Re: Sad news about Brahmanathaswami

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 12/29/22 1:38 PM, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode wrote:

nice to finally see a picture of him!


Actually, that was a different monk. If you go here:



he is the one with the full white beard at the farthest left. You can see the 
kindness in his eyes.

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Re: Sad news about Brahmanathaswami

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I also worked with Swami for several years and when I heard he was 
seriously ill my heart sank. I considered him a friend. Besides  LiveCode, 
we talked of many things. He was kind and generous, and he loved LC, his 
life and his mission. HIs smile was contagious and sometimes when he 
laughed he seemed to almost visibly shine. We first connected when he said 
he sang to his cow and that she cried when he did it. He said he used to 
spend hours lying with his head on her neck, singing to her. He sent me a 
link so I could hear him singing and he had a lovely gentle voice. You have 
to love someone who sings to cows.


I miss you Swami. I should sing to cows.

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On December 25, 2022 11:02:46 AM Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Dear LiveCoders,

Many of you here remember Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami (some of you met him 
as Sannyasin Sivakatirswami many years ago). Swami has always been a 
champion for LiveCode and together with other other monks in Kaua’i Hindu 
Monastery built what is probably the largest LiveCode-backed website 
available on the net. He’s been a constant fixture here on the list for 
many years and many here been at some time or another worked with him on 
various projects. I’m sad to say that Brahmanathaswami passed away this 
week on Hawaii. His life has been full of joy among his beloved monks in a 
paradise Island full of love and sunshine.


I’ve worked with him there on and off for the best part of maybe 18 years 
(we’re not exactly sure when I started), he’s been a great friend and 
together we built many wondrous things with LiveCode. I’ll forever cherish 
those years, and I hope you all remember him fondly today as well.


Kind regards
Andre
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Re: Lock screen and animated gif

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A thingle is similar to a thimble but is available in much larger sizes. 
Some are used as cake and cheese covers but the largest ones can fit over 
the head, where some believe they protect from alien death rays and the 
mmwaves that cell towers emit.

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On December 20, 2022 9:35:01 AM harrison--- via use-livecode 
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What is a Thingle anyway?




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Re: Lock screen and animated gif

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That's probably a better solution anyway because progress bars make the 
wait seem faster since users can see something happening.

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On December 20, 2022 12:37:45 PM jbv via use-livecode 
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Finally I replaced the gif with a progress bar which updates every
25 lines during step 6 (when more than 100 lines are returned) and
it's ok, since it allows me to use "lock screen".




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Re: Lock screen and animated gif

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It's also possible to set the currentFrame of an animated gif, which would 
do the same thing.

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On December 20, 2022 8:31:27 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode 
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Another option is to use an SVG icon and rotate it a bit each time.  Gives 
the impression of a spinning object.





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Re: Equivalent of a field's "on linkclicked" message in a browser widget?

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I guess it hasn't been fixed yet, or else we don't understand how to use 
it. When I was trying it, breakpoints didn't even trigger so I assumed the 
messages weren't being sent. Did you put the handlers in the widget script? 
When I tested we didn't have widgets yet.


If that doesn't work I'm not sure what will. Maybe you'd need some javascript?
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On December 8, 2022 5:25:32 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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Hi Jacque and all,

Am 06.12.2022 um 22:24 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:


Hi Jacque,

Am 06.12.2022 um 21:59 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:

On 12/6/22 1:13 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
what is the browser widget's equivalent to a field's "on linkclicked tLink" 
message?

Thanks for any hint!
I want to check if the user clicked e.g. a PDF file and download the file 
in that case.

What message do I have to catch in the browser widget?
You could try "browserDocumentLoadBegin" or "browserNavigateBegin" which 
would give you the URL that was clicked. But most browsers now download or 
display the PDF automatically when a PDF link is clicked. Firefox opens the 
PDF in a new window, and I think Safari downloads it. Not sure about Windows.

Windows, too, if the Acrobat Plug-in is installed on the target machine.
Only Android cannot display in a browser so far, too bad.
If this is for mobile, the URL might be enough information. BTW, I tried to 
use these messages a very long time ago and they were not sent, but 
hopefully that's been fixed by now.

Fingers crossed, will try and tell. :-)
Thank you!


macOS 12.6.1, LC 9.6.9 rc2

I tried:
--
on browserNavigateBegin pUrl
  if pURL ends with ".pdf" then
 libURLDownloadToFile pUrl, (specialfolderpath("dektop") & "/test666.pdf")
  else
 pass browserNavigateBegin
  end if
end browserNavigateBegin

on browserDocumentLoadBegin pUrl
  if pURL ends with ".pdf" then
 libURLDownloadToFile pUrl, (specialfolderpath("dektop") & "/test666.pdf")
  else
 pass browserDocumentLoadBegin
  end if
end browserDocumentLoadBegin
--
No file on the desktop, the browser simply ignores the script!?

So any hint on how to download a clicked linke in the browser widget still 
welcome!



Best

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Re: Equivalent of a field's "on linkclicked" message in a browser widget?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 12/6/22 1:13 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

what is the browser widget's equivalent to a field's "on linkclicked tLink" 
message?
Thanks for any hint!


I want to check if the user clicked e.g. a PDF file and download the file in 
that case.
What message do I have to catch in the browser widget?


You could try "browserDocumentLoadBegin" or "browserNavigateBegin" which would give you the URL 
that was clicked. But most browsers now download or display the PDF automatically when a PDF 
link is clicked. Firefox opens the PDF in a new window, and I think Safari downloads it. Not 
sure about Windows.


If this is for mobile, the URL might be enough information. BTW, I tried to use these messages 
a very long time ago and they were not sent, but hopefully that's been fixed by now.


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Re: iOS what camera(s) to choose for only reading a QR-code?

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I'd guess only Auto-Focus  is enough.
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On December 4, 2022 9:59:26 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
 wrote:



uh, I just call mergav's barcode scan routines. it works on both front and
rear-facing
I scan both 2D and 1D barcodes, this way.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 10:42 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hi friends,

in my app I only need the user to scan a qr-code.
No picture or video will be taken!

Which of these cameras do I need to check in the STAB
for this purpose?
Still camera
Auto-Focus camera
Front-facing camera
Video camera

Thanks in advance!


Best

Klaus

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Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 230, Issue 17

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I like to surprise people. :) Basically I was hoping to avoid brute force, 
but it looks like import/export may be the best way. If I do the stacks 
only a few at a time I'll only need a dozen passes or so.


Part of the problem was determining which locks need changing and which 
were not visual effects, or which were locked in one handler and unlocked 
in a handler that might be elsewhere, sometimes even in a different stack. 
Some manual examination seems required. Fortunately the latter is rare.


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On November 23, 2022 5:58:41 AM info--- via use-livecode 
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Hallo Jacqueline,
Well I wouldn’t expect you asking such a question..!




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Re: Lock screen challenge

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On 11/22/22 3:27 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

One option to use an external editor would be ScriptTracker.  You could export 
the scripts, do your bulk changes, and then import them back.


That's worth a thought. Thanks.

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Re: Lock screen challenge

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On 11/22/22 3:08 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote:

A random thought: if you converted to script-only stack behaviors first,
then you would have a bunch of text files you can use whatever tool you
like on.


This project is a huge HC world. There are a lot of stacks, hundreds of cards, and probably 
thousands of controls. It's written the old HC way, so behaviors probably wouldn't help; almost 
every control is independent and performs a different action. I've already converted the few 
common actions to a backscript, but there's nothing much to hang a behavior on.



Navigator has support for test-based filtering of controls, and can
copy/paste scripts, but it doesn't support copying/pasting to more than one
control at a time. That would be an interesting problem to solve. What's
your time frame?


Indeterminate, but not infinite. ;) I won't need to copy scripts though, every one of them is 
different. It's truly old-style HC. In fact, I'm still running with HCAddressing set to true, 
which breaks the property inspector a lot. My next task is to get rid of that.



My first thought is to export all scripts to a single file, with customized
headers for each object (maybe with a user-definable format). Then look for
that same format when pasting, to restore/update the scripts. Does that
make sense? Or would it be better to have an export function to create
individual files, one ofr each control, with the script in the file? That's
probably more robust, but not everyone knows how to make bulk changes to a
bunch of text files.


Either way would probably work for most things, though if you exported all the controls in this 
project to a single file, you'd have a 20 MB novel. TBH, I already have a handler somewhere 
that writes out all scripts in a stack with headers; an old HC friend wrote it 30 years ago and 
it still works. Maybe I can dig that up.


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Re: Lock screen challenge

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Yup. That happens, and I thought of it. I'm still trying to figure out how to 
approach this.

On 11/22/22 3:50 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

Not to be Johnny Rain Cloud... What if handler "A" locks and it calls either hander "B" 
OR handler "C" to unlock?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 10:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: Lock screen challenge

Thanks to both you and Craig. I couldn't think of any other way to do it 
either, but was hoping there was something other than brute force. Magic, 
maybe. It took LC's search/replace dialog a long time just to find all the 
instances, and actually editing them will be longer. But, it's just a one-off.

Craig, I posted here because I more comfortable with it, and because more 
old-timers tend to be on the list.

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http://www.hyperactivesw.com On November 21, 2022 3:45:16 PM Paul Dupuis via 
use-livecode  wrote:


I was also going to suggest just brute forcing it. Something like:
(code not complete or syntax checked)

repeat with i=1 to the number of stacks
   repeat with j = 1 to the number of cards in stack i
 repeat with k= 1 to the number of controls of card j of stack i
   put the script of control k of card j of stack i into tScript
   -- look through the lines of tScript for "lock screen", note the
line number A, then search from there onward for "unlock screen" and
note the line number B
   -- if line B begins with (after trimming spaces) "unlock screen
with" then
  -- replace line B with "unlock screen with visual effect"
 -- and replace line A with "lock screen for visual effect"
 end repeat
   end repeat
end repeat


On 11/21/2022 4:30 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

Jacque.

Why aren’t you on the forum?

Cant you just loop through each line in your handlers, and find the
ones that contain “lock screen”, both with and without the visual effect thing.
Search downstream until you find the “unlock” line, That gives you
the start and finish lines for each handler. Then you can just
replace the start and finish lines with the new ones.

Am I missing this?

Craig


On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
 wrote:

I'm updating a very old set of stacks that use old HC syntax for
"lock screen". A search with LC's Find utility says there are 723
instances that may need to be changed. Right now they look like this:

lock screen
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with 

These all need to be changed to:

lock screen for visual effect
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with visual effect 

The challenge is that not all "lock screen" commands use a visual
effect, some are simple lock/unlock pairs. I need to automate this.
The visual effects are not all the same. Some handlers have multiple
instances of locking the screen with or without a visual effect.

I'd use a regex if I could, but back references aren't supported (or
are they now?) I really don't want to do this manually.

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Re: Lock screen challenge

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Thanks to both you and Craig. I couldn't think of any other way to do it 
either, but was hoping there was something other than brute force. Magic, 
maybe. It took LC's search/replace dialog a long time just to find all the 
instances, and actually editing them will be longer. But, it's just a one-off.


Craig, I posted here because I more comfortable with it, and because more 
old-timers tend to be on the list.


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On November 21, 2022 3:45:16 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I was also going to suggest just brute forcing it. Something like: (code
not complete or syntax checked)

repeat with i=1 to the number of stacks
  repeat with j = 1 to the number of cards in stack i
repeat with k= 1 to the number of controls of card j of stack i
  put the script of control k of card j of stack i into tScript
  -- look through the lines of tScript for "lock screen", note the
line number A, then search from there onward for "unlock screen" and
note the line number B
  -- if line B begins with (after trimming spaces) "unlock screen
with" then
 -- replace line B with "unlock screen with visual effect"
-- and replace line A with "lock screen for visual effect"
end repeat
  end repeat
end repeat


On 11/21/2022 4:30 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode wrote:

Jacque.

Why aren’t you on the forum?

Cant you just loop through each line in your handlers, and find the ones 
that contain “lock screen”, both with and without the visual effect thing. 
Search downstream until you find the “unlock” line, That gives you the 
start and finish lines for each handler. Then you can just replace the 
start and finish lines with the new ones.


Am I missing this?

Craig

On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I'm updating a very old set of stacks that use old HC syntax for "lock 
screen". A search with LC's Find utility says there are 723 instances that 
may need to be changed. Right now they look like this:


lock screen
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with 

These all need to be changed to:

lock screen for visual effect
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with visual effect 

The challenge is that not all "lock screen" commands use a visual effect, 
some are simple lock/unlock pairs. I need to automate this. The visual 
effects are not all the same. Some handlers have multiple instances of 
locking the screen with or without a visual effect.


I'd use a regex if I could, but back references aren't supported (or are 
they now?) I really don't want to do this manually.


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Lock screen challenge

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I'm updating a very old set of stacks that use old HC syntax for "lock screen". A search with 
LC's Find utility says there are 723 instances that may need to be changed. Right now they look 
like this:


lock screen
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with 

These all need to be changed to:

lock screen for visual effect
-- do any number of things
unlock screen with visual effect 

The challenge is that not all "lock screen" commands use a visual effect, some are simple 
lock/unlock pairs. I need to automate this. The visual effects are not all the same. Some 
handlers have multiple instances of locking the screen with or without a visual effect.


I'd use a regex if I could, but back references aren't supported (or are they now?) I really 
don't want to do this manually.


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Re: itemoffset & wholematches

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How about a one-liner:

put wordOffset("incertain",myVar)

If the words ever have punctuation attached, use trueWordOffset.

On 11/14/22 6:51 AM, jbv via use-livecode wrote:

Hi list,

I have a variable with a content of 3 lines as follows :
1    sombre    brun    profond
2    flou    incertain
3    inexploré    mystérieux    inconnu

The separator between words is tab.
I want to check if a certain word is among the items as a whole.

The following script returns "6" :
    set itemdel to tab
    set the wholematches to false
    put itemoffset("incertain",myVar)

The following script returns "0" :
    set itemdel to tab
    set the wholematches to true
    put itemoffset("incertain",myVar)

The following script returns "7" :
    set itemdel to tab
    set the wholematches to true
    replace return with tab in myVar
    put itemoffset("incertain",myVar)

Scripts 1 & 3 are logical, but any logical explanation
for the result of script 2 ? Does it mean that the return
char after the word is considered as part of the word ?


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Re: Anyone any experience with Livecode under Ventura?

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There is no scheduling, it's all automatic. Time Machine backs up once an 
hour, then combines the back ups once a day, then once a week, then once a 
month. When the disk is full it deletes the oldest to make room. With a 
multi-terrabyte drive that doesn't happen often.


It alternates each backup every hour between my two drives. You can add any 
number of drives and it will rotate every hour among them.


The UI combines all the backups into a single visual report so you don't 
need to figure out which drive stores it. If you don't like the visual 
display you can use the Finder and grab any backup from there. For 
convenience, TM creates an alias to the most recent backup on each drive.


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On November 13, 2022 2:05:04 AM Mark Smith via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Brilliant. I’m inspired. (I presume you can program Time Machine to use 
drive A on Mon, Wed, Fri, drive B on Tues, Thurs, Sat kind of thing?).


On 11 Nov 2022, at 9:45 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


On 11/10/22 12:40 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote:

I think my odds are better using a cloud
service than my own efforts at maintaining things.


I do both local and cloud backups. If you haven't set up Time Machine I 
highly recommend it. I have two backup drives on my Mac and Time Machine 
alternates backups between them. I never have to think about it, and it's 
saved me more times than I can count, especially when I save a stack and 
later find out I introduced problems. I just grab the last working copy and 
get back to work. When I travel, I put one of the drives in a safe place at 
home and take the other one with me, just in case. That came in handy once 
when I had to review a script to answer a client's question while I was out 
of town. SSD drives are just a little larger than a cigarette pack, 
inexpensive, and easy to carry.


I also have Google Drive set up to automatically backup a few important 
folders including my client folder. That way I have essentially three 
backups of the important stuff. The good part is that I don't have to do 
anything at all, the copies take care of themselves.


The initial setup happened a couple of decades ago when I lost everything. 
My Mac's hard drive failed suddenly and my entire digital life went with 
it. I'm obsessive now. It's entirely possible to be lazy about backups and 
still have them.


BTW, one or the other backup drives has failed a couple of times over the 
years. I take the dead one offline and Time Machine will continue to backup 
to the other one until I can get a replacement. This happens about every 
3-5 years.


I haven't lost any data since the original catastrophe.

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About that Enter key

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Enter does not trigger and doesn't compile for me in the script editor on LC 9.6.9 rc 2. It 
works in other versions. If you're not having any luck with it, try an older version.


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Re: Easy Android adaptive icons

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Not quite. Prerendered means that you have already added glow and shine to 
the icons. If you want Apple to render the icon according to the style of 
the phone's current OS, leave prerendered unchecked and Apple will draw the 
shine effect for you. IPhones don't use .icns files.


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On November 12, 2022 4:35:13 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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ah, so prerendered means an ".icns" file, thank you.




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Re: Easy Android adaptive icons

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On 11/11/22 5:31 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

But now I have no idea what icon to set for what iDevice in LC? See here:

Prerendered icon? Que? 8-)


You don't need prerendered if you are just using a basic image. Apple will 
render the icon for you.

If you hover the mouse over the "..." next to the icon path field, it will tell you the size it 
expects for that icon.


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Re: Anyone any experience with Livecode under Ventura?

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On 11/10/22 12:40 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote:

I think my odds are better using a cloud
service than my own efforts at maintaining things.


I do both local and cloud backups. If you haven't set up Time Machine I highly recommend it. I 
have two backup drives on my Mac and Time Machine alternates backups between them. I never have 
to think about it, and it's saved me more times than I can count, especially when I save a 
stack and later find out I introduced problems. I just grab the last working copy and get back 
to work. When I travel, I put one of the drives in a safe place at home and take the other one 
with me, just in case. That came in handy once when I had to review a script to answer a 
client's question while I was out of town. SSD drives are just a little larger than a cigarette 
pack, inexpensive, and easy to carry.


I also have Google Drive set up to automatically backup a few important folders including my 
client folder. That way I have essentially three backups of the important stuff. The good part 
is that I don't have to do anything at all, the copies take care of themselves.


The initial setup happened a couple of decades ago when I lost everything. My Mac's hard drive 
failed suddenly and my entire digital life went with it. I'm obsessive now. It's entirely 
possible to be lazy about backups and still have them.


BTW, one or the other backup drives has failed a couple of times over the years. I take the 
dead one offline and Time Machine will continue to backup to the other one until I can get a 
replacement. This happens about every 3-5 years.


I haven't lost any data since the original catastrophe.

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Re: ENTER in scripts

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I wonder if you could remap one to send the Mac key code for Enter.

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On November 10, 2022 10:00:28 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


It does nothing, but to be fair I am using a Windows xternal keyboard (if 
there is such a thing these days,) on a MacOS laptop, and both "Enter" keys 
are called, "Enter." Neither does anything in terms of formatting the SE or 
compiling. It works for me though.


Bob S


On Nov 9, 2022, at 16:59 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I'm on a Mac and I've been using the enter key to compile for years (back 
to MetaCard I think.) Are you sure it does nothing? Watch the dot in the 
script tab and see if it turns green.


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On November 9, 2022 4:19:36 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Hmmm... On MacOS enter does nothing. Return inserts a carriage return. I 
use tab then cmd-save to format then comile the script.


Bob S


On Nov 7, 2022, at 13:29 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Well, you learn something exceedingly simple every day. OK I get it. Enter 
is the same as clicking "Apply". Very convenient! Saves time typing in the SE.


THANKS!


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Newman via use-livecode

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 2:08 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Craig Newman
Subject: Re: ENTER in scripts

All.

"Enter" has always worked for me. And focus has always been required to be 
in the SE for it to do so.


This seems logical to me. It would not do for actions specific to certain 
spaces to be affected, or effected, when not in that space.


Craig

On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Do you mean does pressing the ENTER key does the same thing as clicking the 
‘Apply’ button at the top left of the script editor?


The tool tip for the ‘APPLY’ button says.

‘compile and apply the current script (Enter, cmd+Return)’

I actually did not know there was a keyboard shortcut for the ‘Apply’ 
button.  That is a handy tip.


I tried it out and at first it did not work.  That time the focus was on 
the script field and the text cursor was there.


If I clicked on part of the card outside of the script field then the 
cmd+Return key combination worked.


If I clicked in another object like the ‘find’ text field or a handler in 
the list to the left of the text field or on the ‘MatchCase’ 
checkbox	CMD+Return would not work.


So it looks like it only works when there is no focus on a field or other 
object.



In any case it sounds like a bug.   The key combination should work whether 
the script field has focus or not.



Since I have never used that key combo before I am not sure whether that 
behaviour has changed or not.



Martin Koob


On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Klaus wrote


is it only me or does the ENTER key nothing after hitting while in
script editor?



https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23999

Please note: in 9.6.9 rc 2 there is some more scriptifying of IDE stacks. 
Some of them have some quirks.
It is well worth to test 9.6.2 rc 2 to catch as many as possible and report 
them.


Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: ENTER in scripts

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I'm on a Mac and I've been using the enter key to compile for years (back 
to MetaCard I think.) Are you sure it does nothing? Watch the dot in the 
script tab and see if it turns green.


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On November 9, 2022 4:19:36 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Hmmm... On MacOS enter does nothing. Return inserts a carriage return. I 
use tab then cmd-save to format then comile the script.


Bob S


On Nov 7, 2022, at 13:29 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Well, you learn something exceedingly simple every day. OK I get it. Enter 
is the same as clicking "Apply". Very convenient! Saves time typing in the SE.


THANKS!


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Newman via use-livecode

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 2:08 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Craig Newman
Subject: Re: ENTER in scripts

All.

"Enter" has always worked for me. And focus has always been required to be 
in the SE for it to do so.


This seems logical to me. It would not do for actions specific to certain 
spaces to be affected, or effected, when not in that space.


Craig

On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Do you mean does pressing the ENTER key does the same thing as clicking the 
‘Apply’ button at the top left of the script editor?


The tool tip for the ‘APPLY’ button says.

‘compile and apply the current script (Enter, cmd+Return)’

I actually did not know there was a keyboard shortcut for the ‘Apply’ 
button.  That is a handy tip.


I tried it out and at first it did not work.  That time the focus was on 
the script field and the text cursor was there.


If I clicked on part of the card outside of the script field then the 
cmd+Return key combination worked.


If I clicked in another object like the ‘find’ text field or a handler in 
the list to the left of the text field or on the ‘MatchCase’ 
checkbox	CMD+Return would not work.


So it looks like it only works when there is no focus on a field or other 
object.



In any case it sounds like a bug.   The key combination should work whether 
the script field has focus or not.



Since I have never used that key combo before I am not sure whether that 
behaviour has changed or not.



Martin Koob


On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Klaus wrote


is it only me or does the ENTER key nothing after hitting while in
script editor?



https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23999

Please note: in 9.6.9 rc 2 there is some more scriptifying of IDE stacks. 
Some of them have some quirks.
It is well worth to test 9.6.2 rc 2 to catch as many as possible and report 
them.


Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: LC Date Conversions post 2035

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That's the centuryCutoff in action, but I think something is amiss since 
it's only supposed to apply to 2-digit years and you supply a 4-digit year.


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On November 6, 2022 8:28:34 PM Mark Clark via use-livecode 
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I was testing one of the tools I use to handle licensing today and decided 
to run the series through a few iterations adding 2 years at a time. I 
noticed that my dates were reverting to the 20th c. Hmm, whoops.


After a bit of head scratching I decided it wasn't just my doing.

Date conversion sort of works but the output can lead to trouble in the 
future. I've done a few tests and some lengthy, but if anyone cares to 
perform the "short test," please do.


Change your date to 12/31/2034; then change to 2035.



run this:

put the date into test
convert test to dateitems

answer item 1 of test --works in 2034; broken in 2035


Mark



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Re: LC Date Conversions post 2035

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That's the centuryCutoff property in action, but it's only supposed to 
apply to 2-digit years. So I think something is amiss since you supply a 
4-digit year.



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On November 6, 2022 8:28:34 PM Mark Clark via use-livecode 
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I was testing one of the tools I use to handle licensing today and decided 
to run the series through a few iterations adding 2 years at a time. I 
noticed that my dates were reverting to the 20th c. Hmm, whoops.


After a bit of head scratching I decided it wasn't just my doing.

Date conversion sort of works but the output can lead to trouble in the 
future. I've done a few tests and some lengthy, but if anyone cares to 
perform the "short test," please do.


Change your date to 12/31/2034; then change to 2035.



run this:

put the date into test
convert test to dateitems

answer item 1 of test --works in 2034; broken in 2035


Mark



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Easy Android adaptive icons

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For anyone struggling with Android adaptive icons, or who like me doesn't want to deal with 
Android Studio just to make a single icon, I found this:


https://easyappicon.com/

It does work and is quick and easy. The Android icons are all placed in a single folder and I 
think you can probably just point the Standalone Settings to that folder, though I renamed it 
"res" in case LC is looking for the Android Studio naming convention.


It also makes iOS icons which seem to come along automatically. Those are all in a second 
folder which you can ignore, trash, or use for cross platform development.


I tried several different online icon utilities and this one worked best for me.

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TSNet cache error

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I have a browser widget in an Android app and I keep getting an error "tsnet: ERR_CACHE_MISS". 
This happens when using both the Test button and when installing a built Android app.


I've cleared Chrome's cache, and deleted and reinstalled the app several times, but the widget 
won't connect. How would I fix the browser widget cache?


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Re: one field to rule them all

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There's a native Android field, and the mobile commands also work. I 
usually use the commands because they offer a bit more control than the widget.


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On September 26, 2022 2:48:59 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
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does anyone know why we don't have a single field widget?
i am just dipping a toe in the android waters, so do the mobilecontrol
commands not work in android? the dictionary seems to say that they do.

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Re: Weird performance issue

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Are you familiar with the cardnames function? Letting the engine do it for 
you is always faster. That doesn't answer your question though.


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On September 23, 2022 5:46:24 PM Geoff Canyon via use-livecode 
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 11:08 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


On 9/23/22 10:40, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
> It may be related to the size of the stack. LC would have to load it all
> into memory before checking the cards. Also, do the results change if
> you lock messages?

You also do a *lot* of work on both opening the stack and opening the
card. And looping through that many times in your test. Your loop test
doesn't really simulate real-world conditions for Navigator, so I don't
think I'd worry about it too much.

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Why would the stack be opened, or the card, just checking existence? And
why would that happen each time rather than once?

FYI for all tests the stacks are already open.

And: Navigator until the version I'm working on now did exactly this when
getting a list of the card names I have no idea why I coded it that way,
but checking that method vs. getting the number of cards and then getting
the names based on that was what let me to notice this.

thanks!

gc
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Re: Weird performance issue

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It may be related to the size of the stack. LC would have to load it all 
into memory before checking the cards. Also, do the results change if you 
lock messages?

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On September 22, 2022 3:01:48 PM Geoff Canyon via use-livecode 
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I was testing something for Navigator and found the following:

put the long seconds into T
repeat 1
 get there is a card 1 of stack "untitled 1"
 --get there is a card 1 of stack "revnavigator"
end repeat
put the long seconds - T into T
put T
-- puts 0.005 or so

put the long seconds into T
repeat 1
 --get there is a card 1 of stack "untitled 1"
 get there is a card 1 of stack "revnavigator"
end repeat
put the long seconds - T into T
put T
-- puts 1.2

Why in the world would it take over 200x as long to identify that there is
a card 1 of Navigator vs. a random stack I just created?

I just checked and:
stack "message" -- over 3 seconds -- a second run was 0.4
stack "revdictionary" -- 1.5 seconds
stack "home" -- 0.02 seconds

I ran it across everything in the environment and got results from under a
hundredth of a second to over a second, with stacks pretty smoothly across
that range. No clue what's causing it.
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Web app checkbox buttons

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When a web app is run in a browser there are two buttons at the upper right: "Resize canvas" 
and "Lock/hide mouse pointer". What do these do?


There is also a "Fullscreen" button that throws a javascript error. If/when it works, is it 
supposed to change the browser window to full screen? Or just make the stack content fit the 
window?


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Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

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Legally the only date that matters is the date of creation. Almost everyone 
adds the current date as well, and I keep trying to talk my clients out of 
it but they won't listen. Then I have to keep updating the copyright 
string, knowing it doesn't matter, but if I don't the app looks old and 
unsupported. Some time back I wrote a handler that updates the end date to 
the current year on launch so I don't have to worry about it.


A single copyright creation date is valid for the life of the creator plus 
(in the US) 75 years.


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On September 15, 2022 5:12:59 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 15/09/2022 15:44, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

What's NavRAD? It's a better version of LiveCode's NavBar widget.
Why "RAD"? Cos Ralph A DiMola said so, since he added the first two nifty
updates to it:


I see the code has an outdated copyright statement, which would (I
think) currently mean that any app using it would (potentially) become
open-source (GPL). If that;s not the intent, maybe it could be updated ?

Currently it says


  Copyright (C) 2015-2022 LiveCode Ltd.icon

  This file is part of LiveCode.

  LiveCode is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
under
  the terms of the GNU General Public License v3 as published by the Free
  Software Foundation.

  LiveCode is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
WITHOUT ANY
  WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or
  FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License
  for more details.

  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
  along with LiveCode.  If not see .  */


Alex.




Copyright (C) 2015-2022 LiveCode Ltd.icon



This file is part of LiveCode.



LiveCode is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
under

the terms of the GNU General Public License v3 as published by the Free

Software Foundation.



LiveCode is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
WITHOUT ANY

WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or

FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License

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Re: System Time Zone

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

That was my first thought too and I (erroneously) suggested the internet 
"time", which should have been "date". I found a ready-made lookup list and 
began experimenting. No go.


You have to know whether the area is on daylight savings time because the 
offset changes. You also need to know the location because cities in the 
same zone vary, and Apple's format requires a specific city location 
reference, so that would be a second lookup.


And the OP doesn't want a lookup list anyway.

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On September 14, 2022 11:03:40 AM Richmond via use-livecode 
 wrote:



From an offset from GMT it is easy enough with this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Time_Zones_Map.png

to run up a listField with timezones and their countries as a sort of
ad-hoc lookup table.




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Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

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It needs to install the dictionary entry and the extension itself, and put 
the reference into the tools palette.


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On September 9, 2022 12:06:29 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Weird. I thought you could just toss it in the extensions folder.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 10:33 AM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Yes, And after the install you will the widget folder in your "My
LiveCode"==>Extensions folder. It will appear the the tool palette and in
the inclusions pane of the standalone settings.

Ralph DiMola
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Milby via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2022 9:54 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Brian Milby
Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

You have to use the IDE to install widgets.
Tools… Extension Manager… + (icon, top right)

Brian Milby
br...@milby7.com

> On Sep 9, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Throwing NavRAD into my extensions folder doesn't seem to install it.
> I wonder why.
>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:19 PM Mike Kerner
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> by the way, isn't it crazy how much overhead is required with lcb
widgets?
>> there is so...much...stuff you have to put on top just to get to the
>> heart of the thing.
>> and i'm never going to like the way lc embeds the comments in the
>> source of anything.
>> or the way they spell "favourites", or pronounce "Aluminum". Do you
>> see an extra "i" in there? No? It's invisible, that's why.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:00 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the user is going to need to code the width adjustment in
>>> the resizeStack handler.  Widgets can’t change their rect on their
>>> own.  It has to happen from the LCS side.
>>>
>>> Brian Milby
>>> br...@milby7.com
>>>
 On Sep 6, 2022, at 3:29 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

 Mike,

 For future reference the source is in the .lce file. The .lce is in
 zip
>>> format. Temporarily change the extension to .zip. You will see the
>>> lcb file in there. Also when you install it the source will be in
>>> the extension folder. But since I posted .lce I have put in comments
>>> starting with "RAD Change" to show where I have made changes. Here
>>> is the link to the updated
>>> source==>https://www.dropbox.com/s/bv930usovpruo5e/navrad.lcb?dl=0

 Thanks for taking a look!

 Also I found that after I updated the docs that the docs are
 generated
>>> from the lcb file. I re-built the widget and boom my doc changes
>>> were destroyed. No problem I just had redo the docs for my changes
>>> in the lcb file. So many unknowns. I am trying to find a way to
>>> resize it to the card width with a user setting for height percent
>>> of card width. But the docs are so scant and confusing I feel the
giant headache coming on again.


 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

 -Original Message-
 From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com]
 On
>>> Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode
 Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 3:00 PM
 To: How to use LiveCode
 Cc: Mike Kerner
 Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

 Ralph,
 got the source, somewhere? i'd like to learn from it.
 testing to begin...now.

> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> I took a major stab at LCB and created a new widget based on the
> navbar widget. I have made 2 changes to the navbar and call it
navrad.
> It does not modify the stock navbar. With almost no docs it was a
> challenge. There were so many unknowns I got a few giant
> headaches. It adds 4 new
> properties(iconFill,autoRADHilite,preHilitedItem,
> preHilitedItemName) and 1 new message(preHiliteChanged). I updated
> the documentation so the new properties and message show in the
> dictionary with example(search for "navrad" or just "rad").
> One thing I ran into was that I had to call the "autohilite"
> property autoRADHilite because using any existing property causes
> a confilict that I could not get around without sufficient docs.
> It does show in the property inspector as "auto hilite". These
> changes allow 1)enlarge/center the icon if there is no label
> 2)intercept a selection before it is hilited and make a choice to
> hilite and send the stock hiliteChanged message (or not). Why no
> label? For one social media
>>> icons don’t need labels. Why a 

Re: System Time Zone

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"The internet time" gives you the offset from Greenwich time. No city though.

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On September 7, 2022 6:50:09 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hi all.

I am exploring the possibility of creating a scheduling module, and am 
reading up on the iCalendar specification. I can localize the date and time 
by entering a valid time zone, and can hard code it for where I am at, but 
I want to be able to use this anywhere.


The format of a localized time in iCalendar looks something like:

DTSTAMP;TZID=America/Los_Angeles:20220907T163000

It's the, "America/Los_Angeles" bit I am trying to find a way to grok. How 
can I extract that in LC? Isn't there some kind of function that will 
return the current system's time zone?


Bob S


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Re: Text to speech

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Oh sure, that's what you will have said last time too. :P

On 9/3/22 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I swear I didn’t give him the time warp stack 3 years from now.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 3, 2022, at 13:30, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I just watched the video and this is exactly what I was looking for. I didn't 
know until a couple of days ago that I would need to implement speech across 
all platforms, so I suspect you are either a mind reader or you got ahold of my 
time warp stack and knew what I was going to ask before I did.

Either way, thank you for your prescience

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Re: Text to speech

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On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:24 AM, panagiotis wrote:

Yes, we discussed this topic in August's Problem Solving session. The stack
presented supports text-to-speech in all platforms (including Linux and
Web).


I just watched the video and this is exactly what I was looking for. I didn't know until a 
couple of days ago that I would need to implement speech across all platforms, so I suspect you 
are either a mind reader or you got ahold of my time warp stack and knew what I was going to 
ask before I did.


Either way, thank you for your prescience.

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Re: Text to speech

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Fantastic, thank you both. You've saved me hours of time.

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On September 2, 2022 3:26:38 AM panagiotis m via use-livecode 
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Hello all,

Yes, we discussed this topic in August's Problem Solving session. The stack
presented supports text-to-speech in all platforms (including Linux and
Web).

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Fri, 2 Sept 2022 at 00:36, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I think it was the July Problem solving session, but it could have been
August's. I think July 14th's session.





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Re: Text to speech

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Thank you. I keep missing the conferences and I need to watch them later. 
Do you happen to recall which one it was? It sounds like exactly what I'm 
looking for.


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On September 1, 2022 3:44:56 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 9/1/2022 4:33 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

What library/commands do you use for text to speech? I see that
revSpeak works on Windows and Mac, and the speech library ("speech*")
works on android, iOS, and Mac. What do you use if you want to support
all four platforms? Do you just branch to revSpeak for Windows?



I think Panos just shows how to build a common text to speech library
for all platforms from these two built-in in a recent Livecode Global
problem solving session.



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Text to speech

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What library/commands do you use for text to speech? I see that revSpeak works on Windows and 
Mac, and the speech library ("speech*") works on android, iOS, and Mac. What do you use if you 
want to support all four platforms? Do you just branch to revSpeak for Windows?


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Re: Standardize Font Appearance

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I have an Android app that uses a custom font. I just dropped the ttf file 
into the Copy Files pane of standalone settings and issued "start using 
font file" in a preOpenStack handler. Seems to work fine. Easy too.


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On August 30, 2022 7:39:19 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode 
 wrote:



THe only way to do this is to use google's web fonts and ship them with
your project. It works well.
To save you the trouble, Android requires the fonts to be in a "fonts"
folder in the root folder of your projects.
Or at least its what I read somewhere in the forums.

Cheers Bob

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 7:21 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hmmm spoke to soon. I see Start Using Font in the dictionary. I'll explore.

Bob S


On Aug 30, 2022, at 16:12 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
wrote:

Hi all.

I'm at the point now where I want to clean up the appearance of all my
projects across all platforms. For instance, I have a Time Calculator stack
that calculates total time for any number of start/stop/lunch entries. I
have heretofore left my field and label fonts at the default, which for
MacOS is . But when I create a standalone for Windows, the
size of that text is larger, and so any labels I have overflow the label
and only show me part of the text.

What I want to do is set up my environment so that whatever font I use in
the MacOS uses, there is an identical font on the Windows side as well. I
know there is a way to embed fonts in a project, but I don't really
understand how that works.

If I use a font that exists in both Mac and Windows, a common web font for
instance, they do not look at all the same on both platforms. Verdana is a
good example. I am not averse to purchasing a font family or two and
statically setting my font, size and style for every object, so long as the
Windows and MacOS look (reasonably) the same.

Any ideas?

Bob S

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Re: the script of with line numbers?

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On 8/29/22 4:36 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
Is there a way (an existing function or command in the language or IDE) to get the script of an 
object WITH the line numbers as you see them in the IDE script editor?


OR

Do I just have to do something like:

put the script of tObject into tScript
repeat with i=1 to the number of lines in tScript
   put i  before line i of tScript
end repeat

Any secret IDE or LCS knowledge welcome. Thank you in advance.


How about:

  get the script of 
  split it by cr
  combine it by cr and tab
  sort it numeric



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Re: addIcon issue

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I don't think you can add to the default icon family. The docs say that if 
you haven't specified a family then the icon goes into one named "custom". 
So see what you get when you run iconFamilies() and if "custom" is in there 
then set the family using setCurrentIconFamily("custom").


If you prefer, you can create your own family with its own name with 
addIconFamily. In any case you have to set the current family before you 
can use its icons.

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On August 21, 2022 7:48:13 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I have an svg widget that draws correctly, so I'm trying to add it to the
library, but addIcon does not seem to be working.
After calling addIcon, I try to search for the icon, but it does not appear
in the icon picker, and adding it by name does not work, either.
Here's the line:
get addIcon("test","m 13,21.59 -4.29,-4.3 -1.42,1.42 5,5 a 1,1 0 0 0 1.41,0
l 13,-13 -1.41,-1.42 z M 25,0 H 7 A 7,7 0 0 0 0,7 v 18 a 7,7 0 0 0 7,7 h 18
a 7,7 0 0 0 7,-7 V 7 A 7,7 0 0 0 25,0 Z m 5,25 a 5,5 0 0 1 -5,5 H 7 A 5,5 0
0 1 2,25 V 7 A 5,5 0 0 1 7,2 h 18 a 5,5 0 0 1 5,5 z",0)


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Re: A few issues with web apps

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On 8/18/22 2:52 PM, I wrote:

All in all, everything else works, which is really quite incredible.


When I accidentally started replying to Andreas privately instead of to the list (I should pay 
more attention, geez) he suggested others may want to see my test app. Thanks to Andreas for 
being so polite about it.


So here you go:



On desktop browsers, everything works great. On mobile it works pretty well except for text 
entry and a minor display issue.


On mobile it isn't possible to drag-select text in editable fields. Typing is iffy as well, and 
depending on the (Android) keyboard you use, the cursor can be misaligned and/or key presses 
don't always insert entries. I didn't test on iOS.


I've added a simple behavior to all the scrolling fields and removed the ugly field scrollbar. 
It tracks the mouse movement and scrolls the field accordingly. That works on desktop but 
doesn't work on mobile. This matches the behavior of anything draggable: the slider widget 
button, the buttons in the Population example that use "grab", and the LC field scroller thumb.


On both desktop and mobile, text styling isn't working. Some of the text in the "What is this?" 
substack should be bold but displays as plain. On the other hand, the substack does display 
correctly layered over the mainstack. I had wondered if it would work, and it does.


I know this will all get fixed so I'm not worried. This is just an example of where we're at 
right now for anyone curious. Overall, web deployment is very impressive. I was surprised at 
how good it is even in an unfinished state.


BTW, the ideas behind this stack are not original. I first re-created them in MetaCard based on 
online discussions 20 years ago, and when I opened it recently in LC 10 the stack opened 
without error. Kudos to Mark Waddingham's attention to backward compatibility.


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Re: The use-livecode list.

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We did it just for you because we've all been there.

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On August 19, 2022 6:54:47 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I've had a pretty shitty day. A variety of things have happened, or not
happened, that made it not one of the good days.

So I was not happy, and rather grumpy. (My apologies to Panos for being
ungracious in an earlier post - it was meant to be a plea for
completeness of the product in preference to more work-arounds - but it
came across wrongly. Sorry, Panos).

And then, the use-list comes up with a nice, tight, well-defined problem
to tackle - and now I can end my day on a puzzle-solving high note,
rather than dragging myself off to bed on a downbeat.

Thanks again, use-list !!

Alex.



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Re: A few issues with web apps

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I just tried the kangaroo example on your web site using my Android tablet. 
It behaves just like my slider widget. I can tap in the scrollbar to get 
the field scroll to jump but the indicator can't be moved. When I try, the 
whole canvas moves instead.


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On August 19, 2022 8:23:25 AM Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Thanks for the hint, Panos - that is useful to mention for those who want 
to try it.

However, that is not my problem - I’ve already done that!

Kangaroo’s stack works as advertised, as is (with dp-4 mod):
https://wheninspace.com/test/WebScrollField.html 



But when I try to use the code, either like in the original, where it is 
inserted by an LC script in preOpenStack, or by extracting the actual js 
and putting it into the html file beforehand, it just doesn’t trigger. I 
get no error message, js or LC, it just does nothing.


Actually, it was the same with the ”Meeting space” demo, which has a 
slightly different scroll wheel script. At first, I took both the resize js 
and the scroll js from there, but only the resize part works for me. It’s 
strange since my portal solution apparently catches resize events and 
passes them on to topStack, but fails to catch/pass scroll events…


/Andreas
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A few issues with web apps

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I have just created my first web deployment and I'm *very* impressed. I didn't need to change 
any of the original scripts, the only changes were for visual elements that were different when 
run in a browser.  Aside from appearance, the scripts ran flawlessly.


On desktop it's great in all three browsers I tested on. But I ran into issues when running in 
mobile browsers on Android. Does anyone know how to fix these things:


1. Editable fields fail with both SwiftKey and GBoard keyboards, though they fail in different 
ways. The cursor is misaligned on GBoard, I can't type spaces in SwiftKey, and it is impossible 
to drag-select text in either one. Do I need an Android native field? Right now I'm just using 
LC fields.


2. The slider widget does not allow dragging the round indicator button. I can tap the bar to 
get an approximate setting but fine tuning with the slider button is impossible. Rather than 
slide, the whole web canvas moves instead.


3. I have some scrolling fields and the default Motif scrollbar looks awful. How do I implement 
a native browser scroller? Should I use the scripts I use for mobile devices? What's the best 
way to implement scrolling fields?


All in all, everything else works, which is really quite incredible.

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Re: issue related to Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll

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On 8/18/22 1:18 PM, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode wrote:

I VERY much appreciate the feedback … it helps not to feel isolated with a 
virtually unsolvable issue which affects one’s credibility with clients.


There is more info in the bug report:


For us the problem did not show up until users installed Windows 11, and the drivers that ship 
with that conflict with LC, while the OEM driver does not. If Win 10 users are having the same 
issue, it may be that they got an update which updated the older drivers.


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Re: issue related to Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll

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The suggested fix in the bug report has worked for us:

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23659

Basically, delete the driver that comes with Windows and get the driver from Epson. Most of the 
problems seem to be with Epson printers but if your customers have a different printer, try 
that OEM driver.


We had one instance where the user didn't have a printer at all, but just deleting the Epson 
driver fixed it.


On 8/17/22 1:45 PM, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode wrote:

There was a flurry of discussions on the LC forum
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9

=36870=45) in April to July regarding errors occurring involving
Print.PrintSupport.Source.dll.

  


I will post on the forum as well but was wondering if anyone (including the
Mothership) has had similar problems and if solution(s) have been found.
The forum discussions seems to have ended with "some" possible solutions
but, in my reading, nothing definitive.  Like the discussions on the forum
*some* of my clients are experiencing this error but MANY are not. weird.

  


Douglas Ruisaard

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Re: iPhoneSafeAreaInsets() and Android

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On 8/11/22 7:44 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

FYI, iPhoneSafeAreaInsets() returns EMPTY on Android.


It looks like it's for iOS only, Android isn't listed in the dictionary reference. You'll 
probably need to use the working screenrect on Android.


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Re: Fail to test new stack on Android device

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Brian was right, but it's the build number that matters rather than the 
version number. You can either increase it, or delete the existing app on 
the phone before installing the other one.


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On August 11, 2022 5:31:36 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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Hi all,

I just tested an older stack on my Android device, everything is fine.
Then I created a new stack for a little stack and always get this error
when selecting "Test" in the LC dev menu.


Only script in that stack:

on preopenstack
  set the fullscreenmode of this stack to "showall"
end preopenstack

## And a button:
on mouseUp
 ## Need to know if that is returning anything or giving an error or whatever...
 answer iphonesafeareainsets()
end mouseUp

If I switch back to the other stack, I can upload and test, but not with 
this new stack!?


Any hints? Thanks!


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Re: iPhoneSafeAreaInsets() and Android

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Actually some Android phones have notches to imitate iPhones when Apple 
first introduced that. It wasn't very popular and most Android phones now 
use punch holes, but those also take up a bit of space, though not much.


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On August 11, 2022 10:29:29 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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It seems to me, someone who has done zero mobile development, that this 
function has no meaning on an android, and should therefore return empty to 
avoid unanticipated runtime errors.


There should be however a function to get the screen rects of an android. 
Does the effective working screenrect do it for you?


I see that your goal is to try and avoid platform checks, but iOS and 
Android seem to be such diverse OS platforms that checks are unavoidable. 
There are a TON of commands and functions beginning with iPhone. I stopped 
counting at 30 and I wasn't half way through. If all of these functions are 
to equivalent values for the Android OS, we'd be waiting 5 years for the 
enhancements.


Just my ignorant 2¢

Bob S


On Aug 11, 2022, at 05:44 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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iPhoneSafeAreaInsets() returns EMPTY on Android


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Windows standalone settings

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Does anyone still build for Windows x86 or is x86-64 sufficient now?

Also, what UAC execution level do you set? Default, highest avialable, etc.?

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Re: iPhone simulators

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If I remember right you can have an iPhone and an iPad simulator open at 
the same time and choose between them, but if you want two of the same type 
then it doesn't work.


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On August 10, 2022 11:39:54 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode


Does not seem possible in the moment...
Looks like only the first opened simulator is being addressed by LC.




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Re: megabundle thoughts

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I'm with Paul. I don't need additional licensing but if the widgets go on 
sale separately later then I'm in.


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On August 5, 2022 12:36:22 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
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I kind of agree with Paul (though I ame to the opposite conclusion).




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Re: wait 0 with messages

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On 7/31/22 12:04 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:


I don't think "wait 0" by itself does anything useful. Make a stack with two buttons. Running 
the script in the first button will prevent mouseUp events in button 2 from being processed.


I think it must do something, "wait 0" is a workaround for bug 22453 (and 18924 which is now 
marked as a duplicate.) I had to use the workaround and it works.


So my take is that any wait allows LC to do housekeeping, and "with messages" also allows 
app-generated messages. I'd like to get a confirmation from the team though.


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Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...

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This has little to do with LC and less to do with Ventura, but see your email.

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On July 12, 2022 9:55:22 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Ah. I stand corrected.

Of course, nothing in nature is linear.

And I still need to figure out how a stomache would have done us any good 
withour a circulatory system to get the food to the cells, or lungs to get 
oxygen to everything for that matter. It seems if you think about it that 
no vital organ would have provided any advantage without all the other 
organs being fully developed. Begs some questions, eh?


Bob S


On Jul 12, 2022, at 03:28 , Richmond via use-livecode 
 wrote:


That is a complete misunderstanding of the elevator theory of evolution: 
this was a theory propagated by some
of the people who misread Darwin (I don't mean Hobbesian individualists 
like Huxley and Dawkins) to say that

evolution is a linear and ever-upwards process.



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Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...

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On 7/10/22 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script window of 
a button, crashes LiveCode right away.


Sounds like the OSS community has some work to do, if there is anyone with the 
skills still there.

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Re: Tree Widget: hilitedValue?

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On 7/9/22 7:11 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

function getValue pArray, pPath
split pPath by comma
return pArray[pPath]
end getValue


I keep forgetting we can do that. It's cool, but I don't understand how it works. Splitting the 
path by comma produces a numbered array, and yet the function appears to ignore the numerical 
keys and return only the element values.


How come?

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Re: Tree Widget: hilitedValue?

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On 7/9/22 3:17 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 7/8/22 12:34 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
I see the Tree widget supports a hilitedElement property, which is useful for managing the 
selection in the UI.


Is there a one-liner for obtaining not the element path but the value?


I'm using an older version, but here the hilitedElement includes the values of each element in 
the path.




I misunderstood, you don't mean just the names of the elements. The value shows up as part of 
the tree unless you turn off "show values". I think you'll have to parse the array to actually 
get the values in a leaf.


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Re: Tree Widget: hilitedValue?

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On 7/8/22 12:34 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
I see the Tree widget supports a hilitedElement property, which is useful for managing the 
selection in the UI.


Is there a one-liner for obtaining not the element path but the value?


I'm using an older version, but here the hilitedElement includes the values of each element in 
the path.


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Re: Error message that vector icon widget missing when building iOS standalone

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On 6/22/22 10:10 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:


I've reinstallled the Vectore Icon widget again and the build process was 
successful.
Then i've unloaded the widget and rebuild the standalone again and the build 
was also successful.

But as soon as i uninstall that widget i get that error.


Does anyone have an idea where i can search the complete stack and its 
substacks for that widget?


Btw.: For what exactly is that widget. To be honest i don't have a clue.


I think that's the SVG widget that allows you to use SVG as button icons, or 
any other image.


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Re: Stylistic question.

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Breakpoints work fine in the IDE. But script only stacks do not retain them 
when remote debugging, or at least they didn't for me. Are you talking 
about mobile apps?

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On June 23, 2022 12:05:27 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Hi Jacqueline. I use script only stacks a LOT, and the red dot breakpoints 
are working for me. Try Clear All Breakpoints from the SE Debug menu (I 
think it will only clear breakpoints from open scripts though.) Also in the 
SE under the Breakpoints tab, you can uncheck all the existing breakpoints.


Bob S


On Jun 23, 2022, at 09:59 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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Something must have changed or you use a debugging method different from 
mine. Red dot breakpoints do not work in script only stacks because those 
stacks have no custom properties, which is where breakpoints are kept. I 
couldn't get scripted breakpoints to work either but I may have forgotten 
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Re: Stylistic question.

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Something must have changed or you use a debugging method different from 
mine. Red dot breakpoints do not work in script only stacks because those 
stacks have no custom properties, which is where breakpoints are kept. I 
couldn't get scripted breakpoints to work either but I may have forgotten 
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On June 22, 2022 8:14:45 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
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All of these behaviors are in script-only-stacks. I have zero difficulty
debugging them with the remote debugger.




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Re: Stylistic question.

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I find that too many behavior stacks make it difficult to keep track of 
where things are. But the primary downside is that script-only stacks don't 
work with remote debugging. That's a big drawback for me since most of my 
apps these days are for mobile. I do use behaviors quite a bit, but I put 
the scripts into buttons so they can be debugged remotely. Or maybe you 
mean you use regular stacks for behaviors? Those would work.


The switch construct is way more flexible than if/then and much cleaner to 
read and track. I use them all the time. They're especially useful when you 
want to group several conditionals. What don't you like about them? Just 
curious.


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On June 22, 2022 8:49:51 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
 wrote:



For an example like a session during LCG, throwing everything into a single
script can make it easier to see everything, together, however,
I absolutely, always, without exception, do this:
1) Every object that needs to do something gets its own handler, unless
there is some reason to allow the behavior to pass up the chain. This
situation is not one of them.
2) I don't use scripts, at all, ever. Every handler is in a behavior stack.
3) I don't ever use switch. I can't stand it. If I had to write something
like the above, I would do something like
put the short name of the target into snot
if snot is "first" then
 doCommandFirst
else if snot is "another"
 doCommandAnother
else if snot is "lastnotleast"
 doCommandLastNotLeast
else # uh oh
 answer "ruh roh."
end if # snot is "first"

this assumes that the names of the handlers I would be calling are not
named like the ones in the example, because if they were, you could also
put the short name of the target into snot
put "doCommand" & snot into toDo
try
 do toDo
catch e
 answer "ruh roh."
end try

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 4:33 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I've noticed that in a lot of the example code I've seen recently,
there's a bit of a common pattern.

In the card script, there will be code like

on mouseUp
   switch the short name of the target
 case "first"
 doCommandFirst
 break
 case "another"
 doCommandAnother
 break
 case "lastnotleast"
 doCommandlastnotleast
 break
   end switch
end mouseUp

I've seen this in examples from Livecloud, Appli, the WebApp example
from Steven/Michael, and a few other places.

I would generally have put this code in each button (or other control)
directly, and I'm wondering whether there are advantages or preferences
for one of those versus the other.

Thanks for any opinions,

Alex.


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Re: Referencing Livecode

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The same rules apply to US schools. It may be similar to doing a critique 
of Hamlet after reading only the Cliff Notes summary. No actual research or 
thought required.


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On June 17, 2022 11:11:14 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I wonder why that is? While you may find inaccurate information on 
Wikipedia, the vastly overwhelming information there is absolutely 
accurate. But isn't that true of EVERY source? In my life experience I have 
found that settled science is very unsettled indeed. Salt causes high blood 
pressure. Sugar causes diabetes. Red meat causes cancer. Milk is bad. Eggs 
are bad. Coffee is bad. Mercury is a molten ball. Life needs sunlight to 
live. A nuclear blast will render an area unlivable for 10,000 years. I 
could go on and on.


Mankind is constantly revising "settled" science, and well we should, but 
what I object to is being told that what academia is now telling us is the 
new absolute, and I am expected to just accept that.


Bob S


On Jun 17, 2022, at 01:57 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:


From what I know (my wife is a senior academic at a university) references
to Wikipedia pages are academic suicide, fail, go straight to jail, do not
pass GO, do not collect 200 smackers, and you get the picture.



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Re: Referencing Livecode

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Is there a reason not to use the LC site URL, either alone or in addition 
to the Wikipedia one?


Re: the errors, they look like examples of functions that would return 
"false" but I haven't seen them in context.

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On June 16, 2022 8:33:45 AM David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
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Hi Folks,

I am writing a paper for publication (I hope) describing analysis of 
internet predator messages achieved using Livecode.


I want to reference LC but I am not sure if there is a standard form or URL 
for doing this.  If not I am inclined to use 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveCode


Any alternative suggestions?

David Glasgow

PS Also, while trying to find a suitable URL I came across the ‘Cheat 
Sheets’ page and PDFs, and stumbled on a couple of errors in the just LC 
one… not sure who to alert.


// String

"foo" & "bar" is "foobar" "foo" && "bar" is "foo bar" "str" begins with "st"
"str" ends with "g"

// Chunks

char 5 of "str" is "n"
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Re: Would anyone miss convertOctals?

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I may be dreaming, but didn't you mention that using "the" before a 
property name would be required? That will throw a lot of people who've 
become used to omitting that.


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On June 10, 2022 2:46:46 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
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In terms of other things which are 'on the block' - then no explicit
features per-se but there are a couple of extreme 'edge cases' which
will likely be removed.





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Re: Generating Random numbers to conform a distribution

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Eeww. But you're safe, I didn't plant any tomatoes.

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On June 8, 2022 10:51:39 AM Devin Asay via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I think Jacque has germaniums in her garden!



On Jun 7, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:


On 6/7/22 20:24, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
I don't have an answer. But apparently it's a common problem:
https://xkcd.com/2626/

Chortle.

Back in the day I would generate a random number by back-biasing a 
germanium diode and hook it up to an analog-to-digital converter. Great 
white noise generator too.


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Re: Generating Random numbers to conform a distribution

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I don't have an answer. But apparently it's a common problem:

https://xkcd.com/2626/

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On June 7, 2022 3:53:37 PM David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
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Quite a lot of stats and maths packages offer a feature whereby the N, the 
Mean and the SD are variables specified by the user, and N random numbers 
are then generated with the required mean and SD.

...

In general terms, how do they do this?





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Re: Substacks

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Just to clarify, are they real substacks or do you mean they are separate 
stacks that you include in the build? Also, double check that standalone 
settings isn't set up to move substacks into separate files. I think that 
option is in the general pane but I'm not at my computer to check.

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On May 29, 2022 6:05:08 AM General 2018 via use-livecode 
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Still no luck, no closestack handler in “main stack” , tried the other 
suggestions with hide/show etc. But still “mainstack” quits on closing the 
“substack xyz”


Will keep looking……..

Regards

On 29 May 2022, at 00:12, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
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On 5/28/22 07:15, General 2018 via use-livecode wrote:

Hi ,
New to substacks - I have a “mainstack” used as a menu page for 2x “substacks”
When “substacks” opened from “mainstack” they open fine using — go to stack 
“xyz”
The problem is closing of the “substacks” using - close stack, go to 
“mainstack” or close this stack it always closes (quit) everything. Need 
“mainstack” to reappear/remain ?

Looked at docs and other posts. But stuck no doubt I have missed something.


Do you have a closeStack handler in the script of the mainstack?


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Re: Substacks

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In an app, the mainstack is the home stack. If it's closed and no other 
stack is open then the app will quit. But if you open a substack, the app 
can't quit because the substack is part of the stackfile but the mainstack 
is still marked as closed. So the trick is not to close the mainstack, just 
hide it instead when you open the substack. When you close the substack, 
show the mainstack.


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On May 28, 2022 2:42:24 PM General 2018 via use-livecode 
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Thanks for the tip but still no good.

So button in “xyz” substack with close stack “xyz” still closes all ?

Regards Camm

On 28 May 2022, at 17:29, Thomas von Fintel via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hi,

did you try  close stack "xyz" ? Thias works for me, in the IDE at least, 
both if called from the mainstack and from the substack. Only the substack 
is closed.


Livecode 9.6.7 and Windows 10


Hope this helps

Thomas



Am 28.05.2022 um 16:15 schrieb General 2018 via use-livecode:
Hi ,

New to substacks - I have a “mainstack” used as a menu page for 2x “substacks”

When “substacks” opened from “mainstack” they open fine using — go to stack 
“xyz”


The problem is closing of the “substacks” using - close stack, go to 
“mainstack” or close this stack it always closes (quit) everything. Need 
“mainstack” to reappear/remain ?


Looked at docs and other posts. But stuck no doubt I have missed something.

Livecode 9.6.6 and Win 10

Regards
Cam
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Re: HTML font size in percentages

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On 5/25/22 6:36 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
Anyway, here is the routine, While it works, if I was rewriting it, I would probably just do a 
loop with a match to the html font size attribute. This code does ensure that the size can't go 
below a minimum where LC's legacy font size values actually make the text bigger.


Thanks so much, very helpful. It's close to what I was thinking of doing. The other alternative 
is looping through style runs in the styledText property. The text I'm dealing with is pretty 
long, so I'll do some tests to see which method is faster.


Thanks again,

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Re: HTML font size in percentages

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Thanks for verifying it Paul, that's what I was thinking too. I'm looking at replacing the 
sizes via the style runs, I have a handler Mark Waddingham gave me/us on the list last year 
that I think I can modify.


But I'd be grateful to see yours too. No big hurry, I just need to get an idea of how to 
estimate my time at this point. Thank you very much.



On 5/20/22 2:08 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

You have to do replacement of the size value in the field's htmlText (or 
perhaps styledText)

I have code that does this. I can provide it to you if you like. I don't claim it is the bets 
or most effiecent. Unfortunately, I am gone for the rest of today, s tomorrow is the earliest I 
could send code to you.




On 5/20/2022 12:32 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
I have a field whose HTMLtext is set to a heavily tagged HTML file that changes the font size 
repeatedly. We want to allow the user to adjust the size of the text. The easiest way would 
be to use percentages for the font sizes so that changing the field's textsize would change 
the markup proportionally, but LC fields don't seem to support that. Is there a trick or do I 
need to do a series of replacements? I'm afraid that will be too slow, there's a lot of text.


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Re: HTML font size in percentages

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On 5/20/22 11:45 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote:

It sounds like the HTML tags are setting the size for runs of text in the 
field, so you can’t just set the textSize of the field?


I did try setting the text size of the field, and all untagged chunks reflect the new size as 
expected (default field text is 20 points.) But there are exceptions embedded in the text that 
require superscripts and/or other sizes for chapter headings and other things. It looks like this:


TEXT HERE shift="-6">TEXT HERETEXT HERETEXT 
HERETEXT HERE, ETC ETC


The text is too long for a single field so I'm using Trevor's dataView (thank you so much 
Trevor!) The text sizes and superscripts are footnotes, references, and other supplementary 
info. They are scattered liberally around in the text.


Untagged text responds well to the field text size, which I can easily change in the dataView 
template. But the superscripts text size and offset, and other changes do not because they are 
specifically indicated with integers. If I could use percentages, then changing the field text 
size would proportionally change everything else. But percentages don't work in my tests.


I wish we could use CSS in LC fields, but it isn't supported. I can't use any type of browser 
because we need features that a browser doesn't support.




Are there varying sizes of text runs in the field? Could you set the textSize 
of the char 1 to -1 of the field to empty, then set it for the whole field? In 
one project I’ve implemented a feature similar to what Bob was talking about 
where I increment the textSize of the field by 1 point using Cmd/Cntl + or -.


This is a mobile app, so no keyboard is available. It's been in the app stores for about a year 
but our main complaint from users is that the text is too small on a phone. We'd like to fix 
that. The choice of font size would be a setting in user prefs and the text would accomodate 
that whenever the app runs.



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Re: HTML font size in percentages

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The text has to be in a field for lots of reasons. Browsers and widgets are 
too limited.

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On May 20, 2022 11:40:12 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I know that typically cmd +/- (or ctrl for Win) will increase or decrease 
the zoom of a web page. You can try that, or else use a browser widget. (I 
wonder if that trick would work in a widget?? It should...)


Bob S


On May 20, 2022, at 09:32 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I have a field whose HTMLtext is set to a heavily tagged HTML file that 
changes the font size repeatedly. We want to allow the user to adjust the 
size of the text. The easiest way would be to use percentages for the font 
sizes so that changing the field's textsize would change the markup 
proportionally, but LC fields don't seem to support that. Is there a trick 
or do I need to do a series of replacements? I'm afraid that will be too 
slow, there's a lot of text.


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HTML font size in percentages

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I have a field whose HTMLtext is set to a heavily tagged HTML file that 
changes the font size repeatedly. We want to allow the user to adjust the 
size of the text. The easiest way would be to use percentages for the font 
sizes so that changing the field's textsize would change the markup 
proportionally, but LC fields don't seem to support that. Is there a trick 
or do I need to do a series of replacements? I'm afraid that will be too 
slow, there's a lot of text.


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Re: Movie text tracks

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Or you could use an OS 9 emulator like SheepShaver where the old version of QT 
is available.



On 5/17/22 1:02 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:

Here's a thought:

Dig out an old mac that runs, say, MacOS 10.6 or 10.7 and then follow this:

https://synchrimedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/extracting-qt-text-tracks-from-movies.html

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Re: Sqlite and Monterey on M1

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On 5/12/22 1:01 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

on the Mac we have write permissions here -> specialFolderPath("preferences")
Works on Monterey as well and is "out of sight" of the user. ;-)


Am 12.05.2022 um 19:56 schrieb Bob Sneidar via 
use-livecode:

Sandboxing. I don't think the latest Apple operating systems allow the writing 
to the App Support folder,


That's kind of strange, since Mac OS provides the Application Support folder specifically for 
apps to store their data. Has that changed?


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Re: Native Android input field

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Yes, that would be ideal. Let's see what the Great Reimagining brings.

In the chat I remember saying I couldn't use the widget but I couldn't 
remember why. The unexpected keyboard display was the reason. And unlike a 
normal LC field, you can't set it to allow copying without also allowing 
editing.


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On April 28, 2022 4:04:31 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
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The circumstance I introduced in the chat was something far more common: 
just scrolling a field, a normal non-editable LC field used to display text.




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Native Android input field

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In the after-party that Richard set up on the last day of the conference, the question came up 
whether the native Android field widget would scroll. The answer is, yes it does.


There is one little glitch. If the widget is editable, and your finger lifts inside the widget 
after scrolling, the keyboard pops up. If you end the scroll while your finger is outside the 
field area, it does not.


This doesn't happen if the field is not editable. Also in either case, the scroll isn't as 
smooth as it is when constructed in a script.




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Re: devcon 2022 recap

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Same here, I'm really looking forward to seeing the iterations of the new 
IDE and features as they happen. The future looks very bright and I want to 
be there.


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On April 28, 2022 10:41:12 AM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
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I was so impressed especially by the planned new features of LC that i 
subscribed right away to the upcoming  LC Global 22/23 which starts in May 
this year.
https://livecode.com/global/global2022/ 






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Re: Single Window LC IDE?

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In a later session they said it was just a mock up at this point. When 
asked about supporting multiple monitors they said it would, and they'd 
need to consider tear-off windows.


I like the new look very much, but most of us old timers have specific 
requirements which LC agrees they want to accommodate.

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On April 27, 2022 8:20:01 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
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yeah, well, they not only discussed it, but they demo'd it, and seemed to
be amped about it, so i'm concerned.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 5:59 PM doc hawk via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


tom tumbled,

>I wouldn't worry that they will pigeon-hole the ide in that way.
>That would be madness.

Was it StarOffie 4 (or 5?) that shipped such madness?

I recall it being *utterly* unusable, and staying with the prior version.

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Re: optionKeyDown message broken

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On 4/21/22 10:55 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

In a new stack, place the following in the card script:

on optionKeyDown pKeyName
   if platform() = "MacOS" then
     put numToChar(charToNum(pKeyName)-128) into tKey1 -- original sample from 
Dictionary
     put numToCodePoint(codepointToNum(pKeyName)-128) into tKey2 -- trying using non-deprecated 
functions

     answer pKeyName,tKey1,tKey2
   else -- windows
     answer pKeyName
   end if
end optionKeyDown


The equivalent new functions for numToChar and charToNum is numToNativeChar and 
nativeCharToNum. Those return the same values as the originals. However, I'm still getting the 
wrong result. I can subtract 94 to get lower-case "f" but that isn't consistent; the amount to 
subtract varies depending on the value of pKeyName. So there's some trick I'm missing.


Tested on Mac.

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Re: Pixel 5

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On 4/20/22 4:58 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
All this time I thought Apple's message for orgs making apps for internal use was to use 
Android. I sometimes do medical apps, where iOS is strongly represented. I'd love it if Apple 
has a way to beat Android for ease of deployment.


The best you can do is to use Apple's corporate distribution. It allows up to a certain number 
of employees who can install your app in-house. The license is expensive.


For people like us, no dice.

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Re: Pixel 5

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You don't know what you're missing. :) There's so little freedom over on 
the other side. I could never go back.



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On April 16, 2022 10:07:48 PM doc hawk via use-livecode 
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For some reason, I feel a sudden urge to sprinkle my doorstep with Holy 
Water . . .




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Re: Encountering slow navigation to a card containing very large fields? Do this one simple trick.

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So fields are snakes and datagrids are mice.

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On April 16, 2022 6:32:19 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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The Datagrid eats the Elephant, “One Bite At a Time.” The field tries to 
eat the Elephant all at once.




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Pixel 5

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If anyone is interested in acquiring a Pixel 5 please contact me.

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Re: Standalone Error Dialog

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Double check the files in the Copy Files pane of the standalone settings 
and make sure that the file paths are correct. I'm not aware of a log file 
for the builder.


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On April 12, 2022 4:19:16 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Hi all.

Some time ago I began getting an error dialog reporting:

1 File to include in standalone not found: ""

This apparently is not causing any issues that I have found, but I would 
sure like to find out what is causing it and stop it.


Is there a Standalone Builder log I can look at?

Bob S


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Re: Mobile Image Editing

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I'm not sure I understand. When you "downsize" do you mean you're scaling? Or are you creating 
a new image? Or cropping the original?


On 4/7/22 9:11 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

Greetings list people!

I am currently working on a project where we will be editing images on a
mobile device.  I'm running into an issue where the formatted height and
width of the image change.  Most of the images are natively 1600x1200 but
we initially display them scaled to fit on the screen.  When the user does
any edit action at a zoomed out level, the image is downsized to the
current zoom.  Once downsized, if you zoom in on the image and edit, the
formatted size doesn't change.

Is there any way around this?  What we would really like is to edit the
image and keep it at the full resolution.

We are currently using the native LiveCode paint/bucket tools.  Although
most of my testing is in the IDE at the moment, we do use resize handlers
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Re: drawingSvgCompileIcon(pIconName) always BLACK

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On 4/6/22 11:13 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Am 06.04.2022 um 17:59 schrieb J. Landman Gay via 
use-livecode:

The IDE supports importing SVG images from the Import As Control menu. Does 
that work any differently?

not tested (yet).

just tested and THAT works!?


There must be more to it than just running drawingSvgCompileIcon, but I can't 
recall what it is.

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Re: drawingSvgCompileIcon(pIconName) always BLACK

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The IDE supports importing SVG images from the Import As Control menu. Does 
that work any differently?


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On April 6, 2022 8:36:29 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
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Just made a test and it looks like the resulting images from
drawingSvgCompileIcon(pIconName) cannot even be screenshot-ted!?
Results in a greyish rectangle? WTF?

Tried as PNG and JPEG.

see screenshot here:


Am 06.04.2022 um 15:23 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:


Hi all,

drawingSvgCompileIcon(pIconName) is really great,
but the resulting images are always black.

I can of course add a "color overlay" but when I use them as
"imagesource" it uses the original black images.

Any hints on how to add color to them when using them
as "imagesource" in a field without screenshotting them or
exporting them, add color in an image editing app and
reimport them as images?

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Re: Thank you

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On 3/30/22 3:36 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

On Mar 30, 2022, at 12:16 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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On 3/30/22 11:21 AM, Guillaume Hédieu via use-livecode wrote:

Thank you for your "welcome". I'm pleased to see that there is a community
around Livecode :)


The best thing about our community is that we don't tolerate trolls,


AHEM! I'm sitting right here!


We tolerate the cute ones.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/264877334138>

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Re: Thank you

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On 3/30/22 11:21 AM, Guillaume Hédieu via use-livecode wrote:

Thank you for your "welcome". I'm pleased to see that there is a community
around Livecode :)


The best thing about our community is that we don't tolerate trolls, so everyone here is kind 
and helpful. And we love to support each other, so ask anything and someone will answer. No 
question is too silly.


A big welcome to you.

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Re: IDE bait and switch ;-)

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On 3/26/22 10:26 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

An now I really want LC, Ltd. to add a "with tIndex" syntax to the repeat for 
each loop structure!


That would be awesome. Feature request, maybe?

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Re: destroystack/destroywindow not working?

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I've seen this occasionally, where the mainstack is removed but the substacks are still in the 
list of available stacks. I think the IDE list of stacks in memory isn't updated correctly 
unless all substacks are marked as destroyed. At least, that's what it looks like.



On 3/21/22 6:46 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all,

I have a stack with its destroystack/destroywindow
properties set to true.

When I close it and open another stack which has a
substack with ther same name as a substack of the
previous stack, I get this really annoying dialog:
"A stack with that name is already in memory..."

Shouldn't setting destroystack/destroywindow prevent this?
Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of these props?



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Re: ArrayEncode/Decode broken??

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On 3/19/22 3:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I’m so embarrassed.


I was too but I caught myself before I hit the Send button. We get so used to LC reading our 
minds we're surprised when it doesn't.


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Re: ArrayEncode/Decode broken??

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I made the same mistake a while ago, until I remembered that the encoded 
array is binary. You have to write and read it to/from a binary file. If 
you just use "open file" you get text only.


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On March 18, 2022 6:40:40 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
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Hi all.

I'm running 9.6.7 rc2. I have this code in a closeStackRequest handler:

  put the settings of me into tSettingsA
  put field "fldEAFilePath" into tSettingsA ["eafilepath"]
  put field "fldInvFilePath" into tSettingsA ["invfilepath"]
  put field "fldOutFilePath" into tSettingsA ["Outfilepath"]
  put the dgText [true] of group "dgVariance" into tSettingsA ["gridtext"]
  put arrayEncode(tSettingsA) into tSettingsText
  put the filename of this stack into tSettingsPath
  set the itemDelimiter to "/"
  put "settings.prefs" into item -1 of tSettingsPath
  open file tSettingsPath for write
  write tSettingsText to file tSettingsPath
  close file tSettingsPath

Then in the openStack handler I have this:

  put the filename of this stack into tSettingsPath
  set the itemDelimiter to "/"
  put "settings.prefs" into item -1 of tSettingsPath
  open file tSettingsPath for read
  read from file tSettingsPath until eof
  put it after tSettingsText
  close file tSettingsPath
  put arrayDecode(tSettingsText) into tSettingsA
  set the settings of me to tSettingsA

Instead of an array, I get the text "gr" which is the first 2 characters of 
the key "grid text" in the array. That can't be right!


Bob S


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Re: Text overwriting itself in non wrapping field

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On 3/18/22 6:02 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode wrote:

However, looking more closely there are 3 visible characters where cr should 
be.   They are â9u except 9u is constant and the first character is almost 
always there, but varies wildly.  Often an underscore but also accented a, e or 
u.  Even more weirdly, if I search the field for ‘9u', several lines are found, 
but not any in the mutant line.

And yet more weirdly again, when the line is displayed in a field with wrap 
true, the weird three characters appear at the beginning of ‘new lines’ except 
they are not actually new lines because they highlight as a single block.  An 
invisible form feed?  or something else between 9 and u  that a wrapping field 
decides is a wrap point but confuses the hell out of a non-wrapping field?


The text came from a server, right? This sounds like it may be a text encoding issue. It's 
likely UTF8, so try textDecode(tText,"UTF8") and see if that resolves it.


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Re: How to access scripts on a modal card that is stuck / not visible?

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Modes are only for stacks and can't be used for individual cards. It sounds 
like the whole stack is going modal. There are several ways to edit a 
script for a control.


1. Click the script lines in the project browser, or right click the 
control in the app browser and choose "edit script".

2. In the message box: edit script of . I.e., edit script of btn 1
3. Turn off messages in the toolbar. Then you can edit scripts as usual.
4. Choose the edit tool, right click the control, choose to edit the script.
5. If the stack is already in modal mode, use the message box to: toplevel 
. Or Cmd-Opt-Shift click the stack and choose toplevel from the 
Mode menu item. (I assume on Windows that's control-alt-shift.)


There are also other keyboard shortcuts but those should get you started. 
Since the mode doesn't change unless you click the button, you should be 
able to edit the script normally if you don't do that.


You can display a substack as a modal login, or use a group on the current 
card.


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On March 18, 2022 5:31:04 AM Keith Clarke via use-livecode 
 wrote:


1. What’s the syntax needed to open the script of an un-open object via the 
message box, so I can break out of this loop?
2. Can anyone please suggest a worked example or lesson of a pop-up web 
service login dialogue, as I’m clearly doing something basic wrong!





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Re: Compiler Funding Options Update

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Anyone on the fence should decide pretty quick, as of now there are less 
than 6 hours left to contribute.

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On March 17, 2022 8:11:29 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode 
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Thanks Bob, I'm sure it will be honored.
This is pretty important for livecode itself, I hope a way will be found
even if target is not met.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 6:35 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I originally popped for $198, but I just paid for a year's subscription.
If I do not get the $198 back, oh well.

Bob S


> On Mar 16, 2022, at 17:57 , Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Well...I threw in $100 to help make it happen...fingers crossed.
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 8:53 PM Tom Glod  wrote:
>
>> I see the page I had bookmarked has a "-page" at the end of slug.
>>
>> https://livecode.com/script-compiler-project-page/
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 7:27 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/16/22 5:46 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> When I go ot the page I only see the 3 options how do I get to the
>>> $99
>>>> option?
>>>
>>> I see six options. Do you have any plugins that might disable some of
the
>>> javascript, or
>>> similar? Try a different browser, maybe?
>>>
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