Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

I am going to do my reply between the paragraphs. So read down till the "end" note. On 02/24/2018 03:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) LibreOffice is not like most programs. It has a large core program with a few tiny modules / satellites / add-ons / plug-ins / apps that kinda plug-in to that

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) LibreOffice is not like most programs. It has a large core program with a few tiny modules / satellites / add-ons / plug-ins / apps that kinda plug-in to that core. Removing one or a handful of those modules does very little to affect the size or complexity of LibreOffice. At least that

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi Tim, > > Robert The custom install as you stated seems to come up in Windows, not > DEB based Linux install, unless you install through the repository, and > package managers like Synaptic. I have never installed LibreOffice on a Windows-system. You could choose the packages under OpenSUSE,

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-24 17:03 GMT+01:00 Tim-L : > On 02/24/2018 05:19 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: > >> On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: >> >> since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. >>> >> Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in >>

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

On 02/24/2018 05:19 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in humanities and have never written a single line of code, but I am a very happy Linux

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) Sorry, i don't know what PYOO is so i have redirected this question back to the LO mailing list - even though it is really a question for Calligra forums/mailing-lists. I've only used their spreadsheets for very straight-forwards sums, to add columns of figures. Is PYOO something that can

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-24 12:23 GMT+01:00 Robert Großkopf : > Hi Henri, > > > > Surprised to hear that the Ubuntu respositories don't provide a complete > LO > > package - I install via the PPA on my Linux Mint machine, which is an > > Ubuntu fork, and get everything, including Math

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi Henri, > > Surprised to hear that the Ubuntu respositories don't provide a complete LO > package - I install via the PPA on my Linux Mint machine, which is an > Ubuntu fork, and get everything, including Math and Base. What gives ?... Every Linux-distribution does allow to install only parts

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-24 11:19 GMT+01:00 Italo Vignoli : > On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: > > > since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. > > Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in > humanities and have never written a single line of

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

On 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a wrote: > since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. Everyone can use Linux, not only developers. I have a degree in humanities and have never written a single line of code, but I am a very happy Linux user and will never switch back to macOS or

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-23 22:27 GMT+01:00 Tim-L : > > Hey Guys. I found two 512MB memory sticks. It now gives me about 800MB > after the shared video memory. > > Did you know that the Ubuntu repositories do not install LO Math with LO? > Found that out about an hour ago. > ​Good

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Since you use Ubuntu the unwanted parts can be uninstalled, or, better, unselected when preparing LO installation Je la 24/02/2018 09:35, zahra a skribis : i wished that LO has one version for home users to not install engineering programs like math, draw, base. i only need writer and have to

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

On 02/24/2018 08:35 AM, zahra a wrote: >to not install engineering programs like math, draw, base. Sounds like you want OOoLight, which is no longer maintained. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

On 02/23/2018 09:27 PM, Tim-L wrote: > Did you know that the Ubuntu repositories do not install LO Math with LO? The last time I installed LibO from the Ubuntu repository, it also left out Base, the Help files, and something else (printing, perhaps.) jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

i wished that LO has one version for home users to not install engineering programs like math, draw, base. i only need writer and have to have one office suite which most features are for engineers, businesses, companies etc. since i am not programmer and cant use linux, i should use xp. On

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hey Guys.  I found two 512MB memory sticks.  It now gives me about 800MB after the shared video memory. Did you know that the Ubuntu repositories do not install LO Math with LO?  Found that out about an hour ago. On 02/23/2018 03:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Yeh, the KDE people put a

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) Sorry, my keyboard is still suffering from when i crunched it's usb-plug. It's still a beautiful keyboard but sometimes gets it's signals a bit muddled. Apols from a Tom :) On 23 February 2018 at 20:40, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Yeh, the KDE people put a serious

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) Yeh, the KDE people put a serious amount of work into it a lot lighter and faster. Initially i only tried it out for a laugh but i was quite flabergasted at how phenomenally slick it had become. Regards from a Tom :) On 23 February 2018 at 18:11, David Burleigh

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

It's interesting to hear of Kubuntu working well on an old machine. When I last tried using it a few years ago, Nepumuk and Aconadi bogged it down so much that it became unusable. On Fri, 2018-02-23 at 16:42 +, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Would Gnome Office (ie Abiword and Gnumeric) be

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) Again, good points. It is much easier to support people using a system that you use yourself. I gave up on using Kubuntu when i no longer had to support anyone using it. It is interesting and has tons of nice features but i just prefer stock Ubuntu for my main use. If i had to support

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

On 02/23/2018 09:43 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2018-02-23 3:02 GMT+01:00 Tim-L >: I am getting an old HP desktop, that originally WinXP, ready to give away. It has 64-bit AMD 3300+ CPU, 512MB ram, and only 160GB drive. 

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

Hi :) Would Gnome Office (ie Abiword and Gnumeric) be better? Also last time i tried distro-hopping on 'old' machines i found that Kubuntu was much faster and lighter-weight than even Lubuntu and Xubuntu. There was a ton of stuff to figure out and apps etc to add o really get the most out of it

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

2018-02-23 3:02 GMT+01:00 Tim-L : > > I am getting an old HP desktop, that originally WinXP, ready to give away. > > It has 64-bit AMD 3300+ CPU, 512MB ram, and only 160GB drive. It was an > original Windows XP 32-bit OS system on a 64-bit hardware. Since it needs >

Re: [libreoffice-users] what version of LO would work on a really old system?

hello. linux support i think did not change in libreoffice newer versions. but libreoffice 5.4 on windows have some issues and bugs on windows xp as i studied bug reports and other websites. not sure about 5.4.4 that works on xp or not, but 5.4.3 works properly. by the way, i have windows xp and

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On that note then, I'd like to record that as an ex-Excel guru and Office trainer, I am permanently delighted by the quality and stunned by the price of LibreOffice. There may be no such thing as a free lunch in Economics, but in the IT world, LO (and of course oOo) are the closest things to a

Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:10:50 +0200 Errol Goetsch er...@xe4.org wrote: [snip] Thank you to the developers who have given so much to so many for so little. [snip] Hear, hear! Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and

Re: Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

+1 On Aug 10, 2014 7:19 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:10:50 +0200 Errol Goetsch er...@xe4.org wrote: [snip] Thank you to the developers who have given so much to so many for so little. [snip] Hear, hear! Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server

Re: Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

Hi :) +1 Also a big thanks to everyone else who helps or has helped, especially those who seldom get any recognition. Regards from Tom :) On 10 August 2014 15:32, J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Aug 10, 2014 7:19 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 8/8/2014 11:15 AM, Pikov Andropov wrote: MSO 2013 is incompatible with itself I think he meant that MSO 2013 isn't fully compatible with MSO2010 o No. I meant that MSO 2013 is completely, utterly, and absolutely incompatible with MSO 2013. Likewise, MSO 2010 is completely,

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 08/08/2014 12:47 PM, Pikov Andropov wrote: Joel Madero wrote on 8/8/2014 12:39 PM: I really just got a little laugh (not following the thread generally) but: Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 8/8/2014 9:59 AM: Everything really depends on you neighbors' needs, and

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 08/08/2014 12:54 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi Pikov, Le 08/08/2014 18:47, Pikov Andropov a écrit : Joel Madero wrote on 8/8/2014 12:39 PM: I really just got a little laugh (not following the thread generally) but: Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 8/8/2014 9:59 AM: Everything

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

At the risk of adding to the political noise... On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:46:12 -0400 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: [snip] For MS Office, the formats ending with x is a problem even for their older version. MSO 2007 might have trouble reading DOCX files created from

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Jim Seymour wrote on 8/9/2014 10:48 AM: At the risk of adding to the political noise... As for home: I solved the entire problem once-and-for-all by replacing my wife's MS-Win install with Linux Mint. (MS-Win8 was the last straw, even for her.) What do you use in place of PowerPoint Viewer?

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:01:27 -0400 Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Seymour wrote on 8/9/2014 10:48 AM: At the risk of adding to the political noise... As for home: I solved the entire problem once-and-for-all by replacing my wife's MS-Win install with Linux Mint. (MS-Win8

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

I use impress. regards, Tomáš Matýs 2014-08-09 18:22 GMT+02:00 Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:01:27 -0400 Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Seymour wrote on 8/9/2014 10:48 AM: At the risk of adding to the political noise...

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Is there a way to get Impress to start in slide-show mode when I click on a PPT icon? Thanks. Tomáš Matýs wrote on 8/9/2014 12:57 PM: I use impress. regards, Tomáš Matýs 2014-08-09 18:22 GMT+02:00 Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:01:27

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi :) I think it is .Pps that plays as a slide-show straight-away. I think .Ppt normally opens in editable/design view. I'm not sure if it's possible to just rename the file-ending between the 2 or whether you have to use Save As I've got a feeling it's one of the rare ones where you can

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Tom Davies wrote on 8/9/2014 2:25 PM: Hi :) I think it is .Pps that plays as a slide-show straight-away. I think .Ppt normally opens in editable/design view. I'm not sure if it's possible to just rename the file-ending between the 2 or whether you have to use Save As I've got a

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Completely as an aside... On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:49:03 -0400 Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: Tom Davies wrote on 8/9/2014 2:25 PM: Italo's techno-babble was brilliant and i thought fairly easy to understand. It's good to have it laid out so clearly! I don't think you mean

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Not exclusively, but you are indeed correct, sir. A quick squizz at Wikipedia shows that it's use to obfuscate or deceive is considered the more common one, though my experience makes no such distinction. On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:37:54 -0400 chainsawchihuahua chainsawchihua...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Italo makes a good point, perhaps the best thing to do is to explain the situation to your neighbours and let them decide. I'm not sure if that's an option; I know at least one couple I have installed LO for that keep confusing LO and their mailreader, firewall, firefox, etc... Trying to explain

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

One has Windows XP. 4.2.6 One has Windows 7 and one has Windows 8. 4.2.6 for Win7, same for Win8.x but I never used Win8 before, only XP through Win7. there is only one Windows install for both 32-bit and 64-bit. One has Ubuntu and one has Linux Mint.

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Paul wrote on 8/8/2014 9:24 AM: Italo makes a good point, perhaps the best thing to do is to explain the situation to your neighbours and let them decide. My neighbors wouldn't know what I was talking about! :-) They treat their computers like they treat their cars -- get, turn the key, put the

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

I really just got a little laugh (not following the thread generally) but: Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 8/8/2014 9:59 AM: Everything really depends on you neighbors' needs, and wants. You need to discuss with them what they want our of the software packages you install for them.

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Joel Madero wrote on 8/8/2014 12:39 PM: I really just got a little laugh (not following the thread generally) but: Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote on 8/8/2014 9:59 AM: Everything really depends on you neighbors' needs, and wants. You need to discuss with them what

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

What difference does it make that a file was produced by a proprietary program? The operator of LO would like to be able to just click on that file's icon or name have LO open it, without having to know anything else about LO or Microsoft. That's what I meant by transparent. Sure - and

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On August 8, 2014 9:47:51 AM PDT, Pikov Andropov wrote: What difference does it make that a file was produced by a proprietary program? The issue s whether or not the end user can, in theory at least, go in and fix whatever is causing the incompatibility with the documents From my POV, MSO

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

jonathon wrote on 8/8/2014 1:49 PM: On August 8, 2014 9:47:51 AM PDT, Pikov Andropov wrote: What difference does it make that a file was produced by a proprietary program? The issue s whether or not the end user can, in theory at least, go in and fix whatever is causing the

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: jonathon wrote on 8/8/2014 1:49 PM: On August 8, 2014 9:47:51 AM PDT, Pikov Andropov wrote: What difference does it make that a file was produced by a proprietary program? The issue s whether or not the end user

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi, Commnts inline... Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 08.08.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com: jonathon wrote on 8/8/2014 1:49 PM: MSO 2013 is incompatible with itself Yes! Open Excel, use THE Date bug (a Feb 29th which never exists in reality,

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi :) Yes, MSO formats are tricky. MS keep changing the spec without changing the name. I find the best work-around is to use the older MS formats Doc instead of DocX Xls instead of XlsX Ppt instead of PptX and so on. In LibreOffice you can set the default to be these older formats and i think

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 08/08/14 11:15, Pikov Andropov wrote: I didn't know that. So if I have MSO 2007 and get a DOCX file from someone with MSO 10 or 13, can I expect to have trouble opening it? Unfortunately, yes, but in a totally unpredictable way. Sorry for the technical details, but they are necessary to

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Italo - no need to apologize. Your ability to make even non tech savvy people (or less tech savvy) understand the absurdities of it all is truly an art. Thanks! Best, Joel On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/08/14 11:15, Pikov Andropov wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hello again, On 6 août 2014 23:29:44 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask. Several neighbors are eligible for me to install LibreOffice. One has Windows XP. One has Windows 7 and o9ne has Windows 8. One has Ubuntu and one has

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Le 07.08.2014 09:54, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 (to James's suggestion.) I think most people on this mailing list would probably agree with getting the 4.2.6. That is your own wild call and your own opinion. I don't agree with you. Many people don't agree with you. Stop saying somebody

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:59:46 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Le 07.08.2014 09:54, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 (to James's suggestion.) I think most people on this mailing list would probably agree with getting the 4.2.6. That is your own

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Le 07.08.2014 14:50, Paul a écrit : On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:59:46 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Le 07.08.2014 09:54, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) +1 (to James's suggestion.) I think most people on this mailing list would probably agree with getting the

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 8/6/2014 6:34 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: No great mystery. If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat lacking in the latest office features. http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/ Not for everyone... the fact that the

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Tom, Please stop this passive-aggressive behaviour. Users' request are not spam. Why do you call them that? Anyway, you ask a good question. On these channels we receive three kind of questions and here's how things tend to work: 1) request for feature : people or the biggest majority of

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Personally, I would do the following for Windows XP through Win7. I do not work with 8 or 8.1. Install 4.2.6. When 4.2.7 comes out, you might want to update to that one, but it is not really needed. Once 4.3.x gets to 4.3.3 or 4.3.4, then go to the 4.3.x line - if wanted. I may or may

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi Charles, Thanks for the info on a different feedback system generating a different view of the topic. That was very useful, and I think should have been mentioned *much* earlier. It is likely the the people who mostly come to this list are the ones with problems, so we are likely to see a

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi :) Oddly on the Users Support mailing list we tend to get a lot of questions asking for support and not so many posts telling us that they don't need support. I guess if people were asking for technical support in the social media thing then they would be a bit lost, right! Would you solve

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hello Paul, On 7 août 2014 16:44:25 CEST, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Hi Charles, Thanks for the info on a different feedback system generating a different view of the topic. That was very useful, and I think should have been mentioned *much* earlier. It is likely the the people who

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Hi Charles, On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:23:17 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Fyi maybe it is my browser but I see that on the homepage clicking on download will dispmay a menu with the two branches. Surely that is an acceptable behaviour? Yes, I see that

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 8/7/2014 3:05 AM: Hello Pikov, On 7 août 2014 01:30:57 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: V Stuart Foote wrote on 8/6/2014 6:34 PM: No great mystery. If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat lacking in the latest

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Tom Davies wrote on 8/7/2014 4:05 AM: Hi :) With all due respect Charles it is not your reputation on the line here. It's Pikov's. Why? Because I asked the original question? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 8/7/2014 3:12 AM: Hello again, On 6 août 2014 23:29:44 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask. Several neighbors are eligible for me to install LibreOffice. One has Windows XP. One has Windows 7 and

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 7 août 2014 21:09:34 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 8/7/2014 3:12 AM: Hello again, On 6 août 2014 23:29:44 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask. Several neighbors are eligible

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:25:12 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: As for which version: they are your neighbours? They do not stream financial data in real time in and out of their office suite? They don't do the accounting nor the legal documents

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 8/7/2014 3:25 PM: On 7 août 2014 21:09:34 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 8/7/2014 3:12 AM: Hello again, On 6 août 2014 23:29:44 CEST, Pikov Andropov piko...@gmail.com wrote: I'm so confused by the multiple version that I

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 07/08/14 14:14, Paul wrote: The big debate recently has been over exactly this issue. A lot of people on this list (myself included) have expressed the opinion that it is best in this sort of circumstance to go for Still, but Charles is among those that feel that it is best to go for

RE: [libreoffice-users] What version?

No great mystery. If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat lacking in the latest office features. http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/ If they have more tolerance for change, and accept the potential for some as yet undescribed bugs

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

V Stuart Foote wrote on 8/6/2014 6:34 PM: No great mystery. If they are more conservative--LibreOffice 4.2.6 is a solid build, somewhat lacking in the latest office features. http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-still/ If they have more tolerance for change, and accept the

RE: [libreoffice-users] What version?

Pikov, *, -Original Message- From: Pikov Andropov [mailto:piko...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:31 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version? V Stuart Foote wrote on 8/6/2014 6:34 PM: No great mystery. If they are more

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

On 08/06/2014 05:29 PM, Pikov Andropov wrote: I'm so confused by the multiple version that I have to ask. Several neighbors are eligible for me to install LibreOffice. One has Windows XP. One has Windows 7 and o9ne has Windows 8. One has Ubuntu and one has Linux Mint. Another has Red Hat