Surely The Drumheller Trick has to be where processing is applied to
records within the SELECT process itself, using I-descriptors. I met John
briefly at a Vmark bash in Birmingham (UK) some years ago, and it was clear
that this was the one HE assumed was meant by the phrase.
Matti
Yep - guilty as charged, we have a product that can help in terms of web technology,
though the main focus of Viságe is really as an application development platform.
The points that you have raised are (obviously) important but forward thinking ?
C'mon, these are features that have been
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Then some of the validation (two field
interactions) should be relegated to
The one I was introduced to was using I types to enable processing a file in a
single pass through.
You would :
LIST FILE WITH (whatever criteria were needed) I-type-dict
The effect was that you would pass through the file once, apply the selection
criteria, and if it passed you could then
Ah, yes. *That* one. When first shown that, my comment was,
Congratulations. You've just reinvented RPG. :-)
On Apr 18, 2004, at 3:24, Matti Lamprhey wrote:
Surely The Drumheller Trick has to be where processing is applied to
records within the SELECT process itself, using I-descriptors. I
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For example, aligning this back to the original post, rather than attempting to use
CR for reporting, I'd simply create a Viságe.BIT cube to give the users free-form
enquiry and data exploration
Mark,
Cubes are a way of displaying data. All those 1NF is the only way
people discovered that flat data makes doesn't server whole categories
of users. So they invented cross-linked (usually browser viewable)
report format where for example:
SALES OVERHEAD
01/01/04
[I went on and on and then said]
As an aside, pardon me for being so bold, but it's amazing that the
providers of these GUI products aren't jumping to pay people
like me to
help developers become viable candidates for their products. There's
no guarantee that any given site will adopt any
Cube summary: In an MV implementation, a cube might be a file with a
multipart key and each part of the key being a foreign key to another file.
Additionally, instead of virtual fields for summing such numbers as
total-sales-per-salesperson-per-quarter, the cube might actually store these
sums
Will,
Yes, we DO persist record locks, so a Visage application can happily co-exist with its
green screen cohorts.
I know that everyone says that this is impossible with a non-persistent application
they are wrong !
Sorry, I'm not going to publish the code here :-) suffice to
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Sorry, I'm not going to publish the code here :-) suffice to say that
BECAUSE we have had the luxury of time to develop Viságe, we have overcome MANY
problems that face this type of technology
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So YOU, as a developer, would construct a cube with the 6 key fields that the user
is interested in. You also get to do things like define an opening view of the
information - AND also the query that is
When a decision is made to replace a module, or an entire application I have
found it IMPOSSIBLE to get a Green Screen Ap even through the door for a
demo. Business Rules are extremely important, but the wealth of GUI or GUI
like applications on the market make it easy to find one that fits the
Yeah. Then I'd be accused of shooting the baby with a wet silver bullet.
Seriously folks, this is a good discussion, but it getting a bit off
topic at times. I would suggest doing what Ross did a few posts ago.
Rather than go into a long discussion about is a star schema a cube or
a
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