Re: Multiple Directions (was: Re: Coptic/Greek (Re: Phoenician))

2004-05-17 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: > Thus, if "tb-lr" were supported, your browser would display the > following HTML line as vertical Mongolian with embedded Ogham reading > top-to-bottom, but in a plain text editor, the Mongolian and Ogham > would both read LTR, and everyone would be happy : I don't know

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-17 Thread John Cowan
using that with the KATAKANA-HIRAGANA > PROLONGED SOUND MARK? Not sure, but I had understood that bopomofo i (which is just one stroke) was rotated when vertical. -- My corporate data's a mess! John Cowan It's all semi-structured, no less.

Re: ISO-15924 script nodes and UAX#24 script IDs

2004-05-18 Thread John Cowan
d not hesitate in his 1821 poem about Don Juan (Tenorio, that is) to rhyme the hero's name with "new one" and "true one" in the very first stanza, showing that the pronunciation [EMAIL PROTECTED] was normal in his time. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-18 Thread John Cowan
, depending on which way the glyphs are rotated. -- But you, Wormtongue, you have done what you could for your true master. Some reward you have earned at least. Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains. I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-19 Thread John Cowan
ion of lr-Latin is BTT, but any Han included will automatically be read TTB, corrupting it. *sigh* One of my favorite lines in the Unicode Standard reads: "There simply is no traditional Japanese method of typesetting Devanagari." -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [

Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-19 Thread John Cowan
Andrew C. West scripsit: > The only thing that is certain is that Ogham must be rendered BTT in > vertical contexts. For Ogham text in isolation this is fairly easy to > accomplish by simple rotation, and one could expect "writing-mode > : bt-rl" or "writing-mode : bt-lr" to accomplish this in a C

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-20 Thread John Cowan
: Dost thou call me fool, boy? John Cowan FOOL: All thy other titles http://www.ccil.org/~cowan thou hast given away: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That thou wast born with. http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: ISO 15924 draft fixes

2004-05-21 Thread John Cowan
enever I see "Langues'O", my mind insists on correcting it into "Langues d'O", as in "Histoire d'O". Not that I read French. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.reutershealth.com "Not to know The Smiths is not to know K.X.U." --K.X.U.

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
y. It's obviously a font variant of Latin. -- Business before pleasure, if not too bloomering long before. --Nicholas van Rijn John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Response to Everson Phoenician and why June 7?

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
y do not wish to pay, at least without some assistance from Unicode. Hence my desire to have Phoenician and Hebrew collate together at the first level (more for searching than for sorting). -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Penguin shall hunt and devour al

Re: VISCII (was: Re: [BULK] - Re: MCW encoding of Hebrew)

2004-05-24 Thread John Cowan
a scheme layered on top of ASCII? And what is KOI-7? -- "Clear? Huh! Why a four-year-old childJohn Cowan could understand this report. Run out [EMAIL PROTECTED] and find me a four-year-old child. I http://www.ccil.org/~cowan can't make head or tail out

Re: VISCII (was: Re: [BULK] - Re: MCW encoding of Hebrew)

2004-05-25 Thread John Cowan
were encoded in the ranges where ASCII has Latin > letters (capital and small respectively). Ah. And on what principle do you distinguish them? The IETF clearly treats them both as charsets, within its definitions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan &quo

Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols

2004-05-25 Thread John Cowan
th court card in each suit is called the Knight in English; these should also be encoded. This would call for 25 more cards. Documentation on the Tarot is extensive and readily available. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis the Linux rebellion

Re: Character Foldings

2004-05-26 Thread John Cowan
Mark Davis scripsit: > >LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE => O + / That road quickly takes you to RFC 1345; I have some code for cracking 1345's format, and I should be able to prepare a mapping table fairly soon. -- My confusion is rapidly waxing John Cowan For XM

Re: Phoenician, Fraktur etc

2004-05-27 Thread John Cowan
e: first Hebrew with PH script, then Aramaic with Square script; finally the Jews wind up with the law in Square Hebrew and the Samaritans with the law in Aramaic using PH script. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] "'My young friend, if you do not n

Re: [BULK] - Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-27 Thread John Cowan
required vertical one (BTT). As things now stand, Ogham must be wrapped in RLO...PDF brackets when mixed with vertical Han or Mongolian. -- One art / There is John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No less / No more http://www.reutershealth.com All

An annoying ambiguity about which nothing can be done now

2004-05-28 Thread John Cowan
Y) or else that it extends over two characters (DOUBLE BREVE, DOUBLE MACRON, DOUBLE MACRON BELOW, DOUBLE TILDE, DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE, DOUBLE RIGHTWARDS ARROW BELOW). Of coure MUSICAL SYMBOL COMBINING DOUBLE TONGUE is something else again. Thank you. I feel much better now. -- John Cowan ww

Re: [BULK] - Re: Vertical BIDI

2004-05-28 Thread John Cowan
ntation of Ogham has to have knowledge of what overall directionality it is going to be imbedded in. Both are Bad Things. -- There are three kinds of people in the world: John Cowan those who can count,http://www.reutershealth.com and those who can't.[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Phoenician character properties

2004-05-29 Thread John Cowan
ict myself? John Cowan Very well then, I contradict myself.[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am large, I contain multitudes. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Proposal to encode dominoes and other game symbols

2004-06-02 Thread John Cowan
.10 Perceived usefulness > The fact that a symbol merely seems to be useful or potentially > useful is precisely not a reason to code it. Demonstrated usage, or > demonstrated demand, on the other hand, does constitute a good reason > to encode the symbol. Amen. -- The Imperials ar

OT: John Cowan announces the "Unix Power Classic"

2004-06-03 Thread John Cowan
D] Thanks. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies!John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies.

Re: Revised Phoenician proposal

2004-06-08 Thread John Cowan
or Cyrillic letters (or digraphs); such a thing could easily be constructed and mapped to Unicode, thanks to the Croat-specific digraph compatibility characters present. That wouldn't make such an encoding a Good Thing in the wider world, though. -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
e been done in the past, I don't think that one document is enough to support the introduction of new Latin letters; these look extremely idiosyncratic, personal, novel and private use to me. -- All Norstrilians knew what laughter was: John Cowan it was "pleasurable corrig

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
mber how astonished you and I were, looking over the text. > Private use? Be > serious, John. That's a pretty ridiculous suggestion. I am serious. The PUA is the proper place for these things. -- "May the hair on your toes never fall out!" John Cowan --Thorin Oakenshield (to Bilbo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
ho need to interpret old documents have some hope of doing so. What we need is more evidence: either documentary evidence, or the evidence of breathing Africanists. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
m, any more than it's useful to encode most of the scripts in the Conscript Registry. Find more documents, and the picture changes. (Find more Phaistos-type disks, and that picture changes too.) -- If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan it has been said, then

Re: Bantu click letters

2004-06-10 Thread John Cowan
PO Box 2562 Solli N-0202 Oslo Norway + 47 22 12 9880 or: +47 22 12 9884 Mobile: +47 90 11 3974 +47 22 12 9890 But Gutenberg may not care: they mostly (now exclusively?) publish texts in the public domain. -- John Cowanhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: decent unicode capable web app editor

2004-06-16 Thread John Cowan
ers garbage if the HTML is sufficiently broken. TagSoup never gives up and never loops, but doesn't know as much about HTML.) -- Said Agatha Christie / To E. Philips Oppenheim John Cowan "Who is this Hemingway? / Who is this Proust? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who is this Vladimir / W

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
nicode/unicode.html, which > discusses these issues. Indeed. -- "In my last lifetime, John Cowan I believed in reincarnation;http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in this lifetime, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't."

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson scripsit: > At 14:11 -0400 2004-06-30, John Cowan wrote: > > >But the X WITH ACUTE characters there are exactly equivalent to the > >X WITH TONOS characters in the main Greek block, and the ones in the > >main Greek block are in fact preferred. >

Re: Greek tonos and oxia

2004-06-30 Thread John Cowan
n running text. -- "In my last lifetime, John Cowan I believed in reincarnation;http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in this lifetime, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't." --Thiagi http://www.reutershealth.com

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-02 Thread John Cowan
-- "I could dance with you till the cows John Cowan come home. On second thought, I'd http://www.ccil.org/~cowan rather dance with the cows when you http://www.reutershealth.com came home." --Rufus T. Firefly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
-- I wouldn't be able to reliably tell one name from another. This is true even though I have no more Greek, Hebrew, or Russian than I have Arabic or Chinese. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com "If he has seen farther than others, it is

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
spelling taken over from French at a time when French was pretty much > the international common language at least in diplomacy and art. Doubtless. I have even seen it spelled in German fashion in English a time or two. -- I suggest you call for help, John Cowan or lea

Re: is "n with tilde" used in French language ?

2004-07-04 Thread John Cowan
, you often put a tilde over the letter preceding the "n". > So e.g. "France" was "Frãce." I believe that this spelling was used > until about the time of the French revolution. In origin the tilde *was* a degenerate "n", of course. -- John C

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-06 Thread John Cowan
ne Irish, of course). -- My confusion is rapidly waxing John Cowan For XML Schema's too taxing:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd use DTDshttp://www.reutershealth.com If they had local trees -- http://www.ccil.org/~cowan I think I best switch to RELAX NG.

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-06 Thread John Cowan
ect Southern Sinitic in any case; cf. Cantonese "pak king"). In addition, when it isn't the capital (bei jing = "North-capital"), i.e. 1928-49, its name is Beiping ("north-peace"). -- Here lies the Christian,John Cowan judge, a

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-09 Thread John Cowan
ves in New Delhi. --Shel Silverstein -- "Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them http://www.ccil.org/~cowan together. After one taste, you'll duck [EMAIL PROTECTED] soup the rest of your life."

Re: Looking for transcription or transliteration standards latin- >arabic

2004-07-09 Thread John Cowan
/0439. I think I agree with this: i-breve does not have the same universal status as shch. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Tis the Linux rebellion / Let coders take their place, The Linux-nationale / Shall Microsoft outpace, We can write better

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation selectors and vowel marks

2004-07-13 Thread John Cowan
N, creating a new COMBINING UMLAUT > character, would have caused *unprecedented and catastrophic* > equivalence and normalization problems. Indeed. -- "Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-17 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: > But I think the best thing to do is to drop *all* Hebrew > combining marks; the result of this is valid unpointed Hebrew. I agree. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Sch

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-17 Thread John Cowan
lly or fully decomposed text. I agree that in the TR#30 context, the Right Thing is to remove the character pair mappings altogether, and all of the single-character mappings that have canonical decompositions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan I come fr

Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-17 Thread John Cowan
on it messes up Ctrl-Shift and Ctrl-nonletter key combinations. -- "Well, I'm back." --SamJohn Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
t using the DDK. No, it isn't everything, but it's a great deal, especially considering the annoying behavior of the standard US-International keyboard. Why not release your keyboard to the world? -- "You're a brave man! Go and break through the John Cowan lines,

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
Peter Kirk scripsit: > Anyway, is Yiddish in fact never written completely unpointed? That > would surprise me. It might have happened at some point, but the standard (YIVO) Yiddish orthography would become illegible if points were stripped. -- Principles. You can't say A is

Re: Folding algorithm and canonical equivalence

2004-07-18 Thread John Cowan
rom the 0300 and 1DC0 blocks (the latter will > be part of 4.1), and make some principled additions / deletions. I'd say, start from the combining characters which are in ISO 10646 Level 3, and then add the combining characters from the abjads (Hebrew, Arabic, Syriac). -- XQuery Blueberry

Re: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr30/datafiles/DiacriticFolding.txt

2004-07-19 Thread John Cowan
points and accents, you have unpointed Hebrew. -- Verbogeny is one of the pleasurettesJohn Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> of a creatific thinkerizer. http://www.reutershealth.com -- Peter da Silvahttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-22 Thread John Cowan
explicate them? -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo: "Imagine, Colonel Lawrence, ninety-two already!" El Auruns's reply: "Many happy returns of the day!"

Re: Much better Latin-1 keyboard for Windows

2004-07-23 Thread John Cowan
is Alt, or rather AltGr, then. I presume the Swedish-church-symbol is functioning as the variety of Alt that makes keyboard accelerators. -- What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the John Cowan sound of a [Ww]all that people have stopped [EMAIL PROTECTED] banging their head

Re: Combining across markup?

2004-08-12 Thread John Cowan
x27;s up to rendering routines whether they appear as block, inline, or not at all. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Promises become binding when there is a meeting of the minds and consideration is exchanged. So it was at King's Bench in common law Eng

Re: MSDN Article, Second Draft

2004-08-20 Thread John Cowan
r not, "ANSI" has two meanings now: the American National Standards Institute and a generic term for an 8-bit Windows codepage. Similarly, "OEM" means both an original equipment manufacturer and an 8-bit PC-DOS codepage. -- "No, John. I want formats that are actually

Japanese pitch accent representations

2004-09-05 Thread John Cowan
/~sakusha/dict/martin-je.html http://member.newsguy.com/~sakusha/dict/kenkyusha-je.html -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Consider the matter of Analytic Philosophy. Dennett and Bennett are well-known. Dennett rarely or never cites Bennett, so Bennett

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-08 Thread John Cowan
is used for other languages besides Hebrew. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.com "Mr. Lane, if you ever wish anything that I can do, all you will have to do will be to send me a telegram asking and it will be done." "Mr. Hearst, if you e

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
guages have a letter named CHE distinct from the more usual, cross-linguistic Cyrillic CHE. There is no such contrast in this case: we do not speak of LATIN SMALL LETTER ICELANDIC THORN, for example. -- Some people open all the Windows; John Cowan wise wives welcome the spring

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
tion of whether the characters in question are indeed unique to Yiddish or not. My other point stands. -- Babies are born as a result of the John Cowan mating between men and women, and most http://www.reutershealth.com men and women enjoy mating. http://

Re: Public Review Issue: UAX #24 Proposed Update

2004-09-09 Thread John Cowan
eading (but not totally so). As for FHTORA, it's annoying, but I don't see how it can be read as anything but FTHORA if you know anything about Greek at all, which is probably why it was overlooked until it was too late. -- You escaped them by the will-death John Cowan and the

Re: basic-hebrew RtL-space ?

2004-11-02 Thread John Cowan
c consider RTL to BE the "visual" order? Of course. It's sheer ethnocentricism. -- Values of beeta will give rise to dom! John Cowan (5th/6th edition 'mv' said this if you triedhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan to rename '.' or '..' entries; see [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html)

Re: not font designers?

2004-11-02 Thread John Cowan
nd then, but I'm hardly a "database designer"). -- The Imperials are decadent, 300 pound John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> free-range chickens (except they have http://www.reutershealth.com teeth, arms instead of wings, and http://www.ccil.org/~cowan dinosaurlike tails).--Elyse Grasso

Opinions on this Java URL?

2004-11-13 Thread John Cowan
ust as the standard way of serializing ints is to write them out as a 4-byte big-endian sequence. They simply have nothing to do with character encoding at all. -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse John Cowan tank-towns out in the alfalfa belt, so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] hard

Re: U+0000 in C strings (was: Re: Opinions on this Java URL?)

2004-11-14 Thread John Cowan
than C which does not support strings containing U+ in most implementations. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.reutershealth.com "But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Eowyn I am, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, i

Re: U+0000 in C strings (was: Re: Opinions on this Java URL?)

2004-11-15 Thread John Cowan
ory representation, which indeed is up to the JVM -- Java does not prescribe it. > Those are design benefits. I was asking about the ability to represent > text adequately. Strings are not used solely to represent text; they are more general. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershe

Re: U+0000 in C strings

2004-11-15 Thread John Cowan
gs. Plus the original point of contention: binary serialization of Strings through the DataInput and DataOutput interfaces. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In might the Feanorians / that swore the unforgotten oath brought war into Arvernien / with burning

Re: [even more increasingly OT-- into Sunday morning] Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread John Cowan
a pop-up window. -- Ambassador Trentino: I've said enough. I'm a man of few words. Rufus T. Firefly: I'm a man of one word: scram! --Duck Soup John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Unicode HTML, download

2004-11-21 Thread John Cowan
24/7, but occasionally the need to sleep or to engage in business (I was at a conference all last week) or family business (a death in a friend's family) interferes with this otherwise laudable goal. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com "In computer s

Re: My Querry

2004-11-23 Thread John Cowan
as 301 (octal). I believe that PR1ME computers did this too. -- But you, Wormtongue, you have done what you could for your true master. Some reward you have earned at least. Yet Saruman is apt to overlook his bargains. I should advise you to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithfu

Re: Misuse of 8th bit [Was: My Querry]

2004-11-26 Thread John Cowan
not used in interchange. For example, it would be reasonable to represent Unicode characters as immediates on a virtual machine by using some pattern in the upper bits that flags them as characters. -- Eric Raymond is the Margaret Mead John Cowan of the Open Source movemen

Re: Relationship between Unicode and 10646

2004-11-26 Thread John Cowan
acts of self-abnegation, WG2 has a fixed policy of not overriding the UTC or vice versa. > Here in Europe it does not go down well when US bodies claim the right > to make decisions for the whole world, It's a mistake to think of the Consortium as a U.S. body. -- Mark Twain on Ceci

Re: (base as a combing char)

2004-11-27 Thread John Cowan
neither necessary nor practical. (U+0132 and U+0133 are encoded for compatibility only.) In cases where ij is a digraph in Dutch text, i+ZWNJ+j will be effective. -- "Kill Gorgïn! Kill orc-folk! John Cowan No other words please Wild Men. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Drive away bad air and

Re: Relationship between Unicode and 10646

2004-11-30 Thread John Cowan
sensus cannot be reached, the proposal is eventually dropped, I suppose. -- Time alone is real John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the rest imaginaryhttp://www.reutershealth.com like a quaternion --phma http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: current version of unicode-font

2004-12-02 Thread John Cowan
ly have the widest coverage of any font, though it costs US$5 to use them. Both of them IMHO are a tad on the ugly side. Googling for "free Unicode fonts" (no quotes) is useful. -- One Word to write them all, John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Access to f

Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences (was: Re: Nicest UTF)

2004-12-06 Thread John Cowan
f the file system's. Some higher-level tools, such as directory listers and shells, have hardwired assumptions, others have changeable assumptions, but all are assumptions. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan No man is an island, entire of itself; every

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
ke fonts which the buyer keeps to himself?) -- Using RELAX NG compact syntax toJohn Cowan develop schemas is one of the simplehttp://www.reutershealth.com pleasures in life http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --Jeni Tennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Word dividers, was: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
to go quickly and remind him, lest he forget your faithful service. --Gandalf John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences (was: Re: Nicest UTF)

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
ere*, reserved, unassignable for actual character encoding. Plane E would be a plausible location. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen,http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, LOTR:FOTR

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
not all the software made is paid for, not by a long chalk, and most of what is made is not sold to anyone. Neither of these things is true of fonts in any but the most trivial ways -- yet. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon n

Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences (was: Re: Nicest UTF)

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
isn't going to > fly even two feet, I think the whole idea is going to be > a complete non-starter. I agree that that part won't fly, absolutely. -- In politics, obedience and support John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> are the same thing. --Hannah Arendthttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
ic* combining code point when it appears immediately after a tag. -- Don't be so humble. You're not that great. John Cowan --Golda Meir[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
"characters" mean in this sentence. Code points? > Combining character sequences? Something else? Neither. Unicode characters. -- "May the hair on your toes never fall out!" John Cowan --Thorin Oakenshield (to Bilbo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: US-ASCII (was: Re: Invalid UTF-8 sequences)

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
a "please" to that verb is a little > too much, don't you think? It's also pervasive in English: SALT talks, OPEC countries (or nations), Missisippi River, Gobi Desert. -- "[T]he Unicode Standard does not encode John Cowan idiosyncratic, personal, novel, or priv

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
but in terms of characters. XML processors are required to process UTF-8 and UTF-16, and may process other character encodings or not. But the internal model is that of characters. Thus surrogate code points are not allowed. -- John Cowan www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
t; identifiers and URIs, through escaping mechanisms. Not true. U+ is absolutely excluded in both XML 1.0 and XML 1.1. -- "I could dance with you till the cows John Cowan come home. On second thought, I'd http://www.ccil.org/~cowan rather dance with the c

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
n an XML document, and that document is put through NF(K)D, it will become not well-formed. However, NF(K)D is not recommended for XML documents, which should be in NFC. -- First known example of political correctness: John Cowan "After Nurhachi had united all the otherhttp://www.reu

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-10 Thread John Cowan
; that closes a tag will damage the document if it is NFC-normalized. -- You are a child of the universe no less John Cowan than the trees and all other acyclichttp://www.reutershealth.com graphs; you have a right to be here.http://www.ccil.org/~cowan --DeXiderata by Sean McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please RSVP... (was: US-ASCII)

2004-12-11 Thread John Cowan
r reply is requested". Later came the "RSVP card", a small card included with the invitation for the invitee to respond with. "An RSVP" of course means "a reply to an invitation marked 'RSVP'." -- My corporate data's a mess!

Re: RE: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-13 Thread John Cowan
hat an ill-formed code is semantically different from an untranslatable character, which is the purpose of U+FFFD. -- LEAR: Dost thou call me fool, boy? John Cowan FOOL: All thy other titles http://www.ccil.org/~cowan thou hast given away: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-14 Thread John Cowan
achieved by assuming it 99% of the time. (A private correspondent has come up with an ingenious trick which depends on being able to create files named 0x08 and 0x7F, but it truly is a trick, and in any case depends only on an ASCII interpretation.) -- Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so,

Re: Nicest UTF

2004-12-13 Thread John Cowan
the same codepoint or not at all. -- John Cowan[EMAIL PROTECTED] At times of peril or dubitation, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Perform swift circular ambulation,http://www.reutershealth.com With loud and high-pitched ululation.

Re: Roundtripping in Unicode

2004-12-14 Thread John Cowan
use this hack to specify non-ASCII characters with double encoding (first as UTF-8, then with the %-hack), but the URI Syntax RFC doesn't say. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin sq

Re: Newbie Question - what are all those duplicated characters FO R?

2003-08-14 Thread John Cowan
or FF00-FFEF, and nothing in that document explains to me > why these characters are necessary. Does anyone have any clues on that one? Fullwidth characters are used for backward compatibility with CJK character sets, which have a notion of "fullwidth" and "halfwidth" character

Re: Conflicting principles

2003-08-14 Thread John Cowan
; vowel over the "p" consonant at the beginning of the second line. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com Micropayment advocates mistakenly believe that efficient allocation of resources is the purpose of markets. Efficiency is a byproduct of

Re: Questions on ZWNBS - for line initial holam plus alef

2003-08-14 Thread John Cowan
uot; mean when attached to a sequence of characters? I understood that every sequence of characters whatsoever is permitted. -- "But the next day there came no dawn, John Cowan and the Grey Company passed on into the [EMAIL PROTECTED] darkness of the Storm of Mordor and were

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-15 Thread John Cowan
nt coin) in change, or you could buy the item with dime and get no change. Mark Twain, unsurprisingly, found a way to beat the system: go to the Post Office and buy a 5-cent stamp, then use the two dimes to buy two items. -- "Kill Gorg)Bûn! Kill orc-folk! John Cowan No ot

Althing and Tynwald

2003-08-15 Thread John Cowan
x27;assembly field'.) -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be yourself. Especially do not feign a working knowledge of RDF where no such knowledge exists. Neither be cynical about RELAX NG; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment in the world of markup, Jame

Re: [OT] $0.005 (was: Re: Handwritten EURO sign)

2003-08-15 Thread John Cowan
this is my version of a troll, because I knew a) that probably wasn't right and b) I was gonna get called on it. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reutershealth.com [P]olice in many lands are not complaining that local arrestees are insisting on having their Mira

Re: Hexadecimal

2003-08-16 Thread John Cowan
ll legacy texts (now including legacy Unicode texts!) and disambiguate every instance of A-F/a-f between alphabetic and hexanumeric uses would be inconceivable. The justification for not splitting off Turkish i and I from general Latin, due to their unusual case mappings, is exactly the same. -- If you

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread John Cowan
#x27;s also true that U.S. fluid ounces are about 4% bigger than Imperial ones. So in fact a U.S. gallon is about 83% of an Imperial one. Quarts and pints are corresponding. -- "There is no real going back. Though I John Cowan may come to the Shire, it will not seem [EMAIL PRO

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread John Cowan
e. Of course it's the *pint* (8 pints to a gallon) that is 16 or 20 fluid ounces. > Such is the confusion inherent in the Flintstone system. Indeed. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.reutershealth.comhttp://www.ccil.org/~cowan

Re: Handwritten EURO sign (off topic?)

2003-08-17 Thread John Cowan
27;s just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the Flintstone one is only .47 liters. -- John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht. --Albert Einstein

Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements (was: Re: Handwritten EURO sign)

2003-08-17 Thread John Cowan
eing one size, a firkin of wine in London another, whereas in the rest of England a firkin, of beer or wine indifferently, was still a third size? Pints, unlike fifths, are in general use. Leave bad enough alone. -- "They tried to pierce your heartJohn Cowan with a Morgul

Re: Clones (was RE: Hexadecimal)

2003-08-18 Thread John Cowan
ough preferred that it's worth having two characters so as to avoid getting the "wrong" glyph. > So, yes, I agree with Jim. Let's not have too many duplicates. But I still > have to ask why there are so many already? "History there is, and no history."

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