I see this as a model engagement. It airs out
differences while continuing to 'embrace' one another as persons in relation. My
thanks to Slade and Dave.
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From:
Dave Hansen
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 18, 2005 00:23
Subject:
"The Son of God is still incarnate, though now
incarnate as a risen and glorious man. Jesus, was gloriously raised from the
dead as a complete and entire man--body and soul." T. Weinandy, 'Jesus Christ',
Our Sunday Visitor, 2003
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From:
Dave Hansen
Helps
clarify between John the Dunker and John the Sprinkler.
--
slade
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent: Monday, 17 January, 2005 21.33To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
Sorry.
I misspoke. There are teaching outlines available.
--slade
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22.53Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Nicene Creed and Truthtalk
Members
Okaywhich thingy do
I click on for the concordance??? Izzy
Terry, I see YOU as a disciple of Jesus.
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From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 17, 2005 14:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Lance Muir wrote:
Sectarianism DOES INDEED EXIST ON TT!! Please, someone correct
The good priest appears to be 'missing a part'
Lance. No man is complete and entire without a spirit and we
know Jesus had one - remember Luke 23:46? He didn't say
"Father into your hands I commend my body/soul"
did he?jt
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 05:26:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know what you mean about 'maturity'John -
I do know this to be the context for the wordperfect in some other places
but in 1 Cor 13:10'complete' would be better. We can know it refers
to Christ rather than the Bible because
of the setting ie: "Love never fails, now we see
through a
Hearsay, hearsay, hearsay beware!!
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:51:58 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/17/2005 2:19:08 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yet the theory of it you
embrac/d, publically, is Wesley's view On
Mon, 17 Jan 2005
We don't want this fear cast out, this is the only kind
of fear that is acceptable with
God. It is the kind that brings blessing rather than
torment. Perfect love casts out the
kind of fear that is accompanied by torment. All kinds
of phobias, nightmares etc.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:50:36
Looks to me like you are trying to moderateKevin
Deegan into silence.Kevin has been around for a long time and I'm
sure Dave Hansen is used to him by now. It's obvious that Kevin has no
personal vendetta or dislike for Dave and my understanding is that it is
lovetospeak the truth to someone
John, some people are able to separate themselves. From
what I understand David to sayhe still gets around in a flesh body and he
has the same opportunity to sin every day as the rest
of us both physically and emotionally. Are you baiting him? Is this
some kind
of public humiliation?
On
I
think you took it the wrong way, Judy.
Kay,
who knows Slade very well
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy
TaylorSent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005 06.22To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
Jt says: 'from what I understand David to say' As
everyone has access to what David has 'said', IMO this is not the
difficulty that John has. Even you, Judy, have had to qualify by uttering 'from
what I understand' thus indicating that you just might be incorrect. I'd posit a
couple of
Thank you for those thoughts Lance. I use "from what I
understand" in this instance because I am dealing with ppl
in different stages of spiritual growth who may not see
things as I see them. However, I do believe in such a thing
as
objective truth. I do believe that there is a right and
a
Thought you all might find this interesting...I like to go to literal,
word for word translations. I have found it helps alot...
Quotedfrom The Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha:
Hisgalus (The Revelation) Perek Yod Beit (Chapter 12) v.
4
And
the tail of him drags down a
Jt asks:'don't you believe it is in the realm of
possibility for David Miller?' NO I DO NOT! However, it could well be that the
text, here and elsewhere, yourself, and David Miller are in possession of an
'objective truth' that eludes me.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
The
Besuras Hageulah According to Lukas (Luke)
23:46
And
having cried out with a kol gadol (loud voice), Rebbe Melech HaMoschiach said,
Abba, BYADCHA AFKID RUCHI (Into your hands I commit my ruach [spirit]). And this
having said, Rebbe, Melech HaMoschiach breathed out his
last.
Kay
Then Kay please help me to understand what this is
about because to me it makes no sense at all.
We all know who the Mormons are so what would be the
point in using the term "the average Mormon"
people can be just as mean in veiled ways if this is
their intent. jt
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005
Thanks Kay,
Got to go for a while - y'all behave while I'm gone
:) See ya later...
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:44:59 -0500 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The
Besuras Hageulah According to Lukas (Luke)
23:46
And
having cried out with a kol gadol (loud voice), Rebbe Melech
FWIW Lance, My belief is thatyou are in a
time warp, stuck in your cosmic incarnation while
DavidM, myself and others have moved on to the resurrection. It is the
power that emanates from the resurrection that enables a believer to be free
from sin past, the power of sin present, and the
A couple of questions for the purpose of
clarification, please:
1. What does the _expression_ 'cosmic incarnation'
mean? If you don't know then, why use it?
2. As we 'speak', do you consider yourself to be
completely free of sin in thought, word and deed?
3a. I think you make a good point
Click here: http://www.e-sword.net/files/setup752.exe
From:
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005
10:53 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The
Nicene Creed and Truthtalk Members
Judy wrote:
Please don't say when that which is perfect has come
because that which is perfect is Christ Himself and He
has yet to come. *
John wrote:
This is clearly speaking of maturity -- that is if immediate
context means anything at all.
Not only context supports what you are
Lance wrote:
IFF David is 'one of us' then, he consciously,
actively, sins daily in thought, word and deed.
Then I guess I am not one of you.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer every
Thanks for a right attitude of not being
easily offended, DaveHwe certainly cant fault you there, as it is
exemplary. (FYI, this does NOT make me your disciple. J ) Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry, I see YOU as a disciple of Jesus.
===
Thank you Lance. That is very important to me. I wish that everyone
could see that, but I am afraid that it shows so seldom that most miss
it when it happens.
Terry
--
Let your
It seems to me that the only parts
that get saved are the parts that get wet. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
4:30 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
Personally, I think it wouldnt be
real TT if we didnt have occasional outbreaks of Kevin/Perry/Hansen
feathers flying. Kinda makes it feel like home. J Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
5:22 AM
To:
That is the point in contentionis it
not? Izzy
5. IMO, IFF David is 'one of us' then, he consciously,
actively, sins daily in thought, word and deed. I am, by inference, saying the
same thing of every believer/non-believer in the cosmos.
I see the smilen face and assume you are joking.
Tell me you are joking . . .
Bill
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:31
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Good News!
It seems to me that
Thought you all might find this
interesting...I like to go to literal, word for word translations. I have found
it helps alot...
Quotedfrom The Orthodox Jewish Brit
Chadasha:
Hisgalus (The Revelation) Perek Yod Beit
(Chapter 12) v. 4
And the tail of him
Slade Henson wrote:
The Besuras Hageulah According to Lukas
(Luke)
23:46
And having cried out with a kol gadol (loud
voice), Rebbe Melech HaMoschiach said, Abba, BYADCHA AFKID RUCHI (Into
your hands I commit my ruach [spirit]). And this having said, Rebbe,
Melech HaMoschiach
I
enjoy God's Word - and learning the fear of the Lord is profitable all around:
The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life Prov 14:27
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom Prov 9:10
The fear of the Lord will prolong your days Prov 10:27
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil Prov
Close but no cigar! However, if there were a 'cigar' you would be 'one of
us' would you?
IFF you understand David's meaning (I don't) please let us mortals if your
life experience (sinlessness, I think) is identical to his.
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To:
J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Miller
Lance wrote:
IFF David is 'one of us' then, he consciously,
actively, sins daily in thought, word and deed.
Then I guess I am not one of you.
Peace be with you.
David
I respectfully disagree,
Terry. Iz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 7:21 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good News!
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry, I see YOU
Im a believer in going all the way
on a good thingy. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
8:40 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Good
News!
I see the smilen face and
Lance Muir wrote:
Close but no cigar! However, if there were a 'cigar' you would be 'one of
us' would you?
IFF you understand David's meaning (I don't) please let us mortals if your
life experience (sinlessness, I think) is identical to his.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL
==
We could all chip in and hire someone to follow David around until they
catch him sinning, but if he doesn't sin then we might all go broke.
Probably better (and cheaper) to take him at his word . Taking him at
his word costs nothing.
So, you also read David as claiming sinlessness in word, deed and thought?
That being the case, you make a good point, Terry.
- Original Message -
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 18, 2005 08:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional
DAVEH: Soas I'm understanding this, Protestantism teaches that
Jesus' (who is God) spirit is now clothed in a body of flesh and
bonesis that correct? I will be interested to hear if Kevin
agrees, as he seems to be very critical that I believe God consists of
a physical being. ButI
John wrote:
Our definitions for sin are different.
I believe that to be the problem.
Feel free to define sin for us. For the most part, as a verb, I understand
sin to be lawlessness, acting in a way that is contrary to God's law. It is
any behavior that does not emanate from love. However,
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:20:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but G-d has us standing one two different shores of doctrine at this time.
DAVEH: I don't see that as a big problem for this type of forum at all
A most interesting exchange of ideas. DaveH 's comment above
In a message dated 1/18/2005 3:09:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't know what you mean about 'maturity' John - I do know this to be the context for the word perfect in some other places but in 1 Cor 13:10 'complete' would be better. We can know it refers to Christ
Terry wrote:
On the cross, Jesus indeed gave up His spirit,
and His body was left to be wrapped in aloes
and buried. But later, when He ascended,
He went in one peice.
You are pointing something out here that fits real well with Greek Dualism,
but the Sadducean Hebraic Mindset objects.
If you think I want David to make clear what is clear to me -- well, then, call it any of your favorite little names. Either he believes that he is a sinner [with current sin problems as opposed to temptation problems] or he doesn't. Since you are the one who challenged this (my assertion that
Dave Hansen wrote:
Soas I'm understanding this, Protestantism
teaches that Jesus' (who is God) spirit is now
clothed in a body of flesh and bonesis that
correct? ... Do you believe God has a physical
body as well?
Dave, most Protestant scholars would accept the view that Jesus
In a message dated 1/18/2005 5:02:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
others have moved on to the resurrection. It is the power that emanates from the resurrection that enables a believer to be free from sin past, the power of sin present, and the future consequence for sin.
John wrote:
I don't like it when I am talking about one
thing sin and you speak of soemthing
entirely different temptation. I do not
like that at all.
Sorry, John. Some misunderstanding here. In this particular context, I
interpret battle with sin as being the struggle one experiences
I AM NOT A MODERATE.
I AM EXTREMELY OFFENDED,
THAT ANYONE WOULD EVEN MENTION SUCH AN IDEA!
ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I think it wouldnt be real TT if we didnt have occasional outbreaks of Kevin/Perry/Hansen feathers flying. Kinda makes it feel like home. J Izzy
In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:47:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, are you saying that you think a mature Believer does not fear God in the Biblical sense? I believe that we all either walk in the fear of God OR in the fear of Man. The former leads to righteousness;
In a message dated 1/18/2005 7:11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Soas I'm understanding this, Protestantism teaches that Jesus' (who is God) spirit is now clothed in a body of flesh and bonesis that correct? I will be interested to hear if Kevin agrees, as
In a message dated 1/18/2005 7:32:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
Our definitions for sin are different.
I believe that to be the problem.
Feel free to define sin for us. For the most part, as a verb, I understand
sin to be lawlessness, acting in a way that
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:04:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, John. Some misunderstanding here. In this particular context, I
interpret "battle with sin" as being the struggle one experiences when they
are tempted to sin. A battle can be either won or lost.
Do
"I think you took it the wrong way"
Kay what way should we take it?
AS for me I think the utimate MEAN spirit is the spirit of the age that does not open it's mouth lest we offend someone.
I bet whenDave is cast into a bottomless pit, you may consider you did not do enough for him or the
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I AM NOT A MODERATE.
I AM EXTREMELY OFFENDED,
THAT ANYONE WOULD EVEN MENTION SUCH AN IDEA!
o.k.
In a message dated 1/18/2005 5:20:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3b. If you (you also David) are testifying to this in your life then, please say so without ambiguity.
Yes. That is all I am getting at. I thought it was clear until David sent that post talking about
Oh by the way speak "ALL MY WORDS" means
NEGATIVEas well asPOSITIVESeems the correct formula would be TWO THIRDS NEGATIVE 1/3 POSITIVE
ANYONE who is all one or the other is a BIBLE PERVERT
Here is the PREACHERS commision
2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove,
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
On the cross, Jesus indeed gave up His spirit,
and His body was left to be wrapped in aloes
and buried. But later, when He ascended,
He went in one peice.
You are pointing something out here that fits real well with Greek Dualism,
but
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:42:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh by the way speak "ALL MY WORDS" means
NEGATIVE as well as POSITIVE
Seems the correct formula would be TWO THIRDS NEGATIVE 1/3 POSITIVE
ANYONE who is all one or the other is a BIBLE PERVERT
Here is the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:47:22 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John,
are you saying that you think a mature Believer does not fear God in
the Biblical sense? I believe that we all either walk in the fear of
God OR in the fear
The consequences of not telling them is pretty AWESOME too!
Yes HELL is the Ultimate negative. Total lack of any good.Total lack of anything God.
Sick of the deafing silence...[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:42:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh by
Hahaha...I found that funny.
Actually, I've heard of the "Sinless Doctrine"from C. Barr and Daniel
Lee.
Run,
JohnRUN!
K
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005
11.09To:
"Preach the word" doesn't mean yell, scream, demean, or belittle the
personreprove, rebuke, and exhort do not mean belittle or demean, either.
It's all in the way it's served on the plate, whether it's accepted as something
sweet to the taste, or something that is rejected and vomited.
"Pastor Smithson" wrote:
In
the midst of all struggle,some receive "truth" and are able to have it
make sense in their lives.
Those are the ones who are, in principle,willing to change
their mind. The alternative is to be hard-packed, impenetrable
path-soil.
Debbie
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:54:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do no fear God. I AM saved. See the connections?
JD
===
Do you ever fear that you will disappoint him? Do you ever fear that you could do
something to incur His
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:00:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The consequences of not telling them is pretty AWESOME too!
Yes HELL is the Ultimate negative. Total lack of any good. Total lack of anything God.
Sick of the deafing silence...
Which is pretty much
"yelling and shouting so loudly that you close all the doors"
Thanks for your advice JD.
AS FAR AS SHUT DOORS:
Untold Millions are still Untold!
I think of two doors one SHUT UP and one waiting to be opened
SHUT: "ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open
Never any thing negative preached in the old testament or new according to you?Slade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Preach the word" doesn't mean yell, scream, demean, or belittle the personreprove, rebuke, and exhort do not mean belittle or demean, either. It's all in the way it's served
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:17:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Pastor Smithson" wrote:
In the midst of all struggle, some receive "truth" and are able to have it make sense in their lives.
Those are the ones who are, in principle, willing to change their mind. The
Another clairvoyent!
What knoweth thou?
C'mon JD you do not have a clue what goes on in this arena. Why give advice where you never have trod?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:00:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The consequences of not telling them is
Sure
there is...but the delivery is Divine.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kevin
DeeganSent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005 12.23To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a
Christian?
Never any
"Preach the word" doesn't mean yell, scream, demean, or belittle the personreprove, rebuke, and exhort do not mean belittle or demean, either. It's all in the way it's served on the plate, whether it's accepted as something sweet to the taste, or something that is rejected and vomited.
Not so
Whatever, Kevin...but you catch more flies with honey. Didn't you read
the testimony I shared about Cheryl? It was a street preacher sort who damaged
her so deeply that she blamed God and would have nothing to do with Him. She
thought he was nuts, first of all, and second of all didn't want
David:Following your reply to my question as
follows:"LOL Lance, my source is Scripture!" Are these (ones) the source of your
belief? If not then, from whom did you first hear this?
- Original Message -
From:
Slade
Henson
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
Sorry, Im not following you here,
Kevin. Are you joking? Did I call you a moderate? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
10:13 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is
John,
are you saying that you think a mature Believer does not fear God in the
Biblical sense? I believe that we all either walk in the fear of God OR in the
fear of Man.
The former leads to righteousness; the latter leads to sin. How do you
see it? Izzy
I do no fear God. I AM saved.
2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word;
be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke,
exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
There are only 2 times to preach IN season Out of season
Very true Kevin. However I dont
read the word Bludgeon in there. We cannot bludgeon anyone
Pastor
Smithson wrote:
In the midst of all struggle, some receive truth
and are able to have it make sense in their lives.
Those are the ones who are, in principle, willing to change
their mind. The alternative is to be hard-packed, impenetrable path-soil.
Debbie
impenetrable
Yup,
and yup.
Debbie
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:15
PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
"Pastor
Smithson" wrote:
In
the midst of all struggle,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/18/2005 8:54:24 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
do no fear God. I AM saved. See the connections?
JD
===
Do you ever fear that you will disappoint him? Do you
Yes I read it. She will never get saved after meeting that idiot.
That WAS NOT a STREET PREACHER Sort!
It was probably a Dan Lee sortSlade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever, Kevin...but you catch more flies with honey. Didn't you read the testimony I shared about Cheryl? It was a street
Okay...what's the difference? Someone else told me the
same thing. Are you blessed with knowing Daniel Lee? What is the difference
between Street Preacher Daniel Lee sortand a Street Preacher
sort?
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On
Sorry I was not clear.
Communication with words is not my strong suit!
It was not your comment, it was the commentS below.yours.
"Looks to me like you are trying to moderateKevin Deegan into silence"
I think Judy said it nicely.
I would have said it different, does that really make it wrong?
And
KAY SAID: "Preach the word" doesn't mean yell, scream, demean, or belittle the personreprove, rebuke, and exhort do not mean belittle or demean, either. It's all in the way it's served on the plate, whether it's accepted as something sweet to the taste, or something that is rejected and
I only know of him ONLINE..
Hedoes NOT have a Street Preacher's heart.
Let me splain it to ya this way, OK?
We took a Christian man to a very large "protest march"
There were all kinds of Angry people marching for all kinds of Demands
This Christian was so scared he sat the whole time by the
Dave Hansen wrote: Soas I'm understanding this, Protestantism teaches that Jesus' (who is God) spirit is now clothed in a body of flesh and bonesis thatcorrect? ... Do you believe God has a physicalbody as well?
JESUS: Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle
John wrote:
If you regard sins of character as legitimate aspects
of the biblical view if sin, as I do, are you a sinner
and sinning at this time. Is there no degree of selfish
within you? No degree of the lazy's, no pride
whatsoever, no conceit, an anger, no arrogance.
Whatever?
We
Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Question, why is it that Mr Mouw believes he knows more about Mormonsm than many men who have spent a large part of their livesstudying and witnessing to Mormons?
DAVEH: Hmmm...maybe he listens before he talks?
KD Maybe he talks
Thanks Dave
You do understand that I do not hate you?
Maybe you think you understand me.
I am not even simmering.
I do hate the FALSE way of Mormonism
It is the RIGHT way to hate falsehood.
PS 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
You also
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:15:06 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A couple of questions for the purpose of
clarification, please:
1. What does the _expression_ 'cosmic incarnation'
mean? If you don't know then, why use it?
jt: Why ask the question if you
already
He did Terry, he ate fish with the disciples after the
cross but before he was resurrected. I don't doubt that
the resurrected body is a reality and the soul is what
needs saving. However the spirit is an important part
of man because God is a spirit and we communicate with
him in that
Well thanks for speaking to him about his condition..
So many today think the armour of the Lord is a seat cushion!
"Brethren, do something; do something, do something! While societies and unions make constitutions, let us win souls. I pray you, be men of action all of you. Get to work and quit
David Miller wrote:
John wrote:
If you regard sins of character as legitimate aspects
of the biblical view if "sin," as I do, are you a sinner
and sinning at this time. Is there no degree of selfish
within you? No degree of the lazy's, no pride
whatsoever, no conceit, an
DAVEH: Well Kevin, you do have an interesting perspective on the use of logic. Just so there aren't any misconceptions about the opinions I post on TT. You are right, KevinI am not an official spokesman for the LDS Church. When you or other TTers ask me a question, I endeavor to answer
Does that mean that you David Miller are sinless?
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Traditional Christian theology -- does sham mean
anything
Lance wrote:
IFF David is
"Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God! I say that is a strange god any how -- three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organizations...All are to be crammed into one god, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the
In my younger days we called it "Tripping"!
Those delusians are not real, they are filiments of your
imagination.
Thank G-d Dr. J is on the case!
Jeff
Life makes warriors of us all.To emerge the victors,
we must armourselves with the most potent of weapons.That weapon is
prayer.--Rebbe
Huh? What are you trying to say, David?
-- slade
-Original Message-
From: David Miller
Sent: Tuesday, 18 January, 2005 10.49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Greek Dualism
Terry wrote:
On the cross, Jesus indeed gave up His spirit,
and His body was left to be wrapped in aloes
and buried.
DAVEH: "from my limited experience, it seems to be the SOP for some street preachers. That's why I am so curious about why some of them go to the lengths they do in decrying the LDS Church during Conference time in SLC twice a year. IF they really understood the Mormon mentality, I can't believe
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