Re: [U2] HP PA-RISC to Itanium

2011-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/04/11 01:59, Norman, David (Health) wrote: We're thinking about moving from HP-UX on PA-RISC to HP-UX on Itanium (UniVerse). I'm seeing conflicting advice as to whether there's an Endian issue or not. Will we need to run fnuxi ? (and where's the documentation for fnuxi ?) or are there

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread David Jordan
Have people who criticised U2 interfaces actually worked with other database applications. Remember the joke What hardware and operating system doe Oracle best run on, a projector and powerpoint. Too much of the competitors' products are gloss and when it comes to writing applications they

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Rex Gozar
Make them awesome. flame The problem is not the maturity of the interfaces, but the maturity of the developer community. Too many Pick programmers see the latest technology as here today, gone tomorrow so they are not inspired to learn it, much less create feature-rich software that implements

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Robert Porter
If you start running into performance issues (which with CGI and any type of volume is quite possible), and a re-write is out of the question, look into mod_perl. It can help a lot! The O'Reilly mod_perl book is now under Creative Commons license, so you don't even have to buy it anymore...

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread George Gallen
thanks. I'll look into it. Right now, traffic is minimal so it's not a problem. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:00 AM To: U2 Users List

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Israel, John R.
However, a mature interface can not reasonably be achieved if it is a canned package with vendor support that is still old style. Even the GUI interface with SB leaves things to be desired. We are locked into whatever our vendor supports - writing our oun interface for a large ERP system will

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Symeon Breen
While we are on that subject - i have been using jquery and jquery ui for a while now but recently used sencha touch for a mobile web app, they have a fantastic javascript ui library as well - http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/examples/ -Original Message- From:

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Wally Terhune
I find it interesting that Karl's original post (just recently quoted) was from May 2010: On Behalf Of Karl Pearson Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:29 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/27/2011 9:59:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com writes: However, a mature interface can not reasonably be achieved if it is a canned package with vendor support that is still old style. Even the GUI interface with SB leaves things to be

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Israel, John R.
This would be a vendor decision to keep their clients (management). Otherwise, as we have all seen, management may make a call to go to something with a more familiar interface. Thus, the vendor looses a client. I was not suggesting WE rewrite this. Has anyone ever used the conversion tool

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Allen E. Elwood
I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages. To have the entire www available with new U2 commands added by Rocket's Scientists. Hey, we went to the MOON with a pocket calculator as the main cpu, ya? I'm just saying,

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Kevin King
Allen, I believe it's possible but for one significant stumbling block: threads. And given that we're not likely to get native thread support in U2, I think closely integrating U2 into something like Apache (which does support threading) could be a Very Good Thing.

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread George Land
Increasingly a mature interface does cost money. There are several issues: 1. Training, using our SB based GUI client interface people need to be trained to do a lookup with F3, to use tab and enter in particular ways and so on. With our web interface people can, in the main, just use it with

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread George Land
Well, SB/XA takes your SB application so that it can run in a browser. That's not converting it to html, it's still working like a client application but it is in a browser and accessible from anywhere. George Land APT Solutions Ltd U2 UK Distributor On 27/04/2011 18:45, Israel, John R.

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Romanow
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Allen E. Elwood aelw...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages.  To have the entire www available with new U2 commands added by Rocket's Scientists. Other db's

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Jeffrey Butera
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Allen E. Elwoodaelw...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages. To have the entire www available with new U2 commands added by Rocket's Scientists. Other db's

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread George Land
Interviewing late last year I got a series of applications from unemployed long term mv programmers. Several of them had been contracting for years, being paid a lot of money (in some case twice what we were offering) to work on green screen applications in basic. They lacked what I would call

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Steve Romanow
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jeffrey Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Allen E. Elwoodaelw...@socal.rr.com  wrote: I'd love to see a U2 server, connected directly to the internet, with *no other software* serving up secured web pages.  To have the

[U2] [UV] Marking New Index as Built

2011-04-27 Thread Perry Taylor
I have a need in UniVerse to add a new index on a large file which has existing indexes. I don't have a time window in the coming days in which to build the index but need to use the index for new records which will be added to the file after the index has been created. Is there a way to force

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Imagine you have a really cool product written in Unidata. Would it not be equally cool to be able to sell it to someone running Universe and the smart_O_S (Rocket sos?) would understand it's a Unidata program and execute that p-code interpreter instead of the Universe one? No porting

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Jeff Schasny
Or we could just get rid of the vastly inferior Unidata product and go forward with the original incarnation of Prime Information on Unix, Universe. Its a joke. Calm down. I do however think the fact that there are still 2 products is unbelievable considering they have now been owned by one

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread George Gallen
Would that be UniUniVerse? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:28 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Imagine you have

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread Garry Smith
Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:29 PM To: U2 Users List

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay

2011-04-27 Thread Garry Smith
It would be called Galaxy - multiple universes. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:28 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Would that

Re: [U2] [UV] Marking New Index as Built

2011-04-27 Thread Perry Taylor
I think I have found an unsupported way to doing this. It appears there is a flag in the INDEX.MAP file that controls this and flipping it does the trick. I'm hoping there is an official way to do this so I don't have any surprises when I muck with the internals. Any ideas? Thanks. Perry

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay

2011-04-27 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
One universe contains billions of galaxies. What you are looking for is the multiverse. On 27/04/2011 21:31, Garry Smith wrote: It would be called Galaxy - multiple universes. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Reasons not to say goodbye.

2011-04-27 Thread Ed Clark
15 years ago I had a web server written mostly in universe running on unix. A small piece of C code ran as a demon on port 80, set up some environment variables, and forked a process that executed uv. The uv process served the httpd request using mostly basic. I had some GCI code linked into uv

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay

2011-04-27 Thread Ed Clark
sorry, there's already a multiVerse. Look at the logo page in International Spectrum Magazine. It came from the people who brought us pcVerse. I used pcVerse (a sample version of it came in the box with OS/2 Warp 4) but I think multiVerse may have been just vapor. On Apr 27, 2011, at 4:44 PM,

Re: [U2] Say Galaxy

2011-04-27 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hey, and don't forget multiple dimensions. Lets just get it over with and call it Quantum U2! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:45 PM To: U2 Users

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay

2011-04-27 Thread Israel, John R.
UniDataVerse? -- Sent using BlackBerry - Original Message - From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed Apr 27 16:44:37 2011 Subject: Re: [U2] Say Galaxay One universe

Re: [U2] Say Galaxay

2011-04-27 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On the family tree chart (http://tincat-group.com/mv/MVFamilyTreeColor.pdf) I show pcVerse from Profile. When researching it, I recalling hearing mention of multiVerse but could find no one who was aware of any users of such a product. It does show up on pages like this

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Reasons not to say goodbye.

2011-04-27 Thread Doug Averch
Hi Ed: You are focusing to much on the technical side. Users really don't care how we programmers do what we do. Presentation is everything. The ability to change colors or skins on your web site. For example, just look at the Firefox 4 or the new Dell Laptop with interchangeable tops.

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
But you're ignoring the issue that if management goes to a more familiar interface, their business goes bankrupt because it the familiar interface doesn't actually help them run their business and in fact prevents them from running their business. The vendor who wins is the one who impacts

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
Cobol still exists also. Oh you're on Unidata... well we're discontinuing that product in 2002. In a message dated 4/27/2011 12:40:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jscha...@gmail.com writes: I do however think the fact that there are still 2 products is unbelievable considering they

Re: [U2] html 2 xls

2011-04-27 Thread jonathanm
Excel will open up html files that contain tables. To make it easy to open, you can change the file extension from .htm or .html to .xls -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/html-2-xls-tp31473308p31493420.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.