Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
I don't want to discuss this topic anymore, by you or anyone else. This is defenitely out of topic. However you wish. You are the owner/boss here! Thanks, SZ -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> I am sorry for disturbing you but I am not sure I understood your point. > Isn't ICS in competition with other components like The support mailing list is defenitely not the place to discuss about competitors or compare features or design decisions and goals. Use borland winsock forum or other public forum for that purpose. I don't want to discuss this topic anymore, by you or anyone else. This is defenitely out of topic. > How can we suggest new features if we cannot give examples? Just stay on a technical level. It doesn't help saying that other product implement a feature you find interresting. Just say you need a given feature and describe it without reference to other products. And always use an appropriate subject message. I don't want to discuss this topic anymore, by you or anyone else. This is defenitely out of topic. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
I am sorry for disturbing you but I am not sure I understood your point. Isn't ICS in competition with other components like Indy and Wininet? How can we suggest new features if we cannot give examples? I believe we should not fear from competition; instead we should keep an eye on them and improve ours and catch them with our favorite Internet component suite that is ICS. Thanks, SZ - Original Message - From: "Corey Murtagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Fastream Technologies wrote: But this is a decision that affects ICS developers since MS is the owner of the OS and Winsock therefore can shed some light with its design. I did not have any malign intentions. Be that as it may, discussions of the /design decisions/ that lead to the current state are neither useful nor topical here as they do not relate to the ICS components in the slightest. The current state itself is topical... in as much as it relates to the functioning of the components and no further. All that aside, Francois is the owner of this mailing list. If he asks you to desist from certain behavior - like promoting your own products, discussing other network component suites, or trying to discuss irrelevant things like Microsoft's reasons for doing something - then it is churlish to continue to do so, or to attempt to justify yourself. -- Corey Murtagh The Electric Monk "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur." -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Fastream Technologies wrote: But this is a decision that affects ICS developers since MS is the owner of the OS and Winsock therefore can shed some light with its design. I did not have any malign intentions. Be that as it may, discussions of the /design decisions/ that lead to the current state are neither useful nor topical here as they do not relate to the ICS components in the slightest. The current state itself is topical... in as much as it relates to the functioning of the components and no further. All that aside, Francois is the owner of this mailing list. If he asks you to desist from certain behavior - like promoting your own products, discussing other network component suites, or trying to discuss irrelevant things like Microsoft's reasons for doing something - then it is churlish to continue to do so, or to attempt to justify yourself. -- Corey Murtagh The Electric Monk "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur." -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
But this is a decision that affects ICS developers since MS is the owner of the OS and Winsock therefore can shed some light with its design. I did not have any malign intentions. Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Francois Piette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? > why did MS chose threads? This is not the place to discuss Microsoft design decision. Please use a general purpose mailing list or newsgroup for that topic. Please focus on ICS ! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? You seem to be right and I can understand why Apache has chosen threaded way (for UNIX compatibility) but why did MS chose threads? What about I/O optimization. For example async freezes when a buffer of I/O is being read whereas threads to better disk/socket I/O? SZ - Original Message - From: "Primoz Gabrijelcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'ICS support mailing'" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? >> Well, async cannot take advantage of multi-processor systems. >> Also for CGI and ISAPI execution, threads seem to be a better >> way. And all the commercial Web servers I know such as IIS >> and Apache chose it for these reasons. > > You are mixing up two factors. > > Even on multi-processor system, one CPU is usually enough to handle > connections. That doesn't prevent you from creating additional threads > to > process CGI and ISAPI requests - nobody says that such requests must > execute > in the context of the thread handling socket connections. > > One of my commercial designs is using this approach and it is working > just > great. > > Best regards, > Primoz > > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> why did MS chose threads? This is not the place to discuss Microsoft design decision. Please use a general purpose mailing list or newsgroup for that topic. Please focus on ICS ! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? > You seem to be right and I can understand why Apache has chosen threaded way > (for UNIX compatibility) but why did MS chose threads? What about I/O > optimization. For example async freezes when a buffer of I/O is being read > whereas threads to better disk/socket I/O? > > SZ > > - Original Message - > From: "Primoz Gabrijelcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'ICS support mailing'" > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:59 AM > Subject: RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? > > > >> Well, async cannot take advantage of multi-processor systems. > >> Also for CGI and ISAPI execution, threads seem to be a better > >> way. And all the commercial Web servers I know such as IIS > >> and Apache chose it for these reasons. > > > > You are mixing up two factors. > > > > Even on multi-processor system, one CPU is usually enough to handle > > connections. That doesn't prevent you from creating additional threads to > > process CGI and ISAPI requests - nobody says that such requests must > > execute > > in the context of the thread handling socket connections. > > > > One of my commercial designs is using this approach and it is working just > > great. > > > > Best regards, > > Primoz > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
You seem to be right and I can understand why Apache has chosen threaded way (for UNIX compatibility) but why did MS chose threads? What about I/O optimization. For example async freezes when a buffer of I/O is being read whereas threads to better disk/socket I/O? SZ - Original Message - From: "Primoz Gabrijelcic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'ICS support mailing'" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Well, async cannot take advantage of multi-processor systems. Also for CGI and ISAPI execution, threads seem to be a better way. And all the commercial Web servers I know such as IIS and Apache chose it for these reasons. You are mixing up two factors. Even on multi-processor system, one CPU is usually enough to handle connections. That doesn't prevent you from creating additional threads to process CGI and ISAPI requests - nobody says that such requests must execute in the context of the thread handling socket connections. One of my commercial designs is using this approach and it is working just great. Best regards, Primoz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> Well, async cannot take advantage of multi-processor systems. > Also for CGI and ISAPI execution, threads seem to be a better > way. And all the commercial Web servers I know such as IIS > and Apache chose it for these reasons. You are mixing up two factors. Even on multi-processor system, one CPU is usually enough to handle connections. That doesn't prevent you from creating additional threads to process CGI and ISAPI requests - nobody says that such requests must execute in the context of the thread handling socket connections. One of my commercial designs is using this approach and it is working just great. Best regards, Primoz -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Hello, Well, async cannot take advantage of multi-processor systems. Also for CGI and ISAPI execution, threads seem to be a better way. And all the commercial Web servers I know such as IIS and Apache chose it for these reasons. Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Bjørnar Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'ICS support mailing'" Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? The only shortcoming of ICS is the web server which has no official and/or optimized CGI/ISAPI component and by design async which is bad for a web server. SZ, why do you think async design is bad for a webserver? Regards Bjørnar -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
RE: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> The only shortcoming of ICS is the web server which has no official and/or optimized CGI/ISAPI > component and by design async which is bad for a web server. SZ, why do you think async design is bad for a webserver? Regards Bjørnar -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> Yea, I looked into this, and the related API calls on the MSDN site. > However, I also heard that sparse files lead to bad file > fragmentation, not sure if thats true or not though. By definition, a sparse file will be very fragmented, that's how it's designed. But I doubt TStream will be unable to write to several positions in the same file, so each part of the FTP transfer would need to come back into a temporary file. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
With NT and better (who really cares about Win9x any more), you can use sparse files, where the OS creates a file (potentially larger than the disk) but only allocates sectors as you write them. Once the file is complete, it would be copied to a normal file. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be Yea, I looked into this, and the related API calls on the MSDN site. However, I also heard that sparse files lead to bad file fragmentation, not sure if thats true or not though. Dan -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> > I would do it by writing to temporary files. The reason is because > > when you start writing to an offset in a new file, the write call > > will block for a long time while Windows zeroes/randomizes the > > earlier bytes so that you cant read someone elses file that was > > previously in the same place on the disk. > > With NT and better (who really cares about Win9x any more), you can > use sparse files, where the OS creates a file (potentially larger > than the disk) but only allocates sectors as you write them. Once > the file is complete, it would be copied to a normal file. > that's the trick Angus... Still a lot of people cares about Win9x... i can see many computers coming at my company to be repaired still working with Win95/98/Me... Guillaume MAISON - Guillaume MAISON - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 83, Cours Victor Hugo 47000 AGEN Tél : 05 53 87 91 48 - Fax : 05 53 68 73 50 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web : http://nauteus.com -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> I would do it by writing to temporary files. The reason is because > when you start writing to an offset in a new file, the write call > will block for a long time while Windows zeroes/randomizes the > earlier bytes so that you cant read someone elses file that was > previously in the same place on the disk. With NT and better (who really cares about Win9x any more), you can use sparse files, where the OS creates a file (potentially larger than the disk) but only allocates sectors as you write them. Once the file is complete, it would be copied to a normal file. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Also he needs to set ftpNoAutoResume flag from options. When multiple files are used, I had to modify the ICS source code for one line since normally TFtpClient wants to seek the local file to the same offset as the remote ResumeAt and resumeAt is from the beginning of the entire file whereas the local seek should be from the beginning of the segment. I worked on this yesterday and I know what I am talking about. ;) Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? I would do it by writing to temporary files. The reason is because when you start writing to an offset in a new file, the write call will block for a long time while Windows zeroes/randomizes the earlier bytes so that you cant read someone elses file that was previously in the same place on the disk. I did a BitTorrent client where it writes pieces randomly into the file and the whole application would lock up when it first starts writing to the end of the file because of this blocking. As for how to retrieve pieces of the file, just do a REST to set your starting offset, and in your progress event or whatever you use, check if you have received enough data from that connection and close the data socket it if you have (you might receive slightly more than you wanted for that connection but who cares). Dan - Original Message - From: "Moacir Flávio Gonçalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Well, I'm doing a guess here, thinking that must be a clever way to do it, BUT, I think, if you create 1 file with 33% of junk (just set one byte at the position), another with 66%, then CONTINUE downloading the 3 of then until the start of the next (controling with progress)... Finally, join in one file. Like I said, only guessing... Rm 12:2 - "E não vos conformeis com este século, mas transformai-vos pela renovação da vossa mente, para que experimenteis qual seja a boa, agradável e perfeita vontade de Deus." - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Yes, I mean temporary files, joining them when finished the parts Rm 12:2 - "E não vos conformeis com este século, mas transformai-vos pela renovação da vossa mente, para que experimenteis qual seja a boa, agradável e perfeita vontade de Deus." - Original Message - From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? I would do it by writing to temporary files. The reason is because when you start writing to an offset in a new file, the write call will block for a long time while Windows zeroes/randomizes the earlier bytes so that you cant read someone elses file that was previously in the same place on the disk. I did a BitTorrent client where it writes pieces randomly into the file and the whole application would lock up when it first starts writing to the end of the file because of this blocking. As for how to retrieve pieces of the file, just do a REST to set your starting offset, and in your progress event or whatever you use, check if you have received enough data from that connection and close the data socket it if you have (you might receive slightly more than you wanted for that connection but who cares). Dan - Original Message - From: "Moacir Flávio Gonçalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Well, I'm doing a guess here, thinking that must be a clever way to do it, BUT, I think, if you create 1 file with 33% of junk (just set one byte at the position), another with 66%, then CONTINUE downloading the 3 of then until the start of the next (controling with progress)... Finally, join in one file. Like I said, only guessing... Rm 12:2 - "E não vos conformeis com este século, mas transformai-vos pela renovação da vossa mente, para que experimenteis qual seja a boa, agradável e perfeita vontade de Deus." - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a > separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is > done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% > part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. You can do that more or less like i've described simultaneous download. Each FTP component will download the same file, using the ResumeAt function to start each component at a different point of the file. When one component reach the starting point of another one, you abort the transfert of that component (the file will be kept). When all have finished, you reassemble the parts with standard file I/O. Not trivial but not too much difficult to achieve. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
I would do it by writing to temporary files. The reason is because when you start writing to an offset in a new file, the write call will block for a long time while Windows zeroes/randomizes the earlier bytes so that you cant read someone elses file that was previously in the same place on the disk. I did a BitTorrent client where it writes pieces randomly into the file and the whole application would lock up when it first starts writing to the end of the file because of this blocking. As for how to retrieve pieces of the file, just do a REST to set your starting offset, and in your progress event or whatever you use, check if you have received enough data from that connection and close the data socket it if you have (you might receive slightly more than you wanted for that connection but who cares). Dan - Original Message - From: "Moacir Flávio Gonçalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Well, I'm doing a guess here, thinking that must be a clever way to do it, BUT, I think, if you create 1 file with 33% of junk (just set one byte at the position), another with 66%, then CONTINUE downloading the 3 of then until the start of the next (controling with progress)... Finally, join in one file. Like I said, only guessing... Rm 12:2 - "E não vos conformeis com este século, mas transformai-vos pela renovação da vossa mente, para que experimenteis qual seja a boa, agradável e perfeita vontade de Deus." - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Well, I'm doing a guess here, thinking that must be a clever way to do it, BUT, I think, if you create 1 file with 33% of junk (just set one byte at the position), another with 66%, then CONTINUE downloading the 3 of then until the start of the next (controling with progress)... Finally, join in one file. Like I said, only guessing... Rm 12:2 - "E não vos conformeis com este século, mas transformai-vos pela renovação da vossa mente, para que experimenteis qual seja a boa, agradável e perfeita vontade de Deus." - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
You can see an ICS example of multiple socket download FTP client here (beta, freeware, no ads): http://www.fastream.net/beta/NetFile.exe Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Francois PIETTE wrote: Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. Multiple connections are made to the server. Each connection downloads a separate part of the file and they are reassembled when downloading is done. Eg part 1 would be the first 33% of the file, part 2 the 33-66% part, and part 4 the 66-100% part. Cheers, Nicholas Sherlock -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
> Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. > They have an option to download a file in threads. Can you describe this feature because I don't know those programs. > Is it possible with FTPCLI to setup > ranges to download a file in threads? When Yes, how? If you mean downloading files in the background, there is nothing very special to do with ICS: it automaticall work in the background as soon as you use async functions (GetAsync instead of Get). No need to use multithreading ! See FtpAsy demo program. To download several files in parrallel, use one FTP client component per file to download. You can create the components dynamically each time the user ask to download another file and destroy the component once the download is complete. Or use a queue of component. -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
I used to do that with our FTP client. This approach requires many extra coding with critical sections and so on.. The best way that Francois convinced me is to do async coding on the client side and even on FTP/POP3/SMTP servers. The only shortcoming of ICS is the web server which has no official and/or optimized CGI/ISAPI component and by design async which is bad for a web server. That's why currently I am working on translating our web server to DXSock. DXSock also has SSL which we have been patiently waiting for from Francois for more than 2 years and 3 months. Best Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Mice Cage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads? Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Is it possible with FTPCLI to setup ranges to download a file in threads? When Yes, how? -- Handyrechnung zu hoch? Tipp: SMS und MMS mit GMX Seien Sie so frei: Alle Infos unter http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freesms -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Yes, Create the threads yourself and have one FTPCLI in each of them. /Fredrik Saturday, April 9, 2005, 12:13:12 AM, you wrote: > Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an > option to download a file in threads. Is it possible with FTPCLI to setup > ranges to download a file in threads? When Yes, how? -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
[twsocket] Is there a way to download a file in threads?
Some of You guys know Leechget and downloadmanager like that. They have an option to download a file in threads. Is it possible with FTPCLI to setup ranges to download a file in threads? When Yes, how? -- Handyrechnung zu hoch? Tipp: SMS und MMS mit GMX Seien Sie so frei: Alle Infos unter http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freesms -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
