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*Date:* 8/9/2012 5:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
> If stopud just kills the Windows services (I don't know what it does), that
will not kill the phantoms.
> Each pid runs as a seperate Windows process and is not signalled when the
> main
services
e a login
as that user. In that users login script you put the phantoms you want to
start. So when that user logs in, the phantoms start.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett
To: U2 Users List
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
I hav
script you put the phantoms you want to
start. So when that user logs in, the phantoms start.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett
To: U2 Users List
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
I have no idea how that would be done. I use a
een implemented. :-(
Bill
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*From:* wjhon...@aol.com
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*Date:* 8/9/2012 9:40 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
You have to write a script that
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From: Bill Haskett
To: U2 Users List
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 9:33 am
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
As far as I know, Windows doesn't care about UniData. If the Volume
Shadow Copy service is running the backups cruise right through
everything. Now, to
t;
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* dwolv...@flash.net
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> *Date:* 8/9/2012 6:35 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
> > Has the issue on
ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:28 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
I would not envision having every active UniData process on the system close
all of their files when a dbpause command is run. Each process has it's o
hursday, August 09, 2012 9:06 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
WELL... in theory UniData has SOME control --
I mean, on Windows, there could be a dbpause 'flag' that tells UniData to close
all the open file handles on dbpause and reope
et
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*Date:* 8/9/2012 8:29 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
Hey -- this was a question I got though: Is there a way to make UniData
VSS/Shadow-Copy 'aware'?
Does that question come up to other people as they transition users to U2?
ent dance to
get backups to work. :-(
So, I guess I can say I do feel your pain! :-)
Bill
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*From:* dwolv...@flash.net
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*Date:* 8/9/2012 8:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpau
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
David:
I'm sure I don't have a complete understanding of your situation. I use
"dbp
You've restored from backups where files were locked during the backup?
-Original Message-
From: Bill Haskett
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Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
David:
I'm sure I don't have a complete unders
ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:06 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
David:
I'm sure I don't have a complete understanding of your situation. I use
"dbpause" all the time and run backups using Windo
ers-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:06 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
David:
I'm sure I don't have a complete understanding of your situation. I use
"dbpause" all the t
flash.net
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*Date:* 8/9/2012 6:35 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
Has the issue on Windows been resolved? Our customers reported that UniData
maintained 'open files' at a dbpause, which still made the backup difficult
with a dbpaus
users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:38 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
Dbpause doesn't close files. It blocks updates by UniData processes to
UniData files. This i
rsday, August 09, 2012 7:35 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
Has the issue on Windows been resolved? Our customers reported that UniData
maintained 'open files' at a dbpause, which still made the backup difficult
with a dbpaus
Behalf Of Wally Terhune
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:27 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
RFS with TP has been available in UniData for 15-20 years too.
I understand your issues. I'm just saying you do have the ability in UniData
to generate a co
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Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
RFS with TP has been available in UniData for 15-20 years too.
I understand your issues. I'm just saying you do have the ability in UniData to
generate a consistent backup (physical and logical) using
PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
That's the rub isn't it?
We have a few thousand programs written over 30 years, and only a limited
staff, and users always want more.
Users don't see the need to go back and *fix* code that&#
t issue. For a site that doesn't *have* to be 24-7 but can
be say 22-7, it's safer to shutdown, then backup.
You can't always control every piece of code someone has written.
-Original Message-
From: Wally Terhune
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Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 2:18 pm
Subject: Re:
ave a clean consistent copy.
-Original Message-
From: John Jenkins
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Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 6:02 am
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
"dbpause" and "dbresume" allow any background processes (e.g. PHANTOM or WebDE
(Re
copy.
-Original Message-
From: John Jenkins
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Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 6:02 am
Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
"dbpause" and "dbresume" allow any background processes (e.g. PHANTOM or
WebDE (Redback)) to continue running. You do n
"dbpause" and "dbresume" allow any background processes (e.g. PHANTOM or
WebDE (Redback)) to continue running. You do not have to have a restart
procedure.
Additionally, as long as your backup methodology is brief - a SAN "snap" or
a mirrored drive split - then anyone using Telnet, UniObjects or OD
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Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud
Are you certain that the dbpause finished? We've had cases here where
our backup scripts would hang on the dbpause command. Those cases were
not random however. They all happened after a "file syst
Are you certain that the dbpause finished? We've had cases here where
our backup scripts would hang on the dbpause command. Those cases were
not random however. They all happened after a "file system full" event.
When a file system is full and a UniData write occurs that results in a
file being
I don't think we've ever had a problem reported for dbresume not resuming the
database.
You can check the status with $UDTBIN/dbpause_status
Wally Terhune
Technical Support Engineer
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA
t: +1 720 475 8055 **e: wterh...@rock
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