Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I've scanned probably 10+ times. :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 12:27 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: 5.5.10 (and maybe 5.5.8?) for some reason shows like a cache of the results. We always have to

Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Airview need to be manually changed. - Original Message - From: Kees H To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity Are youtalking about site survey or airview? - Original Message -

Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Site Survey. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Are youtalking about site survey or airview? - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman

Re: [Ubnt_users] Weird site survey activity

2014-12-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
It has an odd cache issue sometimes. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 12/1/14, 11:22 AM, Kees H wrote: Are youtalking about site survey or airview? - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman

[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Haas
Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi? We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can shorten

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you have to use 5.8. For areas over -88 noise

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Great idea! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:44:43 AM Subject: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the

[Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
What is everyone using as surge arresters for your airFiber installs? ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't have any AFs, but I'm not sure why you'd go anywhere other than BeeHive for your surge arrestors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
From their website: Applications Installed at large colocation sites such as a NOC Prevent damage to the AP and the other NOC equipment Fail I lost more than I would have had I not had them in-line. Have never had a surge arrester perform the way theirs did, and I've never been

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Let me guess, it was a ToughSwitch...and you're blaming WB? We use 100 WB surge suppressors without problems but if one ToughSwitch blows up you blame WB =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Matt

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I remember that thread. I think the conclusion was the UBNT built the switch wrong. I've never heard of Chuck (or Forest for his associated products) ever not making it right with a customer, even if it meant a design change (for the better). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Matt Hoppes
Well, unfortunately, I wasn't able to get ahold of anyone at WBH... left e-mails, voicemails, etc. I would love to talk with someone there and get a straight answer as I love the form factor and the fact I can easily and quickly rack mount something like 24 SA but until I can get a straight

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Steve Barnes
That is a fabulous idea. Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 12:45 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 10:04, Matt Hoppes wrote: I'm the last person in the world to recommend a TS to anyone That said... have you ever had a WBH SA take a hit? If so, what, if anything did it also do to your switch ports? Shorting the switch port when the SA takes a hit doesn't seem like a wise

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 10:47, Josh Luthman wrote: Why? You should always use HV. On the non-GigE WB models like the 444 some people prefer a low clamping voltage on the data pairs not carrying POE voltage vs. the POE pairs which have a higher clamping voltage. I use the GigE HV because it's one part

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you configure or do anything with it at all? Or is it a dumb device where you pair it and you're options are done with. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jason Pond p...@grizzlyinternet.com wrote:

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Phil Curnutt
We have one at 12.5 miles and it reports Rx Capacity at 213 Mbps, but I don't know what that translate to reality. That is a 50 MHz channel width at 5800 MHz with signal levels around -65 and a noise level of about -92. We are having difficulty maintaining that 213, it wants to switch back and

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
This is a good idea! I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work... it's just a matter of getting somebody to make an app. It looks like there actually is a web browser that runs on the watches, so it might even be possible already, although I'm guessing that wouldn't be very usable.

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Any chance you can find two smaller channels and use it in full duplex? the nice thing about running the AF5 in full duplex is that the channels only need to be clean at the receive end... and if you don't need as much capacity one direction, you can use a smaller channel.

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Haas
That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete @ SAF to start looking at some licensed gear. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Robert Haas rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com To:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread eric-list
Sorry late to the discussion, but Pebble watches should be able to display JSON information easily. So you should be able to pull status.cgi and get the info. Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Contrary to popular belief, you do not need a surge suppressor to clamp so close to the 'normal' voltage on the line. Most well-designed products actually contain basic integral surge suppression. One of the most common questions I get is whether or not some of my products contain surge

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Is the watch doing the IP stuff or is the Pebble app doing all the hard work and pushing it out via Bluetooth? I think we're going to need something that can log in to the Ubnt radio or do SNMP and that should be easier if it's the latter. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [Ubnt_users] Will this crap never go away

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
Been there! On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Green wire…. 4 repairs last week and 1 already today. See the attached picture *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. ___ Ubnt_users mailing list

Re: [Ubnt_users] Will this crap never go away

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
Ya, I had one the other day :( On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Green wire 4 repairs last week and 1 already today. See the attached picture *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. ___

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
That's good to know. What about unlicensed since we know those vary greatly! On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Waste of time in the licensed world. They all perform as they advertise. Modulation * channel size = megabits per second. Price varies,

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 12:34, Josh Luthman wrote: Waste of time in the licensed world. They all perform as they advertise. Modulation * channel size = megabits per second. Price varies, GUI varies, support varies. Go SAF! It was my understanding that there would be no math. ~Seth

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
Is there a trick to getting iperf to work on AirFiber? On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: I usually just SSH to the client radio/far side, run iperf -s then go to one of my servers in the data center and run iperf -c (client IP) -P5 works better

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
iPerf is not included with airFiber as it isn't needed. What it tells you the channel capacity is is what the channel capacity is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
The graph at the bottom tells you the actual throughput. Might even say better than iperf. It sends null/zero bits to verify it can carry that much traffic. So when you get to throwing customer traffic through the link instead of zeros, you already know your limit. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
100 megabit switch between laptop and Airfiber? Is it linked at gig? Is your laptop's CPU maxed out? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:00 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It might be the capacity but

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
ToughSwitches on both ends on gigabit ports. I thought maybe laptop was maxed out until I ran IPerf from TS8 to TS8. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 100 megabit switch between laptop and Airfiber? Is it linked at gig? Is your laptop's CPU maxed

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Ty Featherling
You gave GOT to be shitting me! -Ty On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: Wha? Are you serious? On Dec 1, 2014 3:09 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only hosted in the

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
A 100 meg limit sounds like a 100 BaseT problem to me, but who knows! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Just wanted to confirm. Will have to chase the problem

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Us: We want a working AirControl for our Ubnt gear!!! Ubnt: Here is a solution to a problem you didn't have. Me: *facepalm* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Adair Winter

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Completely. It's on their forum now. There have only been one or two people on the forum that have supported that decision (or at least not gone against it). Everyone else I've talked to grabs the flame thrower. Now in order to use this flaming cloud of shit we must move a network to

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
Is this the new fools day? DECEMBER FOOLS! I see nothing on the ubnt site... buuut maybe mike knows something we don't? I just don't see how this can be true... Most people can't make a VPN work as it is how the hell am I supposed to depend on this to work if it's not INSIDE my network? On Mon,

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2ion=1espv=2es_th=1ie=UTF-8q=ubiquiti%20aircrm http://community.ubnt.com/t5/Ubiquiti-Announcements-and-News/Announcing-airCRM-The-Ultimate-ISP-Management-Platform/bc-p/1118042 https://aircrm.ubnt.com/#/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 13:20, Adair Winter wrote: I just don't see how this can be true... Most people can't make a VPN work as it is how the hell am I supposed to depend on this to work if it's not INSIDE my network? Why aren't all of your radios open to the internet? You're obviously doing it wrong.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
I know but I actually get a touch above 100 - like 104-106... On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: A 100 meg limit sounds like a 100 BaseT problem to me, but who knows! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Toughswitches are fundamentally broken and we have been pulling them off our network. If you need more info, there's like a 25 page thread on the Ubiquiti forum. Also, you can't use them to generate much traffic as everything will be done by the management cpu/interface, which is 100Mb.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Are TS software or hardware switched? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I know but I actually get a touch above 100 - like 104-106... On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:14

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Weare as well josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 12/1/14, 13:16, Josh Luthman wrote: Us: We want a working AirControl for our Ubnt gear!!! Ubnt: Here is a solution to a problem you didn't have. I'm

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
Confirmed. I just ran IPerf from one TS8 to another TS8 and just get around 100MBps! I'm going to move them to a tower with less traffic then. Now what do I use for a higher capacity switch? I hate to put a high dollar switch in a rough environment. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
Not sure Josh but I'd love to know! On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are TS software or hardware switched? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:29 PM,

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
No, IPerf directly on the TS8. That was after running speedtests from laptop. I could go back to the tower and run IPerf on the laptop to a server at my NOC? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Are you doing MT BW Tests? Might be maxing out the CPU on the

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Ubnt is about raising attention and getting their stock price up. I mean how hard can it be to combine 5.5.10 plus SNMP that's in 5.6 beta. You literally have to choose between 5.1 band or SNMP right now. I'm no software developer but this can't be that difficult! Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Will this crap never go away

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Lyon
I never deployed it :) But I see it when I take over my competitor's customers! -Mike On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Green wire…. 4 repairs last week and 1 already today. See the attached picture *Steven Barnes* GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
Ya, they handle it very well. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You have a rough environment and put in a Ubnt TS8... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
I think you're misunderstanding a bit, you don't want the switch to generate traffic, that's not the problem.You want to test on devices on the other ends (connected to) the switch that pass through the link, something like an x86 pc or ccr or even edgerouter/pro that can generate lots of

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
don't do that. run a test THROUGH the switch. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: No, IPerf directly on the TS8. That was after running speedtests from laptop. I could go back to the tower and run IPerf on the laptop to a server at my NOC? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
I'm excited. these are kick ass switches. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Chris will be making 8 and 12 port versions, also DC SWITCHES :) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 12:46 PM, RickG

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
So, running IPerf on the switches at each end of the AirFiber is a bad idea? I figured its the closed devices to the AF. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I think you're misunderstanding a bit, you don't want the switch to generate traffic, that's not

Re: [Ubnt_users] Licensed Backhauls [WAS] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
There are no G2's with an internal antenna. You either use 18, 24, 36, 48 or bigger antennas depending on the required reliability and distance. I have a 13 mile 11Ghz link that drops is heavy rain. like 2+ hour rain. but it's only happened once and it was along the ENTIRE path. If you want to

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Can I use them outside of Washington? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:48:43 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Licensed Backhauls [WAS] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread RickG
That's the other thing, how do you decide which frequency? Also, how difficult was it to obtain the license? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: There are no G2's with an internal antenna. You either use 18, 24, 36, 48 or bigger antennas depending on

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
iPerf is iPerf, but the CPU in a laptop is magnificently more powerful than the CPU in a network appliance. It just doesn't have the nuts to do that much data. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: RickG

Re: [Ubnt_users] Licensed Backhauls [WAS] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Kevin Lamothe
We have a long haul microwave network built with SAF Luminas and using 6 foot Andrew's dishes. Each site is about 35-45km away from each other, all connected at around -40 or so. I've seen it drop down to about -60 once during a really heavy rain. This is 11GHz. On 12/1/2014 4:55 PM, Adair

Re: [Ubnt_users] Speed test no working

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
It doesn't matter, the CPU can't generate that much traffic. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 12:58 PM, RickG wrote: To be clear, I am not using the TS8 management interface. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Mathew Howard

Re: [Ubnt_users] Licensed Backhauls [WAS] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Engineering decides the frequency. Lower frequencies go further than higher ones. Different bands have different channel sizes. Seriously, just go to a set of vendors and say, X distance, Y speed, Z reliability. They'll ask for you exact coordinates and heights... then give you the quote.

Re: [Ubnt_users] Licensed Backhauls [WAS] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Also, take a look at Cambium's LinkPlanner for some playing around to learn a bit about how things work. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Haas
We already use SAF Lumina’s which I’ve had good luck with. A plus would be if we can use the same band radio to minimize on the shelf spares. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:02 PM To:

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
If you're using SAF, then keep using them unless you have a reason to change for the exact reasons you specify. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Robert Haas rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
5.6 beta 5 actually does support the 5.1 band. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman [j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:42 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
If there is a web browser that runs on watches that is all you need. I already check the signals for an install on my smart phone. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd like to free that hand if possible Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 6:44 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: If there is a web browser that runs on watches that is all you need. I already check the signals

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group. Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
I hear ya. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch I'd like to free that hand if possible Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
That doesn't surprise me at all :/ josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 03:14 PM, Kees H wrote: It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group. Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for. - Original

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
They have my e-mail address. They have the e-mail addresses for all of us at The Brothers WISP. It's not like we're idiots. We'll gladly tell them what we want and what they should\shouldn't do. They haven't taken us up on that offer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote: Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my radios? Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses? But it's CLOUD. ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Oh and their cloud solution does not need to be hacked. What about a disgruntled ubnt employee changing all the ssid's, logins and passwords of all the connected cloud solution radios. Do I hear Taps playing? Most ISPs in general like our management network to stay... private. These are

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Yup.. That is what those actresses said. My pictures are safe in the cloud after all it is the CLOUD. On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote: Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my radios? Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses? But it's

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
There is a browser for Android Wear... which seems to be what most of the watches are running. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appfour.wearbrowserhl=en From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Luthman

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Bryan Robinson
But, UBNT said the their cloud is safe and no one can hack the cloud... They also said DFS is coming to NBeams soon Why won't you believe ??? Bryan Robinson -Original Message- From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent:

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
*shrug* Because they did josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 12:36 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: That looks like it would be a great solution for a wisp with, oh say, 50 customers and no intention of growing... That looks really terrible. Why

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 13:35, Mike Hammett wrote: I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly. But are we really their target market? ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Ruschmann
There were several of us in the Alpha that told em it's a bad idea. They wouldn't even acknowledge the fact we didn't want it. Al requests for a local versions were ignored and not responded too. My theory is Data Mining for investor relations. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Because they listened to the people on their forum That looks like it would be a great solution for a wisp with, oh say, 50 customers and no intention of growing... That looks really terrible. Why would they think that was a good idea?

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
elaborate please. But are we really their target market? ~Seth ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
No one in the SU group or the pre-SU group did either. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 04:18 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote: Noone on the forum asked for this. *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Heck they just have to hack it. Who needs to ask politely anymore these days? - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl I wonder if it's possible for the FCC to come

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 6:14 PM, Tom Fadgen wrote: I am sure glad that I own my business; and that said, as a business owner I look to make choices from those available; not cry over what is not! One thing is going to solve this problem, the one with UBNT not listing to their customers and providing a lot

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Well said Tom! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 1, 2014 9:15 PM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote: I am sure glad that I own my business; and that said, as a business owner I look to make choices from those available;

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Excellent write-up. I feel UBNT has kind of lost their way in certain areas. I don't understand mFi at all. UBNT-Vision (aircam stuff) is kind of a messstill. ToughSwitch debacle, green cable (tough lesson for us/them to learn), etc. AF24 is great. AF5 is... can be great in the right

[Ubnt_users] RM5 V5.5.10

2014-12-01 Thread Kees H
Any reason, I can't seem to hard code 5300DFS in a RM5 v.5.5.10? (Actually several of the upper channel DFS) It goes to another frequency set in the frequency list. If I disable the frequency list, it still goes to another frequency. Now the RM5 in question is a backup AP ptp link and is not

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection to the cloud. (to be fair) josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your

Re: [Ubnt_users] RM5 V5.5.10

2014-12-01 Thread Jason Bailey
Were you sure DFS was enabled on that radio prior to the upgrade? Downgrade to 5.5.8 and see if there is a enable uni-2 checkbox on the system tab. If thats not checked prior to upgrade,it won't do lower frequencies. On Monday, December 1, 2014 9:57 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Robert Andrews
Ok, but when the device contacts the cloud why can't the cloud at that point start the update? I'm not really familiar with the product but what is the frequency of the cloud to ground discharge ( or the other way around )... On 12/1/14 7:10 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: The cloud doesn't

Re: [Ubnt_users] RM5 V5.5.10

2014-12-01 Thread Adair Winter
Enable logging and see if it's taking DFS hits. if so the radio will jump to a non-dfs freq no matter what. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote: Any reason, I can't seem to hard code 5300DFS in a RM5 v.5.5.10? (Actually several of the upper channel DFS) It

Re: [Ubnt_users] Scrap the Unifi Phones - I want a signal readout on my watch

2014-12-01 Thread Jason Pond
It is a dumb device. You should be able to write an app that you start onsite and then it sends information to the watch Every second. Sincerely, Jason Pond Grizzly Internet, Inc. On Monday, December 1, 2014, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can you configure or do anything

Re: [Ubnt_users] RM5 V5.5.10

2014-12-01 Thread Tim Kerns
what are your channel size? I saw this with 40 meg channels It would not let a DFS and non-DFS overlap From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:38 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] RM5 V5.5.10 Do a site survey. See if 5.3 frequencies are listed. If not, and

Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Ruschmann
It's a command and control network, similar to bot networks. The CPE's will do whatever the cloud tells them to do upon check in. If they want to create a reverse tunnel back to them, they will, and at that point, they might as well be owned. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Chuck Breitkreutz