are born through procreation are created in the "image" of the first Adam. They were here first already and the tree of life is what they were encouraged toeat from. to say they w

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
created "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden. jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:27:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE S

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
of Life , in the garden. jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:27:22 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

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2005-12-09 Thread Blainerb473
Hmmm, bad water gets blamed for a lot. My neighbor's dog drank some ethylene glycol anti-freeze off my garage floor and died within 36 hours. Went into a coma. Tch tch. That will teach him to use my lawn for a pooping ground, huh? Blainerb In a message dated 12/8/2005 8:30:53 P.M.

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2005-12-09 Thread Blainerb473
I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one account. He was jealous of Able because the coveted sister liked Able better than Cain--until Able was"removed,"at least. In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:28:04

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2005-12-09 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden. jd They

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2005-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
They had another brother called Ready[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one account. He was jealous of Able because the coveted sister liked Able better than Cain--until Able

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2005-12-09 Thread Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:01:44 -0700 "Taylor&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you willing to BET your Life on this? They did not seem to be aware of their nakedness until they ate the apple. Then they made fig leaf aprons to cover their nakedness. Sounds like they were changed in some mysterious way by eating the apple. I can see it all now--Adam looks at Eve, and

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-09 Thread Lance Muir
This IS the sort of thing I was looking for. YES I'd like for you to post the 'newer' material. thanks, Lance - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 09, 2005 02:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine do you read the Bible? It was not a coveted sister Cain was jealous of - why not go back and refresh .[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor So they were created one of two ways. They were either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience - OR they were created like us which is

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Yeah! Innocence turned to lust and caring and love turned into pride, selfishness, and shame. On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:52:03 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
So, Adam and Eve were having children while ithe garden .A possiblility. jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:41:09 ESTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
TECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:52:03 ESTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
Amen.-Original Message-From: Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent

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2005-12-09 Thread Lance Muir
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 09, 2005 09:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Amen.-Original Message-From: Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:09:18 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700 "Taylor" wmtaylor@plains.net writes: From: Judy Taylor So they were created one of two ways. They were either ete

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
D]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
Think "Tree of Life" for starters.-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:23:29 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE What is the evidence? On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:2

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2005-12-09 Thread Lance Muir
: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Why? The apostle Paul is good enough for me - He used "great plainness of speech" with no hidden agendas. Nothing was done in a corner. On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:21:34 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill speaks of 'AW'

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2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:33:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I love it. Judy interprets John !!! If this is an example of your "spirit discernment," you have a long long way to go. Correction! Judy has no interest in interpreting John. Judy reads and understands

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Oh and, hey John, this brings me to a second thought. You said that perhaps God had created other peoples as well as AE. Were they eating also from the tree of life in the garden at the time of Adam's banishment? They had been created mortal as well, right? They would

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2005-12-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
perpetrated in the garden of Eden to deceive Eve is still alive today in some cults...and ye shall be as gods. Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:11:18 -0500

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2005-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
those who are turned off by such rhetoric.They are already "TURNED OFF" What will happen to them are you afraid we will "TURN THEM" into HELL NUMBER TWO?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:45:44 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:being over

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2005-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
or saying the "image" is the need for community than you can for "holy and eternal" jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:09:18 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New

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2005-12-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Must be it ALL revolves around SEX Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine do you read the Bible? It was not a coveted sister Cain was jealous of - why not go back and refresh .[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines

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2005-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:47:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Oh and, hey John, this brings me to a second thought. You said that perhaps God had created other peoples as well as AE. Were they eating also from the tree of life in the garden at the time

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
No -- "nave"l in their day referred only to an orange. jd-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:54:06 -0800Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Did they have navels like we have?From: [EMAIL

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2005-12-09 Thread knpraise
k it to me !! -Original Message-From: Taylor wmtaylor@plains.netTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:19:48 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE I think probably, John, that all humanity had to have come through Adam and Eve. This does not mean that Cain and the

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2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
When all of us stand before God at the great white throne judgment... we have to know where we failed. Noone will have grounds toaccuse Him of beingunloving or unjust because we will have condemned ourselves and we will know thiswithout anyone having to tell us... So the test is for us

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2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I won't speculate, Dave, but I should point out that monkeys and horses do not have a soul. == Dave Hansen wrote: He knew they would sin. He did not plan for them to fall. He planned a remedy for the fall. Big difference.

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2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I truly wish you could see this ,Dave, because it is important to our understanding. The tree was there for a reason. God could have programmed every creature to behave exactly as He wanted them to, but He did not. He even gave angels a choice. He wants us to come to Him out of love, just as

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2005-12-08 Thread Dave Hansen
monkeys and horses do not have a soul. DAVEH: ??? Aren't you speculating when you make that claim, Terry? What Biblical evidence supports that theory? Terry Clifton wrote: I won't speculate, Dave, but I should point out that monkeys and horses do not have a soul.

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2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
While it may be noble to want to keep one's children pure and innocent, a loving parent who overly protects their children will end up with kids acutely susceptible to the ills of the world. NONSENSE That is like saying a gardner who overprotects his PRIZE flowers from weeds and pests will

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2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE While it may be noble to want to keep one's children pure and innocent, a loving parent who overly protects their children will end up with kids acutely susceptible to the ills of the world. NONSENSE That is like saying a gardner

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2005-12-08 Thread knpraise
2005 08:38:21 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE While it may be noble to want to keep one's children pure and innocent, a loving parent who overly protects their children will end up with kids acutely susceptible to the ills of the world. NONSENSE That is like saying a g

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2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Blainerb: You seem to be forgetting how wonderful you as a daughter of God are, Judy. Without Adam and Eve's partaking of the forbidden fruit, none of us including your wonderful self wouldeven be here--Adam and Eve would just be lounging around in their perfect little paradise, never

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2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
I think you might have missed something, Blaine. There is no reason to think that Judy would not have been here if there had been no fall. The command to "Be fruitful and multiply" came prior to the fall. See Genesis 1:28. Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: You seem to be

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2005-12-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Genesis 2:7 ...man became a living soul. This is only said of men. No where in the Bible will you find a reference to the soul of a horse or a monkey. Animals were not made to have eternal lives any more than trees or vines. They were created for man to use, to eat, to have dominion over.

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2005-12-08 Thread Blainerb473
Are you saying Adam and Eve were capable of having sex prior to the Fall?? What sacrilege is this?? :) Blainerb In a message dated 12/8/2005 6:48:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you might have missed something, Blaine. There is no reason to think that

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2005-12-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE Actually, my youngest daughter (22 years old) has told me why she has decided to NOT hoime school her children .. and itis for much of the same reason as seen in the opening line below. She told me thateach

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