Re: friday ha ha

2006-04-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
On 4/19/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexandre Poitras wrote: > > On 4/19/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Dave Newton wrote: > >> > >>>Jonathan Revusky wrote: > >>>

Re: [shale] RuntimeException rather than a 404

2006-04-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Yeah definitely seems like a bug to me. On 4/19/06, Richard Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it was a subview I would agree. But this is the root view which is > why I'm surprised by the behaviour. > > Rich > > Alexandre Poitras wrote: > > Well if

Re: [shale] RuntimeException rather than a 404

2006-04-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
(ApplicationFilterChain.java:252) > ... > > > I'm using a nightly from 20060313 so forgive me if this is fixed in the > latest code. If not, can I file a bug? > > Thanks, > Rich > > --------- >

Re: friday ha ha

2006-04-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
On 4/19/06, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan Revusky wrote: > > Dave Newton wrote: > >> If it _didn't_ make somebody shudder I'd seriously question their > >> overall programming knowledge... at some point you have to start over. > > > > Well, that's one assessment. OTOH, it is pro

Re: friday ha ha

2006-04-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
evusky > -- > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > > > > > > (But an interesting *shudder* I'll admit... *ponder*) > > > > Dave > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Some questions

2006-04-06 Thread Alexandre Poitras
vice coming from this user-list is usually very confusing. I guess > > >>the > > >>moderator never reads or filters the content. > > >> > > >>On 4/5/06, Hey Nony Moose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > > > >

Re: Login with roles

2006-04-06 Thread Alexandre Poitras
orizeAction command. > > * http://tinyurl.com/m255a > > Another popular solution is the SecurityFilter. > > * http://securityfilter.sourceforge.net/ > > HTH, Ted. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [

Re: Why did Struts development stagnate?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
t does not mean you don't improve. There is > nothing incompatible between being stable and being innovative and > changing. In fact, if a code base does not keep up, it is unstable. A code > base is not stable if you cannot count on it for the future. > > On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poit

Re: Why did Struts development stagnate?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ndre, why you think this is a contradiction. Could you > please point that out? > > On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You lack memory Dakota, here's what you just wrote yesterday : > > > > "The hullabaloo, Larry, is about the stabi

Re: Why did Struts development stagnate?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
> go through a process of deprecation. > > > > On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Don't bother about him Bart. I said it and I will say it again, he is > > > a troll. I tried to have a constructive discussion with him s

Re: Why did Struts development stagnate?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
er this > question. Backward compatibility is never a reason to trash a product. You > go through a process of deprecation. > > On 3/30/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Don't bother about him Bart. I said it and I will say it again, he is

Re: [Shale] When to create a database Connection?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ntln("Exception:" + e.getMessage()); > > e.printStackTrace(); > > } finally { > > try { > > if (ps != null) { > > ps.close(); > > } > > } catch (SQLException e) { > > e.printStackTrace(); > > } > > } > > return result; > > } > > } > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why did Struts development stagnate?

2006-03-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
, please > explain your point of view so us mere > mortals can actually learn something rather than being all smug and > superior on people who dissagree with > you. > > Thanks, > > Bart. > > ---------

Re: Debate and Free Speech 101

2006-03-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
- pretending that they didn't > understand that it was an allusion to the XXX for Dummies book series. > So I changed it "for Dummies" to 101 at the last minute before sending it. > > > > Check it out of SVN, fix it, and use it. If you are so darn > > smart, we will all be begging to use it i

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
is a very good product by the way. On 3/20/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You said it came from Struts. Jeesch` > > > On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > These distinctions bo back before Java i

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
re not Struts progeny. I have programmed in Smalltalk and used Swing API in the past so I have don't narrow my point of view to my Struts experience indeed. -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
On 3/20/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was not talking about you. I was talking about JSF. JSF is well known > for being for tools. Read your own citations. > It is? Or was it just one goal among many others? > On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
mini design pattern, design pattern, you name them. Sorry but once again you are just taking the part you want. > > On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't agree with you FacesServlet is a pure front controller, Faces > > lacks an

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
e that the will of the majority would be > done no matter what. > > Frank > > -- > Frank W. Zammetti > Founder and Chief Software Architect > Omnytex Technologies > http://www.omnytex.com > AIM: fzammetti > Yahoo: fzammetti > MSN: [EM

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
reasoning. I am not against JSF, never have > been. > > > On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/20/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > JSF is built for those who are > > > technically challenged an

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandre Poitras
t under Struts Umbrella because it's focus is not on the application controller. Well I got to go work soon and this post is already long enough but I will post later the reasons why I choose JSF over Tapestry if you are still interested in. > > > > On 3/19/06, Alexandre Poitras <[E

Re: [shale] how MyFaces's component do layout

2006-03-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
be h:subview or other component? > > Thanks > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ay. I will follow. > I felt that this was pretty safe, but if you have some contrary > opinions, please roll them out and I will be more than happy to > address your concerns. If you don't have anything specific, then I am > not interested. > > On 3/19/06, Alexandre Poitra

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Hey that's look like a very good book Gary. I was looking for something new to read so maybe I'll give it a try. Thank :) On 3/19/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Alexandre Poitras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > You keep say

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-19 Thread Alexandre Poitras
> to become a permanent volunteer by an existing group of > > permanent > > > > > > > volunteers, and as a result is given some degree of authority to > > > > make > > > > > > > decisions that will affect those that come to the shelter, then > > I > > > > > > > think there is definitely a higher level of responsibility to > > that > > > > > > > "community" of homeless, as well of course to the other > > permanent > > > > > > > volunteers. Again, as I've said all along, the degree of extra > > > > > > > responsibility I think is debatable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your original analogy, the volunteer would be someone like > > > > me. In > > > > > > > my modified version, they would be a committer. At least in my > > > > eyes, > > > > > > > there is a difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analogy though, you definitely made me think and > > evaluate > > > > my > > > > > > > position, I appreciate that! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > > back." > > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." > ~Dakota Jack~ > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Struts CMS ?

2006-03-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ly > integrated into Struts based systems ? > > Presently trying to get things working with lenya. > > -Shanky > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

Re: [FRIDAY] Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-18 Thread Alexandre Poitras
inal analogy, the volunteer would be someone like me. In > > > > > my modified version, they would be a committer. At least in my eyes, > > > > > there is a difference. > > > > > > > > > > Excellent analogy though, you definitely made me think and evaluate my > > > > > position, I appreciate that! :) > > > > > > > > > >> Steve > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Book recommendation requested: Object-Oriented Analysis and Design

2006-03-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
second on that. > Larman is great. Best introduction book I have ever red. Big +1! > > Regards > Thor > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-ma

Re: [shale] Images and css being rejected

2006-01-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
k. Any > ideas what I'm missing this time? > > Thanks, > Rich > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [JSF] history list support (Back/Forward buttons)

2006-01-25 Thread Alexandre Poitras
premise that DispatchAction behaves like controller ;-) > > > The view state contains a tree > > of the components on the page. This is why the restore view is > > needed for handling a post of the page. > > Ok, to post to a component I must have component present, which is why > component is saved in a tree.

Re: [shale] testing

2006-01-16 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I will stick with the traditional approach and use Shale test package but if some people had experience with them and Shale test package I would like to hear your experience. Thank! Sorry for the long post :) On 1/16/ 06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/16/06, Alexandre

Re: [shale] testing

2006-01-16 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Ok I'm coming back after having done some reading. From what I understand it's seem the shale test framework provides you stub objects but they aren't true mock objects as in EasyMock or jMocks. Am I correct? On 1/16/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, &

[shale] testing

2006-01-16 Thread Alexandre Poitras
couldn't find anything. So I hope there are some unit testing zealots around here. Thank for your answers -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: need help in tomhawk calendar

2006-01-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
l be implied or assumed unless the sender does so expressly with > due authority of 3i Infotech. Before opening any attachments please check > them for viruses and defects." > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-12 Thread Alexandre Poitras
On 1/12/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexandre Poitras wrote: > > I agree with you Michael since our designer is a big fan of Zen Garden > > and I must say I don't miss working with tables :) I would like a > > strict XHTML rendererkit but I must sa

Re: need Calendar in JSF

2006-01-12 Thread Alexandre Poitras
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Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
; > > Sure sounds a lot like a canonical example program that's been around here > > > for a few years ... Struts MailReader :-). > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice bet ween Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
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Re: [OT] Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
; happy to do that as well if it makes you feel better. > > If you'd like to meet in person to discuss this issue I'm happy to oblige. > > And yes, I posted this to the group rather than you personally, because: > > a) you won't talk to me directly > b) y

Re: [OT] Getting started is confusing [was] Re: Need advice between Shale or Struts-Faces

2006-01-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
a LOT of it. > I just wish there was some kind of effort to bring a lot of this > together into one 'framework' - I know this goes against a lot of the > open source thinking, but if Shale is that useful, which I believe it > is, I'd like to see maybe absorbed into something like MyFaces.. is that > a possibility? It's just confusing about what you truly need to get to > be productive. > > > -- > Rick > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: building Struts w/ maven

2006-01-11 Thread Alexandre Poitras
alAndHandleFailures > (DefaultLifecycleExecuto > r.java:303) > at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.executeTaskSegments > (DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:27 > 0) > at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.DefaultLifecycleExecutor.execute( > DefaultLifecycleExecutor.java:139) > at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute(DefaultMaven.java:322) > at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute(DefaultMaven.java:115) > at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main(MavenCli.java:249) > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke( > NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) > at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke( > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) > at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launchEnhanced(Launcher.java:315) > at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.launch(Launcher.java:255) > at org.codehaus.classworlds.Launcher.mainWithExitCode(Launcher.java:430) > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-10 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Sorry to repost this, but I wanted to know if I was the only one facing this difficulty and if it's the case how to avoid it. Any thougts? On 1/8/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a small correction below : > > On 1/8/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAI

Re: formatting messages in different colours

2006-01-09 Thread Alexandre Poitras
this email/fax in error, please notify the sender by > replying to this message and deleting this email or destroying this > facsimile immediately. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-08 Thread Alexandre Poitras
efering to : http://www.irian.at/myfaces/panelnavigation_2.jsp.source On 1/8/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a couple of comments intermixed below. > > On 1/7/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ok can we all ignore th

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-08 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Just a small correction below : On 1/8/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am developping a navigation panel like the panel2 from tomahawk (I > had to offer some more features) and I like the way you can embedd > some navigation items tags (NavigationItem, Navigati

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-07 Thread Alexandre Poitras
] > > > > http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/DispatcherView.html > > [3] > > > > http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/FrontController.html > > > > > > > -- > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." > ~Dakota Jack~ > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Advice for Struts expert wanting to try Shale?

2006-01-07 Thread Alexandre Poitras
g demo program, which is > > > > > > not in a > > > > > > shape that I'm quite ready to check in yet :-). > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I'll hold off worrying about Shale for now. Sounds like I can > > > > > work it in easily

Re: Struts - tomcat j_security_check

2005-12-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
development effort. Some comments below. On 12/30/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of clarifications below. > > On 12/30/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was in charge of implementing application security last

Re: Struts - tomcat j_security_check

2005-12-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
se help me on this. I am stuck on this for a long time. > > > > Thanks > > bib > > > > > > - > > Yahoo! Shopping > > Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Sho

Re: How does Shale affect my Struts development

2005-12-29 Thread Alexandre Poitras
roach is > > to build a simple Struts app and convert it, or what steps I need to > > take in order to be prepared and keep my skill set where it needs to > > be. > > > > Regards > > > > -------

Re: Discussion forum software -- open source

2005-12-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I could be wrong btw. I haven't used it in one year. From the site, it looks like it has changed this part. On 12/28/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's the only one I know but it has some weird technological choices : > http://www.mvnforum.com/mvnforu

Re: Discussion forum software -- open source

2005-12-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
/05, Jonnalagadda, Sumithra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to use struts menu in shale?

2005-12-23 Thread Alexandre Poitras
i Infotech. Before opening any attachments please check > them for viruses and defects." > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [.do -> JSF/Shale]

2005-12-21 Thread Alexandre Poitras
n url and menu elements. I guess it is the right answer but it is still confusing to me right now. On 12/21/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/21/05, Hubert Rabago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 12/21/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [.do -> JSF/Shale]

2005-12-21 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ect everything to be coherent. Of course, I can be wrong! On 12/21/05, Hubert Rabago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/21/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think bookmarks are a bad idea in web applications even when not built > > with Ajax. After al

Re: [JSF/Shale] Controller returning null

2005-12-21 Thread Alexandre Poitras
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Re: [.do -> JSF/Shale]

2005-12-21 Thread Alexandre Poitras
n AJAX world are going to be faced with this > kind of problem no matter what frameworks they are using. What are you > going to do if you end up using an AJAX-style approach that migrates the > entire application into a singe page (which is an architectural style at > one > end of the extremes of what is reasonable with AJAX, but it's definitely > going to need consideration)? > > Craig > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Struts offers "Shale" for JSF

2005-12-16 Thread Alexandre Poitras
es-remoting.html > As this combines the "hottest" topics around (JSF, AJAX) it would be nice to > have a few words about it. > > Thanks > > Bernhard > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Struts offers "Shale" for JSF

2005-12-15 Thread Alexandre Poitras
en scanned by MessageLabs > > __ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan > service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.co

Re: [OT] Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-14 Thread Alexandre Poitras
to use for your > set of task(s) > what alternative framework/technology would you suggest and why? > Merci, > Martin- > - Original Message - > From: "Alexandre Poitras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > Sent: W

Re: [OT] Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-14 Thread Alexandre Poitras
b development > standard at some point, I think there is no doubt it will be a player in > some capacity, so keeping an eye on it and re-evaluating it every so often > is just prudent IMO. > > Frank > > ----------

Re: [OT] Cookie

2005-12-14 Thread Alexandre Poitras
elf." ?? Does that mean that > > the values will be visible in clear text?? How can i check how the data is > > > > getting encrypted over the network?? Do i need to use some tool for it?? > > Actually, before implementing it, i need to tell all the pros and cons for > &g

Re: [OT] Cookie

2005-12-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
lp from net about this issue. So, postin this question > on this group. > I want to know exactly what difference does it make if i set > Cookie.setSecure(true)?? I am using SSL in my application. What are the > advantages or disadvantages of doing it from security point of view. > >

Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Tapestry and even > Ruby on Rails. I just wanted to know if you could write a JSF app today > and be reasonably sure that you could do easy validation on the server, be > relatively efficient in it and not run into major snafus with application > server differences. > > Preston > > >

Re: [OT] Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
easily as you can in Visual Studio, > more people will be on board. Arguably this isn't a good thing though... > it tends to lower the caliber of developer at the same time. But from the > viewpoint of businesses, it's a great thing

Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
uravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/13/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First, it [JSF] is component oriented so it is easier to reuse > > code between applications and easier to understand. > > Struts can be easily made component-oriented. &g

Re: Is JSF ready?

2005-12-13 Thread Alexandre Poitras
licensing and who created the reference implementation I'm > naturally a little skeptical of JSF. Excited, but skeptical. Hopefully > someone can fill me in or at least explain what holes Shale is meant to > fill. > > Preston > > > --------

Re: [Shale] Clay - Parser possible bug

2005-12-07 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Ok the bug seems stricly related to the element. It happens when you put tabs instead of space to between the differents attributes. For example, with pass if the characters between 'a' and 'href' are spaces and not a tab character. On 12/7/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL

[Shale] Clay - Parser possible bug

2005-12-07 Thread Alexandre Poitras
lipse. Seems to have disappear, weird... I'll try to do some more experiements. -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-06 Thread Alexandre Poitras
rticular Clay > template somehow. That would take care of the output side of things, but > how would you propose to handle the decoding of an input component? > > Craig > > > On 12/5/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I see.

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-06 Thread Alexandre Poitras
t possible because a renderer is not a UI component (saved in the view tree). On 12/5/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see. I guess you're right but again I have a problem I have to ship it > as a custom component because this kind of menu is quite common.

Re: [shale] View Controller methods

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
intended recipient, > Please notify the sender and delete all copies. > We may monitor email to and from our network. > > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I am trying to get the grasp on Shale-Clay and establishing some personal "best practices". There are so many possibilities with this component. On 12/5/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/5/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
that some more > > > logic > > > > components might be add in the future (I don't know how many > Tapestry > > > has > > > > but it should give us a good estimation). So I guess putting that in > > > > ClayAmalgam is fine for the moment but it can become bloate

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
n if it was > organized similar to the JSTL libraries (c, fmt, x,..) it would be > bloated. I guess we could break each function out into a separate class. > Then we might have ClayAmalgamImport, ClayAmalgamOut, > ClayAmalgamForEach. Or, make "ClayAmalgam" the managed bean name of a map > in application scope that contains Out, Import and ForEach entries. Maybe > it will be more clear when we have a few more. > > > > > > -- > > Alexandre Poitras > > Québec, Canada > > > > Gary > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [shale] Clay - java.lang.StackOverflowError

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
...). Do you think it a good idea and is it doable? On 12/5/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was using a symbol your right. > > The first page was loading the component page via a symbol. The component > page was looking like this : > component.

Re: [shale] Clay - java.lang.StackOverflowError

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
> > > Hi, > > > > I am using Clay to make a Tile-like template with a deep of 2 levels and > I > > get a java.lang.StackOverflowError. > > Should I increase it size by using the max stack memory size parameter > of > > the jre? Have you someone el

Re: [shale] Clay - java.lang.StackOverflowError

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Ok I got it, I had a recursive component. Sorry about that! On 12/5/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using Clay to make a Tile-like template with a deep of 2 levels and I > get a java.lang.StackOverflowError. > Should I increase it siz

[shale] Clay - java.lang.StackOverflowError

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Hi, I am using Clay to make a Tile-like template with a deep of 2 levels and I get a java.lang.StackOverflowError. Should I increase it size by using the max stack memory size parameter of the jre? Have you someone else got this error before ? -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [Shale] Clay - Links not working

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
e not defined by a bound component using > the jsfid attribute, are considered symbols. > > > > > > The HTML parser normalizes the case of attributes to lower case. The > token replacement is now case insensitive. The example above will now work. > > What is the scenario that you are talking about? Please give an example. > > > -- > > Alexandre Poitras > > Québec, Canada > > > > Gary > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [Shale] Clay - Links not working

2005-12-05 Thread Alexandre Poitras
mponent with a jsfid of " > base.html" in the global file. It couldn't be used as a top level > component. The suffix of the jsfid defines the type of handler. The > suffixes can be overriden with a "context-param" in the web deployment > descriptor. > > We might want to think about this in the future but we probably need to > document what will be in 1.0 first. > > > Gary > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-03 Thread Alexandre Poitras
gt; > Gary > -- Original message -- > > > On 12/3/05, Alexandre Poitras wrote: > > > Yeah but this type of list is not supported unfortunately. I guess I > will > > > have to create a new display for the list component. > > > > >

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-03 Thread Alexandre Poitras
I think they are quite the same cases, the second one being a subset of the former. On 12/3/05, Ryan Wynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/3/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah but this type of list is not supported unfortunately. I guess I >

Re: [shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-03 Thread Alexandre Poitras
de an easy and fast way to developpers to create simple panels without having to write all the Java code and understand the JSF API necessary to create custom components. On 12/2/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/2/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Shale] #{managed-bean-name} always returns 0

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
t; > The new syntax is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was changed to be > consistent with the other symbols. All symbols must be prefixed with an @. > The documentation doesn't reflect this yet. > > > -- > > Alexandre Poitras > > Québec, Canada > > > > Gary > &

[shale] symbols not resolving

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
e component '@contenu' doesn't exist so it's mean my symbols are not resolved. Any ideas of what is wrong??? -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada

Re: [Shale] #{managed-bean-name} always returns 0

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Ok I finally found why. Now you have to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] because it is a symbol. I hope this can help some other people. On 12/2/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like the title says, #{managed-bean-name} is always evaluated to 0. > Any idea why? > -- >

Re: [shale] symbols not resolving

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
ok I found the problem, I was still using an old version of Shale On 12/2/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Me again :) > > I have tried to use symbols like you suggested to built a layout system. > Everything seems to work great except

[Shale] #{managed-bean-name} always returns 0

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
Like the title says, #{managed-bean-name} is always evaluated to 0. Any idea why? -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Shale] Clay - Links not working

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
> I'm planning on making full HTML templating allowed. > > > .. > .. > .. > > > I can see how the Tapestry like "remove" and "content" tags would be handly > here. > > Gary > > > > > > Hermod > > > -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[shale] Clay - Logic components?

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
estry offers the forEach component to solve this problem. Is Shale going to go this way too? Gary any suggestions? -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [

Re: [Shale] Clay - Not serving .css and .png

2005-12-02 Thread Alexandre Poitras
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Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-30 Thread Alexandre Poitras
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Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-29 Thread Alexandre Poitras
e", I guess we should start planning enhancements. > I'm guess that others on the list could tell us the correct Struts protocol > for doing this release planning. > > Gary > > > > > --

Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-29 Thread Alexandre Poitras
tion. The example above gives the > option for creating pages that use the HTML views only (no extra XML configs). > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For addition

Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-29 Thread Alexandre Poitras
approaches even if it's not totally *right* semantically. It would be a lot easier to use in my opinion. Just my two cents. On 11/29/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Clay support something similar to $remove$ and $content$ in > Tapestry? It's great to keep t

Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-29 Thread Alexandre Poitras
That would be outstanding. I've been holding off on Clay documentation for a > couple reasons. I've been spending most of my time with features and I'm > also holding out on some help (someone currently working on a couple of books > besides speaking at the NFJS :-). >

Re: [shale] Clay templating

2005-11-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
read this, feel free to post many details. On 11/28/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get a grasp on Struts Clay. I understand there are 4 > ways of using it and wich one you might want to use depends of the > situation. > > I would

[shale] Clay templating

2005-11-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
roach. Thank -- Alexandre Poitras Québec, Canada - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [shale] JDK requirements

2005-11-28 Thread Alexandre Poitras
OH sorry all the information is provided on the front page. I had looked everywhere but there :) On 11/28/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/28/05, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On the website, it'

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