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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan McGrath
snip
That is, unless you have the holy grail of users that are able to
perfectly articulate the solution that works for them each and every
time.
/snip
Ahh - never met those people
From: Dan McGrath
Don't just find out 'what' the users want to achieve,
understand 'why' as well.
Quite right, Dan. My poorly edited text intended to convey that
developers shouldn't continue to question why they should do
something with alternative user interfaces. It should be evident
From: Symeon Breen
Well what a conversation
I think u2 has as much to do with mobile apps as sql
server does. Completely divorced. As programmers we
should take an interest in all sorts of technology , I
don't call myself a picky i am a programmer, what
language shall i use today ?
] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
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From: Symeon Breen
Well what a conversation
I think u2 has as much to do with mobile apps as sql server does.
Completely divorced
key.
Rgds
Symeon.
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: 23 May 2011 00:50
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I agree. We
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
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I agree. We will be migrating to html 5 soon
On 23/05/11 18:35, Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
As an aside, I told Java students that they could apply to work on an
android app rather than a standard JRE app for a Programming II course last
semester. Two (out of 13) of them did and I was very impressed. One deployed
to a phone, the other to an
Oh yeah, this is fun stuff (given that I am not either party, that is). As I
recall from reading a while back, someone left some test code in the google
product that was taken directly from Sun/Oracle code, which greatly
complicated their defense when it was found that this code was deployed.
On 24/05/11 00:59, Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
Oh yeah, this is fun stuff (given that I am not either party, that is). As I
recall from reading a while back, someone left some test code in the google
product that was taken directly from Sun/Oracle code, which greatly
complicated their defense when it
Symeon said For mobile dev i think the way forward for many is html5 and
css3. I wholeheartedly agree.
While the bragging rights may be different for creating a webapp vs. a
true mobile app in Java, C, etc., the features, portability, and
maintainability available today with frameworks like
I agree. We will be migrating to html 5 soon but even where we are today,
the pages work on the iPhone family (including iPod touch, iPad) as well as
on android. So, while I can imagine preparing a Java wrapper for android and
perhaps even an objective-c wrapper for apple to wrap the web site (not
However, with mobile apps, you would need to have a different program, or at
least end-drivers for
each type of phone - and then you need to know which phone it's going to.
...
That's what I'm looking for.what are those really good apps that have been
developed out there
that would
We have started using an App called Citrix Receiver:
http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=1689163
Have just started evaluating it. It seems to work well.
Brett
David Jordan da...@dacono.com.au wrote in message
Well what a conversation
I think u2 has as much to do with mobile apps as sql server does. Completely
divorced. As programmers we should take an interest in all sorts of
technology , I don't call myself a picky i am a programmer, what language
shall i use today ?
For mobile dev i think the way
May 2011 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
Good points there David, which I notice a lot of people don't consider
when dismissing the benefits of an app vs web.
Another point is the better offline capabilities of a native app. I'm a
lot
the importance of this.
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan
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Hi George
the importance of this.
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Hi
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
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Since it's a little slow here I'll open a discussion
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
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[snipped
the Pointy
hair boss!
George
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boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
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And now for a dose of reality... Consider the problem with Sony
servers
in the gaming environment. How in the world is a smaller MV company
supposed to keep up with all of this technology blowing in the wind
] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
Two practical examples come to mind...
Reports:
If you are talking about something at least as large as an Ipad, then
reports that top management would want to look at comes to mind.
There are any number of tools out there, that are compatible with IOS
George Gallen-2 wrote:
Maybe we should have a mini thead on Cool things I've got my UV system to
do with a
mobile device! - or at the least, cool things, I've got my system to do
with a mobile
device - just not in UV
I don't see this as a UV deficit, but rather a knowledge deficit
I wrote a series of mobile applications back in '06 for use by our sales
reps in the field. I opted to make them browser based so it was
essentially the same WebSphere to U2 development I was already doing for
our public facing web site. The only difference was that I stripped out
javascript and
Since it's a little slow here I'll open a discussion which is
borderline between Tech and Community.
The thread Uniobjects.Net Compact Framework and Visual Basic
had an interesting resolution. I'd like to see more discussions
on that topic.
If only there were enough people interested in mobile
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
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Subject: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
Since it's a little slow here I'll open a discussion which
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Tony, there is (at least) a fourth option that I see
4) Not directly connecting to U2 from the mobile phone, but some
intermediate web server in between.
Using a REST or Webservices API from the mobile device would probably be
far
1) I work for a business and write business applications.I have no
interest in writing Rag Doll Blaster or Angry Birds for U2. Well, other
than the resulting large stacks of cash which would enable me to buy a
Ducati 1198s without getting killed by my wife.
2) Apparently. In my case I'm doing
Microsoft has split their development products into 2 areas presentation and
business rules. The presentation people take results given to them by the
business application and present it on the phone and web. The business rules
developers have little to do with presentation. Many
I certainly agree with the concept of pro-actively pushing information to
people via email. Information can be readily accessed from virtually any device
(even the desktop!), and if these notifications are triggered by critical
business events, as well as standard daily reports, then it just
From: Jeff Schasny
1) I work for a business and write business
applications.I have no interest in writing Rag Doll
Blaster or Angry Birds for U2.
Your perspective in your response to #1 is different from #2 so
I'm a little confused. In short, if you look around there are a
lot of business
For George, I think a question about what would be some
potential uses characterizes our community, and is part of what
prompted me to open the discussion. With hundreds of thousands
of apps out there for every mobile device, there are any number
of potential uses for mobile access, regardless of
Excellent points, David.
The presentation people take results given to them by
the business application and present it on the phone
and web. The business rules developers have little to
do with presentation. Many developments in the U2
world are starting to move that way, where the
: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
For George, I think a question about what would be some
potential uses characterizes our community, and is part of what
prompted me to open the discussion. With hundreds of thousands
of apps out there for every mobile device, there are any
Hi George
I use a Windows phone 7. With a web page there is a cost of time for
downloading a web page and a performance issue with screen loading. With an
app, I conform to the user interface of the phone which are more intuitive to a
phone user. The app loads quicker and runs quicker.
of this.
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Jordan
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 2:11 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
Hi George
I use a Windows phone 7
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
For George, I think a question about what
, 19 May 2011 2:36 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Pondering recent thread on compact framework
Good points there David, which I notice a lot of people don't consider
when dismissing the benefits of an app vs web.
Another point is the better offline capabilities of a native app. I'm a
lot
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