Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

[dale kelley]

I goog'd 40070 and references I found said its a windows registry 
error.  That kind of baffles me,... unless the NSA is administering 
windows registry now.


On 05/06/2014 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
"Fatal Error" !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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Re: [U2] [Universe] [Windows]

[dale kelley]

Is it a particular record that errors out or can you not read any of them?

On 05/06/2014 12:04 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Running Universe 11.1.9 Information flavor on top of Windows

A process which has been running for months, has suddenly decided that it has a 
"Fatal Error" !

When I debug it further, I get this symptom.

In a Universe BASIC program, I can OPEN the file (a type 1 directory)
I can SELECT the elements in the file (perfect)
I can READNEXT each element (perfect so far)

When I try to READ one of these items (windows files) I get in the ON ERROR 
clause the error set to 40070

What has occurred?  Who has messed with what? How do I fix it?

Thanks.

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[U2] dynamic connect

[Dale Kelley]

I have a customer who just upgraded all workstations to windows7.  I
installed dynamic connect to replace their uvterm.  Under SETUP I made them
VT100 set up the scripts and folders, (all default directories), and saved
session1.dcs.  I had to SET the numeric keypad and have saved the numeric
keypad, and the session.  Whenever a user logs in the numeric keypad has
reverted to escape sequences.  They can reload the one I saved, but should
not have to do that.  Has anybody encountered this and figured it out?




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Re: [U2] Dump truck backup

[dale kelley]

Charlie, you're right.  He's already retired Metro and can only work so 
many hours.  (He's almost as old as I.)


On 03/10/2014 06:01 PM, Charlie Noah wrote:
Very possible if you're using a terminal emulator that will pass 
through mouse codes and an input routine that can be taught to 
interpret them. The biggest problem I had with that was that 
old-school users wanted to Enter from field to field, and Windows 
users wanted to Tab from field to field, and Enter to submit the page. 
I just told them to get out the boxing gloves and whoever won would 
get their way. :-)


IMHO, the assistant director is very short-sighted and will move on to 
something else when it all hits the fan.


Good luck!
Charlie Noah

Tiny Bear Wild Bird Store
Home of "Safety Net Shipping"
http://www.TinyBearWildBirdStore.com
Toll Free: 1-855-TinyBear (855-846-9232)

On 03-10-2014 5:54 PM, dale kelley wrote:
While I know that mouseable screens provide no improvement in 
functionality I would try to keep it at least "as good" as it is.  
Old users could still use the keyboard but them "winders" people 
could click their way.  Is that possible?


On 03/10/2014 05:09 PM, Allen Elwood RR wrote:


imho, mousing up just leads to disability claims about mouse 
shoulder...


a tax preparation service who shall go unnamed has a hideous package 
that *cannot change fields* unless you use the mouse, which means 
every time you type you have to reach over and grab the damn thing 
to go to the next field


i cannot tell you how many times i had to rub my wife's shoulder 
with bengay before she finally quit - took five years for the lump 
in the middle of her shoulder blade to heal


On 3/10/2014 2:11 PM, Dale Kelley wrote:
This is mostly for you folks who are contractors but I'd be happy 
to hear
from anyone.  I have a customer, Nashville Metropolitan Government, 
for whom

I have provided flea market reservation/registration and buiding event
rental software. (UniVerse.)  I am a 1 man shop.  I look both ways 
before I
cross the street and so far its worked out.  But the issue of 
continuation
of development and support has come up for a second time; along 
with it the
nature of my character based software and some reactions to 
UviVerse as a
product.  This is an email from the assistant director of the 
Nashville

fairgrounds:

"Subject: ITS Help Selecting New Software
Importance: High
Our Flea Market and Corporate Sales components have been utilizing
proprietary software that is ancient, and without documentation for 
many
years.  It has not been supported by ITS, and there is only one 
known person
in the Tennessee area that can serviced this software. With the 
upgrade to
Windows 7, it will not operate.  Obviously, we need to purchase a 
package
that will provide the functionality we need and that can be 
supported by

ITS. I am requesting a meeting, with the appropriate ITS staff at the
earliest possible time; to identify our needs and possible software 
packages

that can be installed."

He is incorrect in most of his conclusions, but this is his 
perception.  I
have left behind a number of great systems that are now defunct 
because
management viewed them as "ancient".  Does anyone else meet this 
attitude?

My customer defended the system with the following email.

"Ken
Who said our software was ancient?  It is not, it aids in insuring the
revenue stream for both Flea Market and Facility Rental, you are 
correct
that the software is serviced by one individual since he wrote the 
program,
his name is Dale Kelley and he has other members on his team that 
know the
software in the event something happens to him.  As far as the 
upgrade to
Windows 7 who said that it will not operate?  This is certainly not 
the

case, the software can be updated to run with minimal effort.  You can
contact Dale Kelley if you like, I have copied him on this e-mail.
Thank you for your time
Deborah"

Deborah's defense included a small lie about the "members of my 
team"; I'm
it.  This system is written entirely in BASIC; no procs, no 
scripts.  I
always have the source code on the system; it's theirs to use as 
they wish.
I would be happy to provide it for review.  My question: is there 
anyone who
would have any interest in taking over this and another government 
customer

if I should become defunct or inoperable?  I know there are some great
people in Tennessee, but these guys could be supported from anywhere.

I would also appreciate any advice on products and time required to 
mouse up
the screens and present non-ancient images.  I intend to arrenge a 
meeting
with the Assistant Director to attempt to address his concerns and 
see if I

can sell some services.

Dale



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Re: [U2] Dump truck backup

[dale kelley]

While I know that mouseable screens provide no improvement in 
functionality I would try to keep it at least "as good" as it is.  Old 
users could still use the keyboard but them "winders" people could click 
their way.  Is that possible?


On 03/10/2014 05:09 PM, Allen Elwood RR wrote:


imho, mousing up just leads to disability claims about mouse shoulder...

a tax preparation service who shall go unnamed has a hideous package 
that *cannot change fields* unless you use the mouse, which means 
every time you type you have to reach over and grab the damn thing to 
go to the next field


i cannot tell you how many times i had to rub my wife's shoulder with 
bengay before she finally quit - took five years for the lump in the 
middle of her shoulder blade to heal


On 3/10/2014 2:11 PM, Dale Kelley wrote:
This is mostly for you folks who are contractors but I'd be happy to 
hear
from anyone.  I have a customer, Nashville Metropolitan Government, 
for whom

I have provided flea market reservation/registration and buiding event
rental software. (UniVerse.)  I am a 1 man shop.  I look both ways 
before I
cross the street and so far its worked out.  But the issue of 
continuation
of development and support has come up for a second time; along with 
it the
nature of my character based software and some reactions to UviVerse 
as a

product.  This is an email from the assistant director of the Nashville
fairgrounds:

"Subject: ITS Help Selecting New Software
Importance: High
Our Flea Market and Corporate Sales components have been utilizing
proprietary software that is ancient, and without documentation for many
years.  It has not been supported by ITS, and there is only one known 
person
in the Tennessee area that can serviced this software. With the 
upgrade to
Windows 7, it will not operate.  Obviously, we need to purchase a 
package

that will provide the functionality we need and that can be supported by
ITS. I am requesting a meeting, with the appropriate ITS staff at the
earliest possible time; to identify our needs and possible software 
packages

that can be installed."

He is incorrect in most of his conclusions, but this is his 
perception.  I

have left behind a number of great systems that are now defunct because
management viewed them as "ancient".  Does anyone else meet this 
attitude?

My customer defended the system with the following email.

"Ken
Who said our software was ancient?  It is not, it aids in insuring the
revenue stream for both Flea Market and Facility Rental, you are correct
that the software is serviced by one individual since he wrote the 
program,
his name is Dale Kelley and he has other members on his team that 
know the
software in the event something happens to him.  As far as the 
upgrade to

Windows 7 who said that it will not operate?  This is certainly not the
case, the software can be updated to run with minimal effort.  You can
contact Dale Kelley if you like, I have copied him on this e-mail.
Thank you for your time
Deborah"

Deborah's defense included a small lie about the "members of my 
team"; I'm

it.  This system is written entirely in BASIC; no procs, no scripts.  I
always have the source code on the system; it's theirs to use as they 
wish.
I would be happy to provide it for review.  My question: is there 
anyone who
would have any interest in taking over this and another government 
customer

if I should become defunct or inoperable?  I know there are some great
people in Tennessee, but these guys could be supported from anywhere.

I would also appreciate any advice on products and time required to 
mouse up
the screens and present non-ancient images.  I intend to arrenge a 
meeting
with the Assistant Director to attempt to address his concerns and 
see if I

can sell some services.

Dale



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[U2] Dump truck backup

[Dale Kelley]

This is mostly for you folks who are contractors but I'd be happy to hear
from anyone.  I have a customer, Nashville Metropolitan Government, for whom
I have provided flea market reservation/registration and buiding event
rental software. (UniVerse.)  I am a 1 man shop.  I look both ways before I
cross the street and so far its worked out.  But the issue of continuation
of development and support has come up for a second time; along with it the
nature of my character based software and some reactions to UviVerse as a
product.  This is an email from the assistant director of the Nashville
fairgrounds:

"Subject: ITS Help Selecting New Software
Importance: High
Our Flea Market and Corporate Sales components have been utilizing
proprietary software that is ancient, and without documentation for many
years.  It has not been supported by ITS, and there is only one known person
in the Tennessee area that can serviced this software. With the upgrade to
Windows 7, it will not operate.  Obviously, we need to purchase a package
that will provide the functionality we need and that can be supported by
ITS. I am requesting a meeting, with the appropriate ITS staff at the
earliest possible time; to identify our needs and possible software packages
that can be installed."

He is incorrect in most of his conclusions, but this is his perception.  I
have left behind a number of great systems that are now defunct because
management viewed them as "ancient".  Does anyone else meet this attitude? 
My customer defended the system with the following email.

"Ken
Who said our software was ancient?  It is not, it aids in insuring the
revenue stream for both Flea Market and Facility Rental, you are correct
that the software is serviced by one individual since he wrote the program,
his name is Dale Kelley and he has other members on his team that know the
software in the event something happens to him.  As far as the upgrade to
Windows 7 who said that it will not operate?  This is certainly not the
case, the software can be updated to run with minimal effort.  You can
contact Dale Kelley if you like, I have copied him on this e-mail. 
Thank you for your time
Deborah"

Deborah's defense included a small lie about the "members of my team"; I'm
it.  This system is written entirely in BASIC; no procs, no scripts.  I
always have the source code on the system; it's theirs to use as they wish. 
I would be happy to provide it for review.  My question: is there anyone who
would have any interest in taking over this and another government customer
if I should become defunct or inoperable?  I know there are some great
people in Tennessee, but these guys could be supported from anywhere.

I would also appreciate any advice on products and time required to mouse up
the screens and present non-ancient images.  I intend to arrenge a meeting
with the Assistant Director to attempt to address his concerns and see if I
can sell some services.

Dale



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Re: [U2] Reporting Tools

[dale kelley]

We generate an annual GASB depreciation report that became too big for 
paper.  We simply began
putting those same print lines into an export record with the column 
spaces replaced by "," 's and named it as ".CSV".  You need a programmer 
to do this but you can generate almost any size excel file and there are 
products like Nebula XL that apply excel formatting.  Would save the 
email recipient any manipulation.


Dale


On 02/28/2014 02:31 PM, Jeff Lettau wrote:

Without knowing exactly what you are doing, why not take a look at ODBC and 
linking an excel sheet to your database and use the powerpivot to create your 
report?
If you are really doing a ETL you need a tool or a programmer.
I've pulled over 300k worth of records without an issue.  Although the record 
set was not 200 columns, but I'd bet you could get down to under 50 then do 
calculations in excel, then pivot the data to the report.

Please note that my email address has changed.  Beginning immediately my new 
address is jeff.let...@soundunited.com .  Use this new address for all 
communications.

Jeffrey Lettau  |   ERP Systems Manager  | O 410.358.3600  |   D 410.764.5242   
|   5601 Metro Drive   |   Baltimore MD 21215   |   www.soundunited.com
Polk Audio - WWW.POLKAUDIO.COM
Definitive Technologies - WWW.DEFINITIVETECH.COM
BOOM Movement - WWW.BOOMMOVEMENT.COM


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of jeffrey Butera
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:42 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Reporting Tools

On 2/28/14, 9:29 AM, Jeff Lettau wrote:

In the past I've made dictionary names that are very short to save characters.  
But my real reason for responding is I can't help but wonder what you need 200+ 
columns for?   My first instinct when hearing this is that a report is not what 
you need.

To be clear - this is not MY choice of report, I'm trying to explain that they are using 
a "report" as a poor person's ETL tool to dump vast amount of data to Excel and 
manipulate offline.  But I though I'd ask the question anyway.



How many rows are in this report?

Perhaps 10,000 - 30,000


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Associate Director for Application and Web Services Information Technology 
Hampshire College
413-559-5556

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Re: [U2] Logging program execution in Unidata?

[dale kelley]

Ian,

In universe the map file contains the most recent execution date for 
cataloged programs.  Programs that are just "RUN" I don't know of any way.


Dale


On 01/06/2014 06:08 PM, McGowan, Ian wrote:

We're looking into a major conversion late this year, which will involve 
checking out several thousand programs (mostly opens, reads or writes).  Some 
programs are run many times a day, whereas some were throwaway and haven't been 
touched in years.  It would be great to get some sense of which ones are active.

We unfortunately don't have a wrapper program, wondering if anyone has run into 
this before - is it possible to somehow log when a program is executed in 
Unidata?  Any magic triggers, directory flags or other audit flags that can get 
turned on?

Any ideas gratefully received,
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Re: [U2] Johnson's Lemma

[dale kelley]

Sleeping dogs.

On 11/21/2013 06:16 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

Johnson's Lemma:
On any sufficiently complex application, you will have running and useful 
routines, that predate your career.


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Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)

[dale kelley]

George,

I think UniVerse must be fully supported on Windows 7.  I just bought a 
workgroup version for a windows 7 professional laptop.  I had to tell 
Rocket what I was putting it on and their website indicates that it is a 
supported OS.  I'm like you, I would prefer linux; I'm like your users I 
want it cheap.


Dale

On 11/19/2013 09:57 AM, George Gallen wrote:

While I agree what your saying, it may not be certified to work with W7
I'm sure support will still be offered, however, if a unique problem comes
Up, then the excuse (not meant in a mean tone) that your not working with
A supported combination would be the answer, but if it's just something
That everyday support can still handle, I would imagine they would still
Take the $$ to renew a contract (just a guess).

My original response was to keep it isolated on a new W Server machine,
Or at the least isolated on it's own W7 machine. Although personnaly my
True preference would be to go with a linux server vs windows. But it's
Not my say.

But your point is well taken

George

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Scoggins
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:13 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)

No one has pointed out the elephant in the room yet, so I will.  Windows 7
is not intended for this use; while this configuration may "work" for some
values of "work", stability issues can and should be expected.  In
particular, I would expect the network stack to be, unh, "flaky" might be
the best word.

More importantly, Windows 7 is not LICENSED for this use.  I am not
affiliated with Rocket, nor can I speak for them, but I would be very
surprised if Rocket supports this configuration.

This is NOT a good idea; it has "false economy" written all over it.   I
would discourage your client, friend or whatever from going down this path.


David Scoggins




On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Gallenwrote:


Had someone ask me this question.  They are downsizing their PC's

They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the
PC's using wintergate to access it.
This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and
have it run on one of their "client" PC
Running windows 7.

My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the
services off), copy the file structure from
The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on
both systems for the install. And of
Course remove UV from the Server once all it good.

Should this be all that would be needed?

Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC?
Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server?

Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a
PC as background service?

George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
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Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n

[dale kelley]

Harold,
I did some work at a county pupil transportation garage.  They wanted to 
post their bus schedule on the internet hoping to reduce their phone 
load.  I simply put the http scripting in literals in the program and 
supplied them as I read through the bus file and built the web page in 
memory, writing it at the end.  That worked well for output only.


Dale


On 11/01/2013 03:58 PM, Oaks, Harold wrote:

This is using the SOAP commands from within BASIC?  Or some other way?

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Larry Hiscock
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:46 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n

Consuming web services from U2 is really not that difficult.  I've done both 
SOAP and RESTful transactions via both secure (HTTPS) and insecure (HTTP) 
connections.  Some examples of the web services I've consumed from within U2 
are:

1) UPS and FedEx package tracking services
2) Credit card authorization
3) Address validation and correction
4) Address geocoding using the Google maps API

Protocol logging is your friend.  It will log the complete transaction in a 
text file that you can review to see specifically where your errors are.  Also, 
don't forget that if you're going to do secure transactions via HTTPS, you need 
to create a Security Context.

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services

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Hi Rudy:

We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to.
(Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.)

We need to interface our current jail system with a new RMS that is coming in, 
and the vendors of it prefer web services interfaces.  So that's why.

Unlike you, our underlying O/S is a form of unix - hpux actually - not Windows. 
 Unfortunately, I don't know anything about WSD on unix.

You notice Richard used curl and was happy with it, but right now that is not 
available on our hpux system.
There is a download available where we can get curl along with some other web 
tools, but my system admin is not particularly enthusiastic about that idea.
Richard:  When you use curl, are you running on windows or unix (or something 
else)?

Harold

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Could you give an example of web services you are actually using and why?








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Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm
Subject: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n


Harold,



We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2.
Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing.



We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in 
basicext.pdf of the uv documentation.



The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, 
is very good.



rudy





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I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can

implement web services.   (We're currently on 10.2)

But,  finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual  (Universe Web

Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily

enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the

other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service

and brings back data into Universe.  Am I missing the something?



What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an

underlying Universe environment?

Thanks-

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Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

[dale kelley]

Brian,

Is the stamp just

VERSION = "123"  ,?

Could you explain what you mean by "cutting routines",  I've either 
never heard that term or my "old timers" is kicking in.


dale

On 08/01/2013 06:09 AM, Brian Leach wrote:

David

I add version stamps to my code that compile into the object code, so at
least I can easily check that the source and object (including that in
catdir) matches what I expect. That's at least a small and easy step in the
right direction, though that doesn't rule out changes that don't update the
stamp of course.

The stamps are always updated by my cutting routines and then the items are
then added to source control as part of the cut... If you did something
similar you can always diff what you've got against your source code control
system rather than reinventing the wheel.

Brian



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Sent: 01 August 2013 10:49
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

In UV we're had similar strange problems with seemingly unchanged
source/object code - not work as per normal and things going amiss for no
good reason...once we found the object code in BP and the catalog space were
mismatched and simply re-catalog'd it. Another time we re-compiled a program
- as it was always invoked via RUN BP PROGNAME... in both instances the
problem seem to go away.  This was in a controlled product environment so
it's in highly unlikely someone could of or would've changed the code...

In UV you can do a VCATALOG to verify the BASIC object to what is actually
catalogued...

All of these issues made me wonder if our implementation routines need to
have a more robust. More robust in terms of storing some control information
for both pre/post verification - hence being able to detect 'unauthorised
changes' through the various stages. This could include calculating and
storing (say) MD5 (etc) hashes on the source and object to cross verify
changes. Hence, make it more easy to detect object or source changes outside
the authorised/control deployment process... without having to go through
every single file and comparing to tape or disk backups, etc., etc.


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Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013 6:06 AM
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John:

That's an interesting thought.  We do backups of the application account
every night, so I do have the last 10 days object code in a backup (plus the
last four months weekly backups).  I'll look at this the next time it
happens.  Thanks,

Bill
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*Date:* 7/30/2013 11:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

I would also consider the possibility of data corruption at the
hardware level.  Granted, I would expect that you'd also occasionally
find anomalies within your source code and data files if this were the
case, but I don't know how your filesystems are set up.  If the object
code has become corrupt, that would explain why recompiling fixes the
problem.  The newly created object code will be stored on a new
location in the filesystem.  Fortunately this possibility is very easy
to test for.  Just make a copy of your application account on
alternate storage and wait for the problem to recur.  When it does,
open the live object file and your backup copy in an editor with diff
capability (Notepad++ is a good one) and see if they still match.

-John


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Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

[dale kelley]

On 07/26/2013 04:37 PM, Charlie Noah wrote:

Tony,

I think Bob may have a good troubleshooting technique here. It would 
be simple to eliminate causes. Line 107 has a couple of potential 
problems:


0107: SUPREC = INSERT(SUPREC,2,1,0,POLREC<6>)

I have seen these 3 situations in more than 1 MV implementation/flavor -

1. If POLREC<6> is null, an empty value won't be inserted, throwing 
associated values out of sync. Fix by prefixing or suffixing POLREC<6> 
with a character that won't be in the data, then converting it out later.
POLREC<6> is the unit price of the line item.  When it was entered 
earlier or just now on the fly, my input routine required numeric and I 
filter for unprintables.  So they can't get to receiving without a 
numeric price, though it could be zero.


2. INSERT sometimes doesn't like delimited source. Fix by moving 
POLREC<6> to a variable and inserting that.

I can try this.  The intermittence is still troubling.


3. If POLREC<6> has multivalues itself, that presents a whole 
different problem. Check it first.


Should not be possible unless I've stepped on it through miscoding in 
some other programs.


All these things can be checked in a little test program in just a few 
minutes, and a safer coding technique used.


Charlie


Thanks

dale
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Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

[dale kelley]

Tony made a key qualification in his suggestion, "paying customer".  In 
this case, the system has been unupgraded for 7 and unsupported for 6 
years.  (With this exception UniVerse is just so dependable!)  I've 
noticed that hard to track problems just become albatrosses around the 
customer service persons neck and smells worse and worse as the ticket 
ages on their supervisors daily report.   The customer is just a small 
county highway department.  I'm going to do 2 things; put in the 
validation(s) and build a little repair screen that lets them take their 
exception report and correct the "last" info.  This is the first time 
I've even had any plan for it except a log file which has reflected nothing.


dale
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Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

[dale kelley]

Thanks Bob,

I'll try that validation, maybe even write SUPREC and read it back for 
another validation.  (It's a low intensity system.)  At least that way I 
could be telling them rather than them telling me!


dale
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Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing

[dale kelley]

This is all very interesting to hear.  I have a customer who has 
occasional instances when they complain that a supply receipt has failed 
to update the "last receipt" fields.  This is the code:


0092: 
***

0093: 7000:* UPDATE SUPPLIES
0094: 
***

0095: SUPKEY = POLREC<2>
0096: GOSUB 7300   * reads suprec
0097: IF SUPREC EQ "" THEN
0098:RETURN
0099: END
0100: SUPREC<16,1> = SUPREC<16,1> + OCONV(POLREC<13,RCPSUB>,"MD4")
0101: NEWQTY = 0
0102: LOCCNT = DCOUNT(SUPREC<15>,@VM)
0103: FOR LOCSUB = 1 TO LOCCNT
0104:NEWQTY = NEWQTY + SUPREC<16,LOCSUB>
0105: NEXT LOCSUB
0106: SUPREC<3> = NEWQTY
0107: SUPREC = INSERT(SUPREC,2,1,0,POLREC<6>)
0108: SUPREC = INSERT(SUPREC,11,1,0,POLREC<11,RCPSUB>)
0109: SUPREC = INSERT(SUPREC,12,1,0,FIELD(POLKEY,".",1))
0110: SUPREC = INSERT(SUPREC,13,1,0,VNDKEY)
0111: GOSUB 7400* writes suprec
0112: RETURN
:

I have never been able to figure out why line 106 gets executed but 107 
- 110 do not.


My customer refers to it as "the lawnmower man".

dale

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Re: [U2] CentOS with Universe?

[dale kelley]

Dawn,

You could easily spend more on your var's efforts than the RHEL 6 and 
have no assurance of success.


Dale

On 07/17/2013 08:41 AM, Dawn Wolthuis wrote:

We have a VAR who would prefer to load Universe and their application on a
supported platform, but we would prefer not to pay for RHEL 6. I searched
the list and found a few tidbits, but does anyone have a good list of what
changes might be required to successfully run Universe 11.1 on CentOS? How
much pain would we be introducing for ourselves and our VAR, if they were
willing to play along?

Thanks.  --dawn


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Re: [U2] CentOS with Universe?

[dale kelley]

Larry knows more than me!

Dale
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Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

[dale kelley]

Thanks Martin,

I remember those days, but only vaguely and never knew those details.

dale

On 06/12/2013 07:36 AM, Martin Phillips wrote:

I can add that I think VMark rewrote Prime Information in C which really
boosted the performance.  I think they called it Prime Info or something
like that.

I'm not sure about this. As far as I know, once VMark took ownership of Prime 
Information, they gently retired it.

Are you thinking of PI/open? If so, I was one of the technical managers for its 
development.

PI/open started life in Prime Australia where the intention was to write it 
using a macro assembler called K9. Shortly after they
got started, Prime Australia was closed and development moved to the UK. I took 
a look at K9 and decided that it was the wrong way
to go as it made assumptions about the underlying processor architecture that 
were not necessarily valid if we wanted portability
without massive rewriting efforts. I made a decision that the core of PI/open 
would be written in C. This was highly contentious. I
can recall a project meeting in which the VP of Engineering stated that my 
continued employment was dependent on this being
successful.

At the time, Prime's C compiler was not good and there was much doubt about 
whether it would produce good code. One of my team was
tasked with finding a good C compiler. He took the interesting approach of 
constructing a very devious program that used all manner
of C operations to construct and display the ubiquitous "Hello World" string. 
Comparison of the resulting object code from a variety
of compilers showed that some were not that good whereas one of them evaluated 
the entire process within the compiler and just
generated a print of the literal string.

A few performance critical bits of PI/open were still written in assembler but 
I put a rule in place that there must be a C
equivalent too.

It is interesting to note that just a few weeks before first release the 
marketing guys decided to change the platform on which it
would be launched. If we had gone the assembler route, this would have imposed 
a huge delay. With C, it took just a few changes to
recompile everything.

Phew! I still had a job.


Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
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Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

[dale kelley]

I can add that I think VMark rewrote Prime Information in C which really 
boosted the performance.  I think they called it Prime Info or something 
like that.


Dale

On 06/12/2013 03:31 AM, Brett Callacher wrote:

I think it is a hard task for anyone to remember all this - gets complicated.  
This may help:
http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/familytree.html


"Larry Hiscock"  wrote in message 
news:<009e01ce42f0$092cac70$1b860550$@wcs-corp.com>...

If I recall correctly (and I may not ;-), Ardent was the company behind
UniData.  Ardent and VMark merged (or Ardent acquired VMark -- I'm not 100%
clear on the details), and retained the Ardent name.  Ardent was
subsequently acquired by Informix, which was acquired by IBM, which later
sold the U2 division to Rocket Software.

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 6:13 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

If I'm not mistaken, there was another company in between Vmark and IBM.

I believe (and there may have been some smoke and mirrors in all this) that
Informatics "acquired" Ardent and then assigned the CEO of Ardent as the
President of Informatics, or something like that, to run both Ardent and
Informatics.  And then later, IBM acquired Informatics for their database
and just inherited Vardent almost by accident.

Then, I believe that IBM acquired Unidata and formed the U2 product group.

Certainly someone (Suzie) at Rocket could clarify this and perhaps publish
an document for historical purposes to document this history completely and
accurately.

Dave Taylor
Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.




Prime Computer out of Natick Massachusetts went out of business.   One
of their products was PR1ME INFORMATION.   They were acquired by another
computer, Computervision (Thank you Mark, I'd forgotten the name).

The product PRIME INFORMATION was acquired by VMark.   Vmark was later
acquired by Ardent Software.

I don't remember if there were any companies in between Ardent and
IBM, and while this was going on, there was a separate history
happening for Unidata.  Net upshot was that IBM acquired both Universe
and Unidata, and branded them as U2.

Source - my memory, (such as it is).  I started playing with PR1ME
INFORMATION on a PR1ME 450-II back in 1978.

I bought disk drives, controllers, and tape units off and on
throughout the years from Computronix, specifically from Randy Styka,
which is where I came into this conversation.



On 4/26/2013 4:18 PM, Wjhonson wrote:

so explain that better
and whats the source?








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Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)


I didn't say vmark acquired prime. I said they acquired prime
information.

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Wjhonson  wrote:


That idea doesn't seem right Allen.
I can't find any reference to Vmark acquiring Prime, after Prime's
bankruptcy.
One reference says that the Prime assets all went to ComputerVision,
but it's

just a blog

Anyone have a newspaper article link ?








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Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:58 am
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)


I'll have to update the wiki poo pea a pages

Who is the woman in this picture?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prime9950_kean.jpg









-Original Message-
From: Allen Egerton
To: U2 Users List
Sent: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 11:31 am
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)


Prime Information was a product running as an application on PRIMOS.

  It was acquired by Vmark and subsequently by Advent if memory
serves me correctly.

IBM acquired Universe and Unidata and subsequently sold them to Rocket.

(Allen - Sent from my paperweight)

On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Wjhonson  wrote:


I don't think Universe was ever Prime.








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Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] TCL input and response logging (AD)



On 4/25/2013 5:36 PM, Randy Styka wrote:

Hi!

It's been a long time since I posted here but our company,
Computronics, has sold a product called PEEK for Unix systems
since 1993.  It is most often used for remote support, to see what
is on someone's screen.
And,
if needed to send keystrokes as if they were typing them, to help
them out or close out programs.

But one of the other uses is for logging.  PEEK can be set up to
fire off a background process when a user logs in.  That process
is independent of the user, and can run under another id.  It can
then write a log of either all keystrokes of the user (input only
mode) or of input and the resulting output.  Since it runs under a
different id, the logs can be placed where you want and they can't
be modi

Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

[dale kelley]

Dave,

I guess you're right, I originally stated it because the ICONV/OCONV is 
just a standard method I use for rounding to shorter decimals.  When I 
started Pick, I found so many ways to do things that I usually adopted 
one and from there on it's just repetition until you discover a problem.


Dale
On 05/08/2013 08:40 AM, Dave Davis wrote:

It doesn't do nothing - it rounds - if the input value is 55.5 you get 56 as 
output.  It only does nothing if your input is a whole number.;

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Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, 
XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

George,

After sending it I thought, "Well,... that OCONV acomplishes nothing!"

Dale

On 05/08/2013 08:32 AM, George Gallen wrote:

What purpose will the OCONV(var,"MD0") serve?

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Subject: Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, 
XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

if var is XXX.XX
ICONV(var,"MD2") then OCONV(var,"MD0")

Dale

On 05/07/2013 12:04 PM, Sathya wrote:

Wjhonsonaol.com>writes:


Satya the OSOPEN command.. what version of the system are you running?


Hi,.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and I have sorted out the issue.
Now I want to write some dollar values to a file. But the format in
which it is in the file is XXX.XX, but I need to write it as X.
Without the decimals the simple numbers.

Can some help me in doing so.

Thanks&Regards,
Sathya V.


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Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

[dale kelley]

George,

After sending it I thought, "Well,... that OCONV acomplishes nothing!"

Dale

On 05/08/2013 08:32 AM, George Gallen wrote:

What purpose will the OCONV(var,"MD0") serve?

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of dale kelley
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:06 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, 
XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

if var is XXX.XX
ICONV(var,"MD2") then OCONV(var,"MD0")

Dale

On 05/07/2013 12:04 PM, Sathya wrote:

Wjhonson   aol.com>   writes:


Satya the OSOPEN command.. what version of the system are you running?


Hi,.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and I have sorted out the issue. Now I
want to write some dollar values to a file. But the format in which it is
in the file is XXX.XX, but I need to write it as X. Without the
decimals the simple numbers.

Can some help me in doing so.

Thanks&   Regards,
Sathya V.


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Re: [U2] Manage $ values

[dale kelley]

Bill,

I've had a little UniData experience, but nowdays I'm all UniVerse; I'm 
not sure what happens but hopefully I'd catch it before it went to 
homeland security.  Thanks for the tip.


Dale
On 05/07/2013 05:23 PM, Bill Haskett wrote:

Dale:

Be careful with this if running UniData.  Here are some UDT.OPTIONS 
documentation:


UDT.OPTIONS 56 - U_CONV_BADRETURN
Normally, if an OCONV or ICONV conversion fails due to invalid data or 
an invalid conversion code, UniData returns the input string. In 
BASICTYPE P, if you turn on UDT.OPTIONS 56, UniData returns an empty 
string.

ON
If this option is on, UniData returns an empty string when an OCONV or 
ICONV conversion fails. Note: For compatibility with most Pick® 
systems, turn this option on.

OFF
If this option is off, UniData returns the original string when an 
OCONV or ICONV conversion fails.


I've been bitten by this in the past.  :-(

Bill


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*To:* U2 Users List 
*Date:* 5/7/2013 3:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, 
Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

if var is XXX.XX
ICONV(var,"MD2") then OCONV(var,"MD0")

Dale


On 05/07/2013 12:04 PM, Sathya wrote:

Hi,.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and I have sorted out the issue. 
Now I
want to write some dollar values to a file. But the format in which 
it is

in the file is XXX.XX, but I need to write it as X. Without the
decimals the simple numbers.

Can some help me in doing so.

Thanks&  Regards,
Sathya V.

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Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

[dale kelley]

if var is XXX.XX
ICONV(var,"MD2") then OCONV(var,"MD0")

Dale

On 05/07/2013 12:04 PM, Sathya wrote:

Wjhonson  aol.com>  writes:


Satya the OSOPEN command.. what version of the system are you running?


Hi,.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and I have sorted out the issue. Now I
want to write some dollar values to a file. But the format in which it is
in the file is XXX.XX, but I need to write it as X. Without the
decimals the simple numbers.

Can some help me in doing so.

Thanks&  Regards,
Sathya V.




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Re: [U2] Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX , MQS, SOAP or database variable.

[dale kelley]

Hi back,

Here's what I usually do.  I create a file record in the voc pointing to 
that directory and give it D_BP as a dictionary.  If that VOC record is 
named TEMP.FILE; I can then open it in a program and read TEMP.FILE1 as 
a record from that file.  Then every flat file record is a field in your 
U2 record.  Fixed length you have to count, space or other delimiter I 
use the FIELD within a FOR/NEXT.


Dale

On 05/07/2013 01:37 AM, Sathya wrote:

Hi all,..

Im getting the below error while running my code,..Can someone please help
me with this issue?

Illegal use of the file, select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX ,MQS,
SOAP or database variable.

Code snippet :

OSOPEN TEMP.FILE1 TO temp_file1 ELSE STOP "CAN Not find file"

READ DATA FROM temp_file1 ELSE STOP "Can not find temp filename"

Where TEMP.FILE1 is something like "Filepath/filename.txt". Its a text file
in the server and I want to read the contents and do some comparison.

TIA,
Sathya V.

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[U2] canon ir4025 printer on redhat

[Dale Kelley]

I have a customer who just got a Canon ir-4025 copier/printer/everythingelse. 
Unable to find a linux driver I downloaded a product called BrightQPro which
allowed me to install the printer on the redhat system.  I can print using
lp or lpr, I can print web pages and from Office, but UniVerse cannot see
the printer: "Requested printer does not exist".  Has anybody used these
products, I have done everything I could think of about 7 times.

Thanks



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