Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-07-02 Thread Holt, Jake
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support You can get your U2 support directly through Rocket. And then you can get your software support from anyone you choose. You can then tell the vendor to take a flying leap :) Or more colorful language

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-07-01 Thread Kate Stanton
As a vendor, I have kept out of this, having a vested interest. Nearly 30 years ago, we did an intellectual property swap with the then owners of MANFACT, and have continued developing and supplying our product since. We call it Beacon for Business. We believe the income we enjoy from our cu

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-07-01 Thread Tony Gravagno
This discussion prompted me to complete another blog/article in my series on Marketing in the Pick Industry: http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/tech/mv/2012/07/vars1.html I believe the services provided by resellers can be directly related to perceptions of our industry as a whole. Tony Gravagno Nebula Re

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-30 Thread Wjhonson
2:37 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support We dropped support because epicor was forcing us to pay both the DB support and their own software maintenance support, we couldn't just maintain the DB support, we would have kept UniVerse support if they would hav

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-30 Thread George Land
kept UniVerse support if they > ould have let us. > -Original Message- > rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org > mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman > ent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:54 PM > o: U2 Users List > ubject: Re: [U2] Reasons to

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Wjhonson
They can't force you to *not* have support with anyone. So you are free to get your Universe support through any other provider. -Original Message- From: Holt, Jake To: U2 Users List Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 2:37 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor su

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Holt, Jake
g.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:54 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support We here have yearly UniVerse support with Rocket. The cost is modest. We are using HP-Ux. The R

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
Well, we now have 'real' U2 and SB+ licenses. I don't know how it was done, but I guess 'by the book' Rocket can also sell new tranferable licences for whatever price they want to whoever they want. None of Epicors beeswax, really! Better than loosing a paying customer at least in my book. ;-)

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Rutherford, Marc
: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:02 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support hey marc, how's that SAP installation going? wasn't that supposed to be up and running by now? not that the suits ever get overly optimistic about

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Bill Brutzman
We here have yearly UniVerse support with Rocket. The cost is modest. We are using HP-Ux. The Rocket support gets us the database upgrades and once or twice we have had database upgrade issues that Rocket handled rather well. If we were to drop support... last time that I checked... it was tw

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Marc Harbeson
just note, by the book, your u2 licenses which are sold as embedded product are nontransferable - by the book. that's not to say you can't outright go buy new u2 licenses - but again, (depending on Epicor's VAR agreement with Rocket, IBM, et all) you may not have transferable u2 licenses. m On F

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Barry Rogen
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Varney Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:46 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support I have a potential issue

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Allen E. Elwood
ug.org] On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:16 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support John, This is tough one, it happened to me and I lost out. I personally miss the convenience of grabbing the phone and calling my 'old

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
I can understand your concern and also the reasoning of your boss. Since you are dealing with Epicor cancelling the maintenance for ManFact will most likely mean that they will cancel your U2 support too. The company I work for went through the same drama. 'You cancel the support contract for A

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Wjhonson
You should end support because it would give more independent contractors a job. -Original Message- From: John Varney To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 9:13 am Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support I have a potential issue coming u

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Israel, John R.
them, it would not be a good idea. John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Varney Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:46 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Softw

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread Rutherford, Marc
g] On Behalf Of John Varney Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:46 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support I have a potential issue coming up. Our CFO seems to want to be more penny pinching than normal and is trying to get us to discontinue our sup

Re: [U2] Reasons to continue with Software vendor support

2012-06-29 Thread John Varney
I have a potential issue coming up. Our CFO seems to want to be more penny pinching than normal and is trying to get us to discontinue our support from our main vendor (We currently use ManFact from EpiCor). This seems like a REALLY bad idea, but it keeps coming up. Can I get some outside opinions