Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Peter Cheney]

Try in the "UniVerse Basic Commands Reference" manual -> "UniVerse BASIC
Commands" section -> "@ function"


 
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On 20/11/13 07:54, Jeff Schasny wrote:
> Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) = 
> clear screen) is in the Universe documentation? I can't seem to find it.
>
> Thanks
>


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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Bill Haskett]

In the UD BASIC manual, this information is under the "@" item in the 
table of contents.


Bill


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Not really. It has the named @ variables like @userno, @ selected, 
@vm, etc but the terminal control codes @(-1), @(-2), @(-3), etc are 
not there. At least not in my (admittedly old, 10.2) version.


HELP BASIC @ worked for me.

Thanks all.

Gregor Scott wrote:
The UniVerse BASIC Commands Reference documents it (look for "@ 
function" in the TOC)


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Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) 
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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Jeff Schasny]

Not really. It has the named @ variables like @userno, @ selected, @vm, 
etc but the terminal control codes @(-1), @(-2), @(-3), etc are not 
there. At least not in my (admittedly old, 10.2) version.


HELP BASIC @ worked for me.

Thanks all.

Gregor Scott wrote:

The UniVerse BASIC Commands Reference documents it (look for "@ function" in 
the TOC)

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Thanks

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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Gregor Scott]

The UniVerse BASIC Commands Reference documents it (look for "@ function" in 
the TOC)

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Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) = clear 
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Thanks

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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[George Gallen]

I seem to recall it was in the system manual, in one of the appendixs,
check the master index for @

George

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Subject: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic 

Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) = 
clear screen) is in the Universe documentation? I can't seem to find it.


Thanks

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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Rick Nuckolls]

The ATFUNCTIONS.H record in UNIVERSE.INCLUDE file has equates and descriptions.

Rick Nuckolls
Lynden Inc

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Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) = 
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Re: [U2] List of display control @ variables for UVBasic

[Dianne Ackerman]

I always do from TCL

HELP BASIC @

-Dianne


On 11/19/2013 4:54 PM, Jeff Schasny wrote:
Anyone know where the list of @ variables for display control ( @(-1) 
= clear screen) is in the Universe documentation? I can't seem to find 
it.


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Re: [U2] List Changes?

[Allen Elwood (TW)]

my google mail on both my galaxy s2 as well as desktop and laptop are iffy

loads of sending and receiving errors with delays as much as days

i have a friend with stuff in her outbox from a month ago...

otoh, it is free


On 7/25/2013 11:08 AM, William Brutzman wrote:

LH:

Thanks for writing.
No... I did not see my original post appear... both in Outlook 2013 and the
gMail web client.
I presume that this is a Google Mail thing.
I expect to contact Google tech support on it.

--Bill


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:


Hi Bill,

This made it to the list, and was delivered.  Did you get a copy of it?

--Larry

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Larry:

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2. We started to use Goole Mail a few months ago.

3. I only see inbound filtration settings.

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5. I hope that this message arrives there.

6. Perhaps I am being blocked for my prior transgressions.

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Re: [U2] List Changes?

[William Brutzman]

LH:

Thanks for writing.
No... I did not see my original post appear... both in Outlook 2013 and the
gMail web client.
I presume that this is a Google Mail thing.
I expect to contact Google tech support on it.

--Bill


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> This made it to the list, and was delivered.  Did you get a copy of it?
>
> --Larry
>
> Larry Hiscock
> Moderator
>
> > Larry:
> >
> > 1. Thanks for writing.
> >
> > 2. We started to use Goole Mail a few months ago.
> >
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> >
> > 4. While I also use Outlook 2013... a lot of times when I am sending...
> > including this time... I have been using the gMail web client.
> >
> > 5. I hope that this message arrives there.
> >
> > 6. Perhaps I am being blocked for my prior transgressions.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --Bill
> > --
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> > Manager, IT
> > HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
> > 35 Industrial Road
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Re: [U2] List Changes?

[larryh]

Hi Bill,

This made it to the list, and was delivered.  Did you get a copy of it?

--Larry

Larry Hiscock
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> Larry:
>
> 1. Thanks for writing.
>
> 2. We started to use Goole Mail a few months ago.
>
> 3. I only see inbound filtration settings.
>
> 4. While I also use Outlook 2013... a lot of times when I am sending...
> including this time... I have been using the gMail web client.
>
> 5. I hope that this message arrives there.
>
> 6. Perhaps I am being blocked for my prior transgressions.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Bill
> --
> William J. Brutzman
> Manager, IT
> HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
> 35 Industrial Road
> Lodi  NJ  07644-2607
>
> 973.471.7770 x145
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Re: [U2] List Changes?

[William Brutzman]

Larry:

1. Thanks for writing.

2. We started to use Goole Mail a few months ago.

3. I only see inbound filtration settings.

4. While I also use Outlook 2013... a lot of times when I am sending...
including this time... I have been using the gMail web client.

5. I hope that this message arrives there.

6. Perhaps I am being blocked for my prior transgressions.

Regards,

--Bill
-- 
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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[Israel, John R.]

Yes, the read will be done each time the record is LISTed (SORTed, SELECTed, 
etc).

JRI

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Subject: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

Lets say you have a field that calls a subroutine.

In this routine you do a read to lookup a description which it what is passed 
back.

When you do a LIST to create a report with this field will the read be done 
each time?


I was just wondering how the Universe system handle's this.

Dose the system store the first read in it's in memory and just uses that 
instead of doing a read each time?



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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[mhilbert]

The READ is executed each time, but if the record being read is in 
virtual memory, this second "read" doesn't occur at the disk level. If 
the file being read is relatively small (ex.: descriptions) it will 
probably end up in memory quick enough and not provoke performance 
issues.



On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:14:38 +, Israel, John R. wrote:

Yes, the read will be done each time the record is LISTed (SORTed,
SELECTed, etc).

JRI

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randyleesmith
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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

Lets say you have a field that calls a subroutine.

In this routine you do a read to lookup a description which it what
is passed back.

When you do a LIST to create a report with this field will the read
be done each time?


I was just wondering how the Universe system handle's this.

Dose the system store the first read in it's in memory and just uses
that instead of doing a read each time?



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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[Wjhonson]

To poke a point, let me address the issue of the
"field that does a read"

If what you mean is, that you have a dictionary
entry which is an I descriptor of the SUBR type
then the subroutine code is only read once
and stored.

If the subroutine does a BASIC READ in its
own code, that read will be repeated each time
its accessed because the system really has
no way of knowing that it's a repeat read.

If your I description only does something like
a TRANS command to a file, the file pointer
will be read and stored once, and then ref'ed
on each subsequent touch in that query.

However any underlying record in that query
will be read again.

So you get half and half.


 

 

 

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Sent: Fri, Jul 19, 2013 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads


Yes, the read will be done each time the record is LISTed (SORTed, SELECTed, 
etc).

JRI

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Subject: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

Lets say you have a field that calls a subroutine.

In this routine you do a read to lookup a description which it what is passed 
back.

When you do a LIST to create a report with this field will the read be done 
each 
time?


I was just wondering how the Universe system handle's this.

Dose the system store the first read in it's in memory and just uses that 
instead of doing a read each time?



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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[Tony Gravagno]

> From: David Wolverton 
> In UniData we also make sure the file is opened to a COMMON
> variable. Makes a huge performance difference vs doing the OPEN on
> every call to the subroutine.
> YMMV 

> From: Wjhonson 
> I had forgotten that one!

Wow, I thought that was SOP these days across all "new" MV apps of any
size. Then again we hardly ever discuss style and coding patterns in
these forums so it's no surprise that patterns like this aren't as
common as Design Patterns ala GOF.

I never re-open a file if it's used across many programs, and I use
Include items to contain the housekeeping that determines whether to
open the files and to do the opening. I use named common in D3 because
it keeps the files open across level pushing and between TCL
executions. The pattern is:

- Enter into a program
- Move into the Include code
- If current account is not the same as the prior account, set INIT=-1
- Check INIT flag
-- If not set or -1 do all initialization, open files
-- Otherwise just continue
- Return to the "functional" code

These patterns make for small and well organized code. It's easy to
make a single change that affects the entire application (need to get
them right though). Adding new modules is easier because the
housekeeping is already done elsewhere. Optimizations in one place can
impact the entire app.

HTH
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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[Wjhonson]

I had forgotten that one!


 

 

 

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Cc: u2-users 
Sent: Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:13 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads


In UniData we also make sure the file is opened to a COMMON variable. Makes a 
huge performance difference vs doing the OPEN on every call to the subroutine. 
YMMV

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fat 
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:29 PM, randyleesmith  wrote:

> In this case it is a SUBR call.
> 
> Ok, thanks I'm a little older school and speed was always an issue I had to
> be aware of.
> 
> Thanks for all the quick feedback.
> 
> 
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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[David Wolverton]

In UniData we also make sure the file is opened to a COMMON variable. Makes a 
huge performance difference vs doing the OPEN on every call to the subroutine. 
YMMV

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On Jul 19, 2013, at 1:29 PM, randyleesmith  wrote:

> In this case it is a SUBR call.
> 
> Ok, thanks I'm a little older school and speed was always an issue I had to
> be aware of.
> 
> Thanks for all the quick feedback.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> I used to be an Optimist until I knocked over the glass.
> --
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Re: [U2] LIST reports and Fields that Do reads

[randyleesmith]

In this case it is a SUBR call.

Ok, thanks I'm a little older school and speed was always an issue I had to
be aware of.

Thanks for all the quick feedback.



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Re: [U2] List..

[Bill Brutzman]

Sathya:

While I agree that there are several ways...

I would rather live in a brick house than a grass hut.

--Bill


  open 'FILE'  to fFile  else  null

  execute "clearselect ALL"

  execute "SELECT FILE"
  
  equate true to 1, false to 0
 
*  
 done = false 
  loop
readnext fileID else done = true
  until done do
read rFile from fFile, fileID else null
  thisItem = rFile<1>
  
  thisItem6 = thisItem[1,6]
  crt thisItem6

  repeat

*  
theEnd:

END  

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Sathya
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:32 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data
comes like
123456*001
123456*001. 

I would like to display the data as
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

TIA,
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Re: [U2] List..

[Wols Lists]

You don't need to create a dictionary item if it's a one-off ...

For a one-off, just put (iirc the syntax correctly)

EVAL "FIELD(@ID,"*",1)"

as the field name in the list command. You can modify the way it
displays with things like the FMT option, there are more ...

Mind you, there's a good chance this I-type already exists in the
dictionary, if the dictionary was set up properly.

Cheers,
Wol

On 26/03/13 14:48, George Gallen wrote:
> At least for UV (not sure about Unidata).
> 
> You would need to do two things.
> 
> 1. create a DICT item that only displays the first part of the @ID up to the *
>ED DICT filename NEWID
>I
>001: I
>002: FIELD(@ID,"*",1)
>003:
>004: NEWID
>005: 10L  (max width you want your column to be)
>006: S
> 
> 2. create a new default paragraph field listing DICT item (called @)
>ED DICT filename @
>001: PH
>002: NEWID BY NEWID   (Anything you would want after the SELECT 
> FILENAME...)
> 
> That's it, now when you LIST filename, it will use the new paragraph entry.
> 
> You can make any combination of paragraph listing entries you want, say you 
> called
> It "NEWLIST2" - you would use it like:  LIST filename NEWLIST2
> 
> George
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Sathya
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:32 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] List..
> 
> Hi all,..
> 
> I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data 
> comes like 
> 123456*001
> 123456*001. 
> 
> I would like to display the data as 
> 123456
> 123456
> 
> Can someone please help me in doing this?
> 
> TIA, 
> Sathya V. 
> 
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Re: [U2] List..

[Brian Leach]

Hi Satya

When you LIST a file, the database shows you one of a number of things.

1. If you are on UniData and have an @UQ phrase, it will show that.
2. If you have an @ phrase, it will show that.
3. If not, it will show the key field (@ID).

Now, the @ and @UQ phrases are known as the default listing.
The idea of this is to give an indication of what the file holds - not all
the fields in the file as that be a pain to look through, but just enough to
give a sense of the main fields.

So you have a number of choices:

1. Change the @ID field so it only returns the first part. Bad idea - it
will confuse others who expect to see and select the whole key.
2. Create an @ phrase to make the default listing. That is generally okay so
long as everyone knows that is what is being shown.
3. Create your own phrase and use that i.e. LIST FILENAME SATYA

For (2) and (3) you can word your phrase like this assuming you are on
UniVerse or UniData in ECLTYPE U:


1> PH
2> EVAL "@ID['*',1,1]" ID.SUP

That will give you just the first part of the @ID field.

Brian

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Sathya
Sent: 26 March 2013 14:32
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data
comes like
123456*001
123456*001. 

I would like to display the data as
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

TIA,
Sathya V. 


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Re: [U2] List..

[George Gallen]

At least for UV (not sure about Unidata).

You would need to do two things.

1. create a DICT item that only displays the first part of the @ID up to the *
   ED DICT filename NEWID
   I
   001: I
   002: FIELD(@ID,"*",1)
   003:
   004: NEWID
   005: 10L  (max width you want your column to be)
   006: S

2. create a new default paragraph field listing DICT item (called @)
   ED DICT filename @
   001: PH
   002: NEWID BY NEWID   (Anything you would want after the SELECT FILENAME...)

That's it, now when you LIST filename, it will use the new paragraph entry.

You can make any combination of paragraph listing entries you want, say you 
called
It "NEWLIST2" - you would use it like:  LIST filename NEWLIST2

George

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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:32 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data 
comes like 
123456*001
123456*001. 

I would like to display the data as 
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

TIA, 
Sathya V. 


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Re: [U2] List..

[Martin Braid]

If you are using SB, then use /FD and the filename (SODET perhaps) and then F5  
- you will be looking for those items with POS.SUB zero and called e.g. ORDER.NO



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: 26 March 2013 14:40
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Subject: Re: [U2] List..

I am guessing that these are lines on a sales order (SODET).  List the Dict to 
SODET (or whatever) with the LISTDICT FILENAME command.  If you are using SB, 
you will wind up with a bunch of things other than true Dicts (like screens), 
but this is a start.  Look for an I-Descriptor that does a FIELD command or a G 
(group extraction) on the key, @ID or whatever.

You could also make an educated guess as to what it might be called and type 
something like:
SELECT DICT SODET = "SO]"
Followed by the LISTDICT command.  This will limit what you see, but again, you 
have to have a guess as to what the name might be.  If you are running in 
native UniData or UniVerse mode, the select would look like:
SELECT DICT SODET WITH @ID LIKE "SO..."

This is also assuming I have the file name correct.  :-)

We use SB where I work and I build a VOC called LISTDICT2 that does the same 
thing as LISTDICT but strips out the non-Dict items.  Let me know if you want 
it.

JRI

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Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data 
comes like
123456*001
123456*001.

I would like to display the data as
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

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Re: [U2] List..

[Martin Phillips]

Hi Sathva,

You can do this in various ways, the simplest is probably to add a conversion 
code of G*1 in the @ID dictionary item.


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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data 
comes like 
123456*001
123456*001. 

I would like to display the data as 
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

TIA, 
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Re: [U2] List..

[Israel, John R.]

I am guessing that these are lines on a sales order (SODET).  List the Dict to 
SODET (or whatever) with the LISTDICT FILENAME command.  If you are using SB, 
you will wind up with a bunch of things other than true Dicts (like screens), 
but this is a start.  Look for an I-Descriptor that does a FIELD command or a G 
(group extraction) on the key, @ID or whatever.

You could also make an educated guess as to what it might be called and type 
something like:
SELECT DICT SODET = "SO]"
Followed by the LISTDICT command.  This will limit what you see, but again, you 
have to have a guess as to what the name might be.  If you are running in 
native UniData or UniVerse mode, the select would look like:
SELECT DICT SODET WITH @ID LIKE "SO..."

This is also assuming I have the file name correct.  :-)

We use SB where I work and I build a VOC called LISTDICT2 that does the same 
thing as LISTDICT but strips out the non-Dict items.  Let me know if you want 
it.

JRI

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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:32 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List..

Hi all,..

I have a small issue in listing a file. When I use LIST FILENAME, the data 
comes like
123456*001
123456*001. 

I would like to display the data as
123456
123456

Can someone please help me in doing this?

TIA,
Sathya V. 


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Re: [U2] List Voc Like ....

[Wjhonson]

I want ends with so you don't use the trailing ellipses just ...DOG
The LIKE can take single or double quotes without care (that's in the 
documentation)
You missed the point of my message which was that putting the ellipses outside 
the quotes makes the statement fail.
That's why it fails, not because of the quote type.
Try it with double quotes.  I bet it still fails if the ellipses is outside the 
quotes.






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Sent: Fri, Sep 2, 2011 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] List Voc Like 


LIST VOC WITH @ID LIKE ...DOG...
no quotes, especially not single quotes which woulf indicate an explicit 
ecord ID
Wjhonson wrote:
 LIST VOC LIKE ...'DOG'
 fails, listing everything

 LIST VOC LIKE '...DOG'
 passes, listing just those items ending in DOG


 The online HELP documentation gives no examples of using the quotes, they just 
tate it without an example.
 Or rather the example is just the 'string' by itself without it's use in 
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Re: [U2] List Voc Like ....

[Jeff Schasny]

LIST VOC WITH @ID LIKE ...DOG...

no quotes, especially not single quotes which woulf indicate an explicit 
record ID


Wjhonson wrote:

LIST VOC LIKE ...'DOG'
fails, listing everything

LIST VOC LIKE '...DOG'
passes, listing just those items ending in DOG


The online HELP documentation gives no examples of using the quotes, they just 
state it without an example.
Or rather the example is just the 'string' by itself without it's use in 
context of the ...


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Re: [U2] List Voc Like ....

[Wjhonson]

LIST VOC LIKE ...'DOG'
fails, listing everything

LIST VOC LIKE '...DOG'
passes, listing just those items ending in DOG


The online HELP documentation gives no examples of using the quotes, they just 
state it without an example.
Or rather the example is just the 'string' by itself without it's use in 
context of the ...


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Re: [U2] list DICT uniObjects

[Brian Leach]

Edwin

Sorry, missed the bit about it being in VB.

Here goes again:

A) using UniXML

Private ds As DataSet
Private Function showDict(ByVal fileName As String, ByVal sess As
UniSession, ByVal dg As DataGridView) As Boolean
Dim xml As UniXML = sess.CreateUniXML()
xml.GenerateXML("SORT DICT " + fileName)
ds = xml.GetDataSet()
dg.AutoGenerateColumns = True
dg.DataSource = ds.Tables(0)
Return True
End Function

B) Using a List(Of DictItem)

Private list As List(Of DictItem) = New List(Of DictItem)
Private Function showDict2(ByVal fileName As String, ByVal sess As
UniSession, ByVal dg As DataGridView) As Boolean
Dim dict As UniFile = sess.CreateUniFile("DICT " + fileName)

Dim sel As UniSelectList = sess.CreateUniSelectList(0)
sel.Select(dict)
Do While sel.LastRecordRead = False
Dim id As String = sel.Next

If String.IsNullOrEmpty(id) = False Then
Dim dictRec As UniDynArray = dict.Read(id)
Dim item As DictItem = New DictItem()
item.Id = id
item.Type = dictRec.Extract(1).StringValue
' etc
list.Add(item)
End If
Loop

dg.DataSource = list
Return True
End Function

Where:

Class DictItem
Private _id As String = String.Empty
Private _type As String = String.Empty
Private _fno As Int32 = 0
(etc)

Public Property Id()
Get
Return _id
End Get
Set(ByVal value)
_id = value
End Set
End Property

Public Property Type()
Get
Return _type
End Get
Set(ByVal value)
_type = value
End Set
End Property

(etc)

End Class 


Brian

> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
> Sent: 14 July 2009 12:30
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] list DICT uniObjects
> 
> Edwin
> 
> Two ways to do this:
> 
> The quick/dirty and frankly not very good way is to use UniXML:
> 
> private DataSet ds;
> private Boolean showDict(String fileName, UniSession 
> sess, DataGridView dg) {
> UniXML xml = sess.CreateUniXML();
> xml.GenerateXML("SORT DICT " + fileName);
> ds = xml.GetDataSet();
> dg.AutoGenerateColumns = true;
> dg.DataSource = ds.Tables[0];
> return true;
> }
> 
> The better way is create a DictItem class to hold the 
> dictionary elements, e.g.
> 
> class DictItem{
>   private String _id = String.Empty;
>   private String _type = String.Empty;
>   private Int32 _fno = 0;
>   (etc)
>   public String Id{
>get { return _id; }
>set { _id = value; }
>   }
>   (etc)
> }
> 
> You can then populate a List by reading each one 
> from the dictionary, and set that as the data source for the grid.
> 
> private List list = new List();
> private Boolean showDict(String fileName, UniSession 
> sess, DataGridView dg){
> 
> 
> UniFile dict = sess.CreateUniFile("DICT " + fileName);
> UniSelectList sel = sess.CreateUniSelectList(0);
> sel.Select(dict);
> while (sel.LastRecordRead == false) {
> String id = sel.Next();
> if (String.IsNullOrEmpty(id) == false) {
> UniDynArray dictRec = dict.Read(id);
> DictItem item = new DictItem();
> item.Id = id;
> item.Type = dictRec.Extract(1).StringValue;
> // etc
> list.Add(item);
> }
> }
> 
> dg.DataSource = list;
> return true;
> }
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edwin 
> > Maluleke
> > Sent: 14 July 2009 10:48
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: [U2] list DICT uniObjects
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am trying to read and list the dictionary of a file on a dataGrid 
> > vb.net express 2008. I am using the uniObjects framework/library. I 
> > just can't seem to find my way round it.
> > Please help
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Re: [U2] list DICT uniObjects

[Brian Leach]

Edwin

Two ways to do this:

The quick/dirty and frankly not very good way is to use UniXML:

  private DataSet ds;
private Boolean showDict(String fileName, UniSession sess,
DataGridView dg) {
UniXML xml = sess.CreateUniXML();
xml.GenerateXML("SORT DICT " + fileName);
ds = xml.GetDataSet();
dg.AutoGenerateColumns = true;
dg.DataSource = ds.Tables[0];
return true;
}

The better way is create a DictItem class to hold the dictionary elements,
e.g.

class DictItem{
  private String _id = String.Empty;
  private String _type = String.Empty;
  private Int32 _fno = 0;
  (etc)
  public String Id{
   get { return _id; }
   set { _id = value; }
  }
  (etc)
}

You can then populate a List by reading each one from the
dictionary, and set that as the data source for the grid.

private List list = new List();
private Boolean showDict(String fileName, UniSession sess,
DataGridView dg){


UniFile dict = sess.CreateUniFile("DICT " + fileName);
UniSelectList sel = sess.CreateUniSelectList(0);
sel.Select(dict);
while (sel.LastRecordRead == false) {
String id = sel.Next();
if (String.IsNullOrEmpty(id) == false) {
UniDynArray dictRec = dict.Read(id);
DictItem item = new DictItem();
item.Id = id;
item.Type = dictRec.Extract(1).StringValue;
// etc
list.Add(item);
}
}

dg.DataSource = list;
return true;
}


Brian

> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of 
> Edwin Maluleke
> Sent: 14 July 2009 10:48
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] list DICT uniObjects
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to read and list the dictionary of a file on a 
> dataGrid vb.net express 2008. I am using the uniObjects 
> framework/library. I just can't seem to find my way round it. 
> Please help
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[dennis bartlett]

I'm sure cds thought he was making sense...

perhaps he meant to say that in raw pick (R83 era) the system is a series of
DICTS (from a system dict called ACCOUNTS which holds all the account names
one can login to), to an account dict which holds all the filenames in an
account, to a file dict which holds all the field names in a file).

Used to be you could ED DICT VOC (then called the MD, short for Master
Dictionary) which got you to the same place as DICT.DICT
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[dennis bartlett]

it lists the dictionary that is applied to dictionaries, ie

   - allows you to change the default fields that show when you list the
   DICT of a normal file (you can change the field headings to something that
   makes sense in your world),
   - change the @ field (the PHrase that lists those fields that show by
   default when you just type LIST {dict} filename)
   - lets you see the implied fields associated with dictionaries and how
   they are created
   - change default widths of fields (not often a good idea - better to
   create your own)
   - all the other @ type variables that no-one ever uses


2009/5/18 Brutzman, Bill 

> While I am glad to find out about LIST DICT.DICT, it is not clear to me
> what it is.
>
> Elaboration would be appreciated.
>
> --Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jo Lester
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:39 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2]
>
> I lied type
>
> LIST DICT.DICT
>
> only one dot
>
> > From: jp.les...@hotmail.com
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:48 -0600
> >
> > In Universe it is LOC, in PICK it was AMC. In Universe you can find
> > the
> field
> > you want by typing LIST.DICT.DICT at TCL
> >
> > > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:48:02 -0400
> > > From: bi...@hkmetalcraft.com
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > >
> > > 1. This is not done from an SB+ screen.
> > >
> > > 2. While there could be "multiple hits" I would be happy to grab the
>
> > > first one, better yet, see what all of the multiple hits are. If
> > > there are no hits, it would tell me that I should manually specify
> > > these blank fields in the DICT.
> > >
> > > Thanks for responding.
> > >
> > > --B
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel,
> John R.
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:27 PM
> > > To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
> > > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > >
> > > Is this done from a SB+ screen? If so, you should be able to pull
> > > from one of their variables. If not, you would have to do a select
> > > on the DICT to find the one you want. The problem here is what to do
>
> > > it you get multiple hits or no hits?
> > >
> > > John Israel
> > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > Dayton Superior Corporation
> > > 721 Richard St.
> > > Dayton, OH 45342
> > > 937-866-0711 x44380
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brutzman,
> > > Bill
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:16 PM
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > Subject: [U2]
> > >
> > > From within UniBasic, I need to determine the name of a DICTionary
> > > field, given the dict field number.
> > >
> > > While I have the beginnings of some code, some help is needed.
> > >
> > > This.Field.Nbr = R.Change<14>
> > > This.File = R.Change<11>
> > >
> > > open "DICT", This.File to Dict.This.File else null
> > >
> > > read R.This from Dict.This.File, WHAT.DO.I.USE.HERE else null
> > > Field.Name = R.This
> > >
> > > --Bill
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[Jo Lester]

Sorry if I was too short. DICT.DICT is the default dictionary of all
Dictionary files that ships with the system and defines how the Dictionaries
of all files are structured.

By listing it you can see what part of a record to inspect to extract the
information you want.

You will see that different types of dictionary items have different
structures.







I don't know if this applies to Unidata as it does to Universe.
> Subject: RE: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT
> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:57:40 -0400
> From: bi...@hkmetalcraft.com
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>
> While I am glad to find out about LIST DICT.DICT, it is not clear to me
> what it is.
>
> Elaboration would be appreciated.
>
> --Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jo Lester
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:39 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2]
>
> I lied type
>
> LIST DICT.DICT
>
> only one dot
>
> > From: jp.les...@hotmail.com
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:48 -0600
> >
> > In Universe it is LOC, in PICK it was AMC. In Universe you can find
> > the
> field
> > you want by typing LIST.DICT.DICT at TCL
> >
> > > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:48:02 -0400
> > > From: bi...@hkmetalcraft.com
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > >
> > > 1. This is not done from an SB+ screen.
> > >
> > > 2. While there could be "multiple hits" I would be happy to grab the
>
> > > first one, better yet, see what all of the multiple hits are. If
> > > there are no hits, it would tell me that I should manually specify
> > > these blank fields in the DICT.
> > >
> > > Thanks for responding.
> > >
> > > --B
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel,
> John R.
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:27 PM
> > > To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
> > > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > >
> > > Is this done from a SB+ screen? If so, you should be able to pull
> > > from one of their variables. If not, you would have to do a select
> > > on the DICT to find the one you want. The problem here is what to do
>
> > > it you get multiple hits or no hits?
> > >
> > > John Israel
> > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > Dayton Superior Corporation
> > > 721 Richard St.
> > > Dayton, OH 45342
> > > 937-866-0711 x44380
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brutzman,
> > > Bill
> > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:16 PM
> > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > > Subject: [U2]
> > >
> > > From within UniBasic, I need to determine the name of a DICTionary
> > > field, given the dict field number.
> > >
> > > While I have the beginnings of some code, some help is needed.
> > >
> > > This.Field.Nbr = R.Change<14>
> > > This.File = R.Change<11>
> > >
> > > open "DICT", This.File to Dict.This.File else null
> > >
> > > read R.This from Dict.This.File, WHAT.DO.I.USE.HERE else null
> > > Field.Name = R.This
> > >
> > > --Bill
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[Charles Stevenson]

One quick point is that this is one of the differences between Pick 
heritage & Prime heritage.


See "Guide for Pick Users" in the UV doc set.  If you were a Pickie, it 
helps UV make sense in a hurry.  UV republished that guide after a long 
lapse, thanks to U2UG's pressure, iirc.
For Primates, the guide is useless except if encountering uv's Pick 
flavour or $OPTIONS PICK For the 1st time.  It might be useful for UV 
programmers leaving for D3 or JBase.


In Pick, MD was truly the Master Dictionary that serves as the 
dictionary for all the data dictionaries defined it it.
Prime heritage has DICT.DICT.  Whenever a regular ol' dictionary needs a 
dictionary, Prime went to VOC DICT.DICT and used whatever was in <2> 
there as the dictionary.
LIST  DICT  XYZ   lists  VOC  XYZ  <3>'s file  according to  VOC  
DICT.DICT <2> as the dictionary.


For extra credit:
Typically VOC  DICT.DICT  <2> and <3> are set to the same thing,  so 
that when you

   LIST  DICT.DICT
& LIST  DICT   DICT.DICT
both become self referent.
But look what happens when the paths in <2> & <3> are different.
 LIST   DICT.DICT lists <2>'s file, according to <3>'s 
dictionary.
 LIST   DICTDICT.DICTlists <3>'s file according to <2>'s 
dictionary.


I still miss Prime.  The king is dead. Long live the king.
cds

Martin Phillips wrote:
While I am glad to find out about LIST DICT.DICT, it is not clear to 
me what it is.
DICT.DICT is the dictionary that describes dictionaries (and hence 
itself too).


It is used whenever you do
 LIST DICT filename

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Re: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[Martin Phillips]

Hi,


While I am glad to find out about LIST DICT.DICT, it is not clear
to me what it is.


DICT.DICT is the dictionary that describes dictionaries (and hence itself 
too).


It is used whenever you do
 LIST DICT filename


Martin Phillips
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT.DICT

[Brutzman, Bill]

While I am glad to find out about LIST DICT.DICT, it is not clear to me
what it is.

Elaboration would be appreciated.

--Bill 

-Original Message-
From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jo Lester
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:39 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2]

I lied type

LIST DICT.DICT

only one dot

> From: jp.les...@hotmail.com
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2]
> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:48 -0600
>
> In Universe it is LOC, in PICK it was AMC. In Universe you can find 
> the
field
> you want by typing LIST.DICT.DICT at TCL
>
> > Subject: RE: [U2]
> > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:48:02 -0400
> > From: bi...@hkmetalcraft.com
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >
> > 1. This is not done from an SB+ screen.
> >
> > 2. While there could be "multiple hits" I would be happy to grab the

> > first one, better yet, see what all of the multiple hits are. If 
> > there are no hits, it would tell me that I should manually specify 
> > these blank fields in the DICT.
> >
> > Thanks for responding.
> >
> > --B
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel,
John R.
> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:27 PM
> > To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
> > Subject: RE: [U2]
> >
> > Is this done from a SB+ screen? If so, you should be able to pull 
> > from one of their variables. If not, you would have to do a select 
> > on the DICT to find the one you want. The problem here is what to do

> > it you get multiple hits or no hits?
> >
> > John Israel
> > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > Dayton Superior Corporation
> > 721 Richard St.
> > Dayton, OH 45342
> > 937-866-0711 x44380
> > -Original Message-
> > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
> > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brutzman, 
> > Bill
> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:16 PM
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: [U2]
> >
> > From within UniBasic, I need to determine the name of a DICTionary 
> > field, given the dict field number.
> >
> > While I have the beginnings of some code, some help is needed.
> >
> > This.Field.Nbr = R.Change<14>
> > This.File = R.Change<11>
> >
> > open "DICT", This.File to Dict.This.File else null
> >
> > read R.This from Dict.This.File, WHAT.DO.I.USE.HERE else null 
> > Field.Name = R.This
> >
> > --Bill
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RE: [U2] list vs. email {Unclassified}

[Symeon Breen]

Mike said - Having your desktop PC able to access the internet means that it's
accessible from the internet too, at least to some hopefully small
degree of risk.

This is why proxys where invented.  Having worked at companies where you are 
scanned as you go in, your bags are x-rayed and all electronic devices tested 
before you can enter - I have always been able to get access to external 
network resources through firewalls and proxies. If I need access to a 
particular resource in order to do my job then it is usually a simple matter of 
a firewall and proxy rule to allow it.





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MR
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Subject: RE: [U2] list vs. email {Unclassified}

It's not only to "inhibit Suzy in accounting from wasting time", and
it's not only "the PHBs [who] will not allow the users to surf the net".
Having your desktop PC able to access the internet means that it's
accessible from the internet too, at least to some hopefully small
degree of risk.

My employer requires that PCs which are connected to the Internet be on
a separate physical network to all our 'work' PCs. The only exceptions
are specified gateway servers, e.g. the external email gateway, which
are firewalled to death and heavily protected from intrusion. Our
internet web sites are not hosted on our internal network.
So to access a web-based forum, I need an 'Internet PC', the nearest of
which is down the corridor a bit. So I wouldn't be bothered, I only go
to an 'Internet PC' for a specific purpose.
Like Jerry said, changing this to a forum would also change me from a
participant to an observer.

Oh, and Happy New Year! :-)


Regards


Mike

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[snip]

> overall corporate policies meant to inhibit Suzy in accounting from
wasting time.
> 
> My 1 cent
> Mark Johnson
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[snip]

> > the PHB's will not allow the users to surf the net 

[snip]

> > in that case I would be an observer and not a participant.

[snip]

> > Jerry Banker
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RE: [U2] list vs. email {Unclassified}

[HENDERSON MIKE, MR]

It's not only to "inhibit Suzy in accounting from wasting time", and
it's not only "the PHBs [who] will not allow the users to surf the net".
Having your desktop PC able to access the internet means that it's
accessible from the internet too, at least to some hopefully small
degree of risk.

My employer requires that PCs which are connected to the Internet be on
a separate physical network to all our 'work' PCs. The only exceptions
are specified gateway servers, e.g. the external email gateway, which
are firewalled to death and heavily protected from intrusion. Our
internet web sites are not hosted on our internal network.
So to access a web-based forum, I need an 'Internet PC', the nearest of
which is down the corridor a bit. So I wouldn't be bothered, I only go
to an 'Internet PC' for a specific purpose.
Like Jerry said, changing this to a forum would also change me from a
participant to an observer.

Oh, and Happy New Year! :-)


Regards


Mike

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> Subject: Re: [U2] list vs. email

[snip]

> overall corporate policies meant to inhibit Suzy in accounting from
wasting time.
> 
> My 1 cent
> Mark Johnson
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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> > the PHB's will not allow the users to surf the net 

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> > in that case I would be an observer and not a participant.

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Re: [U2] list vs. email

[MAJ Programming]

If they can block hotmail, yahoo and myspace, then they can allow
www.rainingdata.com and www.ibm.com. The barriers people present aren't
technical, but overall corporate policies meant to inhibit Suzy in
accounting from wasting time.

My 1 cent
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: [U2] list vs. email


> Maybe you didn't get my last message. It doesn't matter around here if a
> forum is better or not, the PHB's will not allow the users to surf the
> net even to get email. At one time I was registered on this list as my
> personal hotmail account but I had to stop using it because they blocked
> access to hotmail. I also have accounts at yahoo and my space but those
> are or were blocked so I have to use my business email account to keep
> from having it blocked. The only other way would be to only look at the
> questions and responses from home afterhours; in that case I would be an
> observer and not a participant. Personally I like to think on occasion I
> have helped someone on this list instead of just gathering the knowledge
> of these fine people without giving anything back.
>
> Jerry Banker
> Sr Programmer Analyst
> Affiliated Acceptance Corp
> Sunrise Beach, MO
> 1-800-233-8483
> www.affiliated.org
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Symeon Breen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:00 AM
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: RE: [U2] testing
> >
> > I donbt understand how reading a forum is any different to reading an
> email ?? -
> > except that the date/time order is always correct and it does not clog
> your mail, and
> > you get dozens of forum style benefits which of course you do not have
> to take as it
> > then implies spending time on that darn web thing ?  - Infact it takes
> me longer with
> > the email list as I have to do my own housekeeping and setup my mail
> client to place
> > all the mails in a separate folder and then go through and delete the
> emails etc. On a
> > forum I just go to it, look at what has changed since I last logged in
> and come away
> > again all happy and relaxed.
> >
> > The reason why we all use the list is because everyone is on here, I
> use the forum as
> > well but no one is on there so it is pointless. The point is if we all
> used a forum (the
> > existing one or a new one) we would get certain things that people
> complain about
> > fixed like the time lag - which gets me on virtually every post.
> >
> >
> > Rgds
> > Symeon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman
> > Sent: 30 December 2007 23:34
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: Re: [U2] testing
> >
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Haskett
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> > >Wol:
> > >
> > >I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
> toys and go home?
> > >To say, "if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team"?  There
> are too many
> > >postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
> complicated mess of
> > >things.
> >
> > I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
> snatch
> > moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I have
> > better things to do with my time (like working :-)
> >
> > At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a solution
> > in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
> this
> > is one of those situations.
> >
> > I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
> there
> > ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
> > while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
> > reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Wol
> > --
> > Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking
> the
> > thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny.
> The man
> > lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
> > Visit the MaVerick web-site -  Open
> Source Pick
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RE: [U2] list vs. email

[Symeon Breen]

Hi Jerry - I get that (I was actually replying to WOL in the quote below) - It 
must be very difficult for you to have limited web access within the office. I 
for one NEED such access in order to do my job - log calls on the ibm web site, 
download os patches etc. Your comments on here are most welcome and I am quite 
sure you have helped many people out over the years.


Rgds
Symeon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: 02 January 2008 15:27
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] list vs. email

Maybe you didn't get my last message. It doesn't matter around here if a
forum is better or not, the PHB's will not allow the users to surf the
net even to get email. At one time I was registered on this list as my
personal hotmail account but I had to stop using it because they blocked
access to hotmail. I also have accounts at yahoo and my space but those
are or were blocked so I have to use my business email account to keep
from having it blocked. The only other way would be to only look at the
questions and responses from home afterhours; in that case I would be an
observer and not a participant. Personally I like to think on occasion I
have helped someone on this list instead of just gathering the knowledge
of these fine people without giving anything back.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org
> -Original Message-
> From: Symeon Breen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:00 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] testing
> 
> I donbt understand how reading a forum is any different to reading an
email ?? -
> except that the date/time order is always correct and it does not clog
your mail, and
> you get dozens of forum style benefits which of course you do not have
to take as it
> then implies spending time on that darn web thing ?  - Infact it takes
me longer with
> the email list as I have to do my own housekeeping and setup my mail
client to place
> all the mails in a separate folder and then go through and delete the
emails etc. On a
> forum I just go to it, look at what has changed since I last logged in
and come away
> again all happy and relaxed.
> 
> The reason why we all use the list is because everyone is on here, I
use the forum as
> well but no one is on there so it is pointless. The point is if we all
used a forum (the
> existing one or a new one) we would get certain things that people
complain about
> fixed like the time lag - which gets me on virtually every post.
> 
> 
> Rgds
> Symeon.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman
> Sent: 30 December 2007 23:34
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] testing
> 
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Haskett
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Wol:
> >
> >I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our
toys and go home?
> >To say, "if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team"?  There
are too many
> >postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a
complicated mess of
> >things.
> 
> I don't use forums. I read this mailing list in my spare time, or
snatch
> moments at work. I find forums time-consuming, and a pain, and I have
> better things to do with my time (like working :-)
> 
> At the end of the day, all too often I find that the web is a solution
> in search of a problem. It's the wrong tool for many jobs, and imho
this
> is one of those situations.
> 
> I rest my case with the fact that other people have pointed out -
there
> ARE fora out there, including those on u2ug. Why are the fora unused
> while the mailing list carries on regardless? I put it to you - the
> reason is that most people worth listening to prefer a mailing list.
> 
> Cheers,
> Wol
> --
> Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking
the
> thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny.
The man
> lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
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Source Pick
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Allen E. Elwood]

CT VOC F1

will show you the format of the items you need to add to the voc to create
more of these for your needs.  You could just write a small program to add a
couple hundred of them and be done with it forever

*=aee=*

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:23
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11




Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut?

Suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[john reid]

LIST.ITEM and SELECT * FROM can also be useful for q&dirty.


On 10/16/07, roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is F11 in the VOC ?
>
> You may need to create it!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:23 PM
> To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
> Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11
>
> I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command...
>
> >LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10
>
> EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
> F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
> F2... 11236*349
> F3... 11239*214
> F4... 11240*214
> F5... 11245*354
> F6... 11246*214
> F7... 10974*214
> F8... 11247*354
> F9... 11251*214
> F10.. 11252*214
>
> *---
> --
>
> If I try F11, F12, etc...
>
> >LIST EPT.XREF F11
>
> 0 records listed.
> "F11" not found.
> >
>
> *---
> ---
>
> The data dictionary is sparse...
>
> >LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...
>
> DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1
>
>  Type &
> Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
> OutputDepth &
> Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
> FormatAssoc..
>
> @ID   D0 EPT.XREF
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
>
> 3 records listed.
> >
> *---
> --
>
> It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.
>
> In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
> the data.
>
> Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut?
>
> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> --Bill
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Kathleené M Hunter]

To see the data unformatted use LIST-ITEM EPT.XREF.

-Original Message-
From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:23 AM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11


I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 

>LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10

EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
F2... 11236*349
F3... 11239*214
F4... 11240*214
F5... 11245*354
F6... 11246*214
F7... 10974*214
F8... 11247*354
F9... 11251*214
F10.. 11252*214

*---
--

If I try F11, F12, etc...

>LIST EPT.XREF F11

0 records listed.
"F11" not found.
>

*---
---

The data dictionary is sparse...

>LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...

DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1

  Type &
Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
OutputDepth &
Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
FormatAssoc..

@ID   D0 EPT.XREF
10L   S
ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
10L   S
ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
10L   S

3 records listed.
>
*---
--

It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.

In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
the data.

Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut? 

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill 
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Dave Davis]

list EPT.XREF EVAL "CONVERT(@FM,@VM,@RECORD)" 

(unidata)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roy
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:50 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

Is F11 in the VOC ?

You may need to create it!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:23 PM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11

I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 

>LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10

EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
F2... 11236*349
F3... 11239*214
F4... 11240*214
F5... 11245*354
F6... 11246*214
F7... 10974*214
F8... 11247*354
F9... 11251*214
F10.. 11252*214

*---

--

If I try F11, F12, etc...

>LIST EPT.XREF F11

0 records listed.
"F11" not found.
>

*---

---

The data dictionary is sparse...

>LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...

DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1

  Type &
Field.Field.FieldConversion..
Column.
OutputDepth &
Name..NumberDefinition...Code
Heading
FormatAssoc..

@ID   D0 EPT.XREF
10L   S
ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
10L   S
ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
10L   S

3 records listed.
>
*---

--

It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order
numbers.

In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then
see the data.

Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11
shortcut? 

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Brutzman, Bill]

Good answer.  F11 was NOT in the VOC.  The others... F2 thru F10 were IN the
VOC.

Thanks.

--Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of roy
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11


Is F11 in the VOC ?

You may need to create it!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:23 PM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11

I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 

>LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 

EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
F2... 11236*349
F3... 11239*214
F4... 11240*214
F5... 11245*354
F6... 11246*214
F7... 10974*214
F8... 11247*354
F9... 11251*214
F10.. 11252*214

*---
--

If I try F11, F12, etc...

>LIST EPT.XREF F11

0 records listed.
"F11" not found.
>

*---
---

The data dictionary is sparse...

>LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...

DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1

  Type &
Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
OutputDepth &
Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
FormatAssoc..

@ID   D0 EPT.XREF
10L   S
ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
10L   S
ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
10L   S

3 records listed.
>
*---
--

It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.

In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
the data.

Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut? 

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill 
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[IT-Laure Hansen]

Are you on Universe?

If so, the F1 etc records need to exist in VOC (not DICT VOC - just VOC)
to be accessible in all list commands. 


Laure Hansen,
City of Redwood City
Information Technology
1017 Middlefield Road
Redwood City, CA 94063
Tel 650-780-7087
Fax 650-556-9204
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:23 AM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11

I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 

>LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10

EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
F2... 11236*349
F3... 11239*214
F4... 11240*214
F5... 11245*354
F6... 11246*214
F7... 10974*214
F8... 11247*354
F9... 11251*214
F10.. 11252*214

*---

--

If I try F11, F12, etc...

>LIST EPT.XREF F11

0 records listed.
"F11" not found.
>

*---

---

The data dictionary is sparse...

>LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...

DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1

  Type &
Field.Field.FieldConversion..
Column.
OutputDepth &
Name..NumberDefinition...Code
Heading
FormatAssoc..

@ID   D0 EPT.XREF
10L   S
ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
10L   S
ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
10L   S

3 records listed.
>
*---

--

It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order
numbers.

In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then
see the data.

Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11
shortcut? 

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Jeff Schasny]

ED VOC F11


Brutzman, Bill wrote:
> I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 
>
>   
>> LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 
>> 
>
> EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
> F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
> F2... 11236*349
> F3... 11239*214
> F4... 11240*214
> F5... 11245*354
> F6... 11246*214
> F7... 10974*214
> F8... 11247*354
> F9... 11251*214
> F10.. 11252*214
>
> *---
> --
>
> If I try F11, F12, etc...
>
>   
>> LIST EPT.XREF F11
>> 
>
> 0 records listed.
> "F11" not found.
>   
>
> *---
> ---
>
> The data dictionary is sparse...
>
>   
>> LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...
>> 
>
> DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1
>
>   Type &
> Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
> OutputDepth &
> Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
> FormatAssoc..
>
> @ID   D0 EPT.XREF
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
>
> 3 records listed.
>   
> *---
> --
>
> It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.
>
> In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
> the data.
>
> Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut? 
>
> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[Jeff Schasny]

 >ED VOC   
Record name = F1  
6 lines long. 
  
: SAVE F11
"F11" filed in file "VOC".
: Q   
  
File name= VOC
Record name = F11 
6 lines long. 
  
: 
0001: D   
: 
0002: 1   
: R 11
0002: 11  
: FI  
"F11" filed in file "VOC".
 >


Brutzman, Bill wrote:
> I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 
>
>   
>> LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 
>> 
>
> EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
> F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
> F2... 11236*349
> F3... 11239*214
> F4... 11240*214
> F5... 11245*354
> F6... 11246*214
> F7... 10974*214
> F8... 11247*354
> F9... 11251*214
> F10.. 11252*214
>
> *---
> --
>
> If I try F11, F12, etc...
>
>   
>> LIST EPT.XREF F11
>> 
>
> 0 records listed.
> "F11" not found.
>   
>
> *---
> ---
>
> The data dictionary is sparse...
>
>   
>> LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...
>> 
>
> DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1
>
>   Type &
> Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
> OutputDepth &
> Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
> FormatAssoc..
>
> @ID   D0 EPT.XREF
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
> ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
> 10L   S
>
> 3 records listed.
>   
> *---
> --
>
> It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.
>
> In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
> the data.
>
> Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut? 
>
> Suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> --Bill 
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT F11

[roy]

Is F11 in the VOC ?

You may need to create it!

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Subject: [U2] LIST DICT F11

I came across a labor data file which I can perform the command... 

>LIST EPT.XREF F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 F10 

EPT.XREF. 1-82613 (Work.Order.ID)
F1... 11231*215   (Date*Employee.ID)
F2... 11236*349
F3... 11239*214
F4... 11240*214
F5... 11245*354
F6... 11246*214
F7... 10974*214
F8... 11247*354
F9... 11251*214
F10.. 11252*214

*---
--

If I try F11, F12, etc...

>LIST EPT.XREF F11

0 records listed.
"F11" not found.
>

*---
---

The data dictionary is sparse...

>LIST DICT EPT.XREF  yields...

DICT EPT.XREF13:12:32  10-16-07  Page 1

  Type &
Field.Field.FieldConversion..Column.
OutputDepth &
Name..NumberDefinition...CodeHeading
FormatAssoc..

@ID   D0 EPT.XREF
10L   S
ID.LIST   D1 ID.LIST
10L   S
ID.LIST.2 D2 ID.LIST
10L   S

3 records listed.
>
*---
--

It appears that this cross-reference file just appends work order numbers.

In the dictionary, I can explicitly define the eleventh field and then see
the data.

Is there a way to list the data with with something like an F11 shortcut? 

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill 
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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[brian]

'Scuse me, there's nowt wrong with .Net.

So long as you've got UniObjects ...

It's all stolen from Delphi anyway.



Brian

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> 
> Embrace the dark side
> 
> Windows .Net & SQL Server 2005
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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[Ross Ferris]

Ahhh - you want to get to the REAL programming language, then you will
have to access the COBOL submerged in the bowels of ABAP !

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage > Better by Design!

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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood
>Sent: Friday, 15 June 2007 2:13 AM
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>Subject: RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts
>
>As someone who bought a copy of ABAP/4 programming for the SAP system
>just
>to see what it was all about, I can answer a emphatic NO!  It's the
>worst
>thing I've ever seen in my life.  They may be able to make more money,
>but
>this is NOT programming as you and I know it.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
>Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 08:07
>To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>Subject: [U2] List of MV Database Experts
>
>
>   Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
>   I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and
>contact
>   information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors
as
>well
>   as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help,
>especially
>   in geographical areas where that help is sparse.
>   If the number of MV users in rising as indicated in some of the
>messages
>on
>   this list, we might all gain new business.  If the reverse is true,
>then
>we
>   can see that it is time to jump ship and learn SAP (Are the Germans
>winning
>   the software wars?).
>   Such  a  list  of  course  raises the fear that employers will see
>the
>   competition between us and try to drive down consulting fees and
>wages
>(can
>   they get any lower?).  However, I think that the difficulties
>managing
>   off-shore programming and poor quality may have taught some of the
>employers
>   a bitter lesson as to what "cheap" really means.   Of course there
>will
>   always be those whose attitude is similar to the man with a brain
>tumor
>who
>   found a "certified" surgeon who would remove it for $29.95/hour
>including
>   travel time.
>   Comments are invited directly and I will report them to all
>   Patrick "Will" Williams
>
> Patrick J. Williams, President
> AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
> www.americancomputertechnics.com
> Raleigh, NC
> 919 567-0042
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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

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All,
  This is useful, but not technical. That sounds like the ideal topic 
for U2-Community. Please continue it there.


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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[will]

Maby Kevin's list was pre-Internet, at any rate it didn't even make an 
indelible mark with the "listees" . 

An effective list would need to be advertised, on-line and in front of 
all vendors of MV database/development software and related production, 
systemic or applications software.


Will

Colin Jennings wrote:

  Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
  I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and 
contact
  information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors 
as well
  as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help, 
especially

  in geographical areas where that help is sparse.



Kevin King had a list somewhere, I can't remember whether it was for 
MV or SB+ professionals, but I was definitely on it and it raised a 
few calls - though no money unfortunately!


Col.
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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[George R Smith]

Ben there, done that !!

Trying to escape the dark side 

grs


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> 
> Embrace the dark side
> 
> Windows .Net & SQL Server 2005
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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[Colin Jennings]

  Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
  I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and contact
  information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors as 
well
  as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help, 
especially

  in geographical areas where that help is sparse.



Kevin King had a list somewhere, I can't remember whether it was for MV or 
SB+ professionals, but I was definitely on it and it raised a few calls - 
though no money unfortunately!


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Re: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[Don Kibbey]

Embrace the dark side

Windows .Net & SQL Server 2005
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RE: [U2] List of MV Database Experts

[Allen E. Elwood]

As someone who bought a copy of ABAP/4 programming for the SAP system just
to see what it was all about, I can answer a emphatic NO!  It's the worst
thing I've ever seen in my life.  They may be able to make more money, but
this is NOT programming as you and I know it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 08:07
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] List of MV Database Experts


   Is there a list of MV experts reachable via the Internet?
   I am thinking that such list would give name or company name and contact
   information along with number of years with MV and perhaps flavors as
well
   as applications.  This would provide an on-line source for help,
especially
   in geographical areas where that help is sparse.
   If the number of MV users in rising as indicated in some of the messages
on
   this list, we might all gain new business.  If the reverse is true, then
we
   can see that it is time to jump ship and learn SAP (Are the Germans
winning
   the software wars?).
   Such  a  list  of  course  raises the fear that employers will see the
   competition between us and try to drive down consulting fees and wages
(can
   they get any lower?).  However, I think that the difficulties managing
   off-shore programming and poor quality may have taught some of the
employers
   a bitter lesson as to what "cheap" really means.   Of course there will
   always be those whose attitude is similar to the man with a brain tumor
who
   found a "certified" surgeon who would remove it for $29.95/hour including
   travel time.
   Comments are invited directly and I will report them to all
   Patrick "Will" Williams

 Patrick J. Williams, President
 AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
 www.americancomputertechnics.com
 Raleigh, NC
 919 567-0042
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RE: [U2] List of ERP suppliers

[DAWES, Ray]

[demime could not interpret encoding quoted-printable  - treating as plain text]
 IBS from Maxima has worked well for us for 17 years.

www.maxima.co.uk

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Hi all,



Can anyone suggest a very good ERP solution running on universe?



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RE: [U2] List of ERP suppliers

[Brutzman, Bill]

Consider www.Epicor.com.  Epicor has a spectrum of products.  At one time,
Avante was their flagship ERP solution.

Also consider www.GRMS.com.

Regards,

--Bill

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Hi all,



Can anyone suggest a very good ERP solution running on universe?



Regards,

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RE: [U2] List of ERP suppliers

[John Carter]

Epicor's Avante is one good choice

 


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Hi all,



Can anyone suggest a very good ERP solution running on universe?



Regards,

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RE: [U2] List down time

[Morgan, Katie]

Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf!

Katie

Katie Morgan
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Re: [U2] List files

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RE: [U2] list files

[george r smith]

Exactly - I am always amazed by all the people who want to help those
who are transferring programming jobs to India. Have you noticed that you
don't get any help comming from the outsourcing sites.

george

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RE: [U2] list files

[Bob Woodward]

I'm like almost every one else on this list.  I don't mind sharing my
knowledge with anyone, regardless of who they are, but when we start
getting into things that are so plainly documented and the documents are
even on-line, that's when I start figuring enough is enough.  Show that
you've made the attempt to find the answer and you're not just being
lazy and taking advantage of all the good folks here, and I'll bend over
backwards to help someone out.

But that's just me and my jaded perspective.  Lash me with a wet noodle
if that'll help you out!

Oh, and these comments are my own and nobody else's so don't be bugging
anyone.  'Kay?

BobW
 

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It's not going to happen until we stop doing her job for her for free.

Tom 
 

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Yeah, Read The Fine Manual. It's basically what I suggested to her back
on
the 29th.

--
daw

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> 
> 
> It took me a moment, but I love the "RTFM" acronym. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
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> Anita,
> 
> RTFM
> 
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/u
> niv_101.ht
> ml
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
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> I do this at the OS level...
> 
> --Bill
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> 
> Hi,
> I have connected on to a remote Universe instance.I want to 
> see all the 
> files and tables in that instance .What is the command to see all the
> main 
> programs ,subroutines and tables.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anita
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RE: [U2] list files

[Bill H]

:-) 

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Outsourcing companies should make use of the following resource before 
accepting contracts for work they don't know how to do, then asking list 
members to do their work for them for free.

*http://tinyurl.com/2trsr3

Regards,

Clif

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> I have connected .
>
> Thanks,
> Anita
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RE: [U2] list files

[Tom Dodds]

It's not going to happen until we stop doing her job for her for free.

Tom 
 

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Yeah, Read The Fine Manual. It's basically what I suggested to her back on
the 29th.

--
daw

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> 
> 
> It took me a moment, but I love the "RTFM" acronym. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
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> 
> Anita,
> 
> RTFM
> 
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/u
> niv_101.ht
> ml
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
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> Brutzman, Bill
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> 
> I do this at the OS level...
> 
> --Bill
> 
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have connected on to a remote Universe instance.I want to 
> see all the 
> files and tables in that instance .What is the command to see all the
> main 
> programs ,subroutines and tables.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anita
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Re: [U2] list files

[Jeffrey Butera]

> How about "HAFUP"?

Hire a Fine Universe Professional.

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RE: [U2] list files

[Dan Fitzgerald]

How about "HAFUP"?

Where H="Hire", U="UniVerse", and F="Knowledgeable".

-Original Message-
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It took me a moment, but I love the "RTFM" acronym. 




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It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"

BobW
 

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Anita,

RTFM

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.ht
ml

BobW
 

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I do this at the OS level...

--Bill

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Hi,
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Thanks,
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RE: [U2] list files

[Dave Walker]

Yeah, Read The Fine Manual. It's basically what I suggested to her back on
the 29th.

--
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> 
> 
> It took me a moment, but I love the "RTFM" acronym. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Anita,
> 
> RTFM
> 
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/u
> niv_101.ht
> ml
> 
> BobW
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Brutzman, Bill
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> 
> I do this at the OS level...
> 
> --Bill
> 
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have connected on to a remote Universe instance.I want to 
> see all the 
> files and tables in that instance .What is the command to see all the
> main 
> programs ,subroutines and tables.
> 
> Thanks,
> Anita
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RE: [U2] list files

[Bobby Worley]

It took me a moment, but I love the "RTFM" acronym. 




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It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"

BobW
 

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Anita,

RTFM

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.ht
ml

BobW
 

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I do this at the OS level...

--Bill

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Re: [U2] list files

[Dave]

Perhaps the outsourcing company, can outsource their work to another company ?
   
  My company would be willing to help them out.
   
  

Clifton Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Outsourcing companies should make use of the following resource before 
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members to do their work for them for free.

*http://tinyurl.com/2trsr3


*
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RE: [U2] list files

[Bob Woodward]

It word wrapped.  The last part of that url is "univ_101.html"

BobW
 

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Anita,

RTFM

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.ht
ml

BobW
 

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I do this at the OS level...

--Bill

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RE: [U2] list files

[Bob Woodward]

Anita,

RTFM

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.ht
ml

BobW
 

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I do this at the OS level...

--Bill

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Re: [U2] list files

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Outsourcing companies should make use of the following resource before 
accepting contracts for work they don't know how to do, then asking list 
members to do their work for them for free.

*http://tinyurl.com/2trsr3


*
-- 

Regards,

Clif


*

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RE: [U2] list files

[Brutzman, Bill]

I do this at the OS level...

--Bill

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RE: [U2] List status

[Allen E. Elwood]

Hayyp Nwee Years Bill, Hic.!!!  ;-)

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I'm wondering what the status of the list is?  If I see this email then it's
just slow this weekend.

Sorry for the excess traffic...  :-)

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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Stuart . Boydell]

   John,

   If Design Bais is riding on the back of SB+ field definitions then you
   may  be able to use D/I types. SB+ can be set to create and maintain D
   & I types by setting DMCONT SB.CONTROL<34,1> = 1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]<34,1>).

   At  last  look  there was a bug in the UV version of SB.FD.S regarding
   setting  the  S/M  field  for "I(function)" type derived fields. Maybe
   they've fixed it. I just wrote a quick/dirty wrapper for SB.FD.S which
   handled it.

   0001 subroutine SB.FD.S

   0002 * wrapper to 'fix' SB+ I(function) derived fields not setting S/M
   field correctly

   0003

   0004 include DMSKELCODE COMMON

   0005

   0006localParam  = PARAM

   0007localKey= KEY

   0008localValue  = VALUE

   0009localRecord = RECORD

   0010localFile   = F.FILE

   0011

   0012 sbFDS  = '*SB+.DEFN*SB.FD.S' ;*// globally catalogue original
   SB+ subroutine.

   0013call @sbFDS

   0014

   0015   if   SB.CONT<34,1>   =   1   and   localParam   =   4   and
   localRecord<8>[1,2] = 'I(' and index(localRecord<2>,'M',1) = 0 then

   0016   recordlocku localFile,localKey locked return

   0017   writev 'S' on localFile,localKey,6

   0018end

   0019

   0020 return

   __

   Stuart,
   it  just  so  happens that Design Bais will convert D types to A types
   when
   you modify anything that is not confined to their extended dictionary.
   Maybe System Builder does the same thing ?
   Hence  you  can  end  up  loosing  certain  dict info such as S/M, SQL
   settings and
   Value marks in the headings.
   Even  though i came from a pick background i prefer D & Is so i am not
   happy
   about   this   and  would  prefer  the  original  dictionary  type  be
   maintained.
   Hopefully this will be addressed but in the meantime if its an issue i
   can
   create  a  separate  dictionary but it means you have to be careful in
   accounts
   that are not primarily DB.
   jak

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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Kevin King]

System Builder (that is, SB+) will not let you modify a dictionary
with it's Field Definition tool if it wasn't created in SB+ or
converted into that format. 


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Stuart,
it just so happens that Design Bais will convert D types to A
types when you modify anything that is not confined to their extended
dictionary.
Maybe System Builder does the same thing ?

Hence you can end up loosing certain dict info such as S/M, SQL
settings and Value marks in the headings.

Even though i came from a pick background i prefer D & Is so i am not
happy about this and would prefer the original dictionary type be
maintained.
Hopefully this will be addressed but in the meantime if its an issue i
can create a separate dictionary but it means you have to be careful
in accounts that are not primarily DB.

jak
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>   John,
>
>   Yep,  I think you're probably right about A-types being inherently
MV.
>   According  to  the  documentation  I  mentioned before (which you
read
>   of-course ;) the S/M in an `A' type dictionary is only relevant to
SQL
>   statements  and not Retrieve. So unless your front-end can
interrogate
>   the  DICT  and do something with the value in attr 5 to build
specific
>   WHEN  expressions, I would go with the previous suggestion and
convert
>   them to D and I types, they're heaps (a quantum) more functional.
>
>   FYI  - "LIST DICT" uses an I-type to interrogate the dictionary
field;
>   if  you're  brave  (!!))  you  can  change this in DICT.DICT to
report
>   anything you like.
>
>   S
>
>
__
>
>   From: "John Kent"
>   if you make either on of these S,
>   LIST DICT still displays the depth and assoc as M not S
>   On what does it base this decision.
>   It looks like Universe assumes all A types are inherently
multivalue.
>
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[John Kent]

Stuart,
   it just so happens that Design Bais will convert D types to A types when 
you modify anything that is not confined to their extended dictionary.

Maybe System Builder does the same thing ?

Hence you can end up loosing certain dict info such as S/M, SQL settings and 
Value marks in the headings.


Even though i came from a pick background i prefer D & Is so i am not happy 
about this and would prefer the original dictionary type be maintained.
Hopefully this will be addressed but in the meantime if its an issue i can 
create a separate dictionary but it means you have to be careful in accounts 
that are not primarily DB.


jak
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  John,

  Yep,  I think you're probably right about A-types being inherently MV.
  According  to  the  documentation  I  mentioned before (which you read
  of-course ;) the S/M in an `A' type dictionary is only relevant to SQL
  statements  and not Retrieve. So unless your front-end can interrogate
  the  DICT  and do something with the value in attr 5 to build specific
  WHEN  expressions, I would go with the previous suggestion and convert
  them to D and I types, they're heaps (a quantum) more functional.

  FYI  - "LIST DICT" uses an I-type to interrogate the dictionary field;
  if  you're  brave  (!!))  you  can  change this in DICT.DICT to report
  anything you like.

  S

  __

  From: "John Kent"
  if you make either on of these S,
  LIST DICT still displays the depth and assoc as M not S
  On what does it base this decision.
  It looks like Universe assumes all A types are inherently multivalue.

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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Stevenson, Charles]

>FYI  - "LIST DICT" uses an I-type to interrogate the dictionary
field;
>if  you're  brave  (!!))  you  can  change this in  DICT.DICT to
report
>anything you like.

There's also a PICK.DICT defined in uvhome:

>CT VOC DICT.PICK
 DICT.PICK
0001 F
0002 /dbms/uv/DICT.PICK
0003 /dbms/uv/DICT.DICT

So you can say LIST DICT myfile USING DICT.PICK
or alter or replace DICT.DICT using this.
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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Stuart . Boydell]

   John,

   Yep,  I think you're probably right about A-types being inherently MV.
   According  to  the  documentation  I  mentioned before (which you read
   of-course ;) the S/M in an `A' type dictionary is only relevant to SQL
   statements  and not Retrieve. So unless your front-end can interrogate
   the  DICT  and do something with the value in attr 5 to build specific
   WHEN  expressions, I would go with the previous suggestion and convert
   them to D and I types, they're heaps (a quantum) more functional.

   FYI  - "LIST DICT" uses an I-type to interrogate the dictionary field;
   if  you're  brave  (!!))  you  can  change this in DICT.DICT to report
   anything you like.

   S

   __

   From: "John Kent"
   if you make either on of these S,
   LIST DICT still displays the depth and assoc as M not S
   On what does it base this decision.
   It looks like Universe assumes all A types are inherently multivalue.

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Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[John Kent]

Bill,
   thanks for that but i dont think i will be adding to field 11, too many 
dict items.


I could always set up alternative dictionarys but would rather not have to 
do this.


jak


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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc



Dictionaries do not control the contents of data files, so there's no real
way to to determine if an attribute contains multi-values or not.
Generally, MV databases are multi-value self aware.  This does not apply 
to
UniData (except for conversion codes).  By this I mean if you "LIST 
SOMEFILE

SOMEFIELD" you will get output that will look like:

SOMEFILE.. SOMEFIELD.
1  14016
  14017
  14018
2  14019

...where records in the file have multi-values in the SOMEFIELD attribute.
If you place a conversion code, like "D2/", in attribute 7 or 8 of an "A" 
or

"S" type dictionary, the conversion will execute on each value:

SOMEFILE.. SOMEFIELD.
1  05/16/2006
  05/17/2006
  05/18/2006
2  05/19/2006

For reasons I won't get into here, conversion codes are normally placed 
into
attribute 7 of an "A" or "S" type dictionary (attribute 3 of "D" or 
"I"/"V"

type dictionaries).

"D" or "I"/"V" type dictionaries do contain a loose definition of whether 
an

attribute is multi-value or not.  Attribute 6 of this type of dictionary
contains that information.  In UniData, in order for multi-value 
processing

to occur in UniQuery, this attribute __MUST__ be defined as multi-valued.
Still, however, the database does not require it.

The use of attribute 4 and 5 of an "A" or "S" type dictionary defines a
multi-value association.  For instance, if an A/P invoice record exists it
usually has two attributes defined as G/L account#s and associated 
amounts.
In this case you could define an association in these types of 
dictionaries

as "D;.." and "C;..", where ".." is the appropriate associated attribute
number.  One of these is controlling and one is dependent.  This concept
doesn't really exist in UV and UD, except in these types of attributes (UV
only).

So, if you're using a front-end tool you can define an "A" or "S" type
dictionary as multi-value by putting an "M" or "S" in attribute 11 of the
dictionary then tell your tool to look there.

Hope this helps.

Bill



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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

Stuart,

If you make either one of these S, LIST DICT still
displays the depth and assoc as M not S

On what does it base this decision.  It looks like
Universe assumes all A types are inherently multivalue.

jak

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> You can use attribute 4 and 5 of the dictionary (UV
> System Description pdf  pp5-20  for  complete  details)
> or  use  the Retrieve  keywords
>   MULTIVALUE and SINGLEVALUE at TCL
> to override default behaviours.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Stuart
>
> 
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell Universe
> that an A type dictionary item is a single value and not
> a multivalue like you can in D or I type items.
>
> It seems that Universe catagorises these as M.
> Knowing this can be useful when combining dict items
> with a WHEN via a front end.

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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Bill Haskett]

Dictionaries do not control the contents of data files, so there's no real
way to to determine if an attribute contains multi-values or not.
Generally, MV databases are multi-value self aware.  This does not apply to
UniData (except for conversion codes).  By this I mean if you "LIST SOMEFILE
SOMEFIELD" you will get output that will look like:

SOMEFILE.. SOMEFIELD.
1  14016
   14017
   14018
2  14019

...where records in the file have multi-values in the SOMEFIELD attribute.
If you place a conversion code, like "D2/", in attribute 7 or 8 of an "A" or
"S" type dictionary, the conversion will execute on each value:

SOMEFILE.. SOMEFIELD.
1  05/16/2006
   05/17/2006
   05/18/2006
2  05/19/2006

For reasons I won't get into here, conversion codes are normally placed into
attribute 7 of an "A" or "S" type dictionary (attribute 3 of "D" or "I"/"V"
type dictionaries).  

"D" or "I"/"V" type dictionaries do contain a loose definition of whether an
attribute is multi-value or not.  Attribute 6 of this type of dictionary
contains that information.  In UniData, in order for multi-value processing
to occur in UniQuery, this attribute __MUST__ be defined as multi-valued.
Still, however, the database does not require it.

The use of attribute 4 and 5 of an "A" or "S" type dictionary defines a
multi-value association.  For instance, if an A/P invoice record exists it
usually has two attributes defined as G/L account#s and associated amounts.
In this case you could define an association in these types of dictionaries
as "D;.." and "C;..", where ".." is the appropriate associated attribute
number.  One of these is controlling and one is dependent.  This concept
doesn't really exist in UV and UD, except in these types of attributes (UV
only).

So, if you're using a front-end tool you can define an "A" or "S" type
dictionary as multi-value by putting an "M" or "S" in attribute 11 of the
dictionary then tell your tool to look there.

Hope this helps.

Bill


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kent
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:26 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc
> 
> Stuart,
>
> If you make either one of these S, LIST DICT still
> displays the depth and assoc as M not S
> 
> On what does it base this decision.  It looks like
> Universe assumes all A types are inherently multivalue.
> 
> jak
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc
> 
> 
> > You can use attribute 4 and 5 of the dictionary (UV 
> > System Description pdf  pp5-20  for  complete  details)
> > or  use  the Retrieve  keywords
> >   MULTIVALUE and SINGLEVALUE at TCL 
> > to override default behaviours.
> > 
> >   Cheers,
> > 
> >   Stuart
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell Universe 
> > that an A type dictionary item is a single value and not
> > a multivalue like you can in D or I type items.
> >
> > It seems that Universe catagorises these as M.
> > Knowing this can be useful when combining dict items
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Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[John Kent]

Stuart,
   if you make either on of these S, 
LIST DICT still displays the depth and assoc as M not S


On what does it base this decision.
It looks like Universe assumes all A types are inherently multivalue.

jak
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  You can use attribute 4 and 5 of the dictionary (UV System Description
  pdf  pp5-20  for  complete  details)  or  use  the  Retrieve  keywords
  MULTIVALUE and SINGLEVALUE at TCL to override default behaviours.

  Cheers,

  Stuart

  __

  Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell Universe that an A type
  dictionary item is a single value and not a multivalue like you can in
  D or I
  type items.
  It seems that Universe catagorises these as M
  Knowing this can be useful when combining dict items with a WHEN via a
  front
  end

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RE: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Stuart . Boydell]

   You can use attribute 4 and 5 of the dictionary (UV System Description
   pdf  pp5-20  for  complete  details)  or  use  the  Retrieve  keywords
   MULTIVALUE and SINGLEVALUE at TCL to override default behaviours.

   Cheers,

   Stuart

   __

   Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell Universe that an A type
   dictionary item is a single value and not a multivalue like you can in
   D or I
   type items.
   It seems that Universe catagorises these as M
   Knowing this can be useful when combining dict items with a WHEN via a
   front
   end

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Re: [U2] LIST DICT FILE Depth and Assoc

[Bruce Nichol]

Goo'day, John,

At 15:42 16/05/06 +1000, you wrote:


Can anyone tell me if there is a way to tell Universe that an A type
dictionary item is a single value and not a multivalue like you can in D or I
type items.

It seems that Universe catagorises these as M
Knowing this can be useful when combining dict items with a WHEN via a front
end


Can't really remember ... I've slept since I last heard about it but 
hasn't it got something to do with the controlling/dependant attributes of 
a dict item (Attr 4 & 5)


If it is UV that you're playing with, why don't you just create a D- or 
I-type item to replicate the A-type?Silly question?



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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Ron Sharcott]

Oh, I forgot a point. I'm not entirely sure but I believe our Institution
has it set up that Out of Office replies only go out to our network. I could
be wrong but I've never seen one of my own or one of my colleagues OoO
replies from a list that I know they are on. Of course, this might just be a
setting in your email client. Like, "Don't reply to lists".


Ron Sharcott (3635)


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I will be in training on Wednesday, 10/12/06.

I will have limited access to e-mail and voice mail during this time.  I
will be able to see your mail during this time, but may not be able to
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Ron Sharcott]

My 0.02 USD (0.05 CAN)

Interesting. I find myself looking back to before I worked in IT and always
hated using Reply All. Most email conversations then were between
individuals. As I moved into an Educational institution I found that Reply
All was necessary as groups were not always available to reply to. 

Now, having to be on several lists and attempting to be a 'good' member of
the community I try to throw in the odd word here and there. This often
means that Reply All is the easiest way to make sure that you get everyone.
If I don't want to clutter the list then just Reply to the individual. This
often works for suggested fixes where the expectation is that the person
would eventually post their thanks with what worked.

As  courtesy, when I Reply All to a list I often edit the sender out. After
all, they get theirs from the list and really don't need two copies. Until a
programmer can make a Reply All button that can detect that your replying to
a list and to strip out the sender from the list of addresses... Well, lets
just say that that won't happen easily.

I always find it funny that Change Management falls under IT yet IT is what
doesn't want to change how they do things. Even if all it requires is "move
the mouse 1 inch to the right".


Ron Sharcott (3635)


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 just as amusing as the fact the list ever had to be changed in the first
place for pretty much the same type of reason.

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Hehe...

I find it amusing that a news list will starve because a bunch of computer
proffesionals can't change behavior and move the mouse 1 inch to the right
to do a 'reply to all', what do you do when a change in legislation makes it
neccessary to change a program ?? - ignores the change because it's annoying
to implement the change ?

I don't think the list will starve, eventually people will learn to move the
mouse that teeny little bit :-)

best regards from Denmark

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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[gerry-u2ug]

 just as amusing as the fact the list ever had to be changed in the
first place for pretty much the same type of reason.

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Hehe...

I find it amusing that a news list will starve because a bunch of
computer proffesionals can't change behavior and move the mouse 1 inch
to the right to do a 'reply to all', what do you do when a change in
legislation makes it neccessary to change a program ?? - ignores the
change because it's annoying to implement the change ?

I don't think the list will starve, eventually people will learn to move
the mouse that teeny little bit :-)

best regards from Denmark

Claus Derlien
Programmxr

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* Paghs Gerd * Overstrfde 2B
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Re: [U2] List dead ?

[Louie Bergsagel]

I sure am getting sick of this reply-to-one or reply-to-all debate.

If we, as supposedly talented programmers, can't find or write a listserver
that needs no human intervention, then we deserve the Out of Office
stupidity.

Louie Bergsagel
2006 President, Seattle Area Pick User's Group
speaking for myself

p.s. as a public list, there should be no other option than "reply to all",
imho.


On 4/11/06, Allen E. Elwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think the admin is a very intelligent person that has work do to and
> ***GET PAID*** for it, instead of wasting his valuable time filtering
> emails
> from people that go on vacation/out of office work and don't have the
> common
> sense to unsubscribe from this list until they come back.
>
> Now if these supposedly talented programmers could learn to use their
> emails
> correctly, we would still have the 'REPLY TO' working.  But noOooo,
> they
> have their "Out of Office" reply to their own "Out of Office" replies and
> in
> a couple of minutes you get the deadly embrace of zillions of emails
> generated.
>
> So we end up with this mess.  If you want to direct your frustration at
> someone, it should be at them, not at someone that is volunteering their
> time for your benefit.
>
> imnsho
>
> And now that I've spent 20 minutes on this reply, I have to go back to
> work
> and get paid for it.  And at my rate that makes it this my $25.00 worth...
> -Original Message-
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sharyl Lindsay
>
> Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
> feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
> myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
> *something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
> people who can't filter whiners.
>
> My .02.
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Apologies in order RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Sharyl Lindsay]

 In some ways, my intent was clear and in some ways I've definitely put
my foot in it.

I meant to be harsh but I truly did not mean to go after the person, I
meant to go after the behavior. For that. I am terribly sorry.


Sharyl

Rob:  Harshness does not denote a lack of intelligence or a necessity
for learning. It just means I don't always have or choose to use a tact
filter ;)

I'm more than willing to help out where I can.  If you have suggestions,
where I might be of use, I would be willing to offer my time.


> -Original Message-
> From: Sharyl Lindsay 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:26 AM
> To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
> Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?
> 
>  Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a 
> person, I feel the list has died a slow death. I've been 
> thinking of unsubscribing myself but I just can't bring 
> myself to lose the chance to stop learning *something* just  
> because I think the list admin is an idiot and the people who 
> can't filter whiners. 
> 
> My .02.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Jerry Banker
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:21 AM
> > To: gerry-u2ug; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?
> > 
> > Just a slow week.
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Allen E. Elwood]

I think the admin is a very intelligent person that has work do to and
***GET PAID*** for it, instead of wasting his valuable time filtering emails
from people that go on vacation/out of office work and don't have the common
sense to unsubscribe from this list until they come back.

Now if these supposedly talented programmers could learn to use their emails
correctly, we would still have the 'REPLY TO' working.  But noOooo, they
have their "Out of Office" reply to their own "Out of Office" replies and in
a couple of minutes you get the deadly embrace of zillions of emails
generated.

So we end up with this mess.  If you want to direct your frustration at
someone, it should be at them, not at someone that is volunteering their
time for your benefit.

imnsho

And now that I've spent 20 minutes on this reply, I have to go back to work
and get paid for it.  And at my rate that makes it this my $25.00 worth...
-Original Message-
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sharyl Lindsay

 Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
*something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
people who can't filter whiners.

My .02.
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Dave Walker]

My original response was almost identical to yours. Unfortunately, I did not
"reply to all".

Hm.
--
Dave Walker

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Horn, John
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:10 PM
To: Sharyl Lindsay; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?


> On Behalf Of > Sharyl Lindsay
> 
>  Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a 
> person, I feel the list has died a slow death. I've been 
> thinking of unsubscribing myself but I just can't bring 
> myself to lose the chance to stop learning
> *something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot 
> and the people who can't filter whiners. 

Don't hold back.  Tell us how you *really* feel.  ;-)

  - jmh
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Re: [U2] List dead ?

[Dawn Wolthuis]

On 4/11/06, Sharyl Lindsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
> feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
> myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
> *something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
> people who can't filter whiners.
>
> My .02.

I sure would like to see the list changed again so that it is a "reply
to all" too.  I have seen too many communities fade away when the list
is not a reply to all.  Just adding my .02 (and, yes, I know this is a
u2-community topic).  I suspect the U2UG board is addressing this
issue.
Cheers!  --dawn

--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.

Take and give some delight today!
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[gerry-u2ug]

while I don't agree with the way it was put it do agree with the point
being made.

The few postings that I have made to the list since the changes took
effect, with the exception of todays, have almost exclusively been
replied to me directly rather than to the list.  I have then been
forwarding my responses to those replies to the list rather than the
senders directly.
I don't know about others - but I would rather not ever get a direct
reply - to me it completely defeats the point in having a mailing list.

Gerry



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: April 11, 2006 12:24
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?

Did we forget our meds today?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Lindsay
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:26 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?

 Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
*something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
people who can't filter whiners. 

My .02.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:21 AM
> To: gerry-u2ug; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?
> 
> Just a slow week.
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[robwills_u2list]

Yeah Sharyl, you've still some learning to do.

The list administrator is spending plenty of his own good time on our 
behalf and you shouldn't resort to calling him an idiot for a decision 
that was designed to save him some of it.  If you feel so strongly, why 
not offer to help?

Regards,

Rob Wills

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/04/2006 16:25:33:

>  Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
> feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
> myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
> *something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
> people who can't filter whiners. 
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Jerry Banker]

Did we forget our meds today?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyl Lindsay
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:26 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?

 Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
*something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
people who can't filter whiners. 

My .02.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:21 AM
> To: gerry-u2ug; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?
> 
> Just a slow week.
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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Horn, John]

> On Behalf Of > Sharyl Lindsay
> 
>  Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a 
> person, I feel the list has died a slow death. I've been 
> thinking of unsubscribing myself but I just can't bring 
> myself to lose the chance to stop learning
> *something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot 
> and the people who can't filter whiners. 

Don't hold back.  Tell us how you *really* feel.  ;-)

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RE: [U2] List dead ?

[Sharyl Lindsay]

 Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
*something* just  because I think the list admin is an idiot and the
people who can't filter whiners. 

My .02.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:21 AM
> To: gerry-u2ug; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] List dead ?
> 
> Just a slow week.
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Re: [U2] List dead ?

[John Cassidy]

Probably just a slow news week. Let me know if you fail to receive this
message. ;-)
 
John Cassidy
Unix Sys Admin
DCCCD

>>> "gerry-u2ug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/11/06 7:25 AM >>>

Hi ,
Its been 3 or 4 days since I've received anything from the list.
Is it dead ?
Or have I been magically unsubscribed again ?
Gerry
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