RE: Is the Unicode Standard "The foundation for all modern software and communications around the world"?

2019-11-19 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
everything (good things and not so good too). Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of James Kass via Unicode Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:03 PM To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Is the Unicode Standard

RE: The Unicode Standard and ISO

2018-06-11 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
in the text. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: William_J_G Overington [mailto:wjgo_10...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 6:33 PM To: verd...@wanadoo.fr; Jonathan Rosenne; asm...@ix.netcom.com; Steven R. Loomis; jameskass...@gmail.com; charupd...@orange.fr

RE: The Unicode Standard and ISO

2018-06-09 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
Translated error messages are a horror story. Often I have to play around with my locale settings to avoid them. Using computer translation on programming error messages is no way near to being useful. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf

RE: Popular wordprocessors treating U+00A0 as fixed-width

2018-01-01 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
May we all please keep this discussion civil. People, being human, may sometimes make mistakes, but that does not necessarily justify calling them names. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy via Unicode Sent: Monday

RE: Aquaφοβία

2017-12-11 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
. And of course there is https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99%D7%AA Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne From: rooz...@google.com [mailto:rooz...@google.com] On Behalf Of Roozbeh Pournader Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 9:07 PM To: Jonathan Rosenne Cc

RE: Aquaφοβία

2017-12-09 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
%D7%A8)/%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%95%D7%90. A manuscript: http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Hebrew/digitallibrary/pages/viewer.aspx?presentorid=MANUSCRIPTS=PNX_MANUSCRIPTS43324-1#|FL36876376 Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne

RE: Tilde (was: Unicode education in UK Schools)

2017-07-08 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
Hello, To be precise, this is the COMBINING TILDE not the character TILDE (U+007E). Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Otto Stolz via Unicode Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:33 PM To: unicode@unicode.org

RE: Unicode vs. Unikod

2017-04-10 Thread Jonathan Rosenne via Unicode
Regarding http://unicode.org/standard/UnicodeTranscriptions.html the Hebrew (pointed) is wrong, the Holam point should be above the Vav. Attached are a word and pdf documents that appear correct on my computer, and a png. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode

RE: Encoding of old compatibility characters

2017-03-27 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
GROUP MARK Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Fr?d?ric Grosshans Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:05 AM To: unicode Subject: Re: Encoding of old compatibility characters Another example, about to be encoded

RE: Translations of city names

2017-03-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
P.S. The US database does a good job on Copenhagen. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Jonathan Rosenne Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 10:06 PM To: 'Ken Whistler'; Frédéric Grosshans Cc: unicode@unicode.org; 'navneforskn...@hum.ku.dk' Subject: RE: Translations

RE: Translations of city names

2017-03-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
FWIW, I looked up Copenhagen in the Danish list and received "Søgning gav ikke noget resultat" which means literally "Search produced no result" (I do know that in Danish it is København). Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode

RE: The Hebrew Extended (Proposed) Block

2016-05-13 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Rashi is a font, not a script. It has a one-to-one correspondence with standard Hebrew. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne 054-4246522 -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Michael Everson Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:59 PM To: unicode

RE: Unicode in passwords

2015-09-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
For languages such as Java, passwords should be handled as byte arrays rather than strings. This may make it difficult to apply normalization. Jonathan Rosenne From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Clark S. Cox III Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 2:16 AM

RE: FYI: The world’s languages, in 7 maps and charts

2015-05-13 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
, Ukrainian, Yiddish, Ladino, Tagalog, most European languages, and various African and East Asian languages used by the large number of refugees from Africa and foreign workers from East Asia. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne 054-4246522 -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun

RE: Avoidance variants

2015-03-25 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
“It's still a HEH, it just looks like another letter, right?” Wrong. It’s a QOF. Just like the p in receipt is a p. Unicode should not concern itself with the reasons words are spelt the way they are spelt. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun

RE: Bidi reordering of soft hyphen

2014-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Some papers are indeed doing this sporadically. It looks like it is up to the individual writer. The samples I see are barely readable, incorrect and unprofessional any way you look at them, and seem to derive from the use of inappropriate software. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original

RE: Bidi reordering of soft hyphen

2014-04-01 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
The use of soft hyphen is a cultural matter. In Hebrew, Classic and Israeli, soft hyphens are not used. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne 054-4246522 -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Simon Montagu Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:41 AM

RE: Bidi reordering of soft hyphen

2014-04-01 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
environment that cares about soft hyphens. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Asmus Freytag [mailto:asm...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:39 AM To: Jonathan Rosenne; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Bidi reordering of soft hyphen On 4/1/2014 4:12

RE: Hebrew Extended Block(s)

2014-02-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
May I suggest a correction: We're not going to add a rake of pre-composed characters though. Best Regards, Jonathan Rosenne -Original Message- From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Michael Everson Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:56 PM To: unicode Unicode

RE: Engmagate?

2013-12-13 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
All this just endorses Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language Best regards, Jonathan (Jony) Rosenne -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Denis Jacquerye Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:33 AM To:

RE: Odd Unicode Charset

2013-11-16 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Does anyone know whether charset=unicode is at all normal these days? Without specific reference to the specific character set, you would be surprised at the quantity of material out there encoded in any number of encodings and character sets. It is not productive to cease supporting any charset

RE: More additional Greek (and Hebrew) characters needed for proposal

2013-09-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Dear Robert, As Mark has answered, there is no need nor justification to add pre-composed letters to Unicode, neither for Hebrew nor for any other language. Additionally, could you please use the Unicode agreed names in future communications, rather than private inventions. It makes

RE: writing in an alphabet with fewer letters: letter replacements

2013-07-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Google is your friend – some clues: http://www.forbes.com/profile/johanna-sigurdardottir/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Althingi Jony From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Stiller Sent: יום ו 05 יולי 2013 11:25 To:

RE: writing in an alphabet with fewer letters: letter replacements

2013-07-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Hi Stephan, Tell me about it. The official transliteration for Hebrew to the Latin script is obsolete, and the situation in this country is a mess. Best regards, Jonathan (Jony) Rosenne From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Stephan

RE: writing in an alphabet with fewer letters: letter replacements

2013-07-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
The official transliteration for Hebrew to the Latin script was in my opinion is based on German. Thus ו was w etc. It was revised in 2011 but the revised version is not in common use. Kahn would normally be קאהן. Here is a press article about it (in Hebrew):

RE: writing in an alphabet with fewer letters: letter replacements

2013-07-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Latin and Cyrillic? That's it? Best regards, Jonathan (Jony) Rosenne -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Richard Wordingham Sent: יום ו 05 יולי 2013 22:49 To: Unicode Public Subject: Re: writing in an alphabet with fewer

RE: Character set cluelessness

2012-10-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I don't agree with the criticism. These place name are there to be readable by a wide audience, rather than writable by locals and specialists. They require the lowest common denominator. Jony From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of john knightley

RE: Hebrew with Arabic-like pointing

2012-09-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
It is the Arabic original of The Guide for the Perplexed of Maimonides, in Hebrew letters. The reference says The Guide for the Perplexed : The Arabic original as published by Shelomo Ben-Eli'ezer Munk: with alternative versions, indexes and sections handwritten by the Rambam, Rabbi Moshe Ben

RE: Searching data: map countries to scripts

2012-08-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I can state that for Israel the scripts in common use are Hebrew, Latin (mainly for English but also for several other languages), Arabic and Cyrillic. Best Regards, Jony Rosenne -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of

RE: Searching data: map countries to scripts

2012-08-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Wheelock Cc: Jonathan Rosenne; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: Searching data: map countries to scripts Robert Wheelock, Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:56:26 -0400: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Rosenne wrote: I can state that for Israel the scripts in common use are Hebrew, Latin

RE: Yiddish digraphs

2011-10-19 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I guess the situation is somewhat similar to the ff ligature or the German double s (ß): One cannot always tell just by looking at the text whether the two Vavs or two Yods are part of a double Vav or double Yod ligature or just happen to be next to each other. Jony -Original

RE: RTL PUA?

2011-08-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I don't buy the assumption that all the world is either AAT, Graphite or Uniscribe. Anyhow, this discussion is going off topic, the issue is should Unicode specify an RTL PUA area, not whether some products, however respectable, provide a bypass. Jony -Original Message- From:

RE: RTL PUA?

2011-08-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Several RTL scripts do not require shaping nor ligatures. Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:29 AM To: Michael Everson Cc: unicore UnicoRe Discussion; Unicode

RE: 8 bits preference?

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Because it is the most convenient byte size, considering that computers are binary. I did once, in 1963, work on a computer with a byte size of 15, but I don't think it was very convenient for textual data. We packed two 6 bit BCD characters in each byte. Before that I worked on a computer

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Why does one require implementation laws to define a code point in Unicode for a new currency symbol? And what does it have to do with ISCII or keyboard layouts or usage or non-usage by people within India or abroad? One cannot make too many assumptions regarding usage. For example,

RE: Indian Rupee Sign (U+20B9) proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I had thought that the glyphs were not part of the UNICODE or ISO 10646 standards and only serve as a reference. See the Disclaimer in http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch17.pdf. Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On

RE: Latin Script

2010-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Stolz otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de, Jonathan Rosenne j...@qsm.co.il Actually, if I do not see letters/symbols along with names, in some cases I cannot recognize. I am not a typographer either. So like Edward - Close, but not quite. Consider LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI (?) it would be great

RE: Latin Script

2010-06-07 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
How about A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z ? There are also some extensions, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet for general background. Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Tulasi Sent:

Octal

2010-06-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
When I started using computers we used octal, so I suggest new characters for the octal digits 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. BTW, octal has all the benefits claimed for hexadecimal with the advantage that it is much simpler. Jony From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org

RE: Hexadecimal digits

2010-06-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
The classic: Time flies like an arrow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_language_processing Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of John Dlugosz Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:18 PM To: Luke-Jr;

RE: Greek letter LAMDA?

2010-06-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Although this mail was not addressed to me, I did read it. Sue me. Jony -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of John Dlugosz Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:03 PM Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: RE: Greek letter LAMDA?

RE: IS UNICODE a STANDRAD

2010-06-01 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth Genesis 8 21 From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of V. M. Kumaraswamy Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:51 PM To: mpsuz...@hiroshima-u.ac.jp Cc: unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: IS UNICODE

RE: [OT] Automatic vowelizers?

2002-03-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
There is Nakdan, http://www.cet.ac.il/home/nakdan.htm Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marco Cimarosti Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Automatic vowelizers? I

RE: Re[2]: Month names (was: Re: Standard Conventions and euro)

2002-03-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
In Hebrew the names of the days of the week are ordinals for Sunday (first) to Friday (sixth). European umbers are not used, but Hebrew (Alef to Vav) are. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Serge Nesterovitch Sent: Monday, March

RE: Initials

2002-02-25 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Title: äåãòä In Hebrew, groups of initials are normally pronounced. Jony -Original Message-From: Wm Se?n Glen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:32 PMTo: Jonathan Rosenne; 'Vladimir Ivanov'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Initials

RE: Initials

2002-02-25 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
No. this is Gimatria, the Hebrew numbering system, actually an ancient Greek invention. It is commonly used for dates, lists, chapter numbers etc. . See http://www.qsm.co.il/Hebrew/Gimatria.htm Jony -Original Message- From: Marco Cimarosti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday,

RE: Initials

2002-02-24 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Title: äåãòä Hebrew: There are two conventions: 1. "European". The initial is followed by a period and a space. 2. Hebrew. A single initial is followed by a Geresh (05F3), a group of initials is marked with a Gershayim (05F4) before the last letter. By the way, these marks are not

Security

2002-02-11 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I get the impression that the so called Unicode security issues have nothing in particular to do with Unicode, and that this Unicode-unrelated discussion would be better off if it were held in a security discussion list. Jony

RE: Unicode and Security

2002-02-05 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't see why pick on bidi. Unicode rendering is not reversible in Latin too - from the rendering you cannot and should not be able to tell whether a character was decomposed or precomposed. Looking at some text, you would not be able to tell

RE: U+05C4

2002-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I think it is both. The upper dot has been used in Hebrew for a number of purposes. The exact shape does not matter. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: Compelling Unicode demo

2001-11-16 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Netscape 6.1 does the Hebrew correctly, but I think the Arabic is bad. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tex Texin Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:51 AM To: Unicoders Subject: Re: Compelling Unicode demo The page has

RE: [OT] o-circumflex

2001-09-08 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
This is not always the right thing to do. For example, with personal names the person involved may decide whether he prefers the old (AA) spelling or the new Å. In any case they are equivalent. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

RE: RECOMMENDATIONs( Term Asian is not used properly on Computers and NET)

2001-05-31 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
If we mean CJK why can't we say CJK? Jony

RE: Keyboard terminology

2001-05-12 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Keyboard terminology At 11:59 PM +0300 5/10/01, Jonathan Rosenne wrote: With Windows in many cases it is definitely a language. Microsoft distinguishes clearly between different keyboard layouts and locales for the same language. You select which keyboard languages you

RE: Keyboard terminology (was RE: Unicode editing)

2001-05-10 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
With Windows in many cases it is definitely a language. You select which keyboard languages you want, and you switch them either with the mouse or with Alt-Shift. The system already knows which keyboard layout you have - 101 in my case - and offers several choices. In Israel, the normal choice

RE: Unicode editing

2001-04-26 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
-Original Message- From: Marco Cimarosti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:55 PM Matitiahu Allouche (Mati) has prepared a document Guidelines of a Logical User Interface for Editing Bidirectional Text. It is being discussed at the SII. With his

Re: Unicode editing

2001-04-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Matitiahu Allouche (Mati) has prepared a document "Guidelines of a Logical User Interface for Editing Bidirectional Text". It is being discussed at the SII. With his kind permission, I have placed it at http://www.qsm.co.il/Hebrew/logicUI22.htm Comments are welcome. Jony

RE: Unicode Bidi algorithm dissention (was: something else entirely)

2001-04-15 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
There are various MS implementations. Internet Explorer 5, Windows 2000 and Word 2000 are intended to be without deviations, but older versions, such as Windows 95 and Word 97 have deviations. For Hebrew, the most well known concerns the Hyphen-Minus. I believe I have heard there are some

RE: Unicode complaints

2001-03-15 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
There is a certain amount of dissatisfaction with Unicode bidi among Hebrew users in Israel. Fortunately for Unicode, the general public calls the Unicode bidi algorithm "Microsoft Hebrew" and blame them. Jony -Original Message- From: Roozbeh Pournader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

RE: Final letters in Hebrew and Arabic

2001-03-12 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Final letters in Hebrew and Arabic James Agenbroad recently said: On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Jonathan Rosenne wrote: Regarding Hebrew: -Original Message- From: Nick NICHOLAS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:12 PM

RE: Final letters in Hebrew and Arabic

2001-03-10 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Regarding Hebrew: -Original Message- From: Nick NICHOLAS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:12 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Nick NICHOLAS Subject: Final letters in Hebrew and Arabic Many thanks to all who responded on the Albanian alphabet. No script too

RE: Hebrew shaping (was RE: Benefits of Unicode)

2001-02-26 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
the proper form. The same problem in Greek and Hebrew has been addressed using different code points for final and non-final letters, that must be allocated to separate entries on the keyboard. Jonathan Rosenne replied: Arabic and Hebrew are misleadingly similar in this respect. While

RE: Hebrew (was RE: Unicode Transcriptions)

2001-02-19 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
IE for MAC does not include bidi. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:46 PM To: Unicode List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hebrew (was RE: Unicode Transcriptions) On 02/15/2001 10:49:00 AM ROBERT

RE: [ OT ] ISO 10646-x and Unicode 3.0 and Hebrew ?

2001-02-02 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I think ISO does not specify the bidi algorithm. Jony -Original Message- From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:21 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Unicode List Subject: Re: [ OT ] ISO 10646-x and Unicode 3.0 and Hebrew ? Elaine Keown wrote:

RE: Benefits of Unicode

2001-01-29 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Arabic and Hebrew are misleadingly similar in this respect. While Arabic shaping is rather regular, Hebrew has too many exceptions, making automatic shaping unsuitable. Jony -Original Message- From: Marco Cimarosti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:10 PM

RE: anyone recognise this?

2001-01-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Demotic? Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:34 PM To: Unicode List Subject: anyone recognise this? Does anybody recognise the script in the attached sample.gif? (See attached file: sample.gif)

RE: Order of bidi script numbers in ranges

2001-01-20 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Actually it is not well defined for Hebrew. It came to court a few years ago over a notice that said : "parking forbidden 8-9". The police claimed it was from 8 to 9, but the driver claimed he thought it meant from 9 to 8. The court decided it was ambiguous. I would say that in Hebrew best

RE: [ very OT ] why abjad ..? ; list--Arabic script languages

2001-01-15 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I think that the Turkmen languages in China are also written in the Arabic script. I vaguely remember Kazakh. Jony -Original Message- From: Elaine Keown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:34 PM To: Unicode List Subject: [ very OT ] why abjad ..? ;

RE: Hebrew final kaf issues

2001-01-06 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
P.S. You may want to look at http://www.linguistsoftware.com/lheb.htm Jony This is entirely a font issue, not currently related to the presentation forms. Unicode, in principle, codes characters rather than glyphs. See http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr17/#Characters%20vs.%20Glyphs The

Israeli HTML Specification

2000-12-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I have translated and annotated the Israeli HTML specification. Better late than never. It may be found at http://www.qsm.co.il/Hebrew/si4281e.htm Jony

RE: List style type names

2000-12-15 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
It's missing in CSS2, although many similar numbering systems were included. It should be brought to the attention of the CSS3 authors. Jony -Original Message- From: Roozbeh Pournader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:04 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Unicode

RE: (bidi) Determining whether Locales are left-to-right

2000-12-07 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Localized Hebrew Excel has a button to flip the global direction of the screen and presentation of the columns - RTL or LTR - and this preference is also stored in the file. The user can choose his default. It should not be determined from the locale, when I open a new spreadsheet the

RE: List style type names

2000-11-24 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
It's missing in CSS2, although many similar numbering systems were included. It should be brought to the attention of the CSS3 authors. Jony -Original Message- From: Roozbeh Pournader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:04 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Unicode

RE: Characters in early sets

2000-11-17 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
The BCDIC Delta was normally a non-printing sign, that is the Delta sign was used to represent an invisible, unprintable bit (or punch card hole) combination. See http://www.qsm.co.il/Hebrew/HebKey.htm - unfortunately it is in Hebrew. The characters on the right in red are cannot be printed on

RE: History of Kazakh characters in Unicode

2000-11-15 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I remember being shown in the ECMA bidi WG a document from China that specified the use of the Arabic script for Kazakh (I think it was Kazakh), which was somewhat different from ISO-8859-6 and ASMO. I remember they had fewer shapes. Jony -Original Message- From: Michael (michka)

RE: [idn] nameprep forbidden characters

2000-09-27 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
See my comments inline. Jony -Original Message- From: Mark Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:40 PM To: Jonathan Rosenne Cc: Unicode List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Edmon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [idn] nameprep forbidden characters I'm

RE: [idn] nameprep forbidden characters

2000-09-27 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
See my comments inline. Jony -Original Message- From: Mark Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:40 PM To: Jonathan Rosenne Cc: Unicode List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Edmon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [idn] nameprep forbidden characters I'm

RE: Character properties

2000-09-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
In this list at least, all languages and all scripts are equal. I find the term "foreign" and the attitude it conveys inappropriate. Let me note, for the record, that from my personal objective point of view everything that is not Hebrew is foreign. Jony -Original Message- From:

RE: [idn] nameprep forbidden characters

2000-09-17 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
did take the trouble to type in the points, that there would be a reason for their making such a distinction. I'd appreciate it if you could help me to understand the issue more clearly. Mark Jonathan Rosenne wrote: We should distinguish "punctuation", like 060C Ar

RE: Armenian numbers

2000-09-04 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
See http://people.netscape.com/ftang/i18n.html#number Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:56 PM To: Unicode List Subject: RE: Armenian numbers Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: Is anyone here familiar with

RE: FW: Date Controls

2000-08-18 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
The Israeli locale has the Gregorian date and time is in hours, minutes and seconds. Israeli Standard SI 1748. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:32 PM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: FW: Date Controls

RE: Unicode in VFAT file system

2000-07-22 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I apologize. Jony -Original Message- From: Becker [mailto:Becker] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:34 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Myself Subject: RE: Unicode in VFAT file system Jony Rosenne, who has been a great contributor since or before the beginning, wrote in an off moment:

RE: Unicode in VFAT file system

2000-07-21 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Unicode is the code, which is based on 16 bit chunks of ether or whatever, and UTF-8 is a biased transformation format designed to save American and Western Europeans storage space and to give some people a warm feeling by keeping Unicode in the familiar 8 bit world. Jony -Original

RE: Unicode FAQ addendum

2000-07-20 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
How about: 2) Byte order is only an issue in I/O. Jony -Original Message- From: Elliotte Rusty Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:19 PM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: Unicode FAQ addendum At 8:00 AM -0800 7/19/00, John Cowan wrote: The

RE: [idn] Preparation of Internationalized Host Names - Arabic

2000-07-08 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I did not mention Arabic vowels and Shadda because I don't feel qualified to. Jony -Original Message- From: Paul Hoffman / IMC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 8:06 PM To: Jonathan Rosenne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [idn] Preparation

RE: Bidi Examples of math, going right to left

2000-06-28 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
I had been told that in Egypt math is right to left, at least in school books. I have no first hand knowledge. Jony -Original Message- From: Roozbeh Pournader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:40 PM To: Unicode List Cc: Unicode List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]